Re: spellchecker

[Patrick Dupre via lyx-users]

Thank,

OK, You have to activate the continuous spellchecker
This is a "new" option. At least using lyx for a very long time, I was not 
warned of this option.

Thanks.


> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 at 1:45 PM
> From: "Jürgen Spitzmüller" 
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: spellchecker
>
> Am Freitag, dem 26.07.2024 um 13:03 +0200 schrieb Patrick Dupre via
> lyx-users:
> > Sorry, I do not have the option
> > "Ignore all in this document"
> > only Skip
> > Skip all
> > Replace
> > Replace all
> > Ignore
> > Ignore All
> > Add
> 
> I am talking about the context menu. In the spellchecker dialog, this
> equals "Ignore All"
> 
> > 
> > > It does. Right click on the word and select "Remove from document
> > > dictionary"
> > Sorry again, but after I made Ignore all, the word never shows up
> > again, Hence, no way to click right
> 
> You have to click on any occurrence of that word in the document.
> 
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Re: spellchecker

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, dem 26.07.2024 um 13:03 +0200 schrieb Patrick Dupre via
lyx-users:
> Sorry, I do not have the option
> "Ignore all in this document"
> only Skip
> Skip all
> Replace
> Replace all
> Ignore
> Ignore All
> Add

I am talking about the context menu. In the spellchecker dialog, this
equals "Ignore All"

> 
> > It does. Right click on the word and select "Remove from document
> > dictionary"
> Sorry again, but after I made Ignore all, the word never shows up
> again, Hence, no way to click right

You have to click on any occurrence of that word in the document.

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Re: spellchecker

[Patrick Dupre via lyx-users]

Hello Jurgen,

Sorry, I do not have the option
"Ignore all in this document"
only Skip
Skip all
Replace
Replace all
Ignore
Ignore All
Add

> It does. Right click on the word and select "Remove from document
> dictionary"
Sorry again, but after I made Ignore all, the word never shows up again,
Hence, no way to click right

Lyx 2.4.1


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> Subject: Re: spellchecker
>
> Am Freitag, dem 26.07.2024 um 11:59 +0200 schrieb Patrick Dupre via
> lyx-users:
> > What you are describing is the standard use of dictionary,
> > but Lyx has also the option of using its internal dictionary
> > (generated by ignore all)
> > If I am correct the word are store under \spellchecker_ignore
> 
> No, that's generated by "Ignore all in this document"
> 
> > But lyx does not offer the option to remove these words.
> 
> It does. Right click on the word and select "Remove from document
> dictionary"
> 
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Re: spellchecker

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, dem 26.07.2024 um 11:59 +0200 schrieb Patrick Dupre via
lyx-users:
> What you are describing is the standard use of dictionary,
> but Lyx has also the option of using its internal dictionary
> (generated by ignore all)
> If I am correct the word are store under \spellchecker_ignore

No, that's generated by "Ignore all in this document"

> But lyx does not offer the option to remove these words.

It does. Right click on the word and select "Remove from document
dictionary"

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Re: spellchecker

[Patrick Dupre via lyx-users]

Hi Jose,

What you are describing is the standard use of dictionary,
but Lyx has also the option of using its internal dictionary (generated by 
ignore all)
If I am correct the word are store under \spellchecker_ignore
But lyx does not offer the option to remove these words.
The only way that I found is to edit the lyx file and to remove the line
if you wish to remove a word from the internal dictionary.



> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 at 11:50 AM
> From: "José Matos" 
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: spellchecker
>
> On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 10:34 +0200, Patrick Dupre via lyx-users wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > How can I manage the spellchecker associated with a lyx document?
> > It seems that there is a an instruction like \spellchecker_ignore
> > How can I modify the associated word list?
> > 
> > Thank.
> 
> Hi Patrick,
>   I am not sure if I am answering your question. :-)
> 
> In my case, in the user directory (~/.lyx/ here) I have several
> pwl_*.dict files.
> 
> Those are text files where the word that we say to ignore are listed,
> one per line.
> 
> I hope that this helps,
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Re: spellchecker

[José Matos]

On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 10:34 +0200, Patrick Dupre via lyx-users wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> How can I manage the spellchecker associated with a lyx document?
> It seems that there is a an instruction like \spellchecker_ignore
> How can I modify the associated word list?
> 
> Thank.

Hi Patrick,
  I am not sure if I am answering your question. :-)

In my case, in the user directory (~/.lyx/ here) I have several
pwl_*.dict files.

Those are text files where the word that we say to ignore are listed,
one per line.

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spellchecker

[Patrick Dupre via lyx-users]

Hello,

How can I manage the spellchecker associated with a lyx document?
It seems that there is a an instruction like \spellchecker_ignore
How can I modify the associated word list?

Thank.

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Re: Multiple indices/indexes and Memoir

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Mittwoch, dem 24.07.2024 um 16:23 +0200 schrieb Mathias Girel:
> In my document, if I select multiple indexes, and create an index
> rerum, for example, it generates an error (seen screenshot). I have
> the exact same message even if I'm using a MWE (one paragraph, two
> entries belonging to two indexes).
> My question is: is it a necessary consequence of the Memoir class
> (implying some tricky workaround as explained in the wiki), or is
> there a neat workaround in Lyx, for example by adding something in
> the preamble to avoid this conflict?
> I can live with a single index, if it's too complex to solve, but I
> really like the way multiple indices are integrated in
> LyX, which makes inserting entries so easy.
> Thanks for your help! (and kudos for the great work on 2.4!!)

Memoir's own index implementation is fundamentally incompatible with
splitidx which is used by LyX for multiple indexes. It is possible to
add special support for memoir (I am going to look into that), but
currently you need to refrain from using LyX's multiple index support
and do the second index manually.

Here is some support:

* Store the attached memoir-nomindex.module in your User Directory (see
Help > About LyX) in a sub-folder "layouts"

* put the attached "makeindexall" python script in your PATH and make
it executable

In LyX:

* Tools > Reconfigure and restart
* Load the module "Index of Names for the Memoir Class"
* In Tools > Preferences > Output > LaTeX, change the index processor
to "custom" and enter "makeindexall"

You will now find an inset for name index entries in Insert > Custom
Insets and an inset for the actual inset in Insert >
List/Content/References.

To change the header of the second index, put in TeX mode
\renewcommand{\indexname}{Name Index}
right before it

If you want a different second index than a name index, adjust this
accordingly.

Hope this helps

(I am also updating the wiki and provide these files there)

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#\DeclareLyXModule{Index of Names for the Memoir Class}
#DescriptionBegin
#Defines an index inset for names, only suitable for Memoir!
#DescriptionEnd

Format 104

InsetLayout Flex:NameIndex
LyXType   custom
LabelString   IdxNom
LatexType command
LatexName index[nom]
Decorationclassic
Font
  Color   foreground
  SizeSmall
  Family  Roman
  Shape   Up
  Series  Medium
  MiscNo_Emph
  MiscNo_Noun
  MiscNo_Bar
EndFont
LabelFont
  Color   red
  SizeSmall
EndFont
MultiPar  false
NeedProtect   true
Preamble
   \makeindex[nom]
EndPreamble
End

Float
   Type  pagenote
   ListName  "Name Index"
   IsPredefined  true
   UsesFloatPkg  false
   ListCommand   printindex[nom]
End

#!/usr/bin/env python
# -*- coding: iso-8859-15 -*-

# \author Juergen Spitzmueller

# This file is a wrapper on makeindex to let LyX
# process every idx file in the temp directory.
# This is needed if you use the memoir-nomindex module with LyX.
# Place this file somewhere in your PATH , then
# open Tools->Preferences->LaTeX in LyX, change
# the "makeindex command" to custom and enter "makeindexall".

import sys, os
for filename in os.listdir("."):
	if filename.endswith('.idx'):
		f = os.path.splitext(filename)[0]
if f == sys.argv[1]:
continue
		os.popen('makeindex ' + f)
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Re: Multiple indices/indexes and Memoir

[Mathias Girel]

Sorry for auto-replying, but I've managed to produce these indexes from a
minimal example (Memoir and selecting multiple indexes from the lyx menu).
Do not lose time on this.
The problem seems to come from other options in the preamble, which clash
with the index.
I'll try to find out exactly what interferes and if I'm successful, I'll
post the result in reply.
Best
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Re: Problem with LyX installation on Windows 11

[Yu Jin]

Am Do., 25. Juli 2024 um 15:06 Uhr schrieb Torquil Macdonald Sørensen <
torq...@gmail.com>:

> When installing LyX on my Windows 11 system, the LyX installer claims
> to have found a LaTeX installation at the following location:
>
> C:\Users\TorquilSorensen\AppData\Local\Programs\MiKTeX\miktex\bin\x64
>
> However, this is incorrect. The correct path should be:
>
> C:\Users\TorquilSørensen\AppData\Local\Programs\MiKTeX\miktex\bin\x64
>

Maybe there is a Problem with 'ø' in your user's name?

>
> I was going to report this as a bug on the LyX bug tracker, but when
> trying to register a new account there, I only get the error message
> that says "No handler matched request to /register".
>
> Best regards,
> Torquil Sørensen


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Re: Problem with LyX installation on Windows 11

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/25/24 9:04 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen wrote:

When installing LyX on my Windows 11 system, the LyX installer claims
to have found a LaTeX installation at the following location:

C:\Users\TorquilSorensen\AppData\Local\Programs\MiKTeX\miktex\bin\x64

However, this is incorrect. The correct path should be:

C:\Users\TorquilSørensen\AppData\Local\Programs\MiKTeX\miktex\bin\x64


This sounds like registry corruption.


I was going to report this as a bug on the LyX bug tracker, but when
trying to register a new account there, I only get the error message
that says "No handler matched request to /register".


Send me a password privately, and I can register you. We had to disable 
that due to a flood of bots.


Riki


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Problem with LyX installation on Windows 11

[Torquil Macdonald Sørensen]

When installing LyX on my Windows 11 system, the LyX installer claims
to have found a LaTeX installation at the following location:

C:\Users\TorquilSorensen\AppData\Local\Programs\MiKTeX\miktex\bin\x64

However, this is incorrect. The correct path should be:

C:\Users\TorquilSørensen\AppData\Local\Programs\MiKTeX\miktex\bin\x64

I was going to report this as a bug on the LyX bug tracker, but when
trying to register a new account there, I only get the error message
that says "No handler matched request to /register".

Best regards,
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Lyx 2.4.1 on Windows 11 doesn't find python

[Torquil Macdonald Sørensen]

Hi!

I previously used Lyx 2.3.7, which worked fine. After uninstalling
that and installing 2.4.1, it doesn't work anymore. I have tried both
the options "For everyone" and "Only for me" in the Lyx installer.

The Python directory should be correctly included in the system PATH,
because I can run python from the command prompt without problems, as
you can see here:
$ C:\Users\TorquilSørensen\AppData\Local\Programs\LyX 2.4\bin>python
Python 3.11.1 (tags/v3.11.1:a7a450f, Dec  6 2022, 19:58:39) [MSC
v.1934 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> exit()

However, when I run Lyx within the same command prompt, I'm getting
the following:

C:\Users\TorquilSørensen\AppData\Local\Programs\LyX 2.4\bin>Error
returned from iconv
EILSEQ An invalid multibyte sequence has been encountered in the input.
When converting from UTF-8 to UCS-4LE.
Input: 0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x55 0x73 0x65 0x72 0x73 0x5c 0x54 0x6f 0x72
0x71 0x75 0x69 0x6c 0x53 0xf8 0x72 0x65 0x6e 0x73 0x65 0x6e 0x5c 0x41
0x70 0x70 0x44 0x61 0x74 0x61 0x5c 0x4c 0x6f 0x63 0x61 0x6c 0x5c 0x50
0x72 0x6f 0x67 0x72 0x61 0x6d 0x73 0x5c 0x4d 0x69 0x4b 0x54 0x65 0x58
0x5c 0x6d 0x69 0x6b 0x74 0x65 0x78 0x5c 0x62 0x69 0x6e 0x5c 0x78 0x36
0x34 0x3b 0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x55 0x73 0x65 0x72 0x73 0x5c 0x54 0x6f 0x72
0x71 0x75 0x69 0x6c 0x53 0xc3 0xb8 0x72 0x65 0x6e 0x73 0x65 0x6e 0x5c
0x41 0x70 0x70 0x44 0x61 0x74 0x61 0x5c 0x4c 0x6f 0x63 0x61 0x6c 0x5c
0x50 0x72 0x6f 0x67 0x72 0x61 0x6d 0x73 0x5c 0x4c 0x79 0x58 0x20 0x32
0x2e 0x34 0x5c 0x62 0x69 0x6e 0x3b 0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x55 0x73 0x65 0x72
0x73 0x5c 0x54 0x6f 0x72 0x71 0x75 0x69 0x6c 0x53 0xc3 0xb8 0x72 0x65
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0x4c 0x79 0x58 0x20 0x32 0x2e 0x34 0x5c 0x50 0x79 0x74 0x68 0x6f 0x6e
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0x34 0x5c 0x50 0x79 0x74 0x68 0x6f 0x6e 0x5c 0x4c 0x69 0x62 0x3b 0x43
0x3a 0x5c 0x55 0x73 0x65 0x72 0x73 0x5c 0x54 0x6f 0x72 0x71 0x75 0x69
0x6c 0x53 0xc3 0xb8 0x72 0x65 0x6e 0x73 0x65 0x6e 0x5c 0x41 0x70 0x70
0x44 0x61 0x74 0x61 0x5c 0x4c 0x6f 0x63 0x61 0x6c 0x5c 0x50 0x72 0x6f
0x67 0x72 0x61 0x6d 0x73 0x5c 0x4c 0x79 0x58 0x20 0x32 0x2e 0x34 0x5c
0x50 0x79 0x74 0x68 0x6f 0x6e 0x5c 0x53 0x63 0x72 0x69 0x70 0x74 0x73
0x3b 0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x55 0x73 0x65 0x72 0x73 0x5c 0x54 0x6f 0x72 0x71
0x75 0x69 0x6c 0x53 0xc3 0xb8 0x72 0x65 0x6e 0x73 0x65 0x6e 0x5c 0x41
0x70 0x70 0x44 0x61 0x74 0x61 0x5c 0x4c 0x6f 0x63 0x61 0x6c 0x5c 0x50
0x72 0x6f 0x67 0x72 0x61 0x6d 0x73 0x5c 0x4c 0x79 0x58 0x20 0x32 0x2e
0x34 0x5c 0x69 0x6d 0x61 0x67 0x65 0x6d 0x61 0x67 0x69 0x63 0x6b 0x3b
0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x55 0x73 0x65 0x72 0x73 0x5c 0x54 0x6f 0x72 0x71 0x75
0x69 0x6c 0x53 0xc3 0xb8 0x72 0x65 0x6e 0x73 0x65 0x6e 0x5c 0x41 0x70
0x70 0x44 0x61 0x74 0x61 0x5c 0x4c 0x6f 0x63 0x61 0x6c 0x5c 0x50 0x72
0x6f 0x67 0x72 0x61 0x6d 0x73 0x5c 0x4c 0x79 0x58 0x20 0x32 0x2e 0x34
0x5c 0x67 0x68 0x6f 0x73 0x74 0x73 0x63 0x72 0x69 0x70 0x74 0x5c 0x62
0x69 0x6e 0x3b 0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x55 0x73 0x65 0x72 0x73 0x5c 0x54 0x6f
0x72 0x71 0x75 0x69 0x6c 0x53 0xf8 0x72 0x65 0x6e 0x73 0x65 0x6e 0x5c
0x41 0x70 0x70 0x44 0x61 0x74 0x61 0x5c 0x4c 0x6f 0x63 0x61 0x6c 0x5c
0x50 0x72 0x6f 0x67 0x72 0x61 0x6d 0x73 0x5c 0x47 0x49 0x4d 0x50 0x20
0x32 0x5c 0x62 0x69 0x6e 0x3b 0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x55 0x73 0x65 0x72 0x73
0x5c 0x54 0x6f 0x72 0x71 0x75 0x69 0x6c 0x53 0xc3 0xb8 0x72 0x65 0x6e
0x73 0x65 0x6e 0x5c 0x41 0x70 0x70 0x44 0x61 0x74 0x61 0x5c 0x4c 0x6f
0x63 0x61 0x6c 0x5c 0x50 0x72 0x6f 0x67 0x72 0x61 0x6d 0x73 0x5c 0x4c
0x79 0x58 0x20 0x32 0x2e 0x34 0x5c 0x52 0x65 0x73 0x6f 0x75 0x72 0x63
0x65 0x73 0x5c 0x65 0x78 0x74 0x72 0x61 0x74 0x6f 0x6f 0x6c 0x73 0x3b
0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x55 0x73 0x65 0x72 0x73 0x5c 0x54 0x6f 0x72 0x71 0x75
0x69 0x6c 0x53 0xc3 0xb8 0x72 0x65 0x6e 0x73 0x65 0x6e 0x5c 0x41 0x70
0x70 0x44 0x61 0x74 0x61 0x5c 0x4c 0x6f 0x63 0x61 0x6c 0x5c 0x50 0x72
0x6f 0x67 0x72 0x61 0x6d 0x73 0x5c 0x4c 0x79 0x58 0x20 0x32 0x2e 0x34
0x5c 0x62 0x69 0x6e 0x5c 0x3b 0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x50 0x72 0x6f 0x67 0x72
0x61 0x6d 0x20 0x46 0x69 0x6c 0x65 0x73 0x5c 0x4d 0x69 0x63 0x72 0x6f
0x73 0x6f 0x66 0x74 0x20 0x4d 0x50 0x49 0x5c 0x42 0x69 0x6e 0x5c 0x3b
0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x57 0x49 0x4e 0x44 0x4f 0x57 0x53 0x5c 0x73 0x79 0x73
0x74 0x65 0x6d 0x33 0x32 0x3b 0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x57 0x49 0x4e 0x44 0x4f
0x57 0x53 0x3b 0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x57 0x49 0x4e 0x44 0x4f 0x57 0x53 0x5c
0x53 0x79 0x73 0x74 0x65 0x6d 0x33 0x32 0x5c 0x57 0x62 0x65 0x6d 0x3b
0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x57 0x49 0x4e 0x44 0x4f 0x57 0x53 0x5c 0x53 0x79 0x73
0x74 0x65 0x6d 0x33 0x32 0x5c 0x57 0x69 0x6e 0x64 0x6f 0x77 0x73 0x50
0x6f 0x77 0x65 0x72 0x53 0x68 0x65 0x6c 0x6c 0x5c 0x76 0x31 0x2e 0x30
0x5c 0x3b 0x43 0x3a 0x5c 0x57 0x49 0x4e 

LyX 2.4.1 in bookworm backports (was: 2.4.0 for Debian stable)

[Pavel Sanda]

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 06:53:40PM +0200, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 08, 2024 at 08:23:49PM +0200, Saša Janiška wrote:
> > However, Lyx's 2.4.0 release is exceptional and I wonder if there is
> > some repository with 2.4.0 backported to Bookworm?
> 
> I have provisional agreement with debian maintainer that 2.4 will be
> sooner or later backported to bookworm. But we were not aggresive
> about timing so if you are no in hurry it will land, but probably
> after 2.4.1. But maybe I can push a little.

LyX 2.4.1 just entered backports, so if you are on debian bookworm
derivative you should be able to upgrade. In case it's needed some
instructions are at https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian .

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Multiple indices/indexes and Memoir

[Mathias Girel]

Dear listers
In the other manuscript I'm editing, in the Memoir class, I'm inserting
index entries but having access to Lyx's native handling of multiples
indices would be extremely helpful.
I know that in the past it required a special handling just for this class
(see https://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/Indexing), but I'm nore sure if that's still
a thing.

In my document, if I select multiple indexes, and create an index rerum,
for example, it generates an error (seen screenshot). I have the exact same
message even if I'm using a MWE (one paragraph, two entries belonging to
two indexes).
My question is: is it a necessary consequence of the Memoir class (implying
some tricky workaround as explained in the wiki), or is there a neat
workaround in Lyx, for example by adding something in the preamble to avoid
this conflict?
I can live with a single index, if it's too complex to solve, but I really
like the way multiple indices are integrated in LyX, which makes inserting
entries so easy.
Thanks for your help! (and kudos for the great work on 2.4!!)
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Re: tectonic, anyone?

[José Matos]

On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 17:59 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
> I have sometimes installed all packages from Fedora TexLive. 
> Downside is there are 1000s of packages, and so it really slows down
> software updates.
> I guess the thing I thought was interesting was automatic download on
> demand. 

This is a little bit tangent so forgive me for this post. :-)

$ sudo dnf install texlive-scheme-full

and problem solved. :-D

Yes, you can still complain that some documentation is not installed
this way, but... :-)

My more serious problem with the download on demand is that it
sometimes occurs at times that I have other demands. And it usually at
that time picks precisely the slowest mirror. I have been there. :-(

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Re: tectonic, anyone?

[Neal Becker]

On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 1:17 PM Steve Litt 
wrote:

> Neal Becker said on Sun, 21 Jul 2024 16:12:19 -0400
>
> >Anyone played with tectonic?  Think this might be helpful to use with
> >LyX?
> >
> >https://tectonic-typesetting.github.io/en-US/index.html
> ...
> * automatically downloads support files so you don't need a full LaTeX
>   installation.
> - I already have a full LaTeX installation. Today's hard disks
>   are big enough that you can just tell CTAN to give you
>   everything. I'm a huge fan of using CTAN rather than your
>   distribution's LaTeX package.
>

I have sometimes installed all packages from Fedora TexLive.  Downside is
there are 1000s of packages, and so it really slows down software updates.
I guess the thing I thought was interesting was automatic download on
demand.

>
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LyX 2.4.0

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/23/24 12:49 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes said on Sun, 21 Jul 2024 01:08:23 +0200


Le 16/07/2024 à 00:13, Hung-Tzu Chang a écrit :

Here are the files. The file named "scroll-problem" means problem
with scrolling/frozen citation window/frozen menu bar, etc.

Thanks!

Dear Hung-Tzu,

Thanks for the files. I can confirm that I observe hangs when
scrolling with LyX 2.4.1 and that the performance is much much better
with current 2.4.2~devel.

What's the latest "stable" version of LyX? I just discovered my LyX is
2.3.6.1 from 12/29/2020. What am I missing with my version? It seems OK
to me, and it's what my distro gives me.


LyX 2.4.0 was released in early June (and 2.4.1 in early July). It has 
boatloads of new features:


    https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX24

It can be downloaded from lyx.org.

Since you are on Linux, it is easy to compile yourself, and even to 
install it in parallel to 2.3.6.1. (By default, the self-compiled 
version installs to /usr/local/, and this can be configured. You can 
also use e.g. --program-suffix=2.4 to have the binary be "lyx-2.4", and 
not just "lyx".) Just use a separate user directory with 2.4 (use the 
-userdir option when launching). 2.4.x can read older files, and export 
to 2.3.x format, but we do not recommend trying to move back and forth 
with a single file. The kind of 'round trip' does not always work well 
(depending upon how many of the new features you have used).


If you decide to switch to 2.4.x, then of course you don't have to worry 
about the separate user directory, etc.


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Re: tectonic, anyone?

[Steve Litt]

Neal Becker said on Sun, 21 Jul 2024 16:12:19 -0400

>Anyone played with tectonic?  Think this might be helpful to use with
>LyX?
>
>https://tectonic-typesetting.github.io/en-US/index.html
>
>-- 
>*Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it*

Until hell freezes over :-)

OK, back on topic, I know nothing about tectonic except what your URL
told me. Normally, I'm a LuaTeX/LuaLaTeX type guy, and the only
disadvantage is a longer document compile time. Looking at the
advantages the URL discusses:

* automatically downloads support files so you don't need a full LaTeX
  installation.
- I already have a full LaTeX installation. Today's hard disks
  are big enough that you can just tell CTAN to give you
  everything. I'm a huge fan of using CTAN rather than your
  distribution's LaTeX package.

* Automatically loops TeX and BibTeX
- Nothing I can't do with shellscripts. I do this with
  shellscripts every day.

* Tectonic command-line program is quiet and never stops to ask for
  input. 
- I'd rather get all output and have it ask. Easier for
  troubleshooting.

* Tectonic can use modern OpenType fonts and is fully Unicode-enabled.
- I already have these benefits with LuaTeX.

* Tectonic engine has been extracted into a completely self-contained
  library so that it can be embedded in other applications.
- This is pretty cool, and if I ever need it, I'll grab
  Tectonic.

* Developed in the open on GitHub using modern tools like the Rust
  language.
- Yawn.

* Tectonic can be used from Github Actions to typeset your documents
  whenever a change to them is made.
- Oh Hell No! I don't want my document production work flow
  depending on something on somebody else's server, especially
  the less-than-free Github. I have a 14TB hard disk and am not
  a Cloud/Software As a Service type guy. Luckily, it appears I
  don't have to use this feature.

In summary, I won't take the time to check this out until other people
have reported very positive experiences with it.

SteveT

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Re: Scrolling unresponsive in LyX 2.4.0

[Steve Litt]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes said on Sun, 21 Jul 2024 01:08:23 +0200

>Le 16/07/2024 à 00:13, Hung-Tzu Chang a écrit :
>> Here are the files. The file named "scroll-problem" means problem
>> with scrolling/frozen citation window/frozen menu bar, etc.
>> 
>> Thanks!  
>
>Dear Hung-Tzu,
>
>Thanks for the files. I can confirm that I observe hangs when
>scrolling with LyX 2.4.1 and that the performance is much much better
>with current 2.4.2~devel.

What's the latest "stable" version of LyX? I just discovered my LyX is
2.3.6.1 from 12/29/2020. What am I missing with my version? It seems OK
to me, and it's what my distro gives me.


SteveT

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Re: tectonic, anyone?

[Pavel Sanda]

On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 04:12:19PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
> Anyone played with tectonic?  Think this might be helpful to use with LyX?
> 
> https://tectonic-typesetting.github.io/en-US/index.html

Never used that, and their web is very vague. On first sight it seems that
1) their preffered engine seems to be XeTeX, not maintained anymore
2) they claim not to clutter working directory, you already have that
   if you use lyx - in the sense that all temps are saved separately from
   .lyx files.
3) they claim to download latex packages on demand instead of full
   texlive install. You can get that with MikTeX automatically or
   (untested) you might get that with texlive via texliveonfly.

As such I do not see much of addon value for lyx.
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Re: Cross referencing

[A-Imam Al-Sammak]

Thank you for your effort. I really appreciate it.

Imam

On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 at 23:36 Richard Kimberly Heck 
wrote:

> On 7/22/24 1:38 AM, A-Imam Al-Sammak wrote:
>
> Thank you Richard
> I went through the two manuals, but could not figure out how to solve this
> issue.
>
> I had a quick look. The use of subfloats makes this more complicated than
> I had thought it would be. Since I never use those, I do not know how to do
> this. I'd suggest asking on the TeX group at Stack Exchange. It's more a
> LaTeX issue than a LyX one.
>
> Riki
>
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Re: Cross referencing

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/22/24 1:38 AM, A-Imam Al-Sammak wrote:

Thank you Richard
I went through the two manuals, but could not figure out how to solve 
this issue.


I had a quick look. The use of subfloats makes this more complicated 
than I had thought it would be. Since I never use those, I do not know 
how to do this. I'd suggest asking on the TeX group at Stack Exchange. 
It's more a LaTeX issue than a LyX one.


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Re: FW: Lyx 2.4 - strange rendering problem in Windows

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 05/06/2024 à 17:09, Dr Paul Verschueren a écrit :

Thanks to all for making 2.4 a reality.

I’ve just installed on Win11 and have a strange issue: when a document 
is scrolled or moved up or down, a ghost image is left behind (see 
screenshot below).


Dear Paul,

Good news: this will be fixed in LyX 2.4.2. In the meantime, you can 
disable 'use system colors' in Preferences | Look | Colors.


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Re: Cross referencing

[A-Imam Al-Sammak]

Thank you Richard
I went through the two manuals, but could not figure out how to solve this
issue. This is what I have in my LyX installation.
[image: image.png]
Any suggestions on how to solve this issue.

Best regards.

A-Imam

On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 7:03 PM Richard Kimberly Heck 
wrote:

> On 7/21/24 3:36 AM, A-Imam Al-Sammak wrote:
>
> Hello everyone
>
> How to refer to sub-figures with parentheses as Fig. 1(a) instead of Fig.
> 1a?
>
> It depends upon which cross-reference system you are using: prettyref or
> refstyle. In either case, the documentation for that package will give you
> the answer:
>
> https://ctan.org/pkg/prettyref
>
> https://ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/refstyle
>
> Riki
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tectonic, anyone?

[Neal Becker]

Anyone played with tectonic?  Think this might be helpful to use with LyX?

https://tectonic-typesetting.github.io/en-US/index.html

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Re: Cross referencing

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/21/24 3:36 AM, A-Imam Al-Sammak wrote:

Hello everyone

How to refer to sub-figures with parentheses as Fig. 1(a) instead of 
Fig. 1a?


It depends upon which cross-reference system you are using: prettyref or 
refstyle. In either case, the documentation for that package will give 
you the answer:


https://ctan.org/pkg/prettyref

https://ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/refstyle

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Re: Romannum

[José Matos]

On Sun, 2024-07-21 at 14:56 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Sure, but it could be a font option.

But romannum is not a font.

Unless you consider that in some generalized fashion. :-)

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Re: Scrolling unresponsive in LyX 2.4.0

[Hung-Tzu Chang via lyx-users]

Dear Jean-Marc and Richard,

Thanks a lot for your effort. The freeze disappears after unchecking the
word count and character count option in the status bar.

Best,
Hung-Tzu

P.S. Is this an issue that the word/character count function blocks the
main thread?

On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 12:15 PM Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 
wrote:

> Le 21/07/2024 à 05:04, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit :
> > Hmm. It did not occur to me when adding that that this might show up in
> > the status bar. Maybe it didn't then? Anyway, I should have a look at
> > some point.
>
> I plan to give a go at a rewrite of the stat gathering code today, to
> see how fast it can get.
>
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Re: Romannum

[Patrick Dupre via lyx-users]

Sure, but it could be a font option.

>
> On Sun, 2024-07-21 at 14:19 +0200, Patrick Dupre via lyx-users wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I did not find a way to use Romannum{x}
> > where x = 1, 2, ...
> > in a lyx formula.
> > 
> > Did I miss it?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> I can do it if I type \Romannum{4} outside of math and convert it to
> math mode (Alt m + m).
> 
> In the math mode the macro argument is represented as a nested block.
> 
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Re: Romannum

[José Matos]

On Sun, 2024-07-21 at 14:19 +0200, Patrick Dupre via lyx-users wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I did not find a way to use Romannum{x}
> where x = 1, 2, ...
> in a lyx formula.
> 
> Did I miss it?
> 
> Thanks.

I can do it if I type \Romannum{4} outside of math and convert it to
math mode (Alt m + m).

In the math mode the macro argument is represented as a nested block.

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Romannum

[Patrick Dupre via lyx-users]

Hello,

I did not find a way to use Romannum{x}
where x = 1, 2, ...
in a lyx formula.

Did I miss it?

Thanks.

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Re: AUX file problems.

[Murat Yildizoglu]

> On 21 Jul 2024, at 18:41, Murat Yildizoglu  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 21 Jul 2024, at 17:48, Murat Yildizoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear friends, 
>> 
>> I am importing a LaTeX file from an old LyX file after Claude translated it 
>> to English from French (a very good translation of all text in French while 
>> preserving the LaTeX instructions). 
>> 
>> The LaTeX file looks good and I can typeset it manually with pdflatex. But, 
>> I want to re-edit it in LyX, and I am meeting a problem with the last 
>> version of LyX 2.4.1 and MacTeX 2024 (they are not necessarily the culprit 
>> but I have just updated them before doing these operations so they may be 
>> relevant in my problem):
>> 
>> When I compile my imported file, some elements get duplicated in the LaTeX 
>> file in the temp folder. In particular, I find duplicated references and 
>> bibdata and bibstyle commands in the AUX file. My LyX file has only one 
>> bibliography field at the end of the document. Latex generates warnings 
>> about these duplications but when I click « Show the output anyway », I get 
>> a readable PDF.
>> 
>> Do you know why compilation duplicates (in fact, triplicates) these elements 
>> in the AUX file?
>> 
>> Thank you very much!
>> 
>> Murat
> 
> I have solved this problem: The source was the default overlay configuration 
> in my preamble. For the slide containing the Bibliography, I changed it to 
> <1>, and the duplication problem has been solved, but now I have another 
> problem: all references point to one of the documents I cite. 
> 
> FTI: I use natbib andthe  authordate3 style
> 
> I tried to locate the problem by hand: 
> 
> 0/ I delete AUX and bbl files (also the blg one)
> 1/ I pdflatex the first time: no strange errors on the logs, I get the 
> standard "Package natbib Warning: Citation `XXX' on page 70 undefined on 
> input line
> 377 errors and Package natbib Warning: There were undefined citations..
> The AUX file contains:
> \citation{Binmore99} 
> \citation{Giraud00}
> \citation{Umbhauer02}
> and also \bibcite{} commands for them (is this normal?)
> 
> 2/ I run bibtex: no errors in the blg and the bbl contains the correct 
> references
> 3/ I run pdflatex again: 
> Now I continue to have the citation commands but all bibcite commands point 
> to the same reference:
> \bibcite{Binmore99}{{1}{1999}{{Binmore}}{{}}}
> \bibcite{Giraud00}{{2}{1999}{{Binmore}}{{}}}
> \bibcite{Umbhauer02}{{3}{1999}{{Binmore}}{{}}}
> 
> and I only get this reference in the PDF of course, instead of full reference 
> set.
> 
> I am quite perplexed now about the potential origin of this problem and I am 
> a rather obsessive guy :)
> 
> Have you met this problem or do you have any idea about it?
> 
> FYI information: when I switch the presentation to beamer Koma script 
> document class, the references are compiled correctly.
> 
> My preamble contains (but I have been using it for some time in other 
> documents, but not very recently):
> 
> \mode
> {
> \usetheme{Warsaw}
> \usecolortheme{lily}
> \setbeamercovered{invisible}
> \setbeamertemplate{navigation symbols}{}
> }
> \beamerdefaultoverlayspecification{<+->}
> \AtBeginSection[]
> {
> \begin{frame}
> \frametitle{Sections :}
> \tableofcontents[currentsection]
> \end{frame}
> }
> 
> and the slides with references and the bibliography have the overlay 
> specification <1> in Lyx.
> 


Sorry for filling your mailbox with my messages. I just wanted to finish by 
saying that the culprit is the

> \beamerdefaultoverlayspecification{<+->}

line in my preamble. When I commented it, everything got better.

I imagine that some of the defaults integrated in Beamer have changed, and my 
preamble is not working as it did with the old versions of Beamer.

I am sorry for having bothered you.

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Re: AUX file problems.

[Murat Yildizoglu]

> On 21 Jul 2024, at 17:48, Murat Yildizoglu  wrote:
> 
> Dear friends, 
> 
> I am importing a LaTeX file from an old LyX file after Claude translated it 
> to English from French (a very good translation of all text in French while 
> preserving the LaTeX instructions). 
> 
> The LaTeX file looks good and I can typeset it manually with pdflatex. But, I 
> want to re-edit it in LyX, and I am meeting a problem with the last version 
> of LyX 2.4.1 and MacTeX 2024 (they are not necessarily the culprit but I have 
> just updated them before doing these operations so they may be relevant in my 
> problem):
> 
> When I compile my imported file, some elements get duplicated in the LaTeX 
> file in the temp folder. In particular, I find duplicated references and 
> bibdata and bibstyle commands in the AUX file. My LyX file has only one 
> bibliography field at the end of the document. Latex generates warnings about 
> these duplications but when I click « Show the output anyway », I get a 
> readable PDF.
> 
> Do you know why compilation duplicates (in fact, triplicates) these elements 
> in the AUX file?
> 
> Thank you very much!
> 
> Murat

I have solved this problem: The source was the default overlay configuration in 
my preamble. For the slide containing the Bibliography, I changed it to <1>, 
and the duplication problem has been solved, but now I have another problem: 
all references point to one of the documents I cite. 

FTI: I use natbib andthe  authordate3 style

I tried to locate the problem by hand: 

0/ I delete AUX and bbl files (also the blg one)
1/ I pdflatex the first time: no strange errors on the logs, I get the standard 
"Package natbib Warning: Citation `XXX' on page 70 undefined on input line
 377 errors and Package natbib Warning: There were undefined citations..
The AUX file contains:
\citation{Binmore99} 
\citation{Giraud00}
\citation{Umbhauer02}
and also \bibcite{} commands for them (is this normal?)

2/ I run bibtex: no errors in the blg and the bbl contains the correct 
references
3/ I run pdflatex again: 
Now I continue to have the citation commands but all bibcite commands point to 
the same reference:
\bibcite{Binmore99}{{1}{1999}{{Binmore}}{{}}}
\bibcite{Giraud00}{{2}{1999}{{Binmore}}{{}}}
\bibcite{Umbhauer02}{{3}{1999}{{Binmore}}{{}}}

and I only get this reference in the PDF of course, instead of full reference 
set.

I am quite perplexed now about the potential origin of this problem and I am a 
rather obsessive guy :)

Have you met this problem or do you have any idea about it?

FYI information: when I switch the presentation to beamer Koma script document 
class, the references are compiled correctly.

My preamble contains (but I have been using it for some time in other 
documents, but not very recently):

\mode
{
\usetheme{Warsaw}
\usecolortheme{lily}
\setbeamercovered{invisible}
\setbeamertemplate{navigation symbols}{}
}
\beamerdefaultoverlayspecification{<+->}
\AtBeginSection[]
{
\begin{frame}
\frametitle{Sections :}
\tableofcontents[currentsection]
\end{frame}
}

and the slides with references and the bibliography have the overlay 
specification <1> in Lyx.


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AUX file problems.

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Dear friends, 

I am importing a LaTeX file from an old LyX file after Claude translated it to 
English from French (a very good translation of all text in French while 
preserving the LaTeX instructions). 

The LaTeX file looks good and I can typeset it manually with pdflatex. But, I 
want to re-edit it in LyX, and I am meeting a problem with the last version of 
LyX 2.4.1 and MacTeX 2024 (they are not necessarily the culprit but I have just 
updated them before doing these operations so they may be relevant in my 
problem):

When I compile my imported file, some elements get duplicated in the LaTeX file 
in the temp folder. In particular, I find duplicated references and bibdata and 
bibstyle commands in the AUX file. My LyX file has only one bibliography field 
at the end of the document. Latex generates warnings about these duplications 
but when I click « Show the output anyway », I get a readable PDF.

Do you know why compilation duplicates (in fact, triplicates) these elements in 
the AUX file?

Thank you very much!

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Re: Scrolling unresponsive in LyX 2.4.0

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 21/07/2024 à 05:04, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit :
Hmm. It did not occur to me when adding that that this might show up in 
the status bar. Maybe it didn't then? Anyway, I should have a look at 
some point.


I plan to give a go at a rewrite of the stat gathering code today, to 
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Cross referencing

[A-Imam Al-Sammak]

Hello everyone

How to refer to sub-figures with parentheses as Fig. 1(a) instead of Fig.
1a?

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Re: Scrolling unresponsive in LyX 2.4.0

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/20/24 7:08 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Le 16/07/2024 à 00:13, Hung-Tzu Chang a écrit :
Here are the files. The file named "scroll-problem" means problem 
with scrolling/frozen citation window/frozen menu bar, etc.


Thanks!


Dear Hung-Tzu,

Thanks for the files. I can confirm that I observe hangs when 
scrolling with LyX 2.4.1 and that the performance is much much better 
with current 2.4.2~devel.


Running under a profiler reveals that the problem is related to the 
word-counting function in status bar; this triggers every few seconds 
and generate the label of citation insets in order to count words in 
there.


Hmm. It did not occur to me when adding that that this might show up in 
the status bar. Maybe it didn't then? Anyway, I should have a look at 
some point.


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Re: Scrolling unresponsive in LyX 2.4.0

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 16/07/2024 à 00:13, Hung-Tzu Chang a écrit :
Here are the files. The file named "scroll-problem" means problem with 
scrolling/frozen citation window/frozen menu bar, etc.


Thanks!


Dear Hung-Tzu,

Thanks for the files. I can confirm that I observe hangs when scrolling 
with LyX 2.4.1 and that the performance is much much better with current 
2.4.2~devel.


Running under a profiler reveals that the problem is related to the 
word-counting function in status bar; this triggers every few seconds 
and generate the label of citation insets in order to count words in there.


So the good news is that these "hang" events should disappear if you 
disable this feature by right-clicking the status bar.


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Re: Kudos to lyx creators!

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/18/24 2:26 PM, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:


El jue, 18 jul 2024 a las 19:26, Steve Litt 
() escribió:



Is there a converter to bring a book written in WordPerfect 5.1 (DOS,
CLI) into LyX? I have such a book.


You may try to open it on LibreOffice and save as odt, then import 
into LyX. LibreOffice uses the libwpd library that, it seems, offer 
support for such an old format:


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/DLP/Libraries#Import_Libraries
https://libwpd.sourceforge.net/features.html


Or open in LibreOffice and export as LaTeX.

There is also this:

https://ctan.org/pkg/wp2latex

I used it to convert quite a lot some years ago.

None of these are flawless. It depends a lot on the complexity of the 
document.


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Re: LyX & Windows on Arm?

[Yu Jin]

Am Do., 18. Juli 2024 um 04:47 Uhr schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck <
rikih...@gmail.com>:

> On 7/17/24 8:48 PM, Allan Chain wrote:
> >
> >> On 7/17/24 12:33 PM, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:
> >>> Has anyone tested LyX + MikTeX (or other distribution) wrt. running
> >>> on Windows for ARM?
> >>>
> >>> * In emulation mode (Prism, or whatever)
> >>> * Is there a native ARM version for Windows?
> >>>
> >>> [I'm tempted by the battery life... although HP also claims the
> >>> Omnibook Ultra with coming AMD processor has good battery life...]
> >>
> >> I guess the first question is whether Qt is available for ARM on
> >> Windows. I would expect LyX itself to compile.
> >>
> >> Riki
> > The Windows ARM support in Qt (https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/windows.html) is
> > currently in technical preview, and applications have to be
> > cross-compiled from an x86-64 Windows machine and deployed to target.
> > With upcoming Qt 6.8, Windows on ARM will one of the standard desktop
> > platforms supported in Qt. However, I didn't find any instruction on
> > how to do the cross-compile.
>
> I would guess it could even be done on Linux. I used to build the
> Windows package on Linux before Eugene came along, though of course that
> was for x86_64.
>

I think it would not be hard to compile itself, rather to get all the
dependencies for ARM64. Like netbpm, unoconv, rsvg-convert and all the
runtime dll files which are delivered with lyx.
To cross compile there is just a workload in Visual Studio for cross
compiling to ARM64 Windows, doesn't seem too hard tbh.


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Re: Kudos to lyx creators!

[Ricardo Berlasso]

El jue, 18 jul 2024 a las 19:26, Steve Litt ()
escribió:

>
> Is there a converter to bring a book written in WordPerfect 5.1 (DOS,
> CLI) into LyX? I have such a book.
>

You may try to open it on LibreOffice and save as odt, then import into
LyX. LibreOffice uses the libwpd library that, it seems, offer support for
such an old format:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/DLP/Libraries#Import_Libraries
https://libwpd.sourceforge.net/features.html

Regards,
Ricardo

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Re: Kudos to lyx creators!

[Steve Litt]

Richard Kimberly Heck said on Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:04:12 -0400

>On 7/15/24 11:35 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
>> I just had the misfortune to need to convert from a docx file, which 
>> included math, to lyx.  I tried the builtin import and was
>> pleasantly surprised!  It worked great, converting math and all
>> sorts of formatting correctly. Considering MS can't even seem to
>> read and render it's own math, that's impressive!  
>
>We appreciate the sentiment, but the conversion is actually being done 
>by some other program for which we are not responsible. You can find
>out which program by looking at Tools> Preferences> File Handling> 
>Converters. Here, it is wvCleanLatex, which is part of wvWare.
>
>Riki

Is there a converter to bring a book written in WordPerfect 5.1 (DOS,
CLI) into LyX? I have such a book.

SteveT

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Re: LyX & Windows on Arm?

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/17/24 8:48 PM, Allan Chain wrote:



On 7/17/24 12:33 PM, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:
Has anyone tested LyX + MikTeX (or other distribution) wrt. running 
on Windows for ARM?


* In emulation mode (Prism, or whatever)
* Is there a native ARM version for Windows?

[I'm tempted by the battery life... although HP also claims the 
Omnibook Ultra with coming AMD processor has good battery life...]


I guess the first question is whether Qt is available for ARM on
Windows. I would expect LyX itself to compile.

Riki
The Windows ARM support in Qt (https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/windows.html) is 
currently in technical preview, and applications have to be 
cross-compiled from an x86-64 Windows machine and deployed to target. 
With upcoming Qt 6.8, Windows on ARM will one of the standard desktop 
platforms supported in Qt. However, I didn't find any instruction on 
how to do the cross-compile.


I would guess it could even be done on Linux. I used to build the 
Windows package on Linux before Eugene came along, though of course that 
was for x86_64.


Riki



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Re: LyX & Windows on Arm?

[Allan Chain]

On 7/17/24 12:33 PM, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:

Has anyone tested LyX + MikTeX (or other distribution) wrt. running on Windows 
for ARM?

* In emulation mode (Prism, or whatever)
* Is there a native ARM version for Windows?

[I'm tempted by the battery life... although HP also claims the Omnibook Ultra 
with coming AMD processor has good battery life...]


I guess the first question is whether Qt is available for ARM on
Windows. I would expect LyX itself to compile.

Riki
The Windows ARM support in Qt (https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/windows.html) is 
currently in technical preview, and applications have to be 
cross-compiled from an x86-64 Windows machine and deployed to target. 
With upcoming Qt 6.8, Windows on ARM will one of the standard desktop 
platforms supported in Qt. However, I didn't find any instruction on how 
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Re: LyX & Windows on Arm?

[Yu Jin]

Am Mi., 17. Juli 2024 um 21:26 Uhr schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck <
rikih...@gmail.com>:

> On 7/17/24 12:33 PM, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:
> > Has anyone tested LyX + MikTeX (or other distribution) wrt. running on
> Windows for ARM?
> >
> > * In emulation mode (Prism, or whatever)
> > * Is there a native ARM version for Windows?
> >
> > [I'm tempted by the battery life... although HP also claims the Omnibook
> Ultra with coming AMD processor has good battery life...]
>
> I guess the first question is whether Qt is available for ARM on
> Windows.

Yeah it is, for a while already actually.

> I would expect LyX itself to compile.

Don't know, I don't have an ARM machine here to try. But if all would go
well, then it would be native ARM on Windows of course.
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Re: LyX & Windows on Arm?

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/17/24 12:33 PM, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:

Has anyone tested LyX + MikTeX (or other distribution) wrt. running on Windows 
for ARM?

* In emulation mode (Prism, or whatever)
* Is there a native ARM version for Windows?

[I'm tempted by the battery life... although HP also claims the Omnibook Ultra 
with coming AMD processor has good battery life...]


I guess the first question is whether Qt is available for ARM on 
Windows. I would expect LyX itself to compile.


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LyX & Windows on Arm?

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

Has anyone tested LyX + MikTeX (or other distribution) wrt. running on Windows 
for ARM?

* In emulation mode (Prism, or whatever)
* Is there a native ARM version for Windows?

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Re: Book Tufte / BibLaTeX?

[Herbert Voss]

Am 17.07.24 um 04:25 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck:

On 7/16/24 12:30 PM, Mathias Girel wrote:

Dear fellow users
First of all, congratulations and many thanks to the community for 
Lyx 2.4!!
My question is the following: I'm using the Book Tufte class for a 
report, and it works great for all the figures and floating 
environments. My only problem is that I'd like to use BibLaTeX, as 
some of my references would be better rendered with one of the 
verbose styles, and bibtex seems to be "built in" the class, when I 
select it in LyX.

Is there a known workaround for this?


The tufte classes load BibTeX themselves. There are workarounds:

https://texhax.tug.narkive.com/VftK5QL2/tufte-book-style-and-biblatex

But it's not trivial.



I have a modified version of tufte.cls for biber/biblatex and using
lualatex with open type fonts. I also modified the citations in the example
file, which were wrong!


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Re: Book Tufte / BibLaTeX?

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/16/24 12:30 PM, Mathias Girel wrote:

Dear fellow users
First of all, congratulations and many thanks to the community for Lyx 
2.4!!
My question is the following: I'm using the Book Tufte class for a 
report, and it works great for all the figures and floating 
environments. My only problem is that I'd like to use BibLaTeX, as 
some of my references would be better rendered with one of the verbose 
styles, and bibtex seems to be "built in" the class, when I select it 
in LyX.

Is there a known workaround for this?


The tufte classes load BibTeX themselves. There are workarounds:

https://texhax.tug.narkive.com/VftK5QL2/tufte-book-style-and-biblatex

But it's not trivial.

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Re: Searching the lyx-users questions

[Udicoudco]

On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 10:20 PM David Cardon
 wrote:
>
> Is there a way to search the lyx-users questions without having to click on 
> each individual month?

I believe searching in
https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/info.html
should work.

Udi

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Is there a way to search the lyx-users questions without having to click on
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Book Tufte / BibLaTeX?

[Mathias Girel]

Dear fellow users
First of all, congratulations and many thanks to the community for Lyx 2.4!!
My question is the following: I'm using the Book Tufte class for a report,
and it works great for all the figures and floating environments. My
only problem is that I'd like to use BibLaTeX, as some of my references
would be better rendered with one of the verbose styles, and bibtex seems
to be "built in" the class, when I select it in LyX.
Is there a known workaround for this?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
All the best
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Re: Location of personal dictionary

[Matthias Schmidt]

Thank you very much for your help. I was able to solve the problem.
 
I use Windows 10. I found the file - in my case pwl_ngerman.dict - in the 
directory C:\user\'myname'\Appdata\Roaming\LyX2.3.
 
Matthias



Monday, July 15, 2024, 6:19:14 PM, schrieben Sie:

> Am Montag, dem 15.07.2024 um 11:58 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck:
>> LyX does not handle this itself. Rather, it is using some other
>> backend spellchecker, like Hunspell (also used by Chrome, Firefox,
>> LibreOffice, etc). If you look under Tools> Preferences> Language
Settings>>> Spellchecker, you can find out what spell checker is being
>> used. Then try searching the web for info on where the personal
>> dictionary is stored.

> The spell checkers have their own files, yes.

> However, LyX also stores personal word lists under the name
> pwl_.dict (I am not sure it is used by all spell checker
> backends, but it is at least by aspell, hunspell and enchant).

> These files are located in your user directory (see Help > About LyX
> for where this is).

> On some OSes (Mac I think), each major version has its own user
> directory (with a version suffix). You might find your files in the one
> of 2.3 and then copy them to the 2.4 directory.

> Ideally, these files should be copied over by the installers on
> upgrading, as we do with other files.



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Re: Location of personal dictionary

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag, dem 15.07.2024 um 11:58 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck:
> LyX does not handle this itself. Rather, it is using some other
> backend spellchecker, like Hunspell (also used by Chrome, Firefox,
> LibreOffice, etc). If you look under Tools> Preferences> Language
> Settings> Spellchecker, you can find out what spell checker is being
> used. Then try searching the web for info on where the personal
> dictionary is stored.

The spell checkers have their own files, yes.

However, LyX also stores personal word lists under the name
pwl_.dict (I am not sure it is used by all spell checker
backends, but it is at least by aspell, hunspell and enchant).

These files are located in your user directory (see Help > About LyX
for where this is).

On some OSes (Mac I think), each major version has its own user
directory (with a version suffix). You might find your files in the one
of 2.3 and then copy them to the 2.4 directory.

Ideally, these files should be copied over by the installers on
upgrading, as we do with other files.

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Re: Kudos to lyx creators!

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:35:42AM GMT, Neal Becker wrote:
> I just had the misfortune to need to convert from a docx file, which
> included math, to lyx.  I tried the builtin import and was pleasantly
> surprised!  It worked great, converting math and all sorts of formatting
> correctly.  Considering MS can't even seem to read and render it's own
> math, that's impressive!

I must say I'm surprised, but that's great! If I remember correctly, the
kudos should go to pandoc, which LyX simply calls to convert to LaTeX
(and then LyX does the subsequent conversion from LaTeX to LyX format).

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Re: Kudos to lyx creators!

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/15/24 11:35 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
I just had the misfortune to need to convert from a docx file, which 
included math, to lyx.  I tried the builtin import and was pleasantly 
surprised!  It worked great, converting math and all sorts of 
formatting correctly. Considering MS can't even seem to read and 
render it's own math, that's impressive!


We appreciate the sentiment, but the conversion is actually being done 
by some other program for which we are not responsible. You can find out 
which program by looking at Tools> Preferences> File Handling> 
Converters. Here, it is wvCleanLatex, which is part of wvWare.


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Re: Location of personal dictionary

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/15/24 10:08 AM, Matthias Schmidt wrote:


I have just updated my LyX from 2.3.8 to 2.4.1. In the process, my 
personal dictionary that I have built up over time in LyX 2.3 does not 
seem to have been transferred to Lyx 2.4.


I think I can copy this personal dictionary from LyX 2.3 to LyX 2.4, 
but I don't know where to find it.


My question: Does anyone know where this personal dictionary is stored 
in LyX 2.3?



The first question is going to be what OS you use.


LyX does not handle this itself. Rather, it is using some other backend 
spellchecker, like Hunspell (also used by Chrome, Firefox, LibreOffice, 
etc). If you look under Tools> Preferences> Language Settings> 
Spellchecker, you can find out what spell checker is being used. Then 
try searching the web for info on where the personal dictionary is stored.



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Re: Scrolling unresponsive in LyX 2.4.0

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 13/07/2024 à 15:17, Hung-Tzu Chang a écrit :

Dear Jean-Marc,

There are a few entries with about 10 authors or so. If this counts as 
large then maybe this is the case. The interesting thing is that the 
freeze when scrolling through the list of potential citation entries 
occurs mostly (if not always) when the \cite command is clicked for the 
first time, while the freeze with clicking the "Cancel" button happens 
irrespective of whether the \cite command is clicked before or not. This 
phenomenon also happens exclusively for 2.4 series. I have not 
experienced this in version 2.3.7.


The example of "large" that we had was 1000+ authors, and it caused a 
crash of the whole session for the reporter.


To see whether 10 authors is large, could you try to remove those 
particular entries from the bibtex file and see whether this helps?


P.S. One more thing that I just noticed. The freeze of the main window 
does not occur exclusively for scrolling. It can also be triggered when 
clicking an item on the menu bar (e.g. File). The drop-down menu would 
freeze for a few seconds and go back to normal. Whether the main 
window/menu freeze or the freeze of the citation window occurs depends 
on the file (complexity). For a small/simple file (~700 words) with the 
same bibtex library (and some cited references with many authors) these 
do not happen.


Is it a file that you can share with me? You can try to anonymize it using
  Command-x buffer-anonymize

Hope this helps,
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Kudos to lyx creators!

[Neal Becker]

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included math, to lyx.  I tried the builtin import and was pleasantly
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Location of personal dictionary

[Matthias Schmidt]

I have just updated my LyX from 2.3.8 to 2.4.1. In the process, my personal 
dictionary that I have built up over time in LyX 2.3 does not seem to have been 
transferred to Lyx 2.4.
 
I think I can copy this personal dictionary from LyX 2.3 to LyX 2.4, but I 
don't know where to find it.
 
My question: Does anyone know where this personal dictionary is stored in LyX 
2.3?
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Re: Scrolling unresponsive in LyX 2.4.0

[Hung-Tzu Chang via lyx-users]

Dear Jean-Marc,

There are a few entries with about 10 authors or so. If this counts as
large then maybe this is the case. The interesting thing is that the freeze
when scrolling through the list of potential citation entries occurs mostly
(if not always) when the \cite command is clicked for the first time, while
the freeze with clicking the "Cancel" button happens irrespective of
whether the \cite command is clicked before or not. This phenomenon also
happens exclusively for 2.4 series. I have not experienced this in version
2.3.7.

Thanks!

Best,
Hung-Tzu

P.S. One more thing that I just noticed. The freeze of the main window does
not occur exclusively for scrolling. It can also be triggered when clicking
an item on the menu bar (e.g. File). The drop-down menu would freeze for a
few seconds and go back to normal. Whether the main window/menu freeze or
the freeze of the citation window occurs depends on the file (complexity).
For a small/simple file (~700 words) with the same bibtex library (and some
cited references with many authors) these do not happen.

On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 12:57 PM Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 
wrote:

> Hi Hung-Tzu,
>
> Do you have bibtex entries with a very large number of authors ? There
> will be a fix for this situation in 2.4.2.
>
> JMarc
>
> Le 13 juillet 2024 09:10:14 GMT+02:00, Hung-Tzu Chang <
> htch...@berkeley.edu> a écrit :
> >Dear Scott and Jean-Marc,
> >
> >I just tested the official build of LyX 2.4.1 on macOS 12.7(intel). The
> >scrolling problem still exists. Another thing I found is that when opening
> >the citation window by clicking on an existing \cite command in the
> >document, the program would also freeze for a few seconds. The freeze also
> >occurred when scrolling the list of cite keys and clicking "Cancel" of
> that
> >window. However, this freeze seems to mostly occur on \cite commands which
> >were not clicked before. I have got callgrind output with gperftools for
> >the two occasions (attached) but wasn't able to analyze them as I have no
> >experience with this before. (I have only run gprof for command-line
> >programs before but gprof builds don't seem to work on mac...)
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Re: Scrolling unresponsive in LyX 2.4.0

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Hi Hung-Tzu,

Do you have bibtex entries with a very large number of authors ? There will be 
a fix for this situation in 2.4.2.

JMarc 

Le 13 juillet 2024 09:10:14 GMT+02:00, Hung-Tzu Chang  a 
écrit :
>Dear Scott and Jean-Marc,
>
>I just tested the official build of LyX 2.4.1 on macOS 12.7(intel). The
>scrolling problem still exists. Another thing I found is that when opening
>the citation window by clicking on an existing \cite command in the
>document, the program would also freeze for a few seconds. The freeze also
>occurred when scrolling the list of cite keys and clicking "Cancel" of that
>window. However, this freeze seems to mostly occur on \cite commands which
>were not clicked before. I have got callgrind output with gperftools for
>the two occasions (attached) but wasn't able to analyze them as I have no
>experience with this before. (I have only run gprof for command-line
>programs before but gprof builds don't seem to work on mac...)
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Re: Lyx 2.4 dark theme

[A-Imam Al-Sammak]

Thank you Yu Jin. This worked beautifully.

A-Imam

On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 10:35 PM Yu Jin  wrote:

> Am Fr., 12. Juli 2024 um 12:00 Uhr schrieb A-Imam Al-Sammak:
>
>> Dear all
>> I have been using Lyx 2.3 for a while, which I enjoy. Recently, I
>> downloaded Lyx 2.4.1 which is fine except for having the dark theme as
>> mandatory. How can I use the 2.3 theme for 2.4?
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>
> If you are using Windows then check this message:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg116513.html
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Re: Scrolling unresponsive in LyX 2.4.0

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Jun 08, 2024 at 11:21:44AM GMT, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 07/06/2024 à 22:01, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit :
> > On 6/7/24 15:13, Hung-Tzu Chang via lyx-users wrote:
> > > I recently installed LyX 2.4.0 on macOS 12.7.5(intel) and found that
> > > scrolling plain-text (revtex4-2, with several sections with math,
> > > comments and LyX note plus an appendix but no figures) documents
> > > created by LyX 2.3.7 tends to lag. This can be reproduced by quickly
> > > scrolling the document up and down by 3-5 times. Sometimes the
> > > program would stop responding and recover after a few seconds.
> > > Converting the document to LyX 2.4 format with lyx2lyx does not
> > > help. Also this behaviour occurs with both Qt5 and Qt6 libraries (Qt
> > > 5.15.12 and Qt 6.6.2 from Homebrew). This did not happen to LyX
> > > 2.3.7.
> > 
> > I believe this is a known issue, which will be fixed (we think!) for 2.4.1.
> 
> Unfortunately I am not so sure about that :( It is not normal to have a
> regression in 2.4.0.
> 
> Hung-Tsu, do you have a document that you could share with me for testing?
> 
> Even better, do you know how to use a profiler like Instruments to see where
> the time is spent? I did all the testing on Linux, and there is a
> possibility that caching of glyphs behave differently on macOS.
> 
> Do you have math previews enabled? Does it make a difference if you change
> the setting?

Dear Hung-Tzu Chang,

Are things better with 2.4.1?

Scott


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Re: Lyx 2.4 dark theme

[Yu Jin]

Am Fr., 12. Juli 2024 um 12:00 Uhr schrieb A-Imam Al-Sammak:

> Dear all
> I have been using Lyx 2.3 for a while, which I enjoy. Recently, I
> downloaded Lyx 2.4.1 which is fine except for having the dark theme as
> mandatory. How can I use the 2.3 theme for 2.4?
>
> Best regards.
>

If you are using Windows then check this message:
https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg116513.html
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Lyx 2.4 dark theme

[A-Imam Al-Sammak]

Dear all
I have been using Lyx 2.3 for a while, which I enjoy. Recently, I
downloaded Lyx 2.4.1 which is fine except for having the dark theme as
mandatory. How can I use the 2.3 theme for 2.4?

Best regards.

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Re: LyX 2.4.1

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 12/07/2024 à 03:38, John O'Gorman a écrit :

As long term user of LyX (since its beginning) I love it.

BUT

Since installing 2.4.0 then 2.4.1 I have had a problem it took me 3 days 
to solve:


an early user on my system could not see any of the characters in a LyX 
file.


What operating system is this?


The solution turned out as  follows:

1. Go to the user's home directory

2. There is a directory there called .config

3. Remove .config/LyX/lyx.conf ( by renaming it)

4. Reinvokde LyX

5. Lyx 2.4.1 now works!


Could you make the two .conf files available so that we can compare 
them? What you describe is very strange to me.


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Re: 2.4.1

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 12/07/2024 à 04:31, John O'Gorman a écrit :

Hi

When I use LyX 2.4.1 on an old lyx file, I expect it to be updated to 
version 2.4.1.


This does not happen.

Should I expect it to happen or this a feature awaiting development>


Hi,

There is no 2.4.1 format, but only a 2.4 one. We try to guarantee that 
updating to a new minor version is safe. All these versions should 
read/write the same files.


The file format changes at each major version. The last minor version of 
each series (2.3.8 now) has code to read files produced by the next 
major series (2.4.x currently).


Hope this helps.

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2.4.1

[John O'Gorman]

Hi

When I use LyX 2.4.1 on an old lyx file, I expect it to be updated to 
version 2.4.1.


This does not happen.

Should I expect it to happen or this a feature awaiting development>

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LyX 2.4.1

[John O'Gorman]

As long term user of LyX (since its beginning) I love it.

BUT

Since installing 2.4.0 then 2.4.1 I have had a problem it took me 3 days 
to solve:


an early user on my system could not see any of the characters in a LyX 
file.


The LyX could create a usable PDF file and print that OK.

Other users had no similar problem.

The solution turned out as  follows:

1. Go to the user's home directory

2. There is a directory there called .config

3. Remove .config/LyX/lyx.conf ( by renaming it)

4. Reinvokde LyX

5. Lyx 2.4.1 now works!


Can nayone explain what might have happened and why.

I can't find anything in the help files that explain it.

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Re: seeking help changing theme in lyx

[Yu Jin]

Am Mi., 10. Juli 2024 um 08:12 Uhr schrieb Jon Snow:

> Hi I just installed lyx and I’ve been trying forever to change the theme
> to white and yellow like I always see in youtube videos but lyx keeps using
> my system default (which is dark mode) no matter what I don’t know why I
> would very much appreciate it if you could help me solve this problem its
> so annoying for me to work on lyx with black and white theme
>
> I also tried going to preferences ->colors and no matte what colors I pick
> there it stays the same, also tried going to documents -> settings->color
> and tried to change things there no matter what I do it also stays the same
>

The thing here is that starting from version 6.5 Qt "supports" dark theme
by following your system theme and starting from version 6.7 Qt even uses
the ui style "windows11" by default which (also) has a dark theme. So you
end up with that style and dark theme if your system is set to dark. You
can avoid it by choosing a different ui style, which does not have a dark
theme, in the preferences -> user interface -> user interface style. The
only style *without* dark theme is "windowsvista" though, it was the
default style on Windows in Qt versions pre 6.7. I usually compile with the
newest Qt version for Windows, so LyX 2.4.0 and newer uses Qt version 6.7
and newer so that is why you get the dark theme now.
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Colorbox destroys Index

[Andreas Plihal via lyx-users]

Dear Herbert,

 

Yes, you're right! Thank you very much. But this is a bit mysterious: there is now an index where there was none several times.

 

Greetings

Andreas

 
 

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2. LyX 2.4.1 Released (Richard Kimberly Heck)
3. Re: LyX 2.4.1 Released (Jos? Matos)
4. Subscribe (Fr?d?ric de Montmollin)
5. Re: LyX 2.4.1 Released (Dr Eberhard Lisse)
6. seeking help changing theme in lyx (Jon Snow)


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Am 04.07.24 um 16:16 schrieb Andreas Plihal via lyx-users:
> I am writing a KOMA book with an index. However, I have noticed that
> the index disappears exactly when only one of my numerous color boxes
> contains even a single keyword. I have made two MWEs: one without a
> color box and one with a color box. The PDF of the first one has an
> index, the second one does not.
> Do you have any idea how I could avoid this error?

An index is in _both_ pdf documents

Herbert


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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 00:13:25 -0400
From: Richard Kimberly Heck 
To: lyx-users , LyX Developers
, "lyx-annou...@lists.lyx.org"

Subject: LyX 2.4.1 Released
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We are proud to announce the release LyX 2.4.1, the first maintenance
release in the 2.4.x series.

We have fixed a number of bugs in this version. Most of these are minor,
but there was one crash when deleting rows or columns from a table that has
been fixed. There have also been some improvements to tab management. See
the complete list of updates and improvements below for more.

You can download LyX 2.4.1 from https://www.lyx.org/Download.

If you have trouble using LyX or have a question, consult the
documentation that comes with LyX (under Help) and the LyX wiki, which you
will find at https://wiki.lyx.org/. You can also send email to the LyX
users'
list (lyx-users at lists.lyx.org). Bugs can be reported on our bug tracker
(https://www.lyx.org/trac/) or by writing the developers' list (lyx-devel at
lists.lyx.org).

The LyX team.
https://www.lyx.org

This file describes what has been done in the preparation of LyX 2.4.1.
All comments are welcome.


What's new
==

** Updates:
***

* USER INTERFACE

- Add plain single quote to menu (bug 13025).

- In context menus, more items are now shown on top level.

- Show full inset context-menu when clicking on text part of collapsible
? (bug 10370).

- Allow relative statistics values in statusbar, improve update times for
? some UI and buffer operations.

- The performance of LyX with large insets on slower computers has
? been improved a lot (bug 12297).

- Fix crash with variable column width tables.

- Add bindings for 'paste, join lines'.

- middle-button pasting (in Linux) now preserves middle-button pasting
? (as does Edit > Paste since 2.4.0).


* DOCUMENTATION AND LOCALIZATION

- Clarify quote-insert LFUN.

- Updates to Chinese (simplified), Czech, French, German, Hebrew,
? Brazilian Portuguese, Slovokian, and Ukranian translations.


* BUILD/INSTALLATION

- Fix cmake build with qt6 (macos), which did not include
? "plugins".


** Bug fixes:
*

* DOCUMENT INPUT/OUTPUT

-Do not check for diverging input encoding if the files use XeTeX/LuaTeX

- The g-brief and g-brief2 letter classes load babel internally. LyX now
? is aware of that.

- Fix some cases where beamer breaks with the new cprotect mechanism.

- Fix case where new cprotect mechanism breaks with caption.

- Update acknowledgments handling in aastex63 layout
? (cf. https://journals.aas.org/aastexguide/#acknowledgments)

- Make textstyle-update LFUN work properly inside equations.

- Make buffer-reset-export LFUN work properly.

- Remove redundant code from preamble of double column Hebrew
? documents (bug 12919)


* USER INTERFACE

- Fix crash when deleting rows or columns from table.

- Avoid crash when InsetBibitem::updateCommand shows a dialog.

- Set cursor font after pasting to PassThru (e.g., ERT) inset (bug 12592).

- Do not ask about unapplied changes if 

Re: Installing LyX 2.4.1 and 2.3.8 side by side

[Eberhard W Lisse]

Why on earth do that?

Version Control and Backup.

el

On 10/07/2024 17:54, M. Luque wrote:
> In any case, I would recommend exporting the document periodically
> to plain LaTeX to have a backup in case something goes wrong in any
> version of LyX.

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Re: Installing LyX 2.4.1 and 2.3.8 side by side

[M. Luque]

In any case, I would recommend exporting the document periodically to plain
LaTeX to have a backup in case something goes wrong in any version of LyX.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024, 16:50 Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 08:28:36AM GMT, tkp...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Can I install both LyX 2.4.1 and 2.3.8 simultaneously on my Windows
> laptop
> > with TeXLive 2023?
>
> I believe in theory yes, not sure how it works in practice.
>
> > If I edit and save a file using LyX 2.4.1 will it still
> > be viewable and editable using 2.3.8?
>
> I think so, but even if technically possible I wouldn't recommend it.
> Longer explanation: 2.3.8 has code ("lyx2lyx") to convert 2.4.x files
> back into 2.3.x file format. So yes, you should be able to open them,
> and please let us know if there is any problem if you do so because that
> could be a bug. That said, if you continually change between 2.4.x and
> 2.3.8, you'll be doing a lot of conversions, and there's a good chance
> something could go wrong. My recommendation would be to just use 2.3.8
> and wait until you (and your coauthors) are ready to upgrade everything
> to 2.4.x.
>
> Scott
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Re: seeking help changing theme in lyx

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 7/9/24 3:01 PM, Jon Snow wrote:


Hi I just installed lyx and I’ve been trying forever to change the 
theme to white and yellow like I always see in youtube videos but lyx 
keeps using my system default (which is dark mode) no matter what I 
don’t know why I would very much appreciate it if you could help me 
solve this problem its so annoying for me to work on lyx with black 
and white theme


I also tried going to preferences ->colors and no matte what colors I 
pick there it stays the same,



That is the one you want. Is "Use System Colors" checked?

If so, I would suggest trying with a new user directory. You can move 
your existing one. (Location at About> LyX.)


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Re: Installing LyX 2.4.1 and 2.3.8 side by side

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 08:28:36AM GMT, tkp...@gmail.com wrote:
> Can I install both LyX 2.4.1 and 2.3.8 simultaneously on my Windows laptop
> with TeXLive 2023?

I believe in theory yes, not sure how it works in practice.

> If I edit and save a file using LyX 2.4.1 will it still
> be viewable and editable using 2.3.8? 

I think so, but even if technically possible I wouldn't recommend it.
Longer explanation: 2.3.8 has code ("lyx2lyx") to convert 2.4.x files
back into 2.3.x file format. So yes, you should be able to open them,
and please let us know if there is any problem if you do so because that
could be a bug. That said, if you continually change between 2.4.x and
2.3.8, you'll be doing a lot of conversions, and there's a good chance
something could go wrong. My recommendation would be to just use 2.3.8
and wait until you (and your coauthors) are ready to upgrade everything
to 2.4.x.

Scott




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Re: seeking help changing theme in lyx

[Eckhard Höffner]

I tried to reverse the colors. One can use the general settings to 
change the colors, but it took me to long, so I keep the default values.


You can change the color of the text and the background, but get 
problems with rest like marks, inserts and so on. Sometimes those 
"extras" are barely readable on a bright background.


Am 09.07.24 um 9:01 PM schrieb Jon Snow:


Hi I just installed lyx and I’ve been trying forever to change the 
theme to white and yellow like I always see in youtube videos but lyx 
keeps using my system default (which is dark mode) no matter what I 
don’t know why I would very much appreciate it if you could help me 
solve this problem its so annoying for me to work on lyx with black 
and white theme


I also tried going to preferences ->colors and no matte what colors I 
pick there it stays the same, also tried going to documents -> 
settings->color and tried to change things there no matter what I do 
it also stays the same


Thank you in advance,

Sent from Mail  for 
Windows




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Installing LyX 2.4.1 and 2.3.8 side by side

[tkpmep]

Can I install both LyX 2.4.1 and 2.3.8 simultaneously on my Windows laptop
with TeXLive 2023? If I edit and save a file using LyX 2.4.1 will it still
be viewable and editable using 2.3.8? 

 

Sincerely and with many thanks in advance

 

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seeking help changing theme in lyx

[Jon Snow]

Hi I just installed lyx and I’ve been trying forever to change the theme to 
white and yellow like I always see in youtube videos but lyx keeps using my 
system default (which is dark mode) no matter what I don’t know why I would 
very much appreciate it if you could help me solve this problem its so annoying 
for me to work on lyx with black and white theme
I also tried going to preferences ->colors and no matte what colors I pick 
there it stays the same, also tried going to documents -> settings->color and 
tried to change things there no matter what I do it also stays the same

Thank you in advance,


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Re: LyX 2.4.1 Released

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

I do notice now, that when putting a cursor on a word in the text I
don't see on the bottom toolbar which size/type the word is displayed
in (if for example in Smaller). Is that a Feature? If so where can I
turn that on again?

greetings, el

On 2024/07/05 06:13, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
[...]
> Bugs can be reported on our bug tracker (https://www.lyx.org/trac/)
> or by writing the developers' list (lyx-devel at lists.lyx.org).
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Re: LyX 2.4.1 Released

[José Matos]

On Fri, 2024-07-05 at 00:13 -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> We are proud to announce the release LyX 2.4.1, the first maintenance
> release in the 2.4.x series.

Updates created for Fedora:

F41: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-7b7b5065ec
F40: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-2e20b0f97f
F39: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-6f608b611a

In a day they will be in updates-testing, after a probation period (one
week at most) if there are no problems the updates will go to updates.

If you are Fedora user, and use these packages, please test them and
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LyX 2.4.1 Released

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

We are proud to announce the release LyX 2.4.1, the first maintenance
release in the 2.4.x series.

We have fixed a number of bugs in this version. Most of these are minor,
but there was one crash when deleting rows or columns from a table that has
been fixed. There have also been some improvements to tab management. See
the complete list of updates and improvements below for more.

You can download LyX 2.4.1 from https://www.lyx.org/Download.

If you have trouble using LyX or have a question, consult the
documentation that comes with LyX (under Help) and the LyX wiki, which you
will find at https://wiki.lyx.org/. You can also send email to the LyX 
users'

list (lyx-users at lists.lyx.org). Bugs can be reported on our bug tracker
(https://www.lyx.org/trac/) or by writing the developers' list (lyx-devel at
lists.lyx.org).

The LyX team.
https://www.lyx.org

This file describes what has been done in the preparation of LyX 2.4.1.
All comments are welcome.


What's new
==

** Updates:
***

* USER INTERFACE

- Add plain single quote to menu (bug 13025).

- In context menus, more items are now shown on top level.

- Show full inset context-menu when clicking on text part of collapsible
  (bug 10370).

- Allow relative statistics values in statusbar, improve update times for
  some UI and buffer operations.

- The performance of LyX with large insets on slower computers has
  been improved a lot (bug 12297).

- Fix crash with variable column width tables.

- Add bindings for 'paste, join lines'.

- middle-button pasting (in Linux) now preserves middle-button pasting
  (as does Edit > Paste since 2.4.0).


* DOCUMENTATION AND LOCALIZATION

- Clarify quote-insert LFUN.

- Updates to Chinese (simplified), Czech, French, German, Hebrew,
  Brazilian Portuguese, Slovokian, and Ukranian translations.


* BUILD/INSTALLATION

- Fix cmake build with qt6 (macos), which did not include
  "plugins".


** Bug fixes:
*

* DOCUMENT INPUT/OUTPUT

-Do not check for diverging input encoding if the files use XeTeX/LuaTeX

- The g-brief and g-brief2 letter classes load babel internally. LyX now
  is aware of that.

- Fix some cases where beamer breaks with the new cprotect mechanism.

- Fix case where new cprotect mechanism breaks with caption.

- Update acknowledgments handling in aastex63 layout
  (cf. https://journals.aas.org/aastexguide/#acknowledgments)

- Make textstyle-update LFUN work properly inside equations.

- Make buffer-reset-export LFUN work properly.

- Remove redundant code from preamble of double column Hebrew
  documents (bug 12919)


* USER INTERFACE

- Fix crash when deleting rows or columns from table.

- Avoid crash when InsetBibitem::updateCommand shows a dialog.

- Set cursor font after pasting to PassThru (e.g., ERT) inset (bug 12592).

- Do not ask about unapplied changes if dialog has been closed.

- Fix wrong position of conversion windows of the input method (bugs 11723,
  13054).

- Speed up mouse movement when there is no selection (part of bug
  13050).

- Fix incorrect scrolling when using outline to jump to a paragraph
  (bug 10425).

- Fix preview inset with XeTeX, and with RTL languages in general.

- Respect change tracking in dash conversion mechanism (bug 13062).

- The outliner option "Only output items" now works properly (bug 12981).

- Show values of cross-references in tooltips (bug 8856).

- Toolbars are now locked by default for new profiles (bug 11796).

- Allow "longest label" to be empty (bug 11934).

- Put new citation after selected item rather than at end of list
  (bug 12940).

- Fix overflow of appendix red frame in document-bottom grey area.


* INTERNALS

- Fix case where insets do not have proper information about current buffer
  (bug 12682).

- Handle deprecated Qt enum value.

- Fix initialization of an internal value.

- Fix "Unassigned buffer_" error with math references (bug 12947).

- Re-allow the use of quoted argument to PackageOptions layout tag.

- Fix crash when passing unknown value to textstyle-update


* ADVANCED FIND AND REPLACE

- Handle neg-spaces like normal space if searching without format.

- No paragraph indentation in search and replace windows (bug 11555).


* BUILD/INSTALLATION

- Cmake build: Handle deprecated cmake versions.


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Re: Colorbox destroys Index

[Herbert Voss]

Am 04.07.24 um 16:16 schrieb Andreas Plihal via lyx-users:
I am writing a KOMA book with an index. However, I have noticed that 
the index disappears exactly when only one of my numerous color boxes 
contains even a single keyword. I have made two MWEs: one without a 
color box and one with a color box. The PDF of the first one has an 
index, the second one does not.

Do you have any idea how I could avoid this error?


An index is in _both_ pdf documents

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Re: Some fields cannot be fully displayed

[Yu Jin]

Am So., 16. Juni 2024 um 17:34 Uhr schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

> Am Sonntag, dem 16.06.2024 um 13:49 +0200 schrieb Yu Jin:
> > I observed this on the Qt new "windows11" style, which unfortunately
> > seems to be default on Windows (at least on Windows 11). Try changing
> > to "fusion" style in the Preferences under user interface -> user
> > interface style.
>
> This seems to be an upstream bug with this style which is fixed in Qt
> 6.7.2 and 6.8.0ff:
>
>
> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-124150


Actually 6.7.2 didn't fix it at all, still seeing this.
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Re: warning "different LaTeX input encodings" in a single LyX file

[matan guedj]

On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 6:00 PM  wrote:

> Am Dienstag, dem 02.07.2024 um 16:25 +0300 schrieb matan guedj:
> > here are the files, one is in Hebrew, and I'm using a bind file
> > called cua which I'll link to just in case it's relevant
>
> Thanks, this was helpful. This is a small glitch which will be fixed
> (again, only in LyX 2.4.2).
>
> In the meantime, you can either ignore the error or, to get rid of it,
> uncheck "use non-TeX fonts" in the MacrosStandard.lyx file, then set
> the encoding to "Unicode (utf8)" rather than "Traditional (auto-
> selected)" (as advised in my first mail), then check use-non-tex fonts
> again.
>
> The problem here is that LyX checks for the encoding also in the
> XeTeX/LuaTeX case where it actually shouldn't (since these file are
> always utf8 in the output).
>
> HTH,
> Jürgen
>
>
I see, thanks for helping me out!
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Re: warning "different LaTeX input encodings" in a single LyX file

[jspitzm]

Am Dienstag, dem 02.07.2024 um 16:25 +0300 schrieb matan guedj:
> here are the files, one is in Hebrew, and I'm using a bind file
> called cua which I'll link to just in case it's relevant

Thanks, this was helpful. This is a small glitch which will be fixed
(again, only in LyX 2.4.2).

In the meantime, you can either ignore the error or, to get rid of it,
uncheck "use non-TeX fonts" in the MacrosStandard.lyx file, then set
the encoding to "Unicode (utf8)" rather than "Traditional (auto-
selected)" (as advised in my first mail), then check use-non-tex fonts
again.

The problem here is that LyX checks for the encoding also in the
XeTeX/LuaTeX case where it actually shouldn't (since these file are
always utf8 in the output).

HTH,
Jürgen

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Re: warning "different LaTeX input encodings" in a single LyX file

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 02/07/2024 à 12:00, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Am Montag, dem 01.07.2024 um 22:22 +0300 schrieb matan guedj:

I get this warning with a macros file I'm using on all my lyx
documents only one document and I have no idea why,  when I checked
with Notepad++ it looked like it was encoded with utf-8, I'm not sure
who the parent is referring to here as well.
I'm using the "insert->file->child document" on input option for the
macro file.
i don't know what other info I can add except that it's really odd
that it happens only on a single file, even though I use this
everywhere in the exact same way.


* Open the file MacrosStandard.lyx
* Open the Document Settings dialog
* Go to the "Language" section of the dialog
* In Encoding > Type, select "Unicode (utf8)" rather than "Traditional
(auto-selected)"


A word of explanation: all .lyx files are encoded in utf8. The encoding 
you can chose is the one of the generated LaTeX file. When using a child 
document, the master and the child should use the same encoding.


JMarc

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Re: warning "different LaTeX input encodings" in a single LyX file

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag, dem 01.07.2024 um 22:22 +0300 schrieb matan guedj:
> I get this warning with a macros file I'm using on all my lyx
> documents only one document and I have no idea why,  when I checked
> with Notepad++ it looked like it was encoded with utf-8, I'm not sure
> who the parent is referring to here as well.
> I'm using the "insert->file->child document" on input option for the
> macro file.
> i don't know what other info I can add except that it's really odd
> that it happens only on a single file, even though I use this
> everywhere in the exact same way.

* Open the file MacrosStandard.lyx
* Open the Document Settings dialog
* Go to the "Language" section of the dialog
* In Encoding > Type, select "Unicode (utf8)" rather than "Traditional
(auto-selected)"

Note, though, that if you have other files which include this document,
and these file have traditional encoding, you will now get a warning
with those to the opposite direction.

An alternative fix (which would avoid the latter) would be to set the
Encoding of your master file from "Unicode (utf8)" to "Traditional
(auto-selected)". Or if you want to have both options, store a copy of
the MacrosStandard.lyx file with utf8 encoding under a different name.

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Re: LyX Unapplied changes pop-up

[jspitzm]

Am Dienstag, dem 02.07.2024 um 11:42 +0300 schrieb matan guedj:
> first of all, excuse me for writing you this way and not through the
> mailing list, but I couldn't find your response in my emails at all,
> I found it out using the archive 

Maybe you aren't subscribed to the list? I only sent the response to
the list address, not your own (but I include both now so others can
chime in with ideas).

> and regarding what you've written here:
> I actually don't have any unapplied changes in the document settings,
> and the document settings window isn't even open

This is puzzling. The code that triggers this dialog is _in_ the
document settings dialog.

But I think I understand now that this can be accessed even if the
dialog is not open. I will push what I think is a fix, but as LyX 2.4.1
has already been built, this will make its debut only in LyX 2.4.2.

Meanwhile, if you can come up with a somewhat reliable recipe to
reproduce this behavior, this would be highly helpful (as I cannot
reproduce it myself).

Thanks,
Jürgen

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warning "different LaTeX input encodings" in a single LyX file

[matan guedj]

[image: image.png]
I get this warning with a macros file I'm using on all my lyx documents
only one document and I have no idea why,  when I checked with Notepad++ it
looked like it was encoded with utf-8, I'm not sure who the parent is
referring to here as well.
I'm using the "insert->file->child document" on input option for the macro
file.
i don't know what other info I can add except that it's really odd that it
happens only on a single file, even though I use this everywhere in the
exact same way.
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Re: Problems

[Eberhard W Lisse]

Go to the Download area in Chrome and approve the download.


On 28/06/2024 03:38, Carlos Knauer wrote:
> Goodnight.I'm trying to download LyX 2.4.0, but both Google Chrome
> and Microsoft Edge show that the LyX website is not secure and the
> download fails.How can I resolve this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Carlos Fernando Knauer
> 
> 


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Re: LyX with luatex and non-TeX fonts: Preview of math blown up

[Neal Becker]

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 11:25 PM Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 01:52:34PM GMT, Tobias Hilbricht wrote:
> > Dear developers,
> >
> > here, when using LyX with non-TeX fonts and output set to luatex,
> > preview of math (inline and display mode) is blown up (takes
> > unnecessary white space). When using XeTeX, preview works as expected,
> > that is, takes up the same space as in the compiled document.
> >
> > I attached a screenshot. The output pdf is not affected.
> >
> > To reproduce: Set up a LyX document with math and preview on and set
> > output preference to luatex (document > settings > output). Save the
> > document and open it again. In LyX, preview is blown up.
> >
> > This is independent of the non-TeX fonts used, I get it reproducibly
> > with Fira Math, Cambria Math, Libertinus Math and TeX Gyre Pagella
> > Math. When I set output to XeTeX, save and open again, LyX preview
> > takes up expected space.
> >
> > LyX 2.4.0~RC4
> >
> > lualatex --version
> > This is LuaHBTeX, Version 1.18.0 (TeX Live 2024)
> > Development id: 7611
> >
> > xelatex --version
> > XeTeX 3.141592653-2.6-0.96 (TeX Live 2024)
>
> Hi Tobias,
>
> Thanks for this report. I can't reproduce. Can you reproduce with the
> attached file? If not, could you please attach an example file?
>
> Scott
>

Are you talking about math preview?  This has been broken for me for some
time (before 2.4 and still there) and I just turned math preview off.  You
say "works with xelatex" and not with lualatex.  How are you switching
between the for math preview?
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Re: Unapplied changes pop-up

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, dem 28.06.2024 um 15:58 +0300 schrieb matan guedj:
> ever since I updated to 2.4 I get this pop-up when changing tabs in
> my documents (old files that I created before 2.4 and new ones as
> well) but I don't have any unsaved changes in the documents, 

But you have the document settings dialog open with unapplied changes,
right?

The purpose of the message is to make you aware if you switch documents
with this dialog open, any unapplied change you might have made in that
dialog will be lost.

> and there are always 2 of those pop-ups, 

This is a known bug which will be fixed for LyX 2.4.2.

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Unapplied changes pop-up

[matan guedj]

Hello,
ever since I updated to 2.4 I get this pop-up when changing tabs in my
documents (old files that I created before 2.4 and new ones as well)
[image: image.png]
but I don't have any unsaved changes in the documents, and there are always
2 of those pop-ups, when I click on the "switch back" twice it just brings
me to the previous tab, and saving again does not change anything, and if I
click twice on "Dismiss changes" then nothing happens.
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Re: LyX with luatex and non-TeX fonts: Preview of math blown up

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 01:52:34PM GMT, Tobias Hilbricht wrote:
> Dear developers,
> 
> here, when using LyX with non-TeX fonts and output set to luatex,
> preview of math (inline and display mode) is blown up (takes
> unnecessary white space). When using XeTeX, preview works as expected,
> that is, takes up the same space as in the compiled document.
> 
> I attached a screenshot. The output pdf is not affected.
> 
> To reproduce: Set up a LyX document with math and preview on and set
> output preference to luatex (document > settings > output). Save the
> document and open it again. In LyX, preview is blown up.
> 
> This is independent of the non-TeX fonts used, I get it reproducibly
> with Fira Math, Cambria Math, Libertinus Math and TeX Gyre Pagella
> Math. When I set output to XeTeX, save and open again, LyX preview
> takes up expected space.
> 
> LyX 2.4.0~RC4
> 
> lualatex --version
> This is LuaHBTeX, Version 1.18.0 (TeX Live 2024)
> Development id: 7611
> 
> xelatex --version
> XeTeX 3.141592653-2.6-0.96 (TeX Live 2024)

Hi Tobias,

Thanks for this report. I can't reproduce. Can you reproduce with the
attached file? If not, could you please attach an example file?

Scott


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Problems

[Carlos Knauer]

Goodnight. I'm trying to download LyX 2.4.0, but both Google Chrome and
Microsoft Edge show that the LyX website is not secure and the download
fails. How can I resolve this?

Thanks,

Carlos Fernando Knauer
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Re: preview environment doesn't render in the document in 2.4.0?

[matan guedj]

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 8:09 PM Udicoudco  wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 7:25 PM Udicoudco  wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 7:14 PM matan guedj 
> wrote:
> > > ohhh, i understand you now, the way i wrote the code was creating a
> float inside the preview because of the algorithmic/algorithm package,
> > > might you know of a package that does the same thing (writing
> code/pseudo code) but without creating a float inside?  so I could use it
> simply with the preview
>
> Reading the documentation, it seems that the
> algorithm package use the float package
> internally, and so support the H option
> which should enable the use of that environment inside
> boxes. See the attached file.
>
> Udi
>

oh great! thats exactly what i was looking for, thank you very much!
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Re: preview environment doesn't render in the document in 2.4.0?

[Udicoudco]

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 7:25 PM Udicoudco  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 7:14 PM matan guedj  wrote:
> > ohhh, i understand you now, the way i wrote the code was creating a float 
> > inside the preview because of the algorithmic/algorithm package,
> > might you know of a package that does the same thing (writing code/pseudo 
> > code) but without creating a float inside?  so I could use it simply with 
> > the preview

Reading the documentation, it seems that the
algorithm package use the float package
internally, and so support the H option
which should enable the use of that environment inside
boxes. See the attached file.

Udi


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