[slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour

2005-05-05 Thread Todd Denniston
Meri Williams wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I'm getting some really random bibliography behaviour. 
 SNIP
 Sometime this evening when I was editing the
 document, the citations changed to numbers and so did the
 Bibliography!!
 
 I am completely confused. I haven't knowingly changed anything -- both
 the settings I mentioned above are still the same. The only thing I
 can think I did was I pasted in some content from a previous draft
 (but the bib there was formatted in the same way).
SNIP
Meri,
I know it may be a bit too late for you now, but I have found that by
keeping my lyx files in RCS/CVS/some SCM system, if something goes a little
strange it makes figuring out what a lot easier.  LyX makes doing so fairly
easy on a unix system with RCS installed, just pick 
file-'version control'- the current top option
and enter a comment if it requests one.
Plus if all else fails (a really rare event) you can drop back to the last
working checkin.
I find this most valuable when I am playing about with concepts I don't yet
understand.
You may even want to start now if you are not already using it, so that as
you experiment to figure out what is wrong, you can have the confidence of
being able to get back to a known (albeit broken) state.

I would also check to see if the editor/bib system you are using also can
version control your bib file too, or do it by hand calling RCS's `ci -l`
command.

good luck.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) 
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


[slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour

2005-05-05 Thread Meri Williams
 Meri,
 I know it may be a bit too late for you now, but I have found that by
 keeping my lyx files in RCS/CVS/some SCM system, if something goes a little
 strange it makes figuring out what a lot easier.  LyX makes doing so fairly
 easy on a unix system with RCS installed, just pick
 file-'version control'- the current top option
 and enter a comment if it requests one.
 Plus if all else fails (a really rare event) you can drop back to the last
 working checkin.
 I find this most valuable when I am playing about with concepts I don't yet
 understand.
 You may even want to start now if you are not already using it, so that as
 you experiment to figure out what is wrong, you can have the confidence of
 being able to get back to a known (albeit broken) state.

 I would also check to see if the editor/bib system you are using also can
 version control your bib file too, or do it by hand calling RCS's `ci -l`
 command.

Hi Todd -- thanks for the advice. I do already have versions saved
which still work as intended, I just can't see any difference in the
config! I don't particularly want to have to go back and retype
anything, but if it's necessary I can do so. I was just hoping there
was an easier solution ;-) It just seems really strange behaviour,
because I didn't change any config at all -- I just pasted some text
in from another document!

Thanks again for the good advice
Meri

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Re: [slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour

2005-05-05 Thread Matej Cepl
Meri Williams wrote:
 Hi Todd -- thanks for the advice. I do already have versions saved
 which still work as intended, I just can't see any difference in the
 config! I don't particularly want to have to go back and retype
 anything, but if it's necessary I can do so. I was just hoping there
 was an easier solution ;-) It just seems really strange behaviour,
 because I didn't change any config at all -- I just pasted some text
 in from another document!

If it is not confidential -- can you mail to me an output of rcsdiff -u
against the last version which worked?

Matj

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   -- L.P. Berra




[slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour

2005-05-05 Thread Todd Denniston
Meri Williams wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I'm getting some really random bibliography behaviour. 
 SNIP
 Sometime this evening when I was editing the
 document, the citations changed to numbers and so did the
 Bibliography!!
 
 I am completely confused. I haven't knowingly changed anything -- both
 the settings I mentioned above are still the same. The only thing I
 can think I did was I pasted in some content from a previous draft
 (but the bib there was formatted in the same way).
SNIP
Meri,
I know it may be a bit too late for you now, but I have found that by
keeping my lyx files in RCS/CVS/some SCM system, if something goes a little
strange it makes figuring out what a lot easier.  LyX makes doing so fairly
easy on a unix system with RCS installed, just pick 
file-'version control'- the current top option
and enter a comment if it requests one.
Plus if all else fails (a really rare event) you can drop back to the last
working checkin.
I find this most valuable when I am playing about with concepts I don't yet
understand.
You may even want to start now if you are not already using it, so that as
you experiment to figure out what is wrong, you can have the confidence of
being able to get back to a known (albeit broken) state.

I would also check to see if the editor/bib system you are using also can
version control your bib file too, or do it by hand calling RCS's `ci -l`
command.

good luck.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) 
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


[slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour

2005-05-05 Thread Meri Williams
 Meri,
 I know it may be a bit too late for you now, but I have found that by
 keeping my lyx files in RCS/CVS/some SCM system, if something goes a little
 strange it makes figuring out what a lot easier.  LyX makes doing so fairly
 easy on a unix system with RCS installed, just pick
 file-'version control'- the current top option
 and enter a comment if it requests one.
 Plus if all else fails (a really rare event) you can drop back to the last
 working checkin.
 I find this most valuable when I am playing about with concepts I don't yet
 understand.
 You may even want to start now if you are not already using it, so that as
 you experiment to figure out what is wrong, you can have the confidence of
 being able to get back to a known (albeit broken) state.

 I would also check to see if the editor/bib system you are using also can
 version control your bib file too, or do it by hand calling RCS's `ci -l`
 command.

Hi Todd -- thanks for the advice. I do already have versions saved
which still work as intended, I just can't see any difference in the
config! I don't particularly want to have to go back and retype
anything, but if it's necessary I can do so. I was just hoping there
was an easier solution ;-) It just seems really strange behaviour,
because I didn't change any config at all -- I just pasted some text
in from another document!

Thanks again for the good advice
Meri

--
Because it's not *always* the quiet ones

shameless plug http://blog.meriwilliams.com/ /shameless plug


-- 
Because it's not *always* the quiet ones

shameless plug http://blog.meriwilliams.com/ /shameless plug


Re: [slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour

2005-05-05 Thread Matej Cepl
Meri Williams wrote:
 Hi Todd -- thanks for the advice. I do already have versions saved
 which still work as intended, I just can't see any difference in the
 config! I don't particularly want to have to go back and retype
 anything, but if it's necessary I can do so. I was just hoping there
 was an easier solution ;-) It just seems really strange behaviour,
 because I didn't change any config at all -- I just pasted some text
 in from another document!

If it is not confidential -- can you mail to me an output of rcsdiff -u
against the last version which worked?

Matj

-- 
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
 
When you come to the fork in the road, take it
   -- L.P. Berra




[slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour

2005-05-05 Thread Todd Denniston
Meri Williams wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm getting some really random bibliography behaviour. 
> 
> Sometime this evening when I was editing the
> document, the citations changed to numbers and so did the
> Bibliography!!
> 
> I am completely confused. I haven't knowingly changed anything -- both
> the settings I mentioned above are still the same. The only thing I
> can think I did was I pasted in some content from a previous draft
> (but the bib there was formatted in the same way).

Meri,
I know it may be a bit too late for you now, but I have found that by
keeping my lyx files in RCS/CVS/some SCM system, if something goes a little
strange it makes figuring out what a lot easier.  LyX makes doing so fairly
easy on a unix system with RCS installed, just pick 
file->'version control'-> the current top option
and enter a comment if it requests one.
Plus if all else fails (a really rare event) you can drop back to the last
working checkin.
I find this most valuable when I am playing about with concepts I don't yet
understand.
You may even want to start now if you are not already using it, so that as
you experiment to figure out what is wrong, you can have the confidence of
being able to get back to a known (albeit broken) state.

I would also check to see if the editor/bib system you are using also can
version control your bib file too, or do it by hand calling RCS's `ci -l`
command.

good luck.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) 
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


[slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour

2005-05-05 Thread Meri Williams
> Meri,
> I know it may be a bit too late for you now, but I have found that by
> keeping my lyx files in RCS/CVS/some SCM system, if something goes a little
> strange it makes figuring out what a lot easier.  LyX makes doing so fairly
> easy on a unix system with RCS installed, just pick
> file->'version control'-> the current top option
> and enter a comment if it requests one.
> Plus if all else fails (a really rare event) you can drop back to the last
> working checkin.
> I find this most valuable when I am playing about with concepts I don't yet
> understand.
> You may even want to start now if you are not already using it, so that as
> you experiment to figure out what is wrong, you can have the confidence of
> being able to get back to a known (albeit broken) state.
>
> I would also check to see if the editor/bib system you are using also can
> version control your bib file too, or do it by hand calling RCS's `ci -l`
> command.

Hi Todd -- thanks for the advice. I do already have versions saved
which still work as intended, I just can't see any difference in the
config! I don't particularly want to have to go back and retype
anything, but if it's necessary I can do so. I was just hoping there
was an easier solution ;-) It just seems really strange behaviour,
because I didn't change any config at all -- I just pasted some text
in from another document!

Thanks again for the good advice
Meri

--
"Because it's not *always* the quiet ones"

 http://blog.meriwilliams.com/ 


-- 
"Because it's not *always* the quiet ones"

 http://blog.meriwilliams.com/ 


Re: [slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour

2005-05-05 Thread Matej Cepl
Meri Williams wrote:
> Hi Todd -- thanks for the advice. I do already have versions saved
> which still work as intended, I just can't see any difference in the
> config! I don't particularly want to have to go back and retype
> anything, but if it's necessary I can do so. I was just hoping there
> was an easier solution ;-) It just seems really strange behaviour,
> because I didn't change any config at all -- I just pasted some text
> in from another document!

If it is not confidential -- can you mail to me an output of rcsdiff -u
against the last version which worked?

Matěj

-- 
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
 
When you come to the fork in the road, take it
   -- L.P. Berra