Re: Bibliography without bibtex file

2011-06-20 Thread Varun deCastro-Arrazola 
Actually, I do use a bibtex file in order to insert references.
However, I'd like to be able to insert single bibliographic references
anywhere in the text, and not just at the end under a section title
(References). Is this possible?

2011/6/16 Julien Rioux jri...@physics.utoronto.ca:
 On 16/06/2011 7:28 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:

 I don't have answer but a related question.

 Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't
 warrant
 being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out how I might
 to
 that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).


 As Richard said you would need ERT or at the very least preamble code. LaTeX
 provides a filecontents environment to produce external files. You could use
 that. See e.g.

 http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/20317/internal-bibliography-with-biblatex/20318#20318

 (the question is about biblatex, but it doesn't matter)

 So you would put

 \begin{filecontents*}{extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file.bib}
 the bibtex code
 \end{filecontents*}

 in the preamble and add extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file to the bibTeX
 inset in your LyX document.

 Although if a citation is worth adding to a document in my opinion it is
 worth adding to a bib file.

 As to your specific question I agree with Manolo Martinez the overhead of
 including more than an *ad hoc* citation will result in your LyX file(s)
 becoming bloated. You will probably save effort by using a dedicated
 bilbiography management tool such as BibDesk or Jabref. Not least saving
 time and face by only having the need to update a single copy of your
 entrie
 rather than all of them in all LyX files.

 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen
 torq...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hi!

 What is the simplest way of working with a LyX document involving
 citations, without using a bibtex file for each LyX file? I want to be
 able
 to use the LyX frontend to select citations from a list. Can this be done
 in
 a way that does not involve a separate bibtex file?

 Will LyX have a self-contained bibliography system sometime? I.e. one
 where you both insert and retrieve citations within LyX, and it is all
 stored in the *.lyx file.

 Best regards
 Torquil Sørensen






 --
 Julien

Fwd: Bibliography without bibtex file

2011-06-20 Thread Varun deCastro-Arrazola 
Thank you, Julien, that's exactly what I was looking for, being able
to insert references at random points in the text. Bibentry works
well, except that I had to add \nobibliography* as tex code before
inserting the bibentry reference. There's an example here:
http://stefaanlippens.net/bibentry

Cheers,

Varun


-- Forwarded message --
From: Julien Rioux jri...@physics.utoronto.ca
Date: 2011/6/20
Subject: Re: Bibliography without bibtex file
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org


On 20/06/2011 4:31 PM, Varun deCastro-Arrazola wrote:

 Actually, I do use a bibtex file in order to insert references.
 However, I'd like to be able to insert single bibliographic references
 anywhere in the text, and not just at the end under a section title
 (References). Is this possible?

 2011/6/16 Julien Riouxjri...@physics.utoronto.ca:

 On 16/06/2011 7:28 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:

 I don't have answer but a related question.

 Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't
 warrant
 being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out how I might
 to
 that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).


 As Richard said you would need ERT or at the very least preamble code. LaTeX
 provides a filecontents environment to produce external files. You could use
 that. See e.g.

 http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/20317/internal-bibliography-with-biblatex/20318#20318

 (the question is about biblatex, but it doesn't matter)

 So you would put

 \begin{filecontents*}{extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file.bib}
 the bibtex code
 \end{filecontents*}

 in the preamble and add extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file to the bibTeX
 inset in your LyX document.

 Although if a citation is worth adding to a document in my opinion it is
 worth adding to a bib file.

 As to your specific question I agree with Manolo Martinez the overhead of
 including more than an *ad hoc* citation will result in your LyX file(s)
 becoming bloated. You will probably save effort by using a dedicated
 bilbiography management tool such as BibDesk or Jabref. Not least saving
 time and face by only having the need to update a single copy of your
 entrie
 rather than all of them in all LyX files.

 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen
 torq...@gmail.com    wrote:

 Hi!

 What is the simplest way of working with a LyX document involving
 citations, without using a bibtex file for each LyX file? I want to be
 able
 to use the LyX frontend to select citations from a list. Can this be done
 in
 a way that does not involve a separate bibtex file?

 Will LyX have a self-contained bibliography system sometime? I.e. one
 where you both insert and retrieve citations within LyX, and it is all
 stored in the *.lyx file.

 Best regards
 Torquil Sørensen






 --
 Julien




You could use the bibentry package. Be warned, I think it requires
that you use natbib and a natbib-compatible bibtex style file
(.bst)---it doesn't play well with all .bst files.

In the preamble:
\usepackage{bibentry}

and in the text, in TeX code:
\bibentry{the_bibtex_key_you_would_like_to_cite}

and you still need a BibTeX Generated Bibliography inset somewhere
in your document.

Another solution is biblatex, which I have never used.

Cheers,
Julien

Re: Bibliography without bibtex file

2011-06-20 Thread Varun deCastro-Arrazola 
Actually, I do use a bibtex file in order to insert references.
However, I'd like to be able to insert single bibliographic references
anywhere in the text, and not just at the end under a section title
(References). Is this possible?

2011/6/16 Julien Rioux jri...@physics.utoronto.ca:
 On 16/06/2011 7:28 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:

 I don't have answer but a related question.

 Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't
 warrant
 being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out how I might
 to
 that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).


 As Richard said you would need ERT or at the very least preamble code. LaTeX
 provides a filecontents environment to produce external files. You could use
 that. See e.g.

 http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/20317/internal-bibliography-with-biblatex/20318#20318

 (the question is about biblatex, but it doesn't matter)

 So you would put

 \begin{filecontents*}{extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file.bib}
 the bibtex code
 \end{filecontents*}

 in the preamble and add extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file to the bibTeX
 inset in your LyX document.

 Although if a citation is worth adding to a document in my opinion it is
 worth adding to a bib file.

 As to your specific question I agree with Manolo Martinez the overhead of
 including more than an *ad hoc* citation will result in your LyX file(s)
 becoming bloated. You will probably save effort by using a dedicated
 bilbiography management tool such as BibDesk or Jabref. Not least saving
 time and face by only having the need to update a single copy of your
 entrie
 rather than all of them in all LyX files.

 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen
 torq...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hi!

 What is the simplest way of working with a LyX document involving
 citations, without using a bibtex file for each LyX file? I want to be
 able
 to use the LyX frontend to select citations from a list. Can this be done
 in
 a way that does not involve a separate bibtex file?

 Will LyX have a self-contained bibliography system sometime? I.e. one
 where you both insert and retrieve citations within LyX, and it is all
 stored in the *.lyx file.

 Best regards
 Torquil Sørensen






 --
 Julien

Fwd: Bibliography without bibtex file

2011-06-20 Thread Varun deCastro-Arrazola 
Thank you, Julien, that's exactly what I was looking for, being able
to insert references at random points in the text. Bibentry works
well, except that I had to add \nobibliography* as tex code before
inserting the bibentry reference. There's an example here:
http://stefaanlippens.net/bibentry

Cheers,

Varun


-- Forwarded message --
From: Julien Rioux jri...@physics.utoronto.ca
Date: 2011/6/20
Subject: Re: Bibliography without bibtex file
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org


On 20/06/2011 4:31 PM, Varun deCastro-Arrazola wrote:

 Actually, I do use a bibtex file in order to insert references.
 However, I'd like to be able to insert single bibliographic references
 anywhere in the text, and not just at the end under a section title
 (References). Is this possible?

 2011/6/16 Julien Riouxjri...@physics.utoronto.ca:

 On 16/06/2011 7:28 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:

 I don't have answer but a related question.

 Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't
 warrant
 being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out how I might
 to
 that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).


 As Richard said you would need ERT or at the very least preamble code. LaTeX
 provides a filecontents environment to produce external files. You could use
 that. See e.g.

 http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/20317/internal-bibliography-with-biblatex/20318#20318

 (the question is about biblatex, but it doesn't matter)

 So you would put

 \begin{filecontents*}{extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file.bib}
 the bibtex code
 \end{filecontents*}

 in the preamble and add extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file to the bibTeX
 inset in your LyX document.

 Although if a citation is worth adding to a document in my opinion it is
 worth adding to a bib file.

 As to your specific question I agree with Manolo Martinez the overhead of
 including more than an *ad hoc* citation will result in your LyX file(s)
 becoming bloated. You will probably save effort by using a dedicated
 bilbiography management tool such as BibDesk or Jabref. Not least saving
 time and face by only having the need to update a single copy of your
 entrie
 rather than all of them in all LyX files.

 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen
 torq...@gmail.com    wrote:

 Hi!

 What is the simplest way of working with a LyX document involving
 citations, without using a bibtex file for each LyX file? I want to be
 able
 to use the LyX frontend to select citations from a list. Can this be done
 in
 a way that does not involve a separate bibtex file?

 Will LyX have a self-contained bibliography system sometime? I.e. one
 where you both insert and retrieve citations within LyX, and it is all
 stored in the *.lyx file.

 Best regards
 Torquil Sørensen






 --
 Julien




You could use the bibentry package. Be warned, I think it requires
that you use natbib and a natbib-compatible bibtex style file
(.bst)---it doesn't play well with all .bst files.

In the preamble:
\usepackage{bibentry}

and in the text, in TeX code:
\bibentry{the_bibtex_key_you_would_like_to_cite}

and you still need a BibTeX Generated Bibliography inset somewhere
in your document.

Another solution is biblatex, which I have never used.

Cheers,
Julien

Re: Bibliography without bibtex file

2011-06-20 Thread Varun deCastro-Arrazola 
Actually, I do use a bibtex file in order to insert references.
However, I'd like to be able to insert single bibliographic references
anywhere in the text, and not just at the end under a section title
(References). Is this possible?

2011/6/16 Julien Rioux :
> On 16/06/2011 7:28 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
>>
>> I don't have answer but a related question.
>>
>> Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't
>> warrant
>> being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out how I might
>> to
>> that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).
>>
>
> As Richard said you would need ERT or at the very least preamble code. LaTeX
> provides a filecontents environment to produce external files. You could use
> that. See e.g.
>
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/20317/internal-bibliography-with-biblatex/20318#20318
>
> (the question is about biblatex, but it doesn't matter)
>
> So you would put
>
> \begin{filecontents*}{extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file.bib}
> 
> \end{filecontents*}
>
> in the preamble and add extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file to the bibTeX
> inset in your LyX document.
>
> Although if a citation is worth adding to a document in my opinion it is
> worth adding to a bib file.
>
>> As to your specific question I agree with Manolo Martinez the overhead of
>> including more than an *ad hoc* citation will result in your LyX file(s)
>> becoming bloated. You will probably save effort by using a dedicated
>> bilbiography management tool such as BibDesk or Jabref. Not least saving
>> time and face by only having the need to update a single copy of your
>> entrie
>> rather than all of them in all LyX files.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen<
>> torq...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> What is the simplest way of working with a LyX document involving
>>> citations, without using a bibtex file for each LyX file? I want to be
>>> able
>>> to use the LyX frontend to select citations from a list. Can this be done
>>> in
>>> a way that does not involve a separate bibtex file?
>>>
>>> Will LyX have a "self-contained" bibliography system sometime? I.e. one
>>> where you both insert and retrieve citations within LyX, and it is all
>>> stored in the *.lyx file.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Torquil Sørensen
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Julien
>
>

Fwd: Bibliography without bibtex file

2011-06-20 Thread Varun deCastro-Arrazola 
Thank you, Julien, that's exactly what I was looking for, being able
to insert references at random points in the text. Bibentry works
well, except that I had to add \nobibliography* as tex code before
inserting the bibentry reference. There's an example here:
http://stefaanlippens.net/bibentry

Cheers,

Varun


-- Forwarded message --
From: Julien Rioux <jri...@physics.utoronto.ca>
Date: 2011/6/20
Subject: Re: Bibliography without bibtex file
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org


On 20/06/2011 4:31 PM, Varun deCastro-Arrazola wrote:
>
> Actually, I do use a bibtex file in order to insert references.
> However, I'd like to be able to insert single bibliographic references
> anywhere in the text, and not just at the end under a section title
> (References). Is this possible?
>
> 2011/6/16 Julien Rioux<jri...@physics.utoronto.ca>:
>>
>> On 16/06/2011 7:28 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't have answer but a related question.
>>>
>>> Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't
>>> warrant
>>> being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out how I might
>>> to
>>> that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).
>>>
>>
>> As Richard said you would need ERT or at the very least preamble code. LaTeX
>> provides a filecontents environment to produce external files. You could use
>> that. See e.g.
>>
>> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/20317/internal-bibliography-with-biblatex/20318#20318
>>
>> (the question is about biblatex, but it doesn't matter)
>>
>> So you would put
>>
>> \begin{filecontents*}{extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file.bib}
>> 
>> \end{filecontents*}
>>
>> in the preamble and add extra_citation_not_worth_a_bib_file to the bibTeX
>> inset in your LyX document.
>>
>> Although if a citation is worth adding to a document in my opinion it is
>> worth adding to a bib file.
>>
>>> As to your specific question I agree with Manolo Martinez the overhead of
>>> including more than an *ad hoc* citation will result in your LyX file(s)
>>> becoming bloated. You will probably save effort by using a dedicated
>>> bilbiography management tool such as BibDesk or Jabref. Not least saving
>>> time and face by only having the need to update a single copy of your
>>> entrie
>>> rather than all of them in all LyX files.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen<
>>> torq...@gmail.com>    wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> What is the simplest way of working with a LyX document involving
>>>> citations, without using a bibtex file for each LyX file? I want to be
>>>> able
>>>> to use the LyX frontend to select citations from a list. Can this be done
>>>> in
>>>> a way that does not involve a separate bibtex file?
>>>>
>>>> Will LyX have a "self-contained" bibliography system sometime? I.e. one
>>>> where you both insert and retrieve citations within LyX, and it is all
>>>> stored in the *.lyx file.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Torquil Sørensen
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Julien
>>
>>
>

You could use the bibentry package. Be warned, I think it requires
that you use natbib and a natbib-compatible bibtex style file
(.bst)---it doesn't play well with all .bst files.

In the preamble:
\usepackage{bibentry}

and in the text, in TeX code:
\bibentry{the_bibtex_key_you_would_like_to_cite}

and you still need a "BibTeX Generated Bibliography" inset somewhere
in your document.

Another solution is biblatex, which I have never used.

Cheers,
Julien

Re: Bibliography without bibtex file

2011-06-16 Thread Varun deCastro-Arrazola 
So, how can it be done by ERT?

2011/6/16 Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net:
 On 06/16/2011 07:28 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
 I don't have answer but a related question.

 Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't
 warrant being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out
 how I might to that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).

 There's no way to do this, other than by ERT. But you could just create
 a small bib file with the unique citations for that document and include it.

 rh

Re: Bibliography without bibtex file

2011-06-16 Thread Varun deCastro-Arrazola 
So, how can it be done by ERT?

2011/6/16 Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net:
 On 06/16/2011 07:28 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
 I don't have answer but a related question.

 Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't
 warrant being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out
 how I might to that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).

 There's no way to do this, other than by ERT. But you could just create
 a small bib file with the unique citations for that document and include it.

 rh

Re: Bibliography without bibtex file

2011-06-16 Thread Varun deCastro-Arrazola 
So, how can it be done by ERT?

2011/6/16 Richard Heck :
> On 06/16/2011 07:28 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
>> I don't have answer but a related question.
>>
>> Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't
>> warrant being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out
>> how I might to that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).
>>
> There's no way to do this, other than by ERT. But you could just create
> a small bib file with the unique citations for that document and include it.
>
> rh
>
>