Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
Am Thursday 30 April 2009 11:03:31 schrieb Guenter Milde: On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde: On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place without giving troubles. Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the document. There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the problem. Günter I will try, but I am not sure whether I can manage. It occurs apparently in cases where several citations follow each other and one of the citations has to have some special feature where breaking in the pdf output is not possible. I might send you a longer part privately, if you don't mind Wolfgang
Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
Am Thursday 30 April 2009 11:03:31 schrieb Guenter Milde: On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde: On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place without giving troubles. Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the document. There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the problem. Günter I will try, but I am not sure whether I can manage. It occurs apparently in cases where several citations follow each other and one of the citations has to have some special feature where breaking in the pdf output is not possible. I might send you a longer part privately, if you don't mind Wolfgang
Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
Am Thursday 30 April 2009 11:03:31 schrieb Guenter Milde: > On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > > Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde: > >> On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > > > > continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it > > can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another > > place without giving troubles. > > Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the > document. > > > There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the > > begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note > > for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this > > occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. > > It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the > problem. > > Günter I will try, but I am not sure whether I can manage. It occurs apparently in cases where several citations follow each other and one of the citations has to have some special feature where breaking in the pdf output is not possible. I might send you a longer part privately, if you don't mind Wolfgang
Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde: On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for the 20 chapters) This is strange: I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd). Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document db0) it works. If run separately, the doc will use its own DocumentSettings, if the master is compiled, the childrens DocumentSettings are ignored. Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error. I have used the same Documentsettings in all subdocuments, but your proposal with an external file is much better and I will use it from now on. I guess it has to do with the aux file being used differently if I use the whole document (starting with the master docu) versus just a chapter sub-docu I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the case. continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place without giving troubles. There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary... Fortunately I made a good mileage Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea? I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However, compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have. To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and write in the DocumentSettings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or \input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory). (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include? Input is correct. Günter I appreciated your help and the one of others very much. Wolfgang
Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde: On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place without giving troubles. Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the document. There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the problem. Günter
Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde: On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for the 20 chapters) This is strange: I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd). Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document db0) it works. If run separately, the doc will use its own DocumentSettings, if the master is compiled, the childrens DocumentSettings are ignored. Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error. I have used the same Documentsettings in all subdocuments, but your proposal with an external file is much better and I will use it from now on. I guess it has to do with the aux file being used differently if I use the whole document (starting with the master docu) versus just a chapter sub-docu I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the case. continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place without giving troubles. There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary... Fortunately I made a good mileage Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea? I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However, compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have. To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and write in the DocumentSettings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or \input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory). (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include? Input is correct. Günter I appreciated your help and the one of others very much. Wolfgang
Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde: On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place without giving troubles. Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the document. There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the problem. Günter
Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde: > On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > >> > I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find > >> > errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 > >> > for the 20 chapters) > > > > This is strange: > > I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error > > (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd). > > > > Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master > > document db0) it works. > > If run separately, the doc will use its own Document>Settings, if the > master is compiled, the childrens Document>Settings are ignored. > Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error. I have used the same Document>settings in all subdocuments, but your proposal with an external file is much better and I will use it from now on. I guess it has to do with the aux file being used differently if I use the whole document (starting with the master docu) versus just a chapter sub-docu > > > I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know > > already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs > > also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of > > using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the > > subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the > > case. continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place without giving troubles. There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. > > The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary... Fortunately I made a good mileage > > > Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence > > from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages > > between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of > > include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea? > > I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However, > compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have. > > To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are > reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and > write in the Document>Settings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or > \input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory). > > >> > (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include? > > Input is correct. > > Günter I appreciated your help and the one of others very much. Wolfgang
Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde: >> On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it > can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place > without giving troubles. Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the document. > There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the > begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note > for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this > occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the problem. Günter
Fwd: Re: subdocuments
Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 10:29:49 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 09:36:13 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for the 20 chapters) As a first trial: . (1) why does it not show db0 and db1? I managed to get that right, sorry for bothering you This is strange: I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd). Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document db0) it works. I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the case. Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea? Wolfgang (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include? still open question Wolfgang -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325 --- -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for the 20 chapters) This is strange: I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd). Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document db0) it works. If run separately, the doc will use its own DocumentSettings, if the master is compiled, the childrens DocumentSettings are ignored. Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error. I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the case. The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary... Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea? I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However, compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have. To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and write in the DocumentSettings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or \input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory). (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include? Input is correct. Günter
Fwd: Re: subdocuments
Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 10:29:49 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 09:36:13 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for the 20 chapters) As a first trial: . (1) why does it not show db0 and db1? I managed to get that right, sorry for bothering you This is strange: I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd). Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document db0) it works. I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the case. Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea? Wolfgang (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include? still open question Wolfgang -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325 --- -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for the 20 chapters) This is strange: I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd). Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document db0) it works. If run separately, the doc will use its own DocumentSettings, if the master is compiled, the childrens DocumentSettings are ignored. Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error. I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the case. The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary... Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea? I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However, compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have. To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and write in the DocumentSettings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or \input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory). (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include? Input is correct. Günter
Fwd: Re: subdocuments
Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 10:29:49 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: > Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 09:36:13 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: > > I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find > > errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for > > the 20 chapters) > > > > As a first trial: . > > (1) why does it not show db0 and db1? > > I managed to get that right, sorry for bothering you This is strange: I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd). Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document db0) it works. I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the case. Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea? Wolfgang > > > (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include? > > still open question > > > Wolfgang -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325 --- -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments
On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: >> > I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find >> > errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for >> > the 20 chapters) > This is strange: > I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error > (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd). > Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document > db0) it works. If run separately, the doc will use its own Document>Settings, if the master is compiled, the childrens Document>Settings are ignored. Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error. > I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know > already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs > also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of > using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the > subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the > case. The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary... > Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence > from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages > between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of > include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea? I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However, compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have. To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and write in the Document>Settings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or \input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory). >> > (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include? Input is correct. Günter