okular dvi viewer failed in lyx
Hi All I just installed Lyx 1.6.1 and tested out the dvi viewer on intro.lyx. The default dvi viewer, okular, came up and then crashed. A Fatal Error Occurred The application Okular (okular) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). Lyx stayed open. OS: Ubuntu 8.10 default dvi viewer: okular this happens with kdvi as well. okular and kdvi works with other dvi I have, but not the dvi lyx makes. also when changing the dvi viewer preference in Tools - Preferences - file formats - DVI from xdg-open to xdiv, xdvi opens but presents a blank page. If the window size of xdvi is re-sized to a fraction smaller, the text appears. any help appreciated cheers Russell
okular dvi viewer failed in lyx
Hi All I just installed Lyx 1.6.1 and tested out the dvi viewer on intro.lyx. The default dvi viewer, okular, came up and then crashed. A Fatal Error Occurred The application Okular (okular) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). Lyx stayed open. OS: Ubuntu 8.10 default dvi viewer: okular this happens with kdvi as well. okular and kdvi works with other dvi I have, but not the dvi lyx makes. also when changing the dvi viewer preference in Tools - Preferences - file formats - DVI from xdg-open to xdiv, xdvi opens but presents a blank page. If the window size of xdvi is re-sized to a fraction smaller, the text appears. any help appreciated cheers Russell
okular dvi viewer failed in lyx
Hi All I just installed Lyx 1.6.1 and tested out the dvi viewer on intro.lyx. The default dvi viewer, okular, came up and then crashed. A Fatal Error Occurred The application Okular (okular) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). Lyx stayed open. OS: Ubuntu 8.10 default dvi viewer: okular this happens with kdvi as well. okular and kdvi works with other dvi I have, but not the dvi lyx makes. also when changing the dvi viewer preference in Tools -> Preferences -> file formats -> DVI from xdg-open to xdiv, xdvi opens but presents a blank page. If the window size of xdvi is re-sized to a fraction smaller, the text appears. any help appreciated cheers Russell
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) is released
On Sat, 19 May 2007 14:39:58 +1000 Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2007 15:27:28 +0100 José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Public release of LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) === snip It compiled easily in Ubuntu Dapper under checkinstall. It now has even *more* LyX goodness. Thanks to all you devs, I miss the group photo on the splash screen! Here is the checkinstall package: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.5.0beta3-1_i386.deb It does not check for dependencies, use at your own risk. cheers Russell This package also works in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10) - R -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
copying spreadsheet data into Lyx
Hi How can spreadsheet data be copying into LyX quickly? I can't get Open Office or Gnumeric to do this easily. Surely there must be a better way than one cell at a time? cheers Russell
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) is released
On Sat, 19 May 2007 14:39:58 +1000 Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2007 15:27:28 +0100 José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Public release of LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) === snip It compiled easily in Ubuntu Dapper under checkinstall. It now has even *more* LyX goodness. Thanks to all you devs, I miss the group photo on the splash screen! Here is the checkinstall package: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.5.0beta3-1_i386.deb It does not check for dependencies, use at your own risk. cheers Russell This package also works in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10) - R -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
copying spreadsheet data into Lyx
Hi How can spreadsheet data be copying into LyX quickly? I can't get Open Office or Gnumeric to do this easily. Surely there must be a better way than one cell at a time? cheers Russell
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) is released
On Sat, 19 May 2007 14:39:58 +1000 Russell Davie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2007 15:27:28 +0100 > José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Public release of LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) > > === > > snip > > It compiled easily in Ubuntu Dapper under checkinstall. It now has even > *more* LyX goodness. > > Thanks to all you devs, I miss the group photo on the splash screen! > > Here is the checkinstall package: > http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.5.0beta3-1_i386.deb > It does not check for dependencies, use at your own risk. > > cheers > > Russell > This package also works in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10) - R -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
copying spreadsheet data into Lyx
Hi How can spreadsheet data be copying into LyX quickly? I can't get Open Office or Gnumeric to do this easily. Surely there must be a better way than one cell at a time? cheers Russell
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) is released
On Fri, 18 May 2007 15:27:28 +0100 José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Public release of LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) === snip It compiled easily in Ubuntu Dapper under checkinstall. It now has even *more* LyX goodness. Thanks to all you devs, I miss the group photo on the splash screen! Here is the checkinstall package: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.5.0beta3-1_i386.deb It does not check for dependencies, use at your own risk. cheers Russell
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) is released
On Fri, 18 May 2007 15:27:28 +0100 José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Public release of LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) === snip It compiled easily in Ubuntu Dapper under checkinstall. It now has even *more* LyX goodness. Thanks to all you devs, I miss the group photo on the splash screen! Here is the checkinstall package: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.5.0beta3-1_i386.deb It does not check for dependencies, use at your own risk. cheers Russell
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) is released
On Fri, 18 May 2007 15:27:28 +0100 José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Public release of LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3) > === snip It compiled easily in Ubuntu Dapper under checkinstall. It now has even *more* LyX goodness. Thanks to all you devs, I miss the group photo on the splash screen! Here is the checkinstall package: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.5.0beta3-1_i386.deb It does not check for dependencies, use at your own risk. cheers Russell
Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book
On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:24:34 +0200 Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm really amazed of, is the quantity of technical and engineering congresses that ask the authors to submit their papers is Word format and don't have (and don't support) LaTeX styles. I'm doing some evangelism with my friends that are working on their PhD's to switch to LyX/LaTeX. They instantly love the typesetting, the styles and the formula typing. The problem is not only congresses their making articles for, but their own tutors don't work and never have worked with LaTeX. That by itself, stop them in their effort. If at least LyX/LaTeX generated PDF's could be commented by default (or using a switch), their switch would be smoother. I proof read and commented a friend's thesis that they wrote in latex and which was sent to me as pdf or ps. This used flpsed which places a comment into the a ps or pdf. Only one series of comments can be done. Later I was able to check to comments using psdiff. It all worked perfectly. There was a very tight time schedule and I was able to easily submit the proofs to the author who went to submit the final version on time. flpsed: http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/flpsed.html psdiff: http://www.intermemory.org/pny/software/psdiff/main.html I used Linux and the flsped is available as a Ubuntu deb package. Annotating pdf? no excuses now! cheers Russell On 5/9/07, David L. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Litt wrote: Big publishers like O'Reilly (or in the case of my Samba Unleashed, Sams) take complete control of the book's layout. Working with a mainstream publisher is the ultimate WYSIWYM experience -- you as the author are responsible only for content. Your publisher gives you a list of styles you may (and must) use and a stylesheet telling how and when to use them. You do that, and the publisher takes care of the rest. If the publisher were to accept a LyX document (or LaTeX), they'd either need to accept the author's layout (bad idea when you publish a uniform series like Unleashed or Nutshell), or they'd need to translate back into MS Word with appropriate styles. Not at all. Some publishers (granted, all I know about are math journals, which form a biased and tiny subset of publishers) simply require you to use their specific TeX style files --- which is easy to do in TeX, and not so bad in LyX either, in fact, some of the Springer styles (kluwer) are already included in LyX. No reason to translate into Word. Also, going from one TeX style to another is far easier than trying to do the same thing in Word. Another reason they use MS Word is because MS Word has facilities to track changes, so the chapter documents that keep getting sent back and forth contain a complete history of queries, reponses and changes. This is also easy to do in LyX/TeX, but it is also dangerous to keep such information in a document by default. It can be very embarrassing, say, in a job offer letter, to be able to see what the original salary offer was, before upper management cut it by 25%. This may be less of a problem in this case, but still unwanted information can be transmitted. Of course, one could ask why not make LyX the official wordprocessor instead of MS Word, and supply a LyX layout instead of a MS Word style template. The answer is simply that it's very hard to find willing and qualified authors for the amount mainstream publishers are willing to pay, and it would be far easier to get the few LyX/LaTeX users to switch to MS Word than to get the multitudes of MS Word users to switch to LyX, which many haven't heard of, don't have, and don't know how to install. This should be less of a concern for the likes of O'Reilly, who really do support open source, the antithesis of MS practice. -- David L. Johnson Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand we like to call it something you can't understand, or indeed even pronounce. -- Douglas Adams -- - Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book
On Thu, 10 May 2007 15:10:12 +0200 Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad thing most of us work in Windows. Hope someday PDF's can be commented by default, or at least that you don't need Acrobat Professional to make them able for comments. Virtualize! no need to get Adobe, just run a flavour of *nix in your *doz box and enjoy annotating pdf via vmware Run multiple operating systems on the same PC – with 19 flavors of Windows and 26 flavors of Linux/UNIX, Workstation has the broadest OS selection to choose from http://info.vmware.com/content/GLP_VMwareWkstn?urlcode=Google_Products_Workstationgclid=CPX_w-zpg4wCFQurhgod-D39wQ weekends coming uphave fun! - R On 5/10/07, Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:24:34 +0200 Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm really amazed of, is the quantity of technical and engineering congresses that ask the authors to submit their papers is Word format and don't have (and don't support) LaTeX styles. I'm doing some evangelism with my friends that are working on their PhD's to switch to LyX/LaTeX. They instantly love the typesetting, the styles and the formula typing. The problem is not only congresses their making articles for, but their own tutors don't work and never have worked with LaTeX. That by itself, stop them in their effort. If at least LyX/LaTeX generated PDF's could be commented by default (or using a switch), their switch would be smoother. I proof read and commented a friend's thesis that they wrote in latex and which was sent to me as pdf or ps. This used flpsed which places a comment into the a ps or pdf. Only one series of comments can be done. Later I was able to check to comments using psdiff. It all worked perfectly. There was a very tight time schedule and I was able to easily submit the proofs to the author who went to submit the final version on time. flpsed: http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/flpsed.html psdiff: http://www.intermemory.org/pny/software/psdiff/main.html I used Linux and the flsped is available as a Ubuntu deb package. Annotating pdf? no excuses now! cheers Russell On 5/9/07, David L. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Litt wrote: Big publishers like O'Reilly (or in the case of my Samba Unleashed, Sams) take complete control of the book's layout. Working with a mainstream publisher is the ultimate WYSIWYM experience -- you as the author are responsible only for content. Your publisher gives you a list of styles you may (and must) use and a stylesheet telling how and when to use them. You do that, and the publisher takes care of the rest. If the publisher were to accept a LyX document (or LaTeX), they'd either need to accept the author's layout (bad idea when you publish a uniform series like Unleashed or Nutshell), or they'd need to translate back into MS Word with appropriate styles. Not at all. Some publishers (granted, all I know about are math journals, which form a biased and tiny subset of publishers) simply require you to use their specific TeX style files --- which is easy to do in TeX, and not so bad in LyX either, in fact, some of the Springer styles (kluwer) are already included in LyX. No reason to translate into Word. Also, going from one TeX style to another is far easier than trying to do the same thing in Word. Another reason they use MS Word is because MS Word has facilities to track changes, so the chapter documents that keep getting sent back and forth contain a complete history of queries, reponses and changes. This is also easy to do in LyX/TeX, but it is also dangerous to keep such information in a document by default. It can be very embarrassing, say, in a job offer letter, to be able to see what the original salary offer was, before upper management cut it by 25%. This may be less of a problem in this case, but still unwanted information can be transmitted. Of course, one could ask why not make LyX the official wordprocessor instead of MS Word, and supply a LyX layout instead of a MS Word style template. The answer is simply that it's very hard to find willing and qualified authors for the amount mainstream publishers are willing to pay, and it would be far easier to get the few LyX/LaTeX users to switch to MS Word than to get the multitudes of MS Word users to switch to LyX, which many haven't heard of, don't have, and don't know how to install. This should be less of a concern for the likes of O'Reilly, who really do support open source, the antithesis of MS practice. -- David L. Johnson Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand
Re: Lyx in ubuntu
On Wed, 9 May 2007 09:17:01 +0100 Nick Hopton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a recent message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. [...] Easy: apt-get install lyx See man page (man apt-get). The problem is that if you do this you'll only get Lyx 1.4.4, at present, not Version 1.5. Perhaps that ought to be 'sudo apt-get install lyx', by the way g. Eh... 1.5 hasn't been released yet... [...] Yes, sorry, I've been using the 1.5 beta releases on XP. One other problem is (if I remember rightly) that on the Ubuntu side if you use 'apt-get' or the Synaptic Package Manager to install LyX it also installs, without the option, a load of other stuff that you don't necessarily want, like TeTeX. Some people might prefer to work with TeXlive, for example. AFAIK, TeteX is the how the LaTeX backend is managed in Linux. Without it, its impossible to do any LaTeX. After using LaTeX in Linux for several years and several *nix flavours, it seems to be mandatory to install TeTeX to run LaTeX and thus LyX. Please correct me if this is wrong. TeTex seems to be an extra ~80mb to download and installs and runs transparently in the usually easy Ubuntu manner. Some have uploaded LyX deb packages for Ubuntu 6.06, I compiled from source. Instructions and resulting deb is here: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/index.html - R This might be heresy, but to be honest I much prefer the way that LyX installs and works under XP. Regards, Nick. -- Nick Hopton and Anne Hopton Caversham, Reading, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book
On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:24:34 +0200 Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm really amazed of, is the quantity of technical and engineering congresses that ask the authors to submit their papers is Word format and don't have (and don't support) LaTeX styles. I'm doing some evangelism with my friends that are working on their PhD's to switch to LyX/LaTeX. They instantly love the typesetting, the styles and the formula typing. The problem is not only congresses their making articles for, but their own tutors don't work and never have worked with LaTeX. That by itself, stop them in their effort. If at least LyX/LaTeX generated PDF's could be commented by default (or using a switch), their switch would be smoother. I proof read and commented a friend's thesis that they wrote in latex and which was sent to me as pdf or ps. This used flpsed which places a comment into the a ps or pdf. Only one series of comments can be done. Later I was able to check to comments using psdiff. It all worked perfectly. There was a very tight time schedule and I was able to easily submit the proofs to the author who went to submit the final version on time. flpsed: http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/flpsed.html psdiff: http://www.intermemory.org/pny/software/psdiff/main.html I used Linux and the flsped is available as a Ubuntu deb package. Annotating pdf? no excuses now! cheers Russell On 5/9/07, David L. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Litt wrote: Big publishers like O'Reilly (or in the case of my Samba Unleashed, Sams) take complete control of the book's layout. Working with a mainstream publisher is the ultimate WYSIWYM experience -- you as the author are responsible only for content. Your publisher gives you a list of styles you may (and must) use and a stylesheet telling how and when to use them. You do that, and the publisher takes care of the rest. If the publisher were to accept a LyX document (or LaTeX), they'd either need to accept the author's layout (bad idea when you publish a uniform series like Unleashed or Nutshell), or they'd need to translate back into MS Word with appropriate styles. Not at all. Some publishers (granted, all I know about are math journals, which form a biased and tiny subset of publishers) simply require you to use their specific TeX style files --- which is easy to do in TeX, and not so bad in LyX either, in fact, some of the Springer styles (kluwer) are already included in LyX. No reason to translate into Word. Also, going from one TeX style to another is far easier than trying to do the same thing in Word. Another reason they use MS Word is because MS Word has facilities to track changes, so the chapter documents that keep getting sent back and forth contain a complete history of queries, reponses and changes. This is also easy to do in LyX/TeX, but it is also dangerous to keep such information in a document by default. It can be very embarrassing, say, in a job offer letter, to be able to see what the original salary offer was, before upper management cut it by 25%. This may be less of a problem in this case, but still unwanted information can be transmitted. Of course, one could ask why not make LyX the official wordprocessor instead of MS Word, and supply a LyX layout instead of a MS Word style template. The answer is simply that it's very hard to find willing and qualified authors for the amount mainstream publishers are willing to pay, and it would be far easier to get the few LyX/LaTeX users to switch to MS Word than to get the multitudes of MS Word users to switch to LyX, which many haven't heard of, don't have, and don't know how to install. This should be less of a concern for the likes of O'Reilly, who really do support open source, the antithesis of MS practice. -- David L. Johnson Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand we like to call it something you can't understand, or indeed even pronounce. -- Douglas Adams -- - Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book
On Thu, 10 May 2007 15:10:12 +0200 Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad thing most of us work in Windows. Hope someday PDF's can be commented by default, or at least that you don't need Acrobat Professional to make them able for comments. Virtualize! no need to get Adobe, just run a flavour of *nix in your *doz box and enjoy annotating pdf via vmware Run multiple operating systems on the same PC – with 19 flavors of Windows and 26 flavors of Linux/UNIX, Workstation has the broadest OS selection to choose from http://info.vmware.com/content/GLP_VMwareWkstn?urlcode=Google_Products_Workstationgclid=CPX_w-zpg4wCFQurhgod-D39wQ weekends coming uphave fun! - R On 5/10/07, Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:24:34 +0200 Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm really amazed of, is the quantity of technical and engineering congresses that ask the authors to submit their papers is Word format and don't have (and don't support) LaTeX styles. I'm doing some evangelism with my friends that are working on their PhD's to switch to LyX/LaTeX. They instantly love the typesetting, the styles and the formula typing. The problem is not only congresses their making articles for, but their own tutors don't work and never have worked with LaTeX. That by itself, stop them in their effort. If at least LyX/LaTeX generated PDF's could be commented by default (or using a switch), their switch would be smoother. I proof read and commented a friend's thesis that they wrote in latex and which was sent to me as pdf or ps. This used flpsed which places a comment into the a ps or pdf. Only one series of comments can be done. Later I was able to check to comments using psdiff. It all worked perfectly. There was a very tight time schedule and I was able to easily submit the proofs to the author who went to submit the final version on time. flpsed: http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/flpsed.html psdiff: http://www.intermemory.org/pny/software/psdiff/main.html I used Linux and the flsped is available as a Ubuntu deb package. Annotating pdf? no excuses now! cheers Russell On 5/9/07, David L. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Litt wrote: Big publishers like O'Reilly (or in the case of my Samba Unleashed, Sams) take complete control of the book's layout. Working with a mainstream publisher is the ultimate WYSIWYM experience -- you as the author are responsible only for content. Your publisher gives you a list of styles you may (and must) use and a stylesheet telling how and when to use them. You do that, and the publisher takes care of the rest. If the publisher were to accept a LyX document (or LaTeX), they'd either need to accept the author's layout (bad idea when you publish a uniform series like Unleashed or Nutshell), or they'd need to translate back into MS Word with appropriate styles. Not at all. Some publishers (granted, all I know about are math journals, which form a biased and tiny subset of publishers) simply require you to use their specific TeX style files --- which is easy to do in TeX, and not so bad in LyX either, in fact, some of the Springer styles (kluwer) are already included in LyX. No reason to translate into Word. Also, going from one TeX style to another is far easier than trying to do the same thing in Word. Another reason they use MS Word is because MS Word has facilities to track changes, so the chapter documents that keep getting sent back and forth contain a complete history of queries, reponses and changes. This is also easy to do in LyX/TeX, but it is also dangerous to keep such information in a document by default. It can be very embarrassing, say, in a job offer letter, to be able to see what the original salary offer was, before upper management cut it by 25%. This may be less of a problem in this case, but still unwanted information can be transmitted. Of course, one could ask why not make LyX the official wordprocessor instead of MS Word, and supply a LyX layout instead of a MS Word style template. The answer is simply that it's very hard to find willing and qualified authors for the amount mainstream publishers are willing to pay, and it would be far easier to get the few LyX/LaTeX users to switch to MS Word than to get the multitudes of MS Word users to switch to LyX, which many haven't heard of, don't have, and don't know how to install. This should be less of a concern for the likes of O'Reilly, who really do support open source, the antithesis of MS practice. -- David L. Johnson Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand
Re: Lyx in ubuntu
On Wed, 9 May 2007 09:17:01 +0100 Nick Hopton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a recent message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. [...] Easy: apt-get install lyx See man page (man apt-get). The problem is that if you do this you'll only get Lyx 1.4.4, at present, not Version 1.5. Perhaps that ought to be 'sudo apt-get install lyx', by the way g. Eh... 1.5 hasn't been released yet... [...] Yes, sorry, I've been using the 1.5 beta releases on XP. One other problem is (if I remember rightly) that on the Ubuntu side if you use 'apt-get' or the Synaptic Package Manager to install LyX it also installs, without the option, a load of other stuff that you don't necessarily want, like TeTeX. Some people might prefer to work with TeXlive, for example. AFAIK, TeteX is the how the LaTeX backend is managed in Linux. Without it, its impossible to do any LaTeX. After using LaTeX in Linux for several years and several *nix flavours, it seems to be mandatory to install TeTeX to run LaTeX and thus LyX. Please correct me if this is wrong. TeTex seems to be an extra ~80mb to download and installs and runs transparently in the usually easy Ubuntu manner. Some have uploaded LyX deb packages for Ubuntu 6.06, I compiled from source. Instructions and resulting deb is here: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/index.html - R This might be heresy, but to be honest I much prefer the way that LyX installs and works under XP. Regards, Nick. -- Nick Hopton and Anne Hopton Caversham, Reading, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book
On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:24:34 +0200 "Julio Rojas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I'm really amazed of, is the quantity of technical and > engineering congresses that "ask" the authors to submit their papers > is Word format and don't have (and don't support) LaTeX styles. > > I'm doing some evangelism with my friends that are working on their > PhD's to switch to LyX/LaTeX. They instantly love the typesetting, the > styles and the formula typing. The problem is not only congresses > their making articles for, but their own tutors don't work and never > have worked with LaTeX. That by itself, stop them in their effort. If > at least LyX/LaTeX generated PDF's could be commented by default (or > using a switch), their switch would be smoother. I proof read and commented a friend's thesis that they wrote in latex and which was sent to me as pdf or ps. This used flpsed which places a comment into the a ps or pdf. Only one series of comments can be done. Later I was able to check to comments using psdiff. It all worked perfectly. There was a very tight time schedule and I was able to easily submit the proofs to the author who went to submit the final version on time. flpsed: http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/flpsed.html psdiff: http://www.intermemory.org/pny/software/psdiff/main.html I used Linux and the flsped is available as a Ubuntu deb package. Annotating pdf? no excuses now! cheers Russell > > On 5/9/07, David L. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > Big publishers like O'Reilly (or in the case of my Samba Unleashed, Sams) > > > take > > > complete control of the book's layout. Working with a mainstream > > > publisher is > > > the ultimate WYSIWYM experience -- you as the author are responsible only > > > for > > > content. Your publisher gives you a list of styles you may (and must) use > > > and > > > a stylesheet telling how and when to use them. You do that, and the > > > publisher > > > takes care of the rest. > > > > > > If the publisher were to accept a LyX document (or LaTeX), they'd either > > > need > > > to accept the author's layout (bad idea when you publish a uniform series > > > like Unleashed or Nutshell), or they'd need to translate back into MS Word > > > with appropriate styles. > > > > Not at all. Some publishers (granted, all I know about are math > > journals, which form a biased and tiny subset of publishers) simply > > require you to use their specific TeX style files --- which is easy to > > do in TeX, and not so bad in LyX either, in fact, some of the Springer > > styles (kluwer) are already included in LyX. No reason to translate > > into Word. Also, going from one TeX style to another is far easier than > > trying to do the same thing in Word. > > > > > > Another reason they use MS Word is because MS Word has facilities to track > > > changes, so the chapter documents that keep getting sent back and forth > > > contain a complete history of queries, reponses and changes. > > > > This is also easy to do in LyX/TeX, but it is also dangerous to keep > > such information in a document by default. It can be very embarrassing, > > say, in a job offer letter, to be able to see what the original salary > > offer was, before upper management cut it by 25%. This may be less of a > > problem in this case, but still unwanted information can be transmitted. > > > > > > Of course, one could ask "why not make LyX the official "wordprocessor" > > > instead of MS Word, and supply a LyX layout instead of a MS Word style > > > template. The answer is simply that it's very hard to find willing and > > > qualified authors for the amount mainstream publishers are willing to pay, > > > and it would be far easier to get the few LyX/LaTeX users to switch to MS > > > Word than to get the multitudes of MS Word users to switch to LyX, which > > > many > > > haven't heard of, don't have, and don't know how to install. > > > > This should be less of a concern for the likes of O'Reilly, who really > > do support open source, the antithesis of MS practice. > > > > -- > > > > David L. Johnson > > > > Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand > > we like to call it something you can't understand, > > or indeed even pronounce. -- Douglas Adams > > > > > -- > - > Julio Rojas > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book
On Thu, 10 May 2007 15:10:12 +0200 "Julio Rojas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bad thing most of us work in Windows. Hope someday PDF's can be > commented by default, or at least that you don't need Acrobat > Professional to make them able for comments. Virtualize! no need to get Adobe, just run a flavour of *nix in your *doz box and enjoy annotating pdf via vmware "Run multiple operating systems on the same PC – with 19 flavors of Windows and 26 flavors of Linux/UNIX, Workstation has the broadest OS selection to choose from" http://info.vmware.com/content/GLP_VMwareWkstn?urlcode=Google_Products_Workstation=CPX_w-zpg4wCFQurhgod-D39wQ weekends coming up....have fun! - R > > On 5/10/07, Russell Davie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:24:34 +0200 > > "Julio Rojas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > What I'm really amazed of, is the quantity of technical and > > > engineering congresses that "ask" the authors to submit their papers > > > is Word format and don't have (and don't support) LaTeX styles. > > > > > > I'm doing some evangelism with my friends that are working on their > > > PhD's to switch to LyX/LaTeX. They instantly love the typesetting, the > > > styles and the formula typing. The problem is not only congresses > > > their making articles for, but their own tutors don't work and never > > > have worked with LaTeX. That by itself, stop them in their effort. If > > > at least LyX/LaTeX generated PDF's could be commented by default (or > > > using a switch), their switch would be smoother. > > > > I proof read and commented a friend's thesis that they wrote in latex and > > which was sent to me as pdf or ps. > > This used flpsed which places a comment into the a ps or pdf. Only > > one series of comments can be done. > > Later I was able to check to comments using psdiff. > > It all worked perfectly. There was a very tight time schedule and I was > > able to easily submit the proofs to the author who went to submit the > > final version on time. > > > > flpsed: http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/flpsed.html > > psdiff: http://www.intermemory.org/pny/software/psdiff/main.html > > I used Linux and the flsped is available as a Ubuntu deb package. > > > > Annotating pdf? no excuses now! > > > > cheers > > > > Russell > > > > > > > > On 5/9/07, David L. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > > > > Big publishers like O'Reilly (or in the case of my Samba Unleashed, > > > > > Sams) take > > > > > complete control of the book's layout. Working with a mainstream > > > > > publisher is > > > > > the ultimate WYSIWYM experience -- you as the author are responsible > > > > > only for > > > > > content. Your publisher gives you a list of styles you may (and must) > > > > > use and > > > > > a stylesheet telling how and when to use them. You do that, and the > > > > > publisher > > > > > takes care of the rest. > > > > > > > > > > If the publisher were to accept a LyX document (or LaTeX), they'd > > > > > either need > > > > > to accept the author's layout (bad idea when you publish a uniform > > > > > series > > > > > like Unleashed or Nutshell), or they'd need to translate back into MS > > > > > Word > > > > > with appropriate styles. > > > > > > > > Not at all. Some publishers (granted, all I know about are math > > > > journals, which form a biased and tiny subset of publishers) simply > > > > require you to use their specific TeX style files --- which is easy to > > > > do in TeX, and not so bad in LyX either, in fact, some of the Springer > > > > styles (kluwer) are already included in LyX. No reason to translate > > > > into Word. Also, going from one TeX style to another is far easier than > > > > trying to do the same thing in Word. > > > > > > > > > > Another reason they use MS Word is because MS Word has facilities to > > > > > track > > > > > changes, so the chapter documents that keep getting sent back and > > > > > forth > > > > > contain a complete history of queries, reponses and changes. > > > > > > > > This is also easy to do in LyX/TeX, but it is also dangerous t
Re: Lyx in ubuntu
On Wed, 9 May 2007 09:17:01 +0100 Nick Hopton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a recent message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. > > [...] > >>> Easy: apt-get install lyx > >>> See man page (man apt-get). > > >> The problem is that if you do this you'll only get Lyx 1.4.4, at > >>present, not Version 1.5. Perhaps that ought to be 'sudo apt-get > >>install lyx', by the way . > > >Eh... 1.5 hasn't been released yet... > [...] > > Yes, sorry, I've been using the 1.5 beta releases on XP. One other > problem is (if I remember rightly) that on the Ubuntu side if you use > 'apt-get' or the Synaptic Package Manager to install LyX it also > installs, without the option, a load of other stuff that you don't > necessarily want, like TeTeX. Some people might prefer to work with > TeXlive, for example. AFAIK, TeteX is the how the LaTeX backend is managed in Linux. Without it, its impossible to do any LaTeX. After using LaTeX in Linux for several years and several *nix flavours, it seems to be mandatory to install TeTeX to run LaTeX and thus LyX. Please correct me if this is wrong. TeTex seems to be an extra ~80mb to download and installs and runs transparently in the usually easy Ubuntu manner. Some have uploaded LyX deb packages for Ubuntu 6.06, I compiled from source. Instructions and resulting deb is here: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/index.html - R > > This might be heresy, but to be honest I much prefer the way that LyX > installs and works under XP. > > Regards, > Nick. > > -- > Nick Hopton and Anne Hopton > Caversham, Reading, England > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
Re: pushing bibtex references crashes lyx 1.5.0beta1-1
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:31:43 +0200 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag, 31. März 2007 06:45 schrieb Russell Davie: Hi Pushing bibtex references to lyx 1.5.0beta1 makes lyx completely crash. This has no warning dialog popup and no rescue file saved, lyx just dies. This is using Jabref and Pybligrapher. LyX was compiled using this config: $ ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 --prefix=/usr/local version of Pybliographer: pybliographer 1.2.6.2-1 version of Jabref: jabref 2.1-3 the OS: Linux 2.6.15-28-386 Ubuntu/dapper Any assistance on how this can be fixed is appreciated! Can you please report this at http://bugzilla.lyx.org? You can create some debug output with lyx- dbg action,lyxserver 2e.log Please attach the e.log file also to the report. Georg OK, this has been submitted http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3401 - Russell -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
Re: pushing bibtex references crashes lyx 1.5.0beta1-1
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:31:43 +0200 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag, 31. März 2007 06:45 schrieb Russell Davie: Hi Pushing bibtex references to lyx 1.5.0beta1 makes lyx completely crash. This has no warning dialog popup and no rescue file saved, lyx just dies. This is using Jabref and Pybligrapher. LyX was compiled using this config: $ ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 --prefix=/usr/local version of Pybliographer: pybliographer 1.2.6.2-1 version of Jabref: jabref 2.1-3 the OS: Linux 2.6.15-28-386 Ubuntu/dapper Any assistance on how this can be fixed is appreciated! Can you please report this at http://bugzilla.lyx.org? You can create some debug output with lyx- dbg action,lyxserver 2e.log Please attach the e.log file also to the report. Georg OK, this has been submitted http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3401 - Russell -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
Re: pushing bibtex references crashes lyx 1.5.0beta1-1
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:31:43 +0200 Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Samstag, 31. März 2007 06:45 schrieb Russell Davie: > > Hi > > > > Pushing bibtex references to lyx 1.5.0beta1 makes lyx completely crash. > > This has no warning dialog popup and no rescue file saved, lyx just dies. > This is using Jabref and > > Pybligrapher. > > > > LyX was compiled using this config: > > $ ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 > > --prefix=/usr/local > > > > version of Pybliographer: > > pybliographer 1.2.6.2-1 > > > > version of Jabref: > > jabref 2.1-3 > > > > the OS: > > Linux 2.6.15-28-386 Ubuntu/dapper > > > > Any assistance on how this can be fixed is appreciated! > > Can you please report this at http://bugzilla.lyx.org? You can create some > debug output with > > lyx- dbg action,lyxserver 2>e.log > > Please attach the e.log file also to the report. > > > Georg OK, this has been submitted http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3401 - Russell -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
pushing bibtex references crashes lyx 1.5.0beta1-1
Hi Pushing bibtex references to lyx 1.5.0beta1 makes lyx completely crash. This has no warning dialog popup and no rescue file saved, lyx just dies. This is using Jabref and Pybligrapher. LyX was compiled using this config: $ ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 --prefix=/usr/local version of Pybliographer: pybliographer 1.2.6.2-1 version of Jabref: jabref 2.1-3 the OS: Linux 2.6.15-28-386 Ubuntu/dapper Any assistance on how this can be fixed is appreciated! TIA Russell -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
pushing bibtex references crashes lyx 1.5.0beta1-1
Hi Pushing bibtex references to lyx 1.5.0beta1 makes lyx completely crash. This has no warning dialog popup and no rescue file saved, lyx just dies. This is using Jabref and Pybligrapher. LyX was compiled using this config: $ ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 --prefix=/usr/local version of Pybliographer: pybliographer 1.2.6.2-1 version of Jabref: jabref 2.1-3 the OS: Linux 2.6.15-28-386 Ubuntu/dapper Any assistance on how this can be fixed is appreciated! TIA Russell -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
pushing bibtex references crashes lyx 1.5.0beta1-1
Hi Pushing bibtex references to lyx 1.5.0beta1 makes lyx completely crash. This has no warning dialog popup and no rescue file saved, lyx just dies. This is using Jabref and Pybligrapher. LyX was compiled using this config: $ ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 --prefix=/usr/local version of Pybliographer: pybliographer 1.2.6.2-1 version of Jabref: jabref 2.1-3 the OS: Linux 2.6.15-28-386 Ubuntu/dapper Any assistance on how this can be fixed is appreciated! TIA Russell -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 1) is released
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:25:30 +0100 Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm working on an IBM Lenovo ThinkPad T60 with gentoo-Linux + KDE-3.5.6 + tetex-3.0_p1-r3 I'm still using LyX-1.3.7 because of the problems I have with some special characters like å, ç, accented Letters etc. in LyX-1.4.x. Some Questions: * Can I install LyX-1.5.0beta1 in parallel to LyX-1.3.7? (generating manually from the sources probably) this might do it: ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 --prefix=/usr/local --with-version-suffix=1.5.0b1 Read the INSTALL to get details on how to configure the flags for your purposes. Or you may wish to do this in a chroot to be sure it behaves! * Is there a converter from the LyX file format 1.3.7 to 1.5.0. (Looking at them with vi there are some obvious differences...) not sure * Is Qt4 needed for LyX-1.5.0? I believe so. When run, configure looked for this, and said not found. And when I installed qt4, it went perfectly. HTH - R
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 1) is released
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:25:30 +0100 Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm working on an IBM Lenovo ThinkPad T60 with gentoo-Linux + KDE-3.5.6 + tetex-3.0_p1-r3 I'm still using LyX-1.3.7 because of the problems I have with some special characters like å, ç, accented Letters etc. in LyX-1.4.x. Some Questions: * Can I install LyX-1.5.0beta1 in parallel to LyX-1.3.7? (generating manually from the sources probably) this might do it: ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 --prefix=/usr/local --with-version-suffix=1.5.0b1 Read the INSTALL to get details on how to configure the flags for your purposes. Or you may wish to do this in a chroot to be sure it behaves! * Is there a converter from the LyX file format 1.3.7 to 1.5.0. (Looking at them with vi there are some obvious differences...) not sure * Is Qt4 needed for LyX-1.5.0? I believe so. When run, configure looked for this, and said not found. And when I installed qt4, it went perfectly. HTH - R
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 1) is released
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:25:30 +0100 Hellmut Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I'm working on an IBM Lenovo ThinkPad T60 with gentoo-Linux + KDE-3.5.6 > + tetex-3.0_p1-r3 > > I'm still using LyX-1.3.7 because of the problems I have with some > special characters like å, ç, accented Letters etc. in LyX-1.4.x. > > Some Questions: > * Can I install LyX-1.5.0beta1 in parallel to LyX-1.3.7? (generating > manually from the sources probably) this might do it: ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 --prefix=/usr/local --with-version-suffix=1.5.0b1 Read the INSTALL to get details on how to configure the flags for your purposes. Or you may wish to do this in a chroot to be sure it behaves! > > * Is there a converter from the LyX file format 1.3.7 to 1.5.0. > (Looking at them with vi there are some obvious differences...) not sure > > * Is Qt4 needed for LyX-1.5.0? I believe so. When run, configure looked for this, and said "not found". And when I installed qt4, it went perfectly. HTH - R >
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 1) is released
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:01:11 + José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Public release of LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 1) === We are glad to announce the release of LyX 1.5.0 (beta 1). Nice. Works well, so far does all the LyX things I need: make ps, pdf, bibtex. The INSTALL file needs editing as its now 1.5.0 and not 1.4.x line 53: LyX 1.4.x makes great use of C++ Standard Template Library (STL). It compiled with out any probs in Ubuntu Dapper (i386) and the checkinstall package is here: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.5.0beta1-1_i386.deb this used configure: $ ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 --prefix=/usr/local This does not check for dependencies. It just saves the time from finding and installing the extra packages needed to compile LyX and compiling the final package. cheers Russell
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 1) is released
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:01:11 + José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Public release of LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 1) === We are glad to announce the release of LyX 1.5.0 (beta 1). Nice. Works well, so far does all the LyX things I need: make ps, pdf, bibtex. The INSTALL file needs editing as its now 1.5.0 and not 1.4.x line 53: LyX 1.4.x makes great use of C++ Standard Template Library (STL). It compiled with out any probs in Ubuntu Dapper (i386) and the checkinstall package is here: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.5.0beta1-1_i386.deb this used configure: $ ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 --prefix=/usr/local This does not check for dependencies. It just saves the time from finding and installing the extra packages needed to compile LyX and compiling the final package. cheers Russell
Re: LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 1) is released
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:01:11 + José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Public release of LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 1) > === > > We are glad to announce the release of LyX 1.5.0 (beta 1). > > Nice. Works well, so far does all the LyX things I need: make ps, pdf, bibtex. The INSTALL file needs editing as its now 1.5.0 and not 1.4.x line 53: LyX 1.4.x makes great use of C++ Standard Template Library (STL). It compiled with out any probs in Ubuntu Dapper (i386) and the checkinstall package is here: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.5.0beta1-1_i386.deb this used configure: $ ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt4 --enable-optimization=-O3 --prefix=/usr/local This does not check for dependencies. It just saves the time from finding and installing the extra packages needed to compile LyX and compiling the final package. cheers Russell
Re: Stupid table question
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:50:06 +0100 Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: André Bonhôte schrieb: Blame me, I have found it: Edit Rows Columns Add Row Although this is wrong in the manual ... maybe someone wants to change this one day. It is correctly described in the new EmbeddedObjects manual that comes with LyX 1.4.4. This is an awesome addition to the LyX library and this alone makes the move to 1.4.4 well worth it. IMHO. Thanks Uwe, it is a tremendous help! Russell
Re: Stupid table question
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:50:06 +0100 Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: André Bonhôte schrieb: Blame me, I have found it: Edit Rows Columns Add Row Although this is wrong in the manual ... maybe someone wants to change this one day. It is correctly described in the new EmbeddedObjects manual that comes with LyX 1.4.4. This is an awesome addition to the LyX library and this alone makes the move to 1.4.4 well worth it. IMHO. Thanks Uwe, it is a tremendous help! Russell
Re: Stupid table question
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:50:06 +0100 Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > André Bonhôte schrieb: > > Blame me, I have found it: Edit > Rows & Columns > Add Row > > > > Although this is wrong in the manual ... maybe someone wants to change > > this one day. > > It is correctly described in the new EmbeddedObjects manual that comes with > LyX 1.4.4. This is an awesome addition to the LyX library and this alone makes the move to 1.4.4 well worth it. IMHO. Thanks Uwe, it is a tremendous help! Russell
ubuntu Dapper checkinstall packages i386
Hi I have made checkinstall packages for Ubuntu Dapper. This does not take care of dependencies. This just saves you the time compiling from source. http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.4.4-1_i386.deb How this packages was made is outlined here: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/index cheers Russell
ubuntu Dapper checkinstall packages i386
Hi I have made checkinstall packages for Ubuntu Dapper. This does not take care of dependencies. This just saves you the time compiling from source. http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.4.4-1_i386.deb How this packages was made is outlined here: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/index cheers Russell
ubuntu Dapper checkinstall packages i386
Hi I have made checkinstall packages for Ubuntu Dapper. This does not take care of dependencies. This just saves you the time compiling from source. http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/lyx_1.4.4-1_i386.deb How this packages was made is outlined here: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/index cheers Russell
Re: putting image on first page of pdf
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:35:02 +0100 Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie schrieb: I find each time I put an image and generate a pdf, a blank page is the first page, and the image is on the second. This depends on the settings you use. I assume that you have a special titlepage setting or use a special document class. Send a small LyX example file and we can have a look. regards Uwe Hi Uwe, No special settings, just the default vanilla article. Its so I can send images of pages in a text to an instructor who works a different uni to to one I borrow library books from. cheers Russell nutritional-epi-text.lyx Description: application/lyx attachment: willet-nutritional-epi-0001.jpeg
Re: putting image on first page of pdf
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:35:02 +0100 Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie schrieb: I find each time I put an image and generate a pdf, a blank page is the first page, and the image is on the second. This depends on the settings you use. I assume that you have a special titlepage setting or use a special document class. Send a small LyX example file and we can have a look. regards Uwe Hi Uwe, No special settings, just the default vanilla article. Its so I can send images of pages in a text to an instructor who works a different uni to to one I borrow library books from. cheers Russell nutritional-epi-text.lyx Description: application/lyx attachment: willet-nutritional-epi-0001.jpeg
Re: putting image on first page of pdf
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:02:43 +0100 Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie schrieb: No special settings, just the default vanilla article. Why is this called vanilla? oh, I meant plain, as in default, eg with nothing in preamble. I didn't mean to confuse you! Its so I can send images of pages in a text to an instructor who works a different uni to to one I borrow library books from. Everything works fine here, the image is correctly displayed on the first page. What does not work? Viewing the file as PDF works but the image is missing or do you get errors when you want to view the file? Itf the latter is the case, your ImageMagick installation is broken. It happens when the image is scanned in at full size ~A4 and is almost the size of the page. Every thing works out when it is resized to smaller size, say 50%. thanks, its fixed now. regards Russell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: putting image on first page of pdf
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:35:02 +0100 Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie schrieb: I find each time I put an image and generate a pdf, a blank page is the first page, and the image is on the second. This depends on the settings you use. I assume that you have a special titlepage setting or use a special document class. Send a small LyX example file and we can have a look. regards Uwe Hi Uwe, No special settings, just the default vanilla article. Its so I can send images of pages in a text to an instructor who works a different uni to to one I borrow library books from. cheers Russell nutritional-epi-text.lyx Description: application/lyx attachment: willet-nutritional-epi-0001.jpeg
Re: putting image on first page of pdf
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:35:02 +0100 Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie schrieb: I find each time I put an image and generate a pdf, a blank page is the first page, and the image is on the second. This depends on the settings you use. I assume that you have a special titlepage setting or use a special document class. Send a small LyX example file and we can have a look. regards Uwe Hi Uwe, No special settings, just the default vanilla article. Its so I can send images of pages in a text to an instructor who works a different uni to to one I borrow library books from. cheers Russell nutritional-epi-text.lyx Description: application/lyx attachment: willet-nutritional-epi-0001.jpeg
Re: putting image on first page of pdf
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:02:43 +0100 Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie schrieb: No special settings, just the default vanilla article. Why is this called vanilla? oh, I meant plain, as in default, eg with nothing in preamble. I didn't mean to confuse you! Its so I can send images of pages in a text to an instructor who works a different uni to to one I borrow library books from. Everything works fine here, the image is correctly displayed on the first page. What does not work? Viewing the file as PDF works but the image is missing or do you get errors when you want to view the file? Itf the latter is the case, your ImageMagick installation is broken. It happens when the image is scanned in at full size ~A4 and is almost the size of the page. Every thing works out when it is resized to smaller size, say 50%. thanks, its fixed now. regards Russell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: putting image on first page of pdf
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:35:02 +0100 Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Russell Davie schrieb: > > > I find each time I put an image and generate a pdf, a blank page is the > > first page, and the image is on the second. > > This depends on the settings you use. I assume that you have a special > titlepage setting or use a > special document class. Send a small LyX example file and we can have a look. > > regards Uwe Hi Uwe, No special settings, just the default "vanilla" article. Its so I can send images of pages in a text to an instructor who works a different uni to to one I borrow library books from. cheers Russell nutritional-epi-text.lyx Description: application/lyx <>
Re: putting image on first page of pdf
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:35:02 +0100 Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Russell Davie schrieb: > > > I find each time I put an image and generate a pdf, a blank page is the > > first page, and the image is on the second. > > This depends on the settings you use. I assume that you have a special > titlepage setting or use a > special document class. Send a small LyX example file and we can have a look. > > regards Uwe Hi Uwe, No special settings, just the default "vanilla" article. Its so I can send images of pages in a text to an instructor who works a different uni to to one I borrow library books from. cheers Russell nutritional-epi-text.lyx Description: application/lyx <>
Re: putting image on first page of pdf
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:02:43 +0100 Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Russell Davie schrieb: > > > No special settings, just the default "vanilla" article. > > Why is this called "vanilla"? oh, I meant "plain", as in default, eg with nothing in preamble. I didn't mean to confuse you! > > > Its so I can send images of pages in a text to an instructor who works a > > different uni to to one I borrow library books from. > > Everything works fine here, the image is correctly displayed on the first > page. What does not work? > Viewing the file as PDF works but the image is missing or do you get errors > when you want to view > the file? > > Itf the latter is the case, your ImageMagick installation is broken. It happens when the image is scanned in at full size ~A4 and is almost the size of the page. Every thing works out when it is resized to smaller size, say 50%. thanks, its fixed now. regards Russell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: Hide parts of the document
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:18:39 +0100 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag, 27. Januar 2007 15:30 schrieb Bo Peng: You mean something like the folding feature found in some text editors. This would be very useful indeed, but is not possible yet. Please enter this as an enhancement request at http://bugzilla.lyx.org. I guess he meant outline view of word? I was editing a huge unsectioned word document and I really missed lyx's navigation menu. Maybe. But the folding stuff would be useful nevertheless IMHO (although the outliner is a partial replacement). Georg This is a great suggestion! Cut and pasting to move big sections of text within the doc would be much easier with folding. I had to do this last night and used mouse dragging to select, then C-X, C-V. I over shot the selection a few times before I got it right. Sometimes this leads to several cut-pastes and which makes mistakes, and means later on fixing up the mess. Even if the sections folded, this would make it a great deal easier to do this. thanks in advance for your great efforts, cheers Russsell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: Hide parts of the document
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:18:39 +0100 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag, 27. Januar 2007 15:30 schrieb Bo Peng: You mean something like the folding feature found in some text editors. This would be very useful indeed, but is not possible yet. Please enter this as an enhancement request at http://bugzilla.lyx.org. I guess he meant outline view of word? I was editing a huge unsectioned word document and I really missed lyx's navigation menu. Maybe. But the folding stuff would be useful nevertheless IMHO (although the outliner is a partial replacement). Georg This is a great suggestion! Cut and pasting to move big sections of text within the doc would be much easier with folding. I had to do this last night and used mouse dragging to select, then C-X, C-V. I over shot the selection a few times before I got it right. Sometimes this leads to several cut-pastes and which makes mistakes, and means later on fixing up the mess. Even if the sections folded, this would make it a great deal easier to do this. thanks in advance for your great efforts, cheers Russsell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: Hide parts of the document
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:18:39 +0100 Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Samstag, 27. Januar 2007 15:30 schrieb Bo Peng: > > > You mean something like the "folding" feature found in some text > editors. > > > This would be very useful indeed, but is not possible yet. Please enter > > > this as an enhancement request at http://bugzilla.lyx.org. > > > > I guess he meant outline view of word? I was editing a huge > > unsectioned word document and I really missed lyx's navigation menu. > > Maybe. But the folding stuff would be useful nevertheless IMHO (although > the outliner is a partial replacement). > > > Georg This is a great suggestion! Cut and pasting to move big sections of text within the doc would be much easier with folding. I had to do this last night and used mouse dragging to select, then C-X, C-V. I over shot the selection a few times before I got it right. Sometimes this leads to several cut-pastes and which makes mistakes, and means later on fixing up the mess. Even if the sections folded, this would make it a great deal easier to do this. thanks in advance for your great efforts, cheers Russsell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:20:15 -0500 Richard Kleeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie wrote: Not yet. Ubuntu does have various levels, but it means to upgrade to something like Deb-unstable and comes with all the cutting edge flakiness as a bonus! No thanks, I sort out how to do a proper package soon. Russell Well I am using edgy and I see little flakiness. It is actually more stable in my experience than LTS Dapper. I suspect two trends occur with Ubuntu: 1) The short release cycle (6 months) means that some bugs are not properly sorted out. 2) On the other hand all linux apps are overall slowly getting more mature and stable so if you use the latest distro you use (in principle) somewhat more stable software. Of course when major new features are added to an app this argument is not valid anymore. Maybe, I upgraded too quickly last yr and went from Ubuntu Breezy to Dapper before it was official. OMG, was this a mistake. I now know I should have installed it via a chroot, and tested it out. But anyway, I learnt the hard way and broke a production machine. It might be a little too conservative not to upgrade to most shiniest version, but I retain my sanity, or some thing that looks like it. ;-)
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:20:15 -0500 Richard Kleeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie wrote: Not yet. Ubuntu does have various levels, but it means to upgrade to something like Deb-unstable and comes with all the cutting edge flakiness as a bonus! No thanks, I sort out how to do a proper package soon. Russell Well I am using edgy and I see little flakiness. It is actually more stable in my experience than LTS Dapper. I suspect two trends occur with Ubuntu: 1) The short release cycle (6 months) means that some bugs are not properly sorted out. 2) On the other hand all linux apps are overall slowly getting more mature and stable so if you use the latest distro you use (in principle) somewhat more stable software. Of course when major new features are added to an app this argument is not valid anymore. Maybe, I upgraded too quickly last yr and went from Ubuntu Breezy to Dapper before it was official. OMG, was this a mistake. I now know I should have installed it via a chroot, and tested it out. But anyway, I learnt the hard way and broke a production machine. It might be a little too conservative not to upgrade to most shiniest version, but I retain my sanity, or some thing that looks like it. ;-)
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:20:15 -0500 Richard Kleeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Russell Davie wrote: > > > > > Not yet. Ubuntu does have various levels, but it means to upgrade to > > something like Deb-unstable and comes with all the cutting edge flakiness > > as a bonus! No thanks, I sort out how to do a proper package soon. > > > > Russell > > > > > Well I am using edgy and I see little "flakiness". It is actually more > stable in my experience than LTS Dapper. I suspect two trends occur with > Ubuntu: > > 1) The short release cycle (6 months) means that some bugs are not > properly sorted out. > > 2) On the other hand all linux apps are overall slowly getting more > mature and stable so if you use the latest distro you use (in principle) > somewhat more stable software. Of course when major new features are > added to an app this argument is not valid anymore. Maybe, I upgraded too quickly last yr and went from Ubuntu Breezy to Dapper before it was "official". OMG, was this a mistake. I now know I should have installed it via a chroot, and tested it out. But anyway, I learnt the hard way and broke a production machine. It might be a little too conservative not to upgrade to most shiniest version, but I retain my sanity, or some thing that looks like it. ;-)
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:36:14 -0500 David L. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:02:07 +1100 Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used the binaries made by the LyX Deb team when I ran Debian and they are 100% reliable. Thanks guys! Now I am Ubuntu-Dapper which is limited to LyX 1.3.7. To get most recent (1.4.3) I compiled from source which works. However this bypasses the packaging system. More recently I found out about how to make simple Debian packages using checkinstall. To make a deb with checkinstall is a relatively easy thing to do. Technically its a Debian packaging layer on top of compiling from source. Although checkinstall makes a deb that fits into the the Debian packaging system, the package is lacking notification for dependencies. So it can't be considered official deb package in any way. I have used checkinstall to make a deb package of 1.4.3. This also works well and fits into the Ubuntu packaging system. If you want my recent checkinsall deb for LyX 1.4.3. to run on Ubuntu-Dapper, I don't know about Ubuntu, but debian-etch comes with LyX 1.4.3 now, so there is really no need to make your own package. If it were so easy I would have gone ahead an used it, but alas the Deb etch binary wants dependencies that Ubuntu can't satisfy. So I rolled my own. It might also be not a great idea to distribute it, since that might not be compatible with the official one in terms of dependencies. No intention of distributing it for exactly that reason. If somebody wanted it then I would post on my ISP webspace. The instructions for checkinstall are so straight forward that it's pure ego silliness that think some one would want it anyway. grin Does Ubuntu come in various levels of cutting-edge-ness like pure debian does? Maybe there is already a package there you could use. Not yet. Ubuntu does have various levels, but it means to upgrade to something like Deb-unstable and comes with all the cutting edge flakiness as a bonus! No thanks, I sort out how to do a proper package soon. Russell
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:36:14 -0500 David L. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:02:07 +1100 Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used the binaries made by the LyX Deb team when I ran Debian and they are 100% reliable. Thanks guys! Now I am Ubuntu-Dapper which is limited to LyX 1.3.7. To get most recent (1.4.3) I compiled from source which works. However this bypasses the packaging system. More recently I found out about how to make simple Debian packages using checkinstall. To make a deb with checkinstall is a relatively easy thing to do. Technically its a Debian packaging layer on top of compiling from source. Although checkinstall makes a deb that fits into the the Debian packaging system, the package is lacking notification for dependencies. So it can't be considered official deb package in any way. I have used checkinstall to make a deb package of 1.4.3. This also works well and fits into the Ubuntu packaging system. If you want my recent checkinsall deb for LyX 1.4.3. to run on Ubuntu-Dapper, I don't know about Ubuntu, but debian-etch comes with LyX 1.4.3 now, so there is really no need to make your own package. If it were so easy I would have gone ahead an used it, but alas the Deb etch binary wants dependencies that Ubuntu can't satisfy. So I rolled my own. It might also be not a great idea to distribute it, since that might not be compatible with the official one in terms of dependencies. No intention of distributing it for exactly that reason. If somebody wanted it then I would post on my ISP webspace. The instructions for checkinstall are so straight forward that it's pure ego silliness that think some one would want it anyway. grin Does Ubuntu come in various levels of cutting-edge-ness like pure debian does? Maybe there is already a package there you could use. Not yet. Ubuntu does have various levels, but it means to upgrade to something like Deb-unstable and comes with all the cutting edge flakiness as a bonus! No thanks, I sort out how to do a proper package soon. Russell
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:36:14 -0500 "David L. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:02:07 +1100 > Russell Davie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have used the binaries made by the LyX Deb team when I ran Debian and > > they are 100% reliable. Thanks guys! > > > > Now I am Ubuntu-Dapper which is limited to LyX 1.3.7. To get most recent > > (1.4.3) I compiled from source which works. However this > > bypasses the packaging system. More recently I found out about how to make > > simple Debian packages using checkinstall. To make a deb with checkinstall > > is a relatively easy thing to do. Technically its a Debian packaging layer > > on top of compiling from source. Although checkinstall makes a deb that > > fits into the the Debian packaging system, the package is lacking > > notification for dependencies. So it can't be considered official deb > > package in any way. I have used checkinstall to make a deb package of > > 1.4.3. This also works well and fits into the Ubuntu packaging system. > > > > If you want my recent checkinsall deb for LyX 1.4.3. to run on > > Ubuntu-Dapper, > > I don't know about Ubuntu, but debian-etch comes with LyX 1.4.3 now, so there > is really no need to make your own package. If it were so easy I would have gone ahead an used it, but alas the Deb etch binary wants dependencies that Ubuntu can't satisfy. So I rolled my own. >It might also be not a great idea > to distribute it, since that might not be compatible with the official one > in terms of dependencies. No intention of distributing it for exactly that reason. If somebody wanted it then I would post on my ISP webspace. The instructions for checkinstall are so straight forward that it's pure ego silliness that think some one would want it anyway. > > Does Ubuntu come in various levels of "cutting-edge"-ness like pure debian > does? Maybe there is already a package there you could use. Not yet. Ubuntu does have various levels, but it means to upgrade to something like Deb-unstable and comes with all the cutting edge flakiness as a bonus! No thanks, I sort out how to do a proper package soon. Russell
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:47:42 -0600 Bill Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm considering switching Linux distributions to Debian or Ubuntu, and I wanted to know what the community experience was regarding Lyx on either. In particular, are there any known functional or performance issues? Also, is there any difficulty staying current? Many thanks, -- Bill Wood I have used the binaries made by the LyX Deb team when I ran Debian and they are 100% reliable. Thanks guys! Now I am Ubuntu-Dapper which is limited to LyX 1.3.7. To get most recent (1.4.3) I compiled from source which works. However this bypasses the packaging system. More recently I found out about how to make simple Debian packages using checkinstall. To make a deb with checkinstall is a relatively easy thing to do. Technically its a Debian packaging layer on top of compiling from source. Although checkinstall makes a deb that fits into the the Debian packaging system, the package is lacking notification for dependencies. So it can't be considered official deb package in any way. I have used checkinstall to make a deb package of 1.4.3. This also works well and fits into the Ubuntu packaging system. If you want my recent checkinsall deb for LyX 1.4.3. to run on Ubuntu-Dapper, just say and I'll post it. I am reading Ubuntu's packaging guide which takes the official packaging process step by step. https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/pdf/ubuntu/C/packagingguide.pdf So it looks like I will be able to make a proper Ubuntu-Dapper package some time in the new year. HTH Russell
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:47:42 -0600 Bill Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm considering switching Linux distributions to Debian or Ubuntu, and I wanted to know what the community experience was regarding Lyx on either. In particular, are there any known functional or performance issues? Also, is there any difficulty staying current? Many thanks, -- Bill Wood I have used the binaries made by the LyX Deb team when I ran Debian and they are 100% reliable. Thanks guys! Now I am Ubuntu-Dapper which is limited to LyX 1.3.7. To get most recent (1.4.3) I compiled from source which works. However this bypasses the packaging system. More recently I found out about how to make simple Debian packages using checkinstall. To make a deb with checkinstall is a relatively easy thing to do. Technically its a Debian packaging layer on top of compiling from source. Although checkinstall makes a deb that fits into the the Debian packaging system, the package is lacking notification for dependencies. So it can't be considered official deb package in any way. I have used checkinstall to make a deb package of 1.4.3. This also works well and fits into the Ubuntu packaging system. If you want my recent checkinsall deb for LyX 1.4.3. to run on Ubuntu-Dapper, just say and I'll post it. I am reading Ubuntu's packaging guide which takes the official packaging process step by step. https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/pdf/ubuntu/C/packagingguide.pdf So it looks like I will be able to make a proper Ubuntu-Dapper package some time in the new year. HTH Russell
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:47:42 -0600 Bill Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I'm considering switching Linux distributions to Debian or Ubuntu, > and I wanted to know what the community experience was regarding Lyx on > either. In particular, are there any known functional or performance > issues? Also, is there any difficulty staying current? > > Many thanks, > > -- Bill Wood > I have used the binaries made by the LyX Deb team when I ran Debian and they are 100% reliable. Thanks guys! Now I am Ubuntu-Dapper which is limited to LyX 1.3.7. To get most recent (1.4.3) I compiled from source which works. However this bypasses the packaging system. More recently I found out about how to make simple Debian packages using checkinstall. To make a deb with checkinstall is a relatively easy thing to do. Technically its a Debian packaging layer on top of compiling from source. Although checkinstall makes a deb that fits into the the Debian packaging system, the package is lacking notification for dependencies. So it can't be considered official deb package in any way. I have used checkinstall to make a deb package of 1.4.3. This also works well and fits into the Ubuntu packaging system. If you want my recent checkinsall deb for LyX 1.4.3. to run on Ubuntu-Dapper, just say and I'll post it. I am reading Ubuntu's packaging guide which takes the official packaging process step by step. https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/pdf/ubuntu/C/packagingguide.pdf So it looks like I will be able to make a proper Ubuntu-Dapper package some time in the new year. HTH Russell
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:31:07 +0200 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find out where oolatex or oolatex.sh is installed and tell us the path. Obviously it is not in /usr/bin. 2) Also w2l is missed even though its in my path checking for an OpenOffice.org - LaTeX converter... +checking for w2l... no a locate finds this here: /home/rd/bin/w2l /home/rd/usr/share/latex/conversion/writer2latex04/w2l how can this be fixed? Does your PATH variable contain /home/rd/bin/? If yes, it should be found. thanks, this got both of them! 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? Go to tools-Preferences and add a new format rtf and a converter latex-rtf. This is described in the extended manual IIRC. yes, a bit, but not as clearly as you have put it. Or put this into your ~/.lyx/preferences: \format rtf rtf Rich Text Format \converter latex rtf latex2rtf -o $$o $$i Ok this worked, well at least it generated a rtf file that looked ok, but lacked bibliography. the latex2rtf output showed it was looking for files generated by latex and bibtex assignment1.tex:53 No .aux file. Run LaTeX to create assignment1.aux .. .. assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open assignment1.bbl assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open bibliography file. Create assignment1.bbl using BibTeX It seems latex and bibtex need to be run on the .tex to get bibliography correct before running latex4rtf. eg: latex foo.tex; bibtex foo; latex foo.tex; latex foo.tex; latex2rtf foo.tex You might need to tweak the commandline flags. do you mean latex and perhaps bibtex? Using these commands in Converter latex $$i; bibtex $$i; latex $$i; latex2rtf -o $$o $$i fell over when bibtex couldn't find assignment1.tex.aux. Bibtex looks needs a input with out the .tex, so this is puzzling on how to do this. suggestions please! And I am wondering why we don't serach for latex2rtf by default. so am I! Please tell if some flags are needed, we can then add this converter to LyX. TIA Russell
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:31:07 +0200 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find out where oolatex or oolatex.sh is installed and tell us the path. Obviously it is not in /usr/bin. 2) Also w2l is missed even though its in my path checking for an OpenOffice.org - LaTeX converter... +checking for w2l... no a locate finds this here: /home/rd/bin/w2l /home/rd/usr/share/latex/conversion/writer2latex04/w2l how can this be fixed? Does your PATH variable contain /home/rd/bin/? If yes, it should be found. thanks, this got both of them! 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? Go to tools-Preferences and add a new format rtf and a converter latex-rtf. This is described in the extended manual IIRC. yes, a bit, but not as clearly as you have put it. Or put this into your ~/.lyx/preferences: \format rtf rtf Rich Text Format \converter latex rtf latex2rtf -o $$o $$i Ok this worked, well at least it generated a rtf file that looked ok, but lacked bibliography. the latex2rtf output showed it was looking for files generated by latex and bibtex assignment1.tex:53 No .aux file. Run LaTeX to create assignment1.aux .. .. assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open assignment1.bbl assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open bibliography file. Create assignment1.bbl using BibTeX It seems latex and bibtex need to be run on the .tex to get bibliography correct before running latex4rtf. eg: latex foo.tex; bibtex foo; latex foo.tex; latex foo.tex; latex2rtf foo.tex You might need to tweak the commandline flags. do you mean latex and perhaps bibtex? Using these commands in Converter latex $$i; bibtex $$i; latex $$i; latex2rtf -o $$o $$i fell over when bibtex couldn't find assignment1.tex.aux. Bibtex looks needs a input with out the .tex, so this is puzzling on how to do this. suggestions please! And I am wondering why we don't serach for latex2rtf by default. so am I! Please tell if some flags are needed, we can then add this converter to LyX. TIA Russell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:08:18 +0200 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't call latex yourself, use the needaux flag in the extra flags field. Unfortunately there is no real solution for the bibtex problem, but as a workaround you can run view-update postscript just before exporting. Then the bibtex files will be generated. It took its time and I had a look at what this did. It made eps files from the jpegs, while taking ~50 MB for the five jpeg images. In the long term we should introduce a needbbl flag for the converters. And I am wondering why we don't serach for latex2rtf by default. so am I! I will add it if you can confirm that the converter entry \converter latex rtf latex2rtf -p -S -o $$o $$i needaux works for you. OK, what happened was: a perfect rtf was made! :-) but the output was (Not set):1 Only a single file can be processed at a time (Not set):1 Error! Type latex2rtf -h for help so I changed the command to latex2rtf -p -S $$i with needaux as the extraflag. restarted LyX and opened the file and just ran the conversion, no error and a perfect rtf with correct bibliography! no need to view-update postscript as it seems latex2rtf only needed needaux to make the .bbl and aux. So no need for the needbbl flag for latex4rtf, it works well with what is already available. Many thanks for your help cheers Russell
Re: a locales Problem with lyx 1.4.2
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:47:28 + nicolas roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody. when i lauch lyx, i get the following message in the consoled : Locale fr_FR could not be set And indeed, there is a problem with french accents in all menus. configuration : Lyx 1.4.2 on Debian testing. Any idea ? nicolas this might help: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg47299.html cheers
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:08:18 +0200 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie wrote: 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? Go to tools-Preferences and add a new format rtf and a converter latex-rtf. This is described in the extended manual IIRC. yes, a bit, but not as clearly as you have put it. Or put this into your ~/.lyx/preferences: \format rtf rtf Rich Text Format \converter latex rtf latex2rtf -o $$o $$i Georg ~/lyx/preferences that work to convert to rtf: \format Rich Text Format rtf RTF R ooffice ooffice \converter pdflatex Rich Text Format latex2rtf -p -S $$i needaux cheers Russell
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:31:07 +0200 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find out where oolatex or oolatex.sh is installed and tell us the path. Obviously it is not in /usr/bin. 2) Also w2l is missed even though its in my path checking for an OpenOffice.org - LaTeX converter... +checking for w2l... no a locate finds this here: /home/rd/bin/w2l /home/rd/usr/share/latex/conversion/writer2latex04/w2l how can this be fixed? Does your PATH variable contain /home/rd/bin/? If yes, it should be found. thanks, this got both of them! 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? Go to tools-Preferences and add a new format rtf and a converter latex-rtf. This is described in the extended manual IIRC. yes, a bit, but not as clearly as you have put it. Or put this into your ~/.lyx/preferences: \format rtf rtf Rich Text Format \converter latex rtf latex2rtf -o $$o $$i Ok this worked, well at least it generated a rtf file that looked ok, but lacked bibliography. the latex2rtf output showed it was looking for files generated by latex and bibtex assignment1.tex:53 No .aux file. Run LaTeX to create assignment1.aux .. .. assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open assignment1.bbl assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open bibliography file. Create assignment1.bbl using BibTeX It seems latex and bibtex need to be run on the .tex to get bibliography correct before running latex4rtf. eg: latex foo.tex; bibtex foo; latex foo.tex; latex foo.tex; latex2rtf foo.tex You might need to tweak the commandline flags. do you mean latex and perhaps bibtex? Using these commands in Converter latex $$i; bibtex $$i; latex $$i; latex2rtf -o $$o $$i fell over when bibtex couldn't find assignment1.tex.aux. Bibtex looks needs a input with out the .tex, so this is puzzling on how to do this. suggestions please! And I am wondering why we don't serach for latex2rtf by default. so am I! Please tell if some flags are needed, we can then add this converter to LyX. TIA Russell
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:31:07 +0200 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find out where oolatex or oolatex.sh is installed and tell us the path. Obviously it is not in /usr/bin. 2) Also w2l is missed even though its in my path checking for an OpenOffice.org - LaTeX converter... +checking for w2l... no a locate finds this here: /home/rd/bin/w2l /home/rd/usr/share/latex/conversion/writer2latex04/w2l how can this be fixed? Does your PATH variable contain /home/rd/bin/? If yes, it should be found. thanks, this got both of them! 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? Go to tools-Preferences and add a new format rtf and a converter latex-rtf. This is described in the extended manual IIRC. yes, a bit, but not as clearly as you have put it. Or put this into your ~/.lyx/preferences: \format rtf rtf Rich Text Format \converter latex rtf latex2rtf -o $$o $$i Ok this worked, well at least it generated a rtf file that looked ok, but lacked bibliography. the latex2rtf output showed it was looking for files generated by latex and bibtex assignment1.tex:53 No .aux file. Run LaTeX to create assignment1.aux .. .. assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open assignment1.bbl assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open bibliography file. Create assignment1.bbl using BibTeX It seems latex and bibtex need to be run on the .tex to get bibliography correct before running latex4rtf. eg: latex foo.tex; bibtex foo; latex foo.tex; latex foo.tex; latex2rtf foo.tex You might need to tweak the commandline flags. do you mean latex and perhaps bibtex? Using these commands in Converter latex $$i; bibtex $$i; latex $$i; latex2rtf -o $$o $$i fell over when bibtex couldn't find assignment1.tex.aux. Bibtex looks needs a input with out the .tex, so this is puzzling on how to do this. suggestions please! And I am wondering why we don't serach for latex2rtf by default. so am I! Please tell if some flags are needed, we can then add this converter to LyX. TIA Russell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:08:18 +0200 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't call latex yourself, use the needaux flag in the extra flags field. Unfortunately there is no real solution for the bibtex problem, but as a workaround you can run view-update postscript just before exporting. Then the bibtex files will be generated. It took its time and I had a look at what this did. It made eps files from the jpegs, while taking ~50 MB for the five jpeg images. In the long term we should introduce a needbbl flag for the converters. And I am wondering why we don't serach for latex2rtf by default. so am I! I will add it if you can confirm that the converter entry \converter latex rtf latex2rtf -p -S -o $$o $$i needaux works for you. OK, what happened was: a perfect rtf was made! :-) but the output was (Not set):1 Only a single file can be processed at a time (Not set):1 Error! Type latex2rtf -h for help so I changed the command to latex2rtf -p -S $$i with needaux as the extraflag. restarted LyX and opened the file and just ran the conversion, no error and a perfect rtf with correct bibliography! no need to view-update postscript as it seems latex2rtf only needed needaux to make the .bbl and aux. So no need for the needbbl flag for latex4rtf, it works well with what is already available. Many thanks for your help cheers Russell
Re: a locales Problem with lyx 1.4.2
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:47:28 + nicolas roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody. when i lauch lyx, i get the following message in the consoled : Locale fr_FR could not be set And indeed, there is a problem with french accents in all menus. configuration : Lyx 1.4.2 on Debian testing. Any idea ? nicolas this might help: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg47299.html cheers
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:08:18 +0200 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie wrote: 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? Go to tools-Preferences and add a new format rtf and a converter latex-rtf. This is described in the extended manual IIRC. yes, a bit, but not as clearly as you have put it. Or put this into your ~/.lyx/preferences: \format rtf rtf Rich Text Format \converter latex rtf latex2rtf -o $$o $$i Georg ~/lyx/preferences that work to convert to rtf: \format Rich Text Format rtf RTF R ooffice ooffice \converter pdflatex Rich Text Format latex2rtf -p -S $$i needaux cheers Russell
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:31:07 +0200 Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Find out where oolatex or oolatex.sh is installed and tell us the path. > Obviously it is not in /usr/bin. > > > 2) Also "w2l" is missed even though its in my path > > > > checking for an OpenOffice.org -> LaTeX converter... > > +checking for "w2l"... no > > > > a locate finds this here: > > /home/rd/bin/w2l > > /home/rd/usr/share/latex/conversion/writer2latex04/w2l > > > > how can this be fixed? > > Does your PATH variable contain /home/rd/bin/? If yes, it should be found. > thanks, this got both of them! > > 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? > > Go to tools-Preferences and add a new format rtf and a converter latex->rtf. > This is described in the extended manual IIRC. yes, a bit, but not as clearly as you have put it. > Or put this into your > ~/.lyx/preferences: > > \format rtf rtf "Rich Text Format" "" "" "" > \converter latex rtf "latex2rtf -o $$o $$i" "" > Ok this worked, well at least it generated a rtf file that looked ok, but lacked bibliography. the latex2rtf output showed it was looking for files generated by latex and bibtex assignment1.tex:53 No .aux file. Run LaTeX to create assignment1.aux .. .. assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open bibliography file. Create assignment1.bbl using BibTeX It seems latex and bibtex need to be run on the .tex to get bibliography correct before running latex4rtf. eg: latex foo.tex; bibtex foo; latex foo.tex; latex foo.tex; latex2rtf foo.tex > You might need to tweak the commandline flags. do you mean "latex" and perhaps "bibtex"? Using these commands in Converter "latex $$i; bibtex $$i; latex $$i; latex2rtf -o $$o $$i" fell over when bibtex couldn't find assignment1.tex.aux. Bibtex looks needs a input with out the .tex, so this is puzzling on how to do this. suggestions please! > And I am wondering why we > don't serach for latex2rtf by default. so am I! >Please tell if some flags are > needed, we can then add this converter to LyX. TIA Russell
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:31:07 +0200 Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Find out where oolatex or oolatex.sh is installed and tell us the path. > Obviously it is not in /usr/bin. > > > 2) Also "w2l" is missed even though its in my path > > > > checking for an OpenOffice.org -> LaTeX converter... > > +checking for "w2l"... no > > > > a locate finds this here: > > /home/rd/bin/w2l > > /home/rd/usr/share/latex/conversion/writer2latex04/w2l > > > > how can this be fixed? > > Does your PATH variable contain /home/rd/bin/? If yes, it should be found. > thanks, this got both of them! > > 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? > > Go to tools-Preferences and add a new format rtf and a converter latex->rtf. > This is described in the extended manual IIRC. yes, a bit, but not as clearly as you have put it. > Or put this into your > ~/.lyx/preferences: > > \format rtf rtf "Rich Text Format" "" "" "" > \converter latex rtf "latex2rtf -o $$o $$i" "" > Ok this worked, well at least it generated a rtf file that looked ok, but lacked bibliography. the latex2rtf output showed it was looking for files generated by latex and bibtex assignment1.tex:53 No .aux file. Run LaTeX to create assignment1.aux .. .. assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open assignment1.tex:219 Cannot open bibliography file. Create assignment1.bbl using BibTeX It seems latex and bibtex need to be run on the .tex to get bibliography correct before running latex4rtf. eg: latex foo.tex; bibtex foo; latex foo.tex; latex foo.tex; latex2rtf foo.tex > You might need to tweak the commandline flags. do you mean "latex" and perhaps "bibtex"? Using these commands in Converter "latex $$i; bibtex $$i; latex $$i; latex2rtf -o $$o $$i" fell over when bibtex couldn't find assignment1.tex.aux. Bibtex looks needs a input with out the .tex, so this is puzzling on how to do this. suggestions please! > And I am wondering why we > don't serach for latex2rtf by default. so am I! >Please tell if some flags are > needed, we can then add this converter to LyX. TIA Russell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:08:18 +0200 Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't call latex yourself, use the needaux flag in the extra flags field. > Unfortunately there is no real solution for the bibtex problem, but as a > workaround you can run view->update postscript just before exporting. Then > the bibtex files will be generated. It took its time and I had a look at what this did. It made eps files from the jpegs, while taking ~50 MB for the five jpeg images. > In the long term we should introduce a > needbbl flag for the converters. > > >> And I am wondering why we > >> don't serach for latex2rtf by default. > > > > so am I! > > I will add it if you can confirm that the converter entry > > \converter latex rtf "latex2rtf -p -S -o $$o $$i" "needaux" > > works for you. OK, what happened was: a perfect rtf was made! :-) but the output was (Not set):1 Only a single file can be processed at a time (Not set):1 Error! Type "latex2rtf -h" for help so I changed the command to "latex2rtf -p -S $$i" with "needaux" as the extraflag. restarted LyX and opened the file and just ran the conversion, no error and a perfect rtf with correct bibliography! no need to view->update postscript as it seems latex2rtf only needed "needaux" to make the .bbl and aux. So no need for the "needbbl" flag for latex4rtf, it works well with what is already available. Many thanks for your help cheers Russell
Re: a "locales" Problem with lyx 1.4.2
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:47:28 + nicolas roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everybody. > > when i lauch lyx, i get the following message in the consoled : > > Locale fr_FR could not be set > > And indeed, there is a problem with french accents in all menus. > > configuration : > Lyx 1.4.2 on Debian testing. > > Any idea ? > > nicolas > this might help: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg47299.html cheers
Re: LyX 1.4.3 and converters
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:08:18 +0200 Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Russell Davie wrote: > > >> > 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? > >> > >> Go to tools-Preferences and add a new format rtf and a converter > >> latex->rtf. This is described in the extended manual IIRC. > > > > yes, a bit, but not as clearly as you have put it. > > > >> Or put this into your > >> ~/.lyx/preferences: > >> > >> \format rtf rtf "Rich Text Format" "" "" "" > >> \converter latex rtf "latex2rtf -o $$o $$i" "" > >> Georg ~/lyx/preferences that work to convert to rtf: \format "Rich Text Format" "rtf" "RTF" "R" "ooffice" "ooffice" \converter "pdflatex" "Rich Text Format" "latex2rtf -p -S $$i" "needaux" cheers Russell
LyX 1.4.3 and converters
Hi Just compiled LyX to suit Ubuntu/Dapper and have found some things that configure.py has missed 1) It can't find oolatex although its installed as per Synaptic. from configure: checking for a LaTeX - OpenOffice.org converter... +checking for oolatex... no +checking for oolatex.sh... no how can this be fixed? 2) Also w2l is missed even though its in my path checking for an OpenOffice.org - LaTeX converter... +checking for w2l... no a locate finds this here: /home/rd/bin/w2l /home/rd/usr/share/latex/conversion/writer2latex04/w2l how can this be fixed? 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? I find the rtf export a lot more efficient and reliable to get a MS word doc than existing export methods eg export to MS Word(html). Latex2rtf embeds the graphics into the file, performs all the cross referencing and bibliography easily. If using the MS Word (html) export, its a huge drama to fix it all to make a doc. Whereas with latex2rtf its a simple matter to convert to a doc. Currently to use latex2rtf I have to export to latex (pdflatex), then open a xterm and then run latex2rtf on the .tex. So its still workable, though I can't see the reason of having a broken export (MSWord-html) when a much better one exists. TIA Russell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
LyX 1.4.3 and converters
Hi Just compiled LyX to suit Ubuntu/Dapper and have found some things that configure.py has missed 1) It can't find oolatex although its installed as per Synaptic. from configure: checking for a LaTeX - OpenOffice.org converter... +checking for oolatex... no +checking for oolatex.sh... no how can this be fixed? 2) Also w2l is missed even though its in my path checking for an OpenOffice.org - LaTeX converter... +checking for w2l... no a locate finds this here: /home/rd/bin/w2l /home/rd/usr/share/latex/conversion/writer2latex04/w2l how can this be fixed? 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? I find the rtf export a lot more efficient and reliable to get a MS word doc than existing export methods eg export to MS Word(html). Latex2rtf embeds the graphics into the file, performs all the cross referencing and bibliography easily. If using the MS Word (html) export, its a huge drama to fix it all to make a doc. Whereas with latex2rtf its a simple matter to convert to a doc. Currently to use latex2rtf I have to export to latex (pdflatex), then open a xterm and then run latex2rtf on the .tex. So its still workable, though I can't see the reason of having a broken export (MSWord-html) when a much better one exists. TIA Russell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
LyX 1.4.3 and converters
Hi Just compiled LyX to suit Ubuntu/Dapper and have found some things that configure.py has missed 1) It can't find oolatex although its installed as per Synaptic. from configure: checking for a LaTeX -> OpenOffice.org converter... +checking for "oolatex"... no +checking for "oolatex.sh"... no how can this be fixed? 2) Also "w2l" is missed even though its in my path checking for an OpenOffice.org -> LaTeX converter... +checking for "w2l"... no a locate finds this here: /home/rd/bin/w2l /home/rd/usr/share/latex/conversion/writer2latex04/w2l how can this be fixed? 3) How can LyX be made to use latex2rtf to convert to rtf? I find the rtf export a lot more efficient and reliable to get a MS word doc than existing export methods eg export to MS Word(html). Latex2rtf embeds the graphics into the file, performs all the cross referencing and bibliography easily. If using the MS Word (html) export, its a huge drama to fix it all to make a doc. Whereas with latex2rtf its a simple matter to convert to a doc. Currently to use latex2rtf I have to export to latex (pdflatex), then open a xterm and then run latex2rtf on the .tex. So its still workable, though I can't see the reason of having a broken export (MSWord-html) when a much better one exists. TIA Russell Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: MSWord(html) or OpenOffice.Org
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 00:36:22 -0700 TechTonics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Davies wrote: Russell Davie wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:50:59 -0600 Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:14 PM, TechTonics wrote: Bob Lounsbury wrote: Hi, What do you have to do to export in these formats. Neither work for me on 1.4.3 with XP. Thanks, Bob Lounsbury I don't think they work. Export the file as .tex from LyX. Then from the command line htlatex foo.tex = foo.html which can be directly imported into Word, = foo.doc htlatex is part of the TeX4ht package: When I do: htlatex foo.tex=foo.html it returns: Please type another input file name so I type foo.tex and everything seems to work except that I get a bunch of different foo files like foo.log, foo.aux, foo.idv, but no foo.html file anywhere. The TeX4ht package was already installed by MikTeX. What I'm really trying to do is get a good output from LyX into Word (Since my advisors want a Word document to read for my thesis) with pictures and most formatting complete. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. I apologise in advance for a completely different tack, but it is the OS X in me. I export my documents as PDF (ps2pdf)which is a direct copy of LyX document. It can then be read using a PDF reader, Acrobat is free and actually allows one to add notes to original document. Cheers! Acrobat Reader is free but the program which enables making comments in the pdf file is Adobe Writer (Pro) which is not free. A university probably has a license in some department or other. The supervisor(s) would have to be satisfied with including notes, not changing the text. Conversion from Pro pdf to Word doc is fairly terrible, but the Note making toolbar is a quite flexible alternative. Writing comments in pdf files is possible, according to Adobe, only if the permission is set by the author and has to be dome using Adobe Products. /quote In Adobe Reader, you can add comments only if additional usage rights that enable commenting are added to the PDF document by Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional or Acrobat server products. Otherwise, commenting tools aren't available. / Adobe outline it on page 95 of this: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs/acrruserguide.pdf Now this is something to have as an enhancement to LyX! cheers Russell The certainty available in inductive generalization is the best of all possible certainties! - László E. Szabó Stephen
Re: MSWord(html) or OpenOffice.Org
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:55:57 -0600 Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a lot of work. I'm not even sure that I would be able to figure out how to do all that. What has worked best for me is to do as you said in step 5 and ensure that all the standard environments are on default settings and do an export to rtf from within LyX. Opening the rtf in Word there are a few formatting concerns, but it is easy enough to correct them quickly and send the file out to my advisor. Thanks for the response, I may try that when I have time to go through the instruction carefully. Bob Wow, thanks for that. Worked like a charm! All that had to be done was set the table floats to justify and change the references from \prettyref to \ref and \pageref. All of which is easy to do in LyX 1) export - latex(pdflatex) 2) from an xterm: latex2rtf 3) open with OOo, and sort out formatting on tables note: *everything* else is OK, that is bibliography, figure and table cross referencing, graphics (jpeg or eps). This it brilliant! 4) save as .doc 5) open with MSWordview: perfect! too easy! How can this be made to run from with in LyX (Linux) ? - Russell
Re: MSWord(html) or OpenOffice.Org
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 00:36:22 -0700 TechTonics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Davies wrote: Russell Davie wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:50:59 -0600 Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:14 PM, TechTonics wrote: Bob Lounsbury wrote: Hi, What do you have to do to export in these formats. Neither work for me on 1.4.3 with XP. Thanks, Bob Lounsbury I don't think they work. Export the file as .tex from LyX. Then from the command line htlatex foo.tex = foo.html which can be directly imported into Word, = foo.doc htlatex is part of the TeX4ht package: When I do: htlatex foo.tex=foo.html it returns: Please type another input file name so I type foo.tex and everything seems to work except that I get a bunch of different foo files like foo.log, foo.aux, foo.idv, but no foo.html file anywhere. The TeX4ht package was already installed by MikTeX. What I'm really trying to do is get a good output from LyX into Word (Since my advisors want a Word document to read for my thesis) with pictures and most formatting complete. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. I apologise in advance for a completely different tack, but it is the OS X in me. I export my documents as PDF (ps2pdf)which is a direct copy of LyX document. It can then be read using a PDF reader, Acrobat is free and actually allows one to add notes to original document. Cheers! Acrobat Reader is free but the program which enables making comments in the pdf file is Adobe Writer (Pro) which is not free. A university probably has a license in some department or other. The supervisor(s) would have to be satisfied with including notes, not changing the text. Conversion from Pro pdf to Word doc is fairly terrible, but the Note making toolbar is a quite flexible alternative. Writing comments in pdf files is possible, according to Adobe, only if the permission is set by the author and has to be dome using Adobe Products. /quote In Adobe Reader, you can add comments only if additional usage rights that enable commenting are added to the PDF document by Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional or Acrobat server products. Otherwise, commenting tools aren't available. / Adobe outline it on page 95 of this: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs/acrruserguide.pdf Now this is something to have as an enhancement to LyX! cheers Russell The certainty available in inductive generalization is the best of all possible certainties! - László E. Szabó Stephen
Re: MSWord(html) or OpenOffice.Org
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:55:57 -0600 Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a lot of work. I'm not even sure that I would be able to figure out how to do all that. What has worked best for me is to do as you said in step 5 and ensure that all the standard environments are on default settings and do an export to rtf from within LyX. Opening the rtf in Word there are a few formatting concerns, but it is easy enough to correct them quickly and send the file out to my advisor. Thanks for the response, I may try that when I have time to go through the instruction carefully. Bob Wow, thanks for that. Worked like a charm! All that had to be done was set the table floats to justify and change the references from \prettyref to \ref and \pageref. All of which is easy to do in LyX 1) export - latex(pdflatex) 2) from an xterm: latex2rtf 3) open with OOo, and sort out formatting on tables note: *everything* else is OK, that is bibliography, figure and table cross referencing, graphics (jpeg or eps). This it brilliant! 4) save as .doc 5) open with MSWordview: perfect! too easy! How can this be made to run from with in LyX (Linux) ? - Russell
Re: MSWord(html) or OpenOffice.Org
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 00:36:22 -0700 TechTonics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob Davies wrote: > > Russell Davie wrote: > >> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:50:59 -0600 > >> Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:14 PM, TechTonics wrote: > >>> > >>>> Bob Lounsbury wrote: > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> What do you have to do to export in these formats. Neither work > >>>>> for me on 1.4.3 with XP. > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Bob Lounsbury > >>>> I don't think they work. Export the file as .tex from LyX. > >>>> Then from the command line "htlatex foo.tex" = foo.html > >>>> which can be directly imported into Word, = foo.doc > >>>> htlatex is part of the TeX4ht package: > >>> When I do: "htlatex foo.tex=foo.html" it returns: "Please type > >>> another input file name" so I type "foo.tex" and everything seems to > >>> work except that I get a bunch of different foo files like "foo.log, > >>> foo.aux, foo.idv", but no foo.html file anywhere. The TeX4ht package > >>> was already installed by MikTeX. > >>> > >>> What I'm really trying to do is get a good output from LyX into Word > >>> (Since my advisors want a Word document to read for my thesis) with > >>> pictures and most formatting complete. Any suggestions would be > >>> greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > > > I apologise in advance for a completely different tack, but it is the OS > > X in me. > > > > I export my documents as PDF (ps2pdf)which is a direct copy of LyX > > document. It can then be read using a PDF reader, Acrobat is free and > > actually allows one to add notes to original document. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Acrobat Reader is free but the program which enables making comments > in the pdf file is Adobe Writer (Pro) which is not free. A university > probably has a license in some department or other. The supervisor(s) > would have to be satisfied with including notes, not changing the text. > Conversion from Pro pdf to Word doc is fairly terrible, but the Note > making toolbar is a quite flexible alternative. Writing comments in pdf files is possible, according to Adobe, only if the permission is set by the author and has to be dome using Adobe Products. /quote In Adobe Reader, you can add comments only if additional usage rights that enable commenting are added to the PDF document by Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional or Acrobat server products. Otherwise, commenting tools aren't available. / Adobe outline it on page 95 of this: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs/acrruserguide.pdf Now this is something to have as an enhancement to LyX! cheers Russell > > "The certainty available in inductive generalization is the best of > > all possible certainties!" -> László E. Szabó > > Stephen
Re: MSWord(html) or OpenOffice.Org
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:55:57 -0600 Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That is a lot of work. I'm not even sure that I would be able to > figure out how to do all that. > > What has worked best for me is to do as you said in step 5 and ensure > that all the standard environments are on default settings and do an > export to rtf from within LyX. Opening the rtf in Word there are a > few formatting concerns, but it is easy enough to correct them > quickly and send the file out to my advisor. > > Thanks for the response, I may try that when I have time to go > through the instruction carefully. > > Bob > Wow, thanks for that. Worked like a charm! All that had to be done was set the table floats to "justify" and change the references from \prettyref to \ref and \pageref. All of which is easy to do in LyX 1) export -> latex(pdflatex) 2) from an xterm: latex2rtf 3) open with OOo, and sort out formatting on tables note: *everything* else is OK, that is bibliography, figure and table cross referencing, graphics (jpeg or eps). This it brilliant! 4) save as .doc 5) open with MSWordview: perfect! too easy! How can this be made to run from with in LyX (Linux) ? - Russell
Re: MSWord(html) or OpenOffice.Org
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:50:59 -0600 Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:14 PM, TechTonics wrote: Bob Lounsbury wrote: Hi, What do you have to do to export in these formats. Neither work for me on 1.4.3 with XP. Thanks, Bob Lounsbury I don't think they work. Export the file as .tex from LyX. Then from the command line htlatex foo.tex = foo.html which can be directly imported into Word, = foo.doc htlatex is part of the TeX4ht package: When I do: htlatex foo.tex=foo.html it returns: Please type another input file name so I type foo.tex and everything seems to work except that I get a bunch of different foo files like foo.log, foo.aux, foo.idv, but no foo.html file anywhere. The TeX4ht package was already installed by MikTeX. What I'm really trying to do is get a good output from LyX into Word (Since my advisors want a Word document to read for my thesis) with pictures and most formatting complete. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Hi I have the same issue with my supervisor. I have spent last two weekends and most of today looking for a way to do this and am at my wits end on how to do this smoothly. Can anybody suggest a clean, efficient and reliable way to do this? There are problems in graphics, tables, cross-references and bibliography. All of which make LyX a joy and conversion to .doc a pain. I found that all had problems with this, ie: oolatex, htlatex, ConvTex, thh, hevea and the internal LyX html tools. So far the most acceptable and least pain free was to use oolatex, but the .doc still needs to be edited in OOo as doc as cross references were incorrect and bibliography was left out. why oolatex? 1) makes only one file whereas html conversion can make several (latex2html can make only 1 file); 2) made a .sxw which can be edited by OOo which can be later saved to doc and why this one is the choice: 3) the only tool that embeds the graphics within the file whereas html can only link to outside files. oolatex is a script from the tex4ht family which includes htlatex. How I did this: (for Linux) 1) edit LyX file: to remove all paragraph ie change to standard 2) make graphics as eps or jpeg 3) if eps: correct image sizing though images are a bit blurry, slow response from OOo 4) if jpeg: very small image sizing, clear images and snappy reponse from OOo 5) set formatting of all graphic floats to justify 6) save LyX file in tmp directory eg ../tmp as this will make lots of temporary files 7) export LyX file: file - export - LaTeX(pdflatex) 8) open xterm and go to ../tmp as made above 9) run latex and bibtex on .tex: eg latex foo.tex; bibtex foo.tex; latex foo.tex; latex foo.tex 10) run oolatex on .tex: eg /usr/share/tex4ht/oolatex foo.tex 11) run OOo and open .sxw: ie goto to ../tmp and open foo.sxw 12) check formatting and graphic sizing 13) save as .doc 14) close file, keep OOo running 15) open .doc and check formatting, graphics and referencing 16) may have to open .sxw to copy references to .doc 17) save .doc 18) open again in OOo for final check to see if graphics and references are present 19) final QA check with MSwordview2003 (via wine) 20) it works! celebrate! I took notes on the pros and cons of the other tools and can post them on request. HTH Russell
Re: MSWord(html) or OpenOffice.Org
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:50:59 -0600 Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:14 PM, TechTonics wrote: Bob Lounsbury wrote: Hi, What do you have to do to export in these formats. Neither work for me on 1.4.3 with XP. Thanks, Bob Lounsbury I don't think they work. Export the file as .tex from LyX. Then from the command line htlatex foo.tex = foo.html which can be directly imported into Word, = foo.doc htlatex is part of the TeX4ht package: When I do: htlatex foo.tex=foo.html it returns: Please type another input file name so I type foo.tex and everything seems to work except that I get a bunch of different foo files like foo.log, foo.aux, foo.idv, but no foo.html file anywhere. The TeX4ht package was already installed by MikTeX. What I'm really trying to do is get a good output from LyX into Word (Since my advisors want a Word document to read for my thesis) with pictures and most formatting complete. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Hi I have the same issue with my supervisor. I have spent last two weekends and most of today looking for a way to do this and am at my wits end on how to do this smoothly. Can anybody suggest a clean, efficient and reliable way to do this? There are problems in graphics, tables, cross-references and bibliography. All of which make LyX a joy and conversion to .doc a pain. I found that all had problems with this, ie: oolatex, htlatex, ConvTex, thh, hevea and the internal LyX html tools. So far the most acceptable and least pain free was to use oolatex, but the .doc still needs to be edited in OOo as doc as cross references were incorrect and bibliography was left out. why oolatex? 1) makes only one file whereas html conversion can make several (latex2html can make only 1 file); 2) made a .sxw which can be edited by OOo which can be later saved to doc and why this one is the choice: 3) the only tool that embeds the graphics within the file whereas html can only link to outside files. oolatex is a script from the tex4ht family which includes htlatex. How I did this: (for Linux) 1) edit LyX file: to remove all paragraph ie change to standard 2) make graphics as eps or jpeg 3) if eps: correct image sizing though images are a bit blurry, slow response from OOo 4) if jpeg: very small image sizing, clear images and snappy reponse from OOo 5) set formatting of all graphic floats to justify 6) save LyX file in tmp directory eg ../tmp as this will make lots of temporary files 7) export LyX file: file - export - LaTeX(pdflatex) 8) open xterm and go to ../tmp as made above 9) run latex and bibtex on .tex: eg latex foo.tex; bibtex foo.tex; latex foo.tex; latex foo.tex 10) run oolatex on .tex: eg /usr/share/tex4ht/oolatex foo.tex 11) run OOo and open .sxw: ie goto to ../tmp and open foo.sxw 12) check formatting and graphic sizing 13) save as .doc 14) close file, keep OOo running 15) open .doc and check formatting, graphics and referencing 16) may have to open .sxw to copy references to .doc 17) save .doc 18) open again in OOo for final check to see if graphics and references are present 19) final QA check with MSwordview2003 (via wine) 20) it works! celebrate! I took notes on the pros and cons of the other tools and can post them on request. HTH Russell
Re: MSWord(html) or OpenOffice.Org
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:50:59 -0600 Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:14 PM, TechTonics wrote: > > > Bob Lounsbury wrote: > >> Hi, > >> What do you have to do to export in these formats. Neither work > >> for me on 1.4.3 with XP. > >> Thanks, > >> Bob Lounsbury > > > > I don't think they work. Export the file as .tex from LyX. > > Then from the command line "htlatex foo.tex" = foo.html > > which can be directly imported into Word, = foo.doc > > htlatex is part of the TeX4ht package: > > When I do: "htlatex foo.tex=foo.html" it returns: "Please type > another input file name" so I type "foo.tex" and everything seems to > work except that I get a bunch of different foo files like "foo.log, > foo.aux, foo.idv", but no foo.html file anywhere. The TeX4ht package > was already installed by MikTeX. > > What I'm really trying to do is get a good output from LyX into Word > (Since my advisors want a Word document to read for my thesis) with > pictures and most formatting complete. Any suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > Hi I have the same issue with my supervisor. I have spent last two weekends and most of today looking for a way to do this and am at my wits end on how to do this smoothly. Can anybody suggest a clean, efficient and reliable way to do this? There are problems in graphics, tables, cross-references and bibliography. All of which make LyX a joy and conversion to .doc a pain. I found that all had problems with this, ie: oolatex, htlatex, ConvTex, thh, hevea and the internal LyX html tools. So far the most acceptable and least pain free was to use oolatex, but the .doc still needs to be edited in OOo as doc as cross references were incorrect and bibliography was left out. why oolatex? 1) makes only one file whereas html conversion can make several (latex2html can make only 1 file); 2) made a .sxw which can be edited by OOo which can be later saved to doc and why this one is the choice: 3) the only tool that embeds the graphics within the file whereas html can only link to outside files. oolatex is a script from the tex4ht family which includes htlatex. How I did this: (for Linux) 1) edit LyX file: to remove all "paragraph" ie change to "standard" 2) make graphics as eps or jpeg 3) if eps: correct image sizing though images are a bit blurry, slow response from OOo 4) if jpeg: very small image sizing, clear images and snappy reponse from OOo 5) set formatting of all graphic floats to "justify" 6) save LyX file in tmp directory eg ../tmp as this will make lots of temporary files 7) export LyX file: file -> export -> LaTeX(pdflatex) 8) open xterm and go to ../tmp as made above 9) run latex and bibtex on .tex: eg latex foo.tex; bibtex foo.tex; latex foo.tex; latex foo.tex 10) run oolatex on .tex: eg /usr/share/tex4ht/oolatex foo.tex 11) run OOo and open .sxw: ie goto to ../tmp and open foo.sxw 12) check formatting and graphic sizing 13) save as .doc 14) close file, keep OOo running 15) open .doc and check formatting, graphics and referencing 16) may have to open .sxw to copy references to .doc 17) save .doc 18) open again in OOo for final check to see if graphics and references are present 19) final QA check with MSwordview2003 (via wine) 20) it works! celebrate! I took notes on the pros and cons of the other tools and can post them on request. HTH Russell
Re: user interface study of lyx
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:44:20 +0200 Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: In preparation for the class, I plan to post a separate questionnaire to the lyx-users and lyx-devel lists. I welcome any comments about this. Again, my intent is to have this be a contribution to the lyx project. I am currently working with a colleague on a book chapter using lyx, me on linux platform, he on microsoft. There are some problems on his side (e.g. exporting to pdf) with which I can´t help him. I think, it would be very helpful in such and similar cases to have a linux livesystem on CD which contains all the necessary programs needed for writing documents with lyx such as tex stuff, spellchecker, vector and pixel oriented graphics (xfig, PyX, PStricks..), chemical formulas, bibtex related things such as JabRef or Pybliographer, presentations (beamer..). There is a nice book by Rainer Hattenhauer (2005), Linux-Livesysteme (published by Galileo Computing) - alas in German (perhaps translated in the meantime?) which gives detailed instructions and could serve as a basis. One could just insert this CD in the computer, start the system, work with it, save the produced documents on the computer, and thats it. I think this would be a nice project also for your students ... A LyX liveCD would be nice, sure. Be aware that linux doesn't write very well to NTFS filesystems though - so it may be necessary to save on FAT/FAT32 formatted usb thing if the disk filesystem is NTFS. There is now another ntfs driver for ext3 which looks promising. http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ This Ubuntu Dapper laptop has this in the ability from right at the start. So far it can read/write to NTFS with out errors. from /etc/fstab /dev/sda1 /mnt/windowsntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 There is a driver to read/right ext3 from ntfs. http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html I usually use this to read Ext3 from ntfs so I can install Windows software I have downloaded while in Linux session. Both work, though I only use it read from the other partition, and too cautious to write back cheers Russell As for making pdf on windows - pdflatex is supposed to work there too. Helge Hafting
Re: please complete Questionnaire for Users (as part of a usability study)
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:34:31 -0600 Daryl Hepting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lyx User Questionnaire Great survey! snip-- What do you like best about Lyx? Good, unlikely to point to things to change. As this seems to be about looking at improvements to Lyx, I would be interested to find out what really twists the user's brain. Also what are the users ideas for solving the problems?, how about adding something like this: What do you like least about Lyx? What could be done about it? HTH cheers Russell
Re: user interface study of lyx
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:44:20 +0200 Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: In preparation for the class, I plan to post a separate questionnaire to the lyx-users and lyx-devel lists. I welcome any comments about this. Again, my intent is to have this be a contribution to the lyx project. I am currently working with a colleague on a book chapter using lyx, me on linux platform, he on microsoft. There are some problems on his side (e.g. exporting to pdf) with which I can´t help him. I think, it would be very helpful in such and similar cases to have a linux livesystem on CD which contains all the necessary programs needed for writing documents with lyx such as tex stuff, spellchecker, vector and pixel oriented graphics (xfig, PyX, PStricks..), chemical formulas, bibtex related things such as JabRef or Pybliographer, presentations (beamer..). There is a nice book by Rainer Hattenhauer (2005), Linux-Livesysteme (published by Galileo Computing) - alas in German (perhaps translated in the meantime?) which gives detailed instructions and could serve as a basis. One could just insert this CD in the computer, start the system, work with it, save the produced documents on the computer, and thats it. I think this would be a nice project also for your students ... A LyX liveCD would be nice, sure. Be aware that linux doesn't write very well to NTFS filesystems though - so it may be necessary to save on FAT/FAT32 formatted usb thing if the disk filesystem is NTFS. There is now another ntfs driver for ext3 which looks promising. http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ This Ubuntu Dapper laptop has this in the ability from right at the start. So far it can read/write to NTFS with out errors. from /etc/fstab /dev/sda1 /mnt/windowsntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 There is a driver to read/right ext3 from ntfs. http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html I usually use this to read Ext3 from ntfs so I can install Windows software I have downloaded while in Linux session. Both work, though I only use it read from the other partition, and too cautious to write back cheers Russell As for making pdf on windows - pdflatex is supposed to work there too. Helge Hafting
Re: please complete Questionnaire for Users (as part of a usability study)
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:34:31 -0600 Daryl Hepting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lyx User Questionnaire Great survey! snip-- What do you like best about Lyx? Good, unlikely to point to things to change. As this seems to be about looking at improvements to Lyx, I would be interested to find out what really twists the user's brain. Also what are the users ideas for solving the problems?, how about adding something like this: What do you like least about Lyx? What could be done about it? HTH cheers Russell
Re: user interface study of lyx
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:44:20 +0200 Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > >> In preparation for the class, I plan to post a separate > >> questionnaire to the lyx-users and lyx-devel lists. > >> > >> I welcome any comments about this. Again, my intent is to > >> have this be a contribution to the lyx project. > >> > > > > I am currently working with a colleague on a book chapter using lyx, me on > > linux platform, he on microsoft. There are some problems on his side (e.g. > > exporting to pdf) with which I can´t help him. > > > > I think, it would be very helpful in such and similar cases to have a linux > > livesystem on CD which contains all the necessary programs needed for > > writing > > documents with lyx such as tex stuff, spellchecker, vector and pixel > > oriented > > graphics (xfig, PyX, PStricks..), chemical formulas, bibtex related things > > such as JabRef or Pybliographer, presentations (beamer..). There is a nice > > book by Rainer Hattenhauer (2005), Linux-Livesysteme (published by Galileo > > Computing) - alas in German (perhaps translated in the meantime?) which > > gives > > detailed instructions and could serve as a basis. > > > > One could just insert this CD in the computer, start the system, work with > > it, > > save the produced documents on the computer, and thats it. I think this > > would > > be a nice project also for your students ... > > > A LyX liveCD would be nice, sure. Be aware that linux doesn't > write very well to NTFS filesystems though - so it may be necessary > to save on FAT/FAT32 formatted usb thing if the disk filesystem is NTFS. There is now another ntfs driver for ext3 which looks promising. http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ This Ubuntu Dapper laptop has this in the ability from right at the start. So far it can read/write to NTFS with out errors. from /etc/fstab /dev/sda1 /mnt/windowsntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 There is a driver to read/right ext3 from ntfs. http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html I usually use this to read Ext3 from ntfs so I can install Windows software I have downloaded while in Linux session. Both work, though I only use it read from the other partition, and too cautious to write back cheers Russell > > As for making pdf on windows - pdflatex is supposed to work > there too. > > Helge Hafting
Re: please complete "Questionnaire for Users" (as part of a usability study)
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:34:31 -0600 Daryl Hepting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lyx User Questionnaire Great survey! snip-- > What do you like best about Lyx? > > Good, unlikely to point to things to change. As this seems to be about looking at improvements to Lyx, I would be interested to find out what really twists the user's brain. Also what are the users ideas for solving the problems?, how about adding something like this: What do you like least about Lyx? What could be done about it? HTH cheers Russell
Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:24:10 -0700
Ravi Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Russell and Gunnar,
Thanks for your replies.
Russell, what I meant was not a DVI/PDF preview as you type, but
rather the preview in LyX itself, for example, as you type math, LyX
converts it as you type without needing to run LaTeX on the document.
Ravi
this is what I thought you meant, and it sounds it could need a major addition
to LyX.
Gunnar, your suggestion works. I added the following command
\bind M-s e c t i o n layout Section
So, if I type Alt-section (close enough to \section for me), it has
the desired effect, and a new section environment begins. I'm sure
I'll get tired of it soon, and want to learn the shortcuts in
mac.bind. But it will help the transition for LaTeX users who are not
familiar with shortcuts. Once we have a bind file with shortcuts like
this for all common LaTeX commands, if we don't remember the
shortcut, we can just type the full LaTeX command, while replacing \
with Alt.
Russell, for automatically running LaTeX, I use latexmk (http://
www.phys.psu.edu/~collins/software/latexmk-jcc/) which runs pdflatex
+bibtex the required number of times automatically when the file
changes. The effect is similar to your cron job + kdvi method, but
with the possible advantage that it runs latex and bibtex
automatically as many times as needed.
I like it!
I look forward to using it next time when writing LaTeX
methinks out loud: modifying it to do the same for LyX. ;-)
cheers
Russell
Regards,
Ravi
From: Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: August 13, 2006 9:55:29 PM MST
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:35:18 -0700
Ravi Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
This may have been asked before, but I can't think of the right
keywords to search for it. I'm an experienced LaTeX user, and I
would like to use LyX because it gives me an instant preview of what
I meant. However, I find it's MS Word-like GUI interface with
toolbars, menus, etc. tiresome. As I already know LaTeX, can't I
simply type the LaTeX code, and have Lyx interpret it on the fly?
This functionality is already partially present in the Math editing.
When I type \alpha, it immediately becomes the symbol alpha. I would
think it should be even easier to do things like convert \title{ into
a title style. Is there some way to do this right now in LyX? Are
there others who think this would be a desirable feature?
Ravi
It would be nice to have this functionality, but it requires a
compile of the .lyx or .tex file each keystroke. Using existing
means recompile the source with each keystroke (lyx - tex - dvi -
ps/pdf) would make this a computer intensive task. To make the
real-time rendering of the dvi/ps/pdf and reduce the redundant
file compiling and cpu workload would need a different way than is
currently implemented. IMHO.
So far what I have is to use a cron job to make a dvi/ps/pdf each
minute. (using Linux)
eg making a pdf from cron:
0-59 * * * * /usr/local/bin/lyx1.4.2 -e pdf2 ~/name-of-doc.lyx
/dev/null 21
The command for lyx (or latex) and location of the edited file may
differ.
If you want an email each time its done, remove the /dev/null
21
Also setup the editor to save the file every minute, and do a save
5 seconds before the minute, so the cron job gets the most recent
addition to your file.
Set up the file viewers set to watch file. kdvi, gv and kpdf will
do this for dvi, ps and pdf respectively.
If you have dual monitors, set the viewer on one and editor on the
other. It works a treat!
HTH
Russell
From: Gunnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: August 13, 2006 11:54:20 PM MST
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have you tried to add a customized keyboard shortcut for your own
commands?
That might work. But I think recognizing the leading \ can be a
problem.
I use keyboard shorcuts for everything and I find it to be very
efficient
(most of the time less keystrokes compared to the corresponding latex
command).
I get the \alpha by M-m g a (Alt-M followed by g and a ).
You shouldn't use the GUI interface, you really shouldn't.
Have a look at the files in ~/.lyx/bind
start by looking at the file cua.bind and math.bind see how it is
done.
I think you will figure it out.
On Monday 14 August 2006 01:35, Ravi Rao wrote:
Hello,
This may have been asked before, but I can't think of the right
keywords to search for it. I'm an experienced LaTeX user, and I
would like to use LyX because it gives me an instant preview of what
I meant. However, I find it's MS Word-like GUI interface with
toolbars, menus, etc. tiresome. As I already know
Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:24:10 -0700
Ravi Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Russell and Gunnar,
Thanks for your replies.
Russell, what I meant was not a DVI/PDF preview as you type, but
rather the preview in LyX itself, for example, as you type math, LyX
converts it as you type without needing to run LaTeX on the document.
Ravi
this is what I thought you meant, and it sounds it could need a major addition
to LyX.
Gunnar, your suggestion works. I added the following command
\bind M-s e c t i o n layout Section
So, if I type Alt-section (close enough to \section for me), it has
the desired effect, and a new section environment begins. I'm sure
I'll get tired of it soon, and want to learn the shortcuts in
mac.bind. But it will help the transition for LaTeX users who are not
familiar with shortcuts. Once we have a bind file with shortcuts like
this for all common LaTeX commands, if we don't remember the
shortcut, we can just type the full LaTeX command, while replacing \
with Alt.
Russell, for automatically running LaTeX, I use latexmk (http://
www.phys.psu.edu/~collins/software/latexmk-jcc/) which runs pdflatex
+bibtex the required number of times automatically when the file
changes. The effect is similar to your cron job + kdvi method, but
with the possible advantage that it runs latex and bibtex
automatically as many times as needed.
I like it!
I look forward to using it next time when writing LaTeX
methinks out loud: modifying it to do the same for LyX. ;-)
cheers
Russell
Regards,
Ravi
From: Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: August 13, 2006 9:55:29 PM MST
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:35:18 -0700
Ravi Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
This may have been asked before, but I can't think of the right
keywords to search for it. I'm an experienced LaTeX user, and I
would like to use LyX because it gives me an instant preview of what
I meant. However, I find it's MS Word-like GUI interface with
toolbars, menus, etc. tiresome. As I already know LaTeX, can't I
simply type the LaTeX code, and have Lyx interpret it on the fly?
This functionality is already partially present in the Math editing.
When I type \alpha, it immediately becomes the symbol alpha. I would
think it should be even easier to do things like convert \title{ into
a title style. Is there some way to do this right now in LyX? Are
there others who think this would be a desirable feature?
Ravi
It would be nice to have this functionality, but it requires a
compile of the .lyx or .tex file each keystroke. Using existing
means recompile the source with each keystroke (lyx - tex - dvi -
ps/pdf) would make this a computer intensive task. To make the
real-time rendering of the dvi/ps/pdf and reduce the redundant
file compiling and cpu workload would need a different way than is
currently implemented. IMHO.
So far what I have is to use a cron job to make a dvi/ps/pdf each
minute. (using Linux)
eg making a pdf from cron:
0-59 * * * * /usr/local/bin/lyx1.4.2 -e pdf2 ~/name-of-doc.lyx
/dev/null 21
The command for lyx (or latex) and location of the edited file may
differ.
If you want an email each time its done, remove the /dev/null
21
Also setup the editor to save the file every minute, and do a save
5 seconds before the minute, so the cron job gets the most recent
addition to your file.
Set up the file viewers set to watch file. kdvi, gv and kpdf will
do this for dvi, ps and pdf respectively.
If you have dual monitors, set the viewer on one and editor on the
other. It works a treat!
HTH
Russell
From: Gunnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: August 13, 2006 11:54:20 PM MST
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have you tried to add a customized keyboard shortcut for your own
commands?
That might work. But I think recognizing the leading \ can be a
problem.
I use keyboard shorcuts for everything and I find it to be very
efficient
(most of the time less keystrokes compared to the corresponding latex
command).
I get the \alpha by M-m g a (Alt-M followed by g and a ).
You shouldn't use the GUI interface, you really shouldn't.
Have a look at the files in ~/.lyx/bind
start by looking at the file cua.bind and math.bind see how it is
done.
I think you will figure it out.
On Monday 14 August 2006 01:35, Ravi Rao wrote:
Hello,
This may have been asked before, but I can't think of the right
keywords to search for it. I'm an experienced LaTeX user, and I
would like to use LyX because it gives me an instant preview of what
I meant. However, I find it's MS Word-like GUI interface with
toolbars, menus, etc. tiresome. As I already know
Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:24:10 -0700
Ravi Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Russell and Gunnar,
>
> Thanks for your replies.
>
> Russell, what I meant was not a DVI/PDF preview as you type, but
> rather the preview in LyX itself, for example, as you type math, LyX
> converts it as you type without needing to run LaTeX on the document.
Ravi
this is what I thought you meant, and it sounds it could need a major addition
to LyX.
>
> Gunnar, your suggestion works. I added the following command
> \bind "M-s e c t i o n" "layout Section"
> So, if I type Alt-section (close enough to \section for me), it has
> the desired effect, and a new section environment begins. I'm sure
> I'll get tired of it soon, and want to learn the shortcuts in
> mac.bind. But it will help the transition for LaTeX users who are not
> familiar with shortcuts. Once we have a bind file with shortcuts like
> this for all common LaTeX commands, if we don't remember the
> shortcut, we can just type the full LaTeX command, while replacing \
> with Alt.
>
> Russell, for automatically running LaTeX, I use latexmk (http://
> www.phys.psu.edu/~collins/software/latexmk-jcc/) which runs pdflatex
> +bibtex the required number of times automatically when the file
> changes. The effect is similar to your cron job + kdvi method, but
> with the possible advantage that it runs latex and bibtex
> automatically as many times as needed.
I like it!
I look forward to using it next time when writing LaTeX
methinks out loud: modifying it to do the same for LyX. ;-)
cheers
Russell
>
> Regards,
> Ravi
> >
> > From: Russell Davie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: August 13, 2006 9:55:29 PM MST
> > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> > Subject: Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:35:18 -0700
> > Ravi Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> This may have been asked before, but I can't think of the right
> >> keywords to search for it. I'm an experienced LaTeX user, and I
> >> would like to use LyX because it gives me an instant preview of what
> >> I "meant". However, I find it's MS Word-like GUI interface with
> >> toolbars, menus, etc. tiresome. As I already know LaTeX, can't I
> >> simply type the LaTeX code, and have Lyx interpret it on the fly?
> >> This functionality is already partially present in the Math editing.
> >> When I type \alpha, it immediately becomes the symbol alpha. I would
> >> think it should be even easier to do things like convert \title{ into
> >> a title style. Is there some way to do this right now in LyX? Are
> >> there others who think this would be a desirable feature?
> >>
> >> Ravi
> >
> > It would be nice to have this functionality, but it requires a
> > compile of the .lyx or .tex file each keystroke. Using existing
> > means recompile the source with each keystroke (lyx -> tex -> dvi -
> > > ps/pdf) would make this a computer intensive task. To make the
> > "real-time" rendering of the dvi/ps/pdf and reduce the redundant
> > file compiling and cpu workload would need a different way than is
> > currently implemented. IMHO.
> >
> > So far what I have is to use a cron job to make a dvi/ps/pdf each
> > minute. (using Linux)
> > eg making a pdf from cron:
> >
> > 0-59 * * * * /usr/local/bin/lyx1.4.2 -e pdf2 ~/name-of-doc.lyx
> > >> /dev/null 2>&1
> >
> > The command for lyx (or latex) and location of the edited file may
> > differ.
> > If you want an email each time its done, remove the ">> /dev/null
> > 2>&1"
> > Also setup the editor to save the file every minute, and do a save
> > 5 seconds before the minute, so the cron job gets the most recent
> > addition to your file.
> > Set up the file viewers set to "watch file". kdvi, gv and kpdf will
> > do this for dvi, ps and pdf respectively.
> >
> > If you have dual monitors, set the viewer on one and editor on the
> > other. It works a treat!
> > HTH
> > Russell
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Gunnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: August 13, 2006 11:54:20 PM MST
> > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> > Subject: Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > Have you tried to add a customized keyboard shortcut for your own
> > commands?
> > That might work. But I think recognizing the
Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:35:18 -0700
Ravi Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
This may have been asked before, but I can't think of the right
keywords to search for it. I'm an experienced LaTeX user, and I
would like to use LyX because it gives me an instant preview of what
I meant. However, I find it's MS Word-like GUI interface with
toolbars, menus, etc. tiresome. As I already know LaTeX, can't I
simply type the LaTeX code, and have Lyx interpret it on the fly?
This functionality is already partially present in the Math editing.
When I type \alpha, it immediately becomes the symbol alpha. I would
think it should be even easier to do things like convert \title{ into
a title style. Is there some way to do this right now in LyX? Are
there others who think this would be a desirable feature?
Ravi
It would be nice to have this functionality, but it requires a compile of the
.lyx or .tex file each keystroke. Using existing means recompile the source
with each keystroke (lyx - tex - dvi - ps/pdf) would make this a computer
intensive task. To make the real-time rendering of the dvi/ps/pdf and reduce
the redundant file compiling and cpu workload would need a different way than
is currently implemented. IMHO.
So far what I have is to use a cron job to make a dvi/ps/pdf each minute.
(using Linux)
eg making a pdf from cron:
0-59 * * * * /usr/local/bin/lyx1.4.2 -e pdf2 ~/name-of-doc.lyx /dev/null
21
The command for lyx (or latex) and location of the edited file may differ.
If you want an email each time its done, remove the /dev/null 21
Also setup the editor to save the file every minute, and do a save 5 seconds
before the minute, so the cron job gets the most recent addition to your file.
Set up the file viewers set to watch file. kdvi, gv and kpdf will do this for
dvi, ps and pdf respectively.
If you have dual monitors, set the viewer on one and editor on the other. It
works a treat!
HTH
Russell
Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:35:18 -0700
Ravi Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
This may have been asked before, but I can't think of the right
keywords to search for it. I'm an experienced LaTeX user, and I
would like to use LyX because it gives me an instant preview of what
I meant. However, I find it's MS Word-like GUI interface with
toolbars, menus, etc. tiresome. As I already know LaTeX, can't I
simply type the LaTeX code, and have Lyx interpret it on the fly?
This functionality is already partially present in the Math editing.
When I type \alpha, it immediately becomes the symbol alpha. I would
think it should be even easier to do things like convert \title{ into
a title style. Is there some way to do this right now in LyX? Are
there others who think this would be a desirable feature?
Ravi
It would be nice to have this functionality, but it requires a compile of the
.lyx or .tex file each keystroke. Using existing means recompile the source
with each keystroke (lyx - tex - dvi - ps/pdf) would make this a computer
intensive task. To make the real-time rendering of the dvi/ps/pdf and reduce
the redundant file compiling and cpu workload would need a different way than
is currently implemented. IMHO.
So far what I have is to use a cron job to make a dvi/ps/pdf each minute.
(using Linux)
eg making a pdf from cron:
0-59 * * * * /usr/local/bin/lyx1.4.2 -e pdf2 ~/name-of-doc.lyx /dev/null
21
The command for lyx (or latex) and location of the edited file may differ.
If you want an email each time its done, remove the /dev/null 21
Also setup the editor to save the file every minute, and do a save 5 seconds
before the minute, so the cron job gets the most recent addition to your file.
Set up the file viewers set to watch file. kdvi, gv and kpdf will do this for
dvi, ps and pdf respectively.
If you have dual monitors, set the viewer on one and editor on the other. It
works a treat!
HTH
Russell
Re: LaTeX commands instead of KB shortcuts
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:35:18 -0700
Ravi Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This may have been asked before, but I can't think of the right
> keywords to search for it. I'm an experienced LaTeX user, and I
> would like to use LyX because it gives me an instant preview of what
> I "meant". However, I find it's MS Word-like GUI interface with
> toolbars, menus, etc. tiresome. As I already know LaTeX, can't I
> simply type the LaTeX code, and have Lyx interpret it on the fly?
> This functionality is already partially present in the Math editing.
> When I type \alpha, it immediately becomes the symbol alpha. I would
> think it should be even easier to do things like convert \title{ into
> a title style. Is there some way to do this right now in LyX? Are
> there others who think this would be a desirable feature?
>
> Ravi
It would be nice to have this functionality, but it requires a compile of the
.lyx or .tex file each keystroke. Using existing means recompile the source
with each keystroke (lyx -> tex -> dvi -> ps/pdf) would make this a computer
intensive task. To make the "real-time" rendering of the dvi/ps/pdf and reduce
the redundant file compiling and cpu workload would need a different way than
is currently implemented. IMHO.
So far what I have is to use a cron job to make a dvi/ps/pdf each minute.
(using Linux)
eg making a pdf from cron:
0-59 * * * * /usr/local/bin/lyx1.4.2 -e pdf2 ~/name-of-doc.lyx >> /dev/null
2>&1
The command for lyx (or latex) and location of the edited file may differ.
If you want an email each time its done, remove the ">> /dev/null 2>&1"
Also setup the editor to save the file every minute, and do a save 5 seconds
before the minute, so the cron job gets the most recent addition to your file.
Set up the file viewers set to "watch file". kdvi, gv and kpdf will do this for
dvi, ps and pdf respectively.
If you have dual monitors, set the viewer on one and editor on the other. It
works a treat!
HTH
Russell
Re: automatic update of pdf?
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:51:38 +0200 Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie wrote: Hi, How is it possible to have a automatic update of pdf file so the pdf can viewed as the lyx file is been created? Are there command line options that can be set that would enable this? My plan is, if possible, to have a cron job calling a script to generate pdf from lyx which is then displayed on a viewer: kpdf which can watch for changes in pdf. lyx -e pdf2 xxx.lyx See also `lyx --help' and `man lyx'. This does also work with all other exportable formats. pdf2 is the name of the PDF (pdflatex) format. See the preferences for the names of other formats. Georg I tried that and it complained about jpeg images that were in the lyx file. terminal output: LyX: LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .jpeg.: ...aching_graphics_pulse-radial-artery.jpeg} The would not happen if turning into a pdf using lyx manually (with mouse clicks) with all the different ways of making a pdf dvipdf, pdflatex, ps2pdf What did work was to turn it into a ps, then use ps2pdf to make a pdf lyx -e ps XXX.lyx ; ps2pdf XXX.ps While this worked on the command line, it didn't work as a cron job. The cron command would only do the first section and would not do ps2pdf (?). ps2pdf would not work as a cron job even as a separate cron command! cron entry: 0-59 * * * * /usr/local/bin/lyx1.4.2 -e ps /tmp/xxx.lyx ; /usr/bin/ps2pdf /tmp/xxx.ps This soon fills up the inbox with messages and to stop it add /dev/null 21 after /tmp/xxx.lyx and before ;. I searched the wiki for documentation on the command line use of Lyx and coln't find much. Where else could this be found? TIA Russell
