Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا 
Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub ebook? FN

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Re: Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Paola Manzini 

Have you tried eLiXer?
http://alexfernandez.github.io/elyxer/

On 12/04/2014 14:16, Frederick FN Noronha ?  *??? 
??? wrote:
Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub 
ebook? FN


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Re: Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Richard Heck 
On 04/12/2014 09:16 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا wrote:

Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub ebook?


There has been quite a bit of discussion about this on the list. If you 
search the archives for EPUB, you'll find it. The recommended path at 
the moment is to export the LyX document to HTML, either using LyX's own 
XHTML export facility or some alternative. Then you can use some tool 
such as Calibre [1] to convert that to EPUB, or any other such format. 
Either way, you'll need to do some manual cleanup of the HTML file to 
get good results, and you'll need manually to create a table of 
contents, etc.


There was some work done on EPUB export from within LyX by a GSOC 
student last summer, but it did not make it into 2.1.0. I intend to 
incorporate it into LyX this summer, so that it will be part of LyX 2.2.0.


Richard


[1] http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq.html

Re: Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Steve Litt 
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 10:45:49 -0400
Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:

 On 04/12/2014 09:16 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या
 *فريدريك نورونيا wrote:
  Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub
  ebook?
 
 There has been quite a bit of discussion about this on the list. If
 you search the archives for EPUB, you'll find it. The recommended
 path at the moment is to export the LyX document to HTML, either
 using LyX's own XHTML export facility or some alternative. Then you
 can use some tool such as Calibre [1] to convert that to EPUB, or any
 other such format. Either way, you'll need to do some manual cleanup
 of the HTML file to get good results, and you'll need manually to
 create a table of contents, etc.

Trying to make ePub from LyX is the highway to heartache. Both eLyXer
and the built in LyX Xhtml exporter export HTML astoundingly unsuitable
for ePub creation. This involves not *some* manual cleanup, it involves
*horrendous* manual cleanup. LyX is not well-formed XML, so you can't
write a converter based on its XML hierarchy, but its native format is
quite difficult to parse. From what I can see, there is currently no
practical way to make ePub from LyX, except in the very simplest of
books.

What I'm doing currently is writing my books straight to Xhtml using
Bluefish, and then using my home-brew converter to make them into ePub,
from which I can Calibre convert them to anything I want. Later, I'll
make an Xhtml to LaTeX converter so I can single source those Xhtml
files to either flowing text or PDF.

 
 There was some work done on EPUB export from within LyX by a GSOC 
 student last summer, but it did not make it into 2.1.0. I intend to 
 incorporate it into LyX this summer, so that it will be part of LyX
 2.2.0.

This would be wonderful, because Bluefish isn't as good of an authoring
environment as LyX, and I'd say this results in a 20% decrease in my
authoring productivity.

Curious: What would it take to make LyX' native format well-formed XML?
It's already difficult to parse via text, so there's not that much to
lose. If LyX were well-formed XML, one could parse out the text and
styles, and *any* kind of export would become reasonable to do. There
might be 20 competing ePub exporters if LyX native format ever became
well formed XML.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا 
Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub ebook? FN

-- 
FN Phone +91-832-2409490 Mobile +91-9822122436
Blog: The View From My Window http://wp.me/1c1F
About.me: http://about.me/noronhafrederick
Goa,1556: http://bit.ly/Goa1556Books2

Re: Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Paola Manzini 

Have you tried eLiXer?
http://alexfernandez.github.io/elyxer/

On 12/04/2014 14:16, Frederick FN Noronha ?  *??? 
??? wrote:
Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub 
ebook? FN


--
FN Phone +91-832-2409490 Mobile +91-9822122436
Blog: The View From My Window http://wp.me/1c1F
About.me: http://about.me/noronhafrederick
Goa,1556: http://bit.ly/Goa1556Books2

Re: Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Richard Heck 
On 04/12/2014 09:16 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا wrote:

Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub ebook?


There has been quite a bit of discussion about this on the list. If you 
search the archives for EPUB, you'll find it. The recommended path at 
the moment is to export the LyX document to HTML, either using LyX's own 
XHTML export facility or some alternative. Then you can use some tool 
such as Calibre [1] to convert that to EPUB, or any other such format. 
Either way, you'll need to do some manual cleanup of the HTML file to 
get good results, and you'll need manually to create a table of 
contents, etc.


There was some work done on EPUB export from within LyX by a GSOC 
student last summer, but it did not make it into 2.1.0. I intend to 
incorporate it into LyX this summer, so that it will be part of LyX 2.2.0.


Richard


[1] http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq.html

Re: Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Steve Litt 
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 10:45:49 -0400
Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:

 On 04/12/2014 09:16 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या
 *فريدريك نورونيا wrote:
  Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub
  ebook?
 
 There has been quite a bit of discussion about this on the list. If
 you search the archives for EPUB, you'll find it. The recommended
 path at the moment is to export the LyX document to HTML, either
 using LyX's own XHTML export facility or some alternative. Then you
 can use some tool such as Calibre [1] to convert that to EPUB, or any
 other such format. Either way, you'll need to do some manual cleanup
 of the HTML file to get good results, and you'll need manually to
 create a table of contents, etc.

Trying to make ePub from LyX is the highway to heartache. Both eLyXer
and the built in LyX Xhtml exporter export HTML astoundingly unsuitable
for ePub creation. This involves not *some* manual cleanup, it involves
*horrendous* manual cleanup. LyX is not well-formed XML, so you can't
write a converter based on its XML hierarchy, but its native format is
quite difficult to parse. From what I can see, there is currently no
practical way to make ePub from LyX, except in the very simplest of
books.

What I'm doing currently is writing my books straight to Xhtml using
Bluefish, and then using my home-brew converter to make them into ePub,
from which I can Calibre convert them to anything I want. Later, I'll
make an Xhtml to LaTeX converter so I can single source those Xhtml
files to either flowing text or PDF.

 
 There was some work done on EPUB export from within LyX by a GSOC 
 student last summer, but it did not make it into 2.1.0. I intend to 
 incorporate it into LyX this summer, so that it will be part of LyX
 2.2.0.

This would be wonderful, because Bluefish isn't as good of an authoring
environment as LyX, and I'd say this results in a 20% decrease in my
authoring productivity.

Curious: What would it take to make LyX' native format well-formed XML?
It's already difficult to parse via text, so there's not that much to
lose. If LyX were well-formed XML, one could parse out the text and
styles, and *any* kind of export would become reasonable to do. There
might be 20 competing ePub exporters if LyX native format ever became
well formed XML.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا 
Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub ebook? FN

-- 
FN Phone +91-832-2409490 Mobile +91-9822122436
Blog: The View From My Window http://wp.me/1c1F
About.me: http://about.me/noronhafrederick
Goa,1556: http://bit.ly/Goa1556Books2

Re: Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Paola Manzini 

Have you tried eLiXer?
http://alexfernandez.github.io/elyxer/

On 12/04/2014 14:16, Frederick FN Noronha ?  *??? 
??? wrote:
Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub 
ebook? FN


--
FN Phone +91-832-2409490 Mobile +91-9822122436
Blog: The View From My Window http://wp.me/1c1F
About.me: http://about.me/noronhafrederick
Goa,1556: http://bit.ly/Goa1556Books2

Re: Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Richard Heck 
On 04/12/2014 09:16 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا wrote:

Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub ebook?


There has been quite a bit of discussion about this on the list. If you 
search the archives for EPUB, you'll find it. The recommended path at 
the moment is to export the LyX document to HTML, either using LyX's own 
XHTML export facility or some alternative. Then you can use some tool 
such as Calibre [1] to convert that to EPUB, or any other such format. 
Either way, you'll need to do some manual cleanup of the HTML file to 
get good results, and you'll need manually to create a table of 
contents, etc.


There was some work done on EPUB export from within LyX by a GSOC 
student last summer, but it did not make it into 2.1.0. I intend to 
incorporate it into LyX this summer, so that it will be part of LyX 2.2.0.


Richard


[1] http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq.html

Re: Filters, etc ... to make ebooks?

2014-04-12 Thread Steve Litt 
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 10:45:49 -0400
Richard Heck  wrote:

> On 04/12/2014 09:16 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या
> *فريدريك نورونيا wrote:
> > Is there some way please to easily convert a Lyx file into an epub
> > ebook?
> 
> There has been quite a bit of discussion about this on the list. If
> you search the archives for EPUB, you'll find it. The recommended
> path at the moment is to export the LyX document to HTML, either
> using LyX's own XHTML export facility or some alternative. Then you
> can use some tool such as Calibre [1] to convert that to EPUB, or any
> other such format. Either way, you'll need to do some manual cleanup
> of the HTML file to get good results, and you'll need manually to
> create a table of contents, etc.

Trying to make ePub from LyX is the highway to heartache. Both eLyXer
and the built in LyX Xhtml exporter export HTML astoundingly unsuitable
for ePub creation. This involves not *some* manual cleanup, it involves
*horrendous* manual cleanup. LyX is not well-formed XML, so you can't
write a converter based on its XML hierarchy, but its native format is
quite difficult to parse. From what I can see, there is currently no
practical way to make ePub from LyX, except in the very simplest of
books.

What I'm doing currently is writing my books straight to Xhtml using
Bluefish, and then using my home-brew converter to make them into ePub,
from which I can Calibre convert them to anything I want. Later, I'll
make an Xhtml to LaTeX converter so I can single source those Xhtml
files to either flowing text or PDF.

> 
> There was some work done on EPUB export from within LyX by a GSOC 
> student last summer, but it did not make it into 2.1.0. I intend to 
> incorporate it into LyX this summer, so that it will be part of LyX
> 2.2.0.

This would be wonderful, because Bluefish isn't as good of an authoring
environment as LyX, and I'd say this results in a 20% decrease in my
authoring productivity.

Curious: What would it take to make LyX' native format well-formed XML?
It's already difficult to parse via text, so there's not that much to
lose. If LyX were well-formed XML, one could parse out the text and
styles, and *any* kind of export would become reasonable to do. There
might be 20 competing ePub exporters if LyX native format ever became
well formed XML.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance