RE: hyphen for range

2021-04-06 Thread Bernt Lie
As... "1--2 days". Doesn't that work?

-B

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Subject: hyphen for range

As I recall in LaTeX there are 3 different hyphen marks which are written as 
'-', '--', and '---'.  The 2nd one is for a range as in 1--2 days.  How is this 
entered in lyx?

Thanks,
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Re: You use bookmarks in LyX. Tell me about it

2021-04-06 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 4/6/21 12:43 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 02:17:02PM -0400, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


I rarely use bookmarks, and when I do...

This opening phrase made me think you might be "The Most Interesting LyXer in the 
World" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYR3TPKKzdE).

Scott
They based that character on me (well, a more youthful me, not to 
mention taller, more athletic and better looking). And now, thinking of 
how much I've aged, you've got me craving a beer. :-)



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Re: You use bookmarks in LyX. Tell me about it

2021-04-06 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 02:17:02PM -0400, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

> I rarely use bookmarks, and when I do...

This opening phrase made me think you might be "The Most Interesting LyXer in 
the World" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYR3TPKKzdE).

Scott


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Re: You use bookmarks in LyX. Tell me about it

2021-04-06 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck

On 4/6/21 12:13 PM, John White wrote:


On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:01:23 AM PDT Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

> Am 06.04.21 um 17:21 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck:

> > On 4/6/21 3:02 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

> >> first: What is the shortcut for 'Save Bookmark 1' ?

> >> Shortcuts tells:

> >> Umschalt+F1 Depth Increment Alt+Umschalt+Rechts

> >> Question: Why is Umschalt and Rechts used instead of the English

> >> expressions?

> >> Same for Goto Bookmark 1 > Strg+1 Depth Decrement Alt+Umschalt+Links

> >

> > These will be a bit saner in 2.4.0 (at least in cua.bind): Ctrl-1,

> > Ctrl-2, etc, will set bookmarks; Alt-1, Alt-2, etc, will go to 
bookmarks.


>

> thats good!

>

> >> If I use Umschalt+F1 to set a bookmark

> >> and ctrl < to go back to it

> >> it does not work for me

> >

> > Only the 0 bookmark works with Ctrl-<.

>

> I see.

>

> > Riki

I agree (that's good). I use /// ,, , etc and occasionally forget 
to remove the mark before printing.


Just to clarify: Bookmark 0 is really an internal thing. LyX sets it 
automatically at various times. The other bookmarks can be set manually 
(and are only set manually).


Riki

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Re: You use bookmarks in LyX. Tell me about it

2021-04-06 Thread John White

On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:01:23 AM PDT Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> Am 06.04.21 um 17:21 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck:
> > On 4/6/21 3:02 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> >> first: What is the shortcut for 'Save Bookmark 1' ?
> >> Shortcuts tells:
> >> Umschalt+F1 Depth Increment Alt+Umschalt+Rechts
> >> Question: Why is Umschalt and Rechts used instead of the English
> >> expressions?
> >> Same for Goto Bookmark 1 > Strg+1 Depth Decrement Alt+Umschalt+Links
> > 
> > These will be a bit saner in 2.4.0 (at least in cua.bind): Ctrl-1,
> > Ctrl-2, etc, will set bookmarks; Alt-1, Alt-2, etc, will go to bookmarks.
> 
> thats good!
> 
> >> If I use Umschalt+F1 to set a bookmark
> >> and ctrl < to go back to it
> >> it does not work for me
> > 
> > Only the 0 bookmark works with Ctrl-<.
> 
> I see.
> 
> > Riki

I agree (that's good).  I use /// ,, , etc and occasionally forget to 
remove the mark 
before printing.
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Re: You use bookmarks in LyX. Tell me about it

2021-04-06 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann




Am 06.04.21 um 17:21 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck:

On 4/6/21 3:02 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

first: What is the shortcut for 'Save Bookmark 1' ?
Shortcuts tells:
Umschalt+F1 Depth Increment Alt+Umschalt+Rechts
Question: Why is Umschalt and Rechts used instead of the English
expressions?
Same for Goto Bookmark 1 > Strg+1 Depth Decrement Alt+Umschalt+Links


These will be a bit saner in 2.4.0 (at least in cua.bind): Ctrl-1,
Ctrl-2, etc, will set bookmarks; Alt-1, Alt-2, etc, will go to bookmarks.


thats good!




If I use Umschalt+F1 to set a bookmark
and ctrl < to go back to it
it does not work for me


Only the 0 bookmark works with Ctrl-<.


I see.


Riki



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Re: You use bookmarks in LyX. Tell me about it

2021-04-06 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 4/5/21 11:54 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Dear LyX users,
>
> I recently tried to fix ticket #2496 for 2.4.0.
> https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/2496#comment:20
>
> However, several problems occurred:
> 1/ displaying bookmark numbers inline does not please everybody (see
> attachment)
>
> 2/ displaying them in the margin is not entirely satisfying either
> (other attachment); note that the code for this case is not perfect
> yet (e.g. the margin is not large enough).
>
> 3/ making bookmarks visible made me aware that the bookmarks
> functionality is really broken. I fixed a few things, but a lot
> remains to be done.
>
> This makes me wonder: are there users of this bookmarks thing out
> there? What is your use case? Do you keep bookmarks between sessions,
> or is it just to get back and forth in a document at a given moment?

Similar to others, I tend to use them in an ad hoc way and do not care
if they persist between sessions.

Riki


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Re: hyphen for range

2021-04-06 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 4/6/21 11:13 AM, Bernt Lie wrote:
> As... "1--2 days". Doesn't that work?

Just to clarify: LyX will magically convert it to an en-dash on screen
and in the file. I think that was as of 2.3.0. In earlier versions, the
"--" is left as is, and LaTeX converts it to an en-dash.

Riki


> -Original Message-
> From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Neal Becker
> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 5:10 PM
> To: LyX Users List 
> Subject: hyphen for range
>
> As I recall in LaTeX there are 3 different hyphen marks which are written as 
> '-', '--', and '---'.  The 2nd one is for a range as in 1--2 days.  How is 
> this entered in lyx?
>
> Thanks,
> Neal
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Re: You use bookmarks in LyX. Tell me about it

2021-04-06 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 4/6/21 3:02 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> first: What is the shortcut for 'Save Bookmark 1' ?
> Shortcuts tells:
> Umschalt+F1 Depth Increment Alt+Umschalt+Rechts
> Question: Why is Umschalt and Rechts used instead of the English
> expressions?
> Same for Goto Bookmark 1 > Strg+1 Depth Decrement Alt+Umschalt+Links

These will be a bit saner in 2.4.0 (at least in cua.bind): Ctrl-1,
Ctrl-2, etc, will set bookmarks; Alt-1, Alt-2, etc, will go to bookmarks.


> If I use Umschalt+F1 to set a bookmark
> and ctrl < to go back to it
> it does not work for me 

Only the 0 bookmark works with Ctrl-<.

Riki


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hyphen for range

2021-04-06 Thread Neal Becker
As I recall in LaTeX there are 3 different hyphen marks which are
written as '-',
'--', and '---'.  The 2nd one is for a range as in 1--2 days.  How is
this entered in lyx?

Thanks,
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Re: You use bookmarks in LyX. Tell me about it

2021-04-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 02:17:02PM -0400, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> I rarely use bookmarks, and when I do it is within a session (meaning I do

The same here. My memory span what "Bookmark 2" means is in minuttes/hours max.
Usability might improve with the new visibility feature, but I do not think
it will turn me into heavy bookmark user.
I do not have strong pref for anchor position.

I use more often Navigate back, to quickly jump around. This feature was
designed to be similar to `` in vim.

I admit it might be confusing for users who expect something like back 
button in web browsers, where each hit would bring you more and more 
backwards in time. Such version of what "back" means would be fine
with me as well but would need more coding.

> On a side note, I find it slightly disconcerting that clicking "Navigate
> Back" in a document with no bookmarks and no recent edits opens the last
> edited document and jumps to the last edit point. Jumping to the last edit
> point in the current document, whenever that was made, would be fine, but
> jumping to a different document is a tad disconcerting.

Interesting, I thought it was a nice feature how to go quickly back to last
editing point when no document is opened. But I see it might be confusing
once new document is opened and no editing happened yet.

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Re: You use bookmarks in LyX. Tell me about it

2021-04-06 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



Am 05.04.21 um 17:54 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

Dear LyX users,

I recently tried to fix ticket #2496 for 2.4.0.
https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/2496#comment:20

However, several problems occurred:
1/ displaying bookmark numbers inline does not please everybody (see 
attachment)


2/ displaying them in the margin is not entirely satisfying either 
(other attachment); note that the code for this case is not perfect yet 
(e.g. the margin is not large enough).


3/ making bookmarks visible made me aware that the bookmarks 
functionality is really broken. I fixed a few things, but a lot remains 
to be done.


This makes me wonder: are there users of this bookmarks thing out there? 
What is your use case? Do you keep bookmarks between sessions, or is it 
just to get back and forth in a document at a given moment?


Finally, do you think that making bookmarks visible is useful? For me, 
the main use now is to debug the functionality.


JMarc


LMarc,
I use it occasionally, but I found it easier to mark the place I want to 
remember with characters seldom used such as ยงยง and go back to it with 
simple search.

The reason is, that setting a bookmark and finding it is a bit complicated:
first: What is the shortcut for 'Save Bookmark 1' ?
Shortcuts tells:
Umschalt+F1 Depth Increment Alt+Umschalt+Rechts
Question: Why is Umschalt and Rechts used instead of the English 
expressions?

Same for Goto Bookmark 1 > Strg+1 Depth Decrement Alt+Umschalt+Links

If I use Umschalt+F1 to set a bookmark
and ctrl < to go back to it
it does not work for me (Debian 11,
LyX Version 2.3.6 (Friday, November 27, 2020)
Library directory: /usr/share/lyx/
User directory: ~/.lyx/
Qt Version (run-time): 5.15.2
Qt Version (compile-time): 5.15.1 )

Wolfgang

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