Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-05-01 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Thursday 30 April 2009 11:03:31 schrieb Guenter Milde:
 On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde:
  On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 
  continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it
  can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another
  place without giving troubles.

 Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the
 document.

  There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the
  begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note
  for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this
  occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns.

 It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the
 problem.

 Günter
I will try, but I am not sure whether I can manage. It occurs apparently in 
cases where several citations follow each other and one of the citations  has 
to have some special feature where breaking in the pdf output is not 
possible. I might send you a longer part privately, if you don't mind

Wolfgang


Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-05-01 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Thursday 30 April 2009 11:03:31 schrieb Guenter Milde:
 On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde:
  On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 
  continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it
  can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another
  place without giving troubles.

 Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the
 document.

  There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the
  begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note
  for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this
  occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns.

 It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the
 problem.

 Günter
I will try, but I am not sure whether I can manage. It occurs apparently in 
cases where several citations follow each other and one of the citations  has 
to have some special feature where breaking in the pdf output is not 
possible. I might send you a longer part privately, if you don't mind

Wolfgang


Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-05-01 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Thursday 30 April 2009 11:03:31 schrieb Guenter Milde:
> On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde:
> >> On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> >
> > continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it
> > can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another
> > place without giving troubles.
>
> Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the
> document.
>
> > There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the
> > begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note
> > for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this
> > occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns.
>
> It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the
> problem.
>
> Günter
I will try, but I am not sure whether I can manage. It occurs apparently in 
cases where several citations follow each other and one of the citations  has 
to have some special feature where breaking in the pdf output is not 
possible. I might send you a longer part privately, if you don't mind

Wolfgang


Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde:
 On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
   I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find
   errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20
   for the 20 chapters)
 
  This is strange:
  I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error
  (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd).
 
  Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master
  document db0) it works.

 If run separately, the doc will use its own DocumentSettings, if the
 master is compiled, the childrens DocumentSettings are ignored.
 Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error.
I have used the same Documentsettings in all subdocuments,
but your proposal with an external file is much better and I will use it from 
now on. 
I guess it has to do with the aux file being used differently if I use the 
whole document (starting with the master docu) versus just a chapter sub-docu

  I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know
  already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs
  also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of
  using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the
  subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the
  case.
continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it 
can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place 
without giving troubles. There were two further references in front of it; 
moving it to the begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it 
in a note for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this 
occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. 

 The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary...

Fortunately I made a good mileage

  Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence
  from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages
  between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of
  include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea?

 I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However,
 compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have.

 To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are
 reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and
 write in the DocumentSettings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or
 \input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory).

   (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include?

 Input is correct.

 Günter

I appreciated your help and the one of others very much. 

Wolfgang


Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-30 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde:
 On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

 continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it 
 can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place 
 without giving troubles. 

Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the
document.

 There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the
 begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note
 for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this 
 occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns.

It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the
problem.

Günter



Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde:
 On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
   I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find
   errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20
   for the 20 chapters)
 
  This is strange:
  I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error
  (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd).
 
  Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master
  document db0) it works.

 If run separately, the doc will use its own DocumentSettings, if the
 master is compiled, the childrens DocumentSettings are ignored.
 Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error.
I have used the same Documentsettings in all subdocuments,
but your proposal with an external file is much better and I will use it from 
now on. 
I guess it has to do with the aux file being used differently if I use the 
whole document (starting with the master docu) versus just a chapter sub-docu

  I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know
  already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs
  also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of
  using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the
  subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the
  case.
continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it 
can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place 
without giving troubles. There were two further references in front of it; 
moving it to the begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it 
in a note for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this 
occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. 

 The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary...

Fortunately I made a good mileage

  Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence
  from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages
  between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of
  include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea?

 I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However,
 compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have.

 To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are
 reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and
 write in the DocumentSettings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or
 \input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory).

   (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include?

 Input is correct.

 Günter

I appreciated your help and the one of others very much. 

Wolfgang


Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-30 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde:
 On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

 continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it 
 can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place 
 without giving troubles. 

Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the
document.

 There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the
 begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note
 for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this 
 occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns.

It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the
problem.

Günter



Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde:
> On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> >> > I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find
> >> > errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20
> >> > for the 20 chapters)
> >
> > This is strange:
> > I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error
> > (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd).
> >
> > Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master
> > document db0) it works.
>
> If run separately, the doc will use its own Document>Settings, if the
> master is compiled, the childrens Document>Settings are ignored.
> Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error.
I have used the same Document>settings in all subdocuments,
but your proposal with an external file is much better and I will use it from 
now on. 
I guess it has to do with the aux file being used differently if I use the 
whole document (starting with the master docu) versus just a chapter sub-docu
>
> > I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know
> > already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs
> > also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of
> > using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the
> > subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the
> > case.
continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it 
can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place 
without giving troubles. There were two further references in front of it; 
moving it to the begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it 
in a note for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this 
occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns. 
>
> The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary...

Fortunately I made a good mileage
>
> > Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence
> > from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages
> > between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of
> > include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea?
>
> I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However,
> compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have.
>
> To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are
> reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and
> write in the Document>Settings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or
> \input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory).
>
> >> > (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include?
>
> Input is correct.
>
> Günter

I appreciated your help and the one of others very much. 

Wolfgang


Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-30 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-04-30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 21:40:41 schrieb Guenter Milde:
>> On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

> continuing this I found out that the error was due to a reference. But it 
> can't be the reference itself, since the same one is used at another place 
> without giving troubles. 

Maybe it is an error that only manifests itself at certain places in the
document.

> There were two further references in front of it; moving it to the
> begin of the three citations in a row did not help. I put it in a note
> for the time being until I find a solution. I remember that this 
> occurs apparently occassionaly in a koma-book-setting with two columns.

It would be nice if you could construct a minimal example showing the
problem.

Günter



Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 10:29:49 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 09:36:13 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
  I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find
  errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for
  the 20 chapters)
 
  As a first trial:
.
  (1) why does it not show db0 and db1?

 I managed to  get that right, sorry for bothering you

This is strange:
I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error 
(pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd).
Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document 
db0) it works. I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and 
know already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs 
also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of using 
this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the subdocument possible 
errors faster, but that is apparantly not the case. Since I have used 
separate chapters, there should be no influence from or to the appending 
chapters (in koma book there are empty pages between chapters).
Could it be related to the input/ instead of include- way of calling the 
subdirectories from the master???
Any idea?

Wolfgang

  (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include?

 still open question

  Wolfgang



-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325

---

-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325


Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-29 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find
  errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for
  the 20 chapters)

 This is strange:
 I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error 
 (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd).

 Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document 
 db0) it works. 

If run separately, the doc will use its own DocumentSettings, if the master
is compiled, the childrens DocumentSettings are ignored.
Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error.

 I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know
 already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs 
 also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of
 using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the
 subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the
 case. 

The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary...

 Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence
 from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages
 between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of
 include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea?

I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However,
compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have.

To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are
reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and
write in the DocumentSettings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or
\input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory).

  (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include?

Input is correct.

Günter



Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 10:29:49 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 09:36:13 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
  I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find
  errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for
  the 20 chapters)
 
  As a first trial:
.
  (1) why does it not show db0 and db1?

 I managed to  get that right, sorry for bothering you

This is strange:
I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error 
(pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd).
Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document 
db0) it works. I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and 
know already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs 
also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of using 
this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the subdocument possible 
errors faster, but that is apparantly not the case. Since I have used 
separate chapters, there should be no influence from or to the appending 
chapters (in koma book there are empty pages between chapters).
Could it be related to the input/ instead of include- way of calling the 
subdirectories from the master???
Any idea?

Wolfgang

  (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include?

 still open question

  Wolfgang



-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325

---

-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325


Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-29 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find
  errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for
  the 20 chapters)

 This is strange:
 I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error 
 (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd).

 Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document 
 db0) it works. 

If run separately, the doc will use its own DocumentSettings, if the master
is compiled, the childrens DocumentSettings are ignored.
Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error.

 I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know
 already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs 
 also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of
 using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the
 subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the
 case. 

The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary...

 Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence
 from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages
 between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of
 include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea?

I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However,
compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have.

To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are
reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and
write in the DocumentSettings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or
\input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory).

  (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include?

Input is correct.

Günter



Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 10:29:49 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> Am Wednesday 29 April 2009 09:36:13 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> > I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find
> > errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for
> > the 20 chapters)
> >
> > As a first trial:
.
> > (1) why does it not show db0 and db1?
>
> I managed to  get that right, sorry for bothering you

This is strange:
I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error 
(pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd).
Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document 
db0) it works. I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and 
know already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs 
also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of using 
this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the subdocument possible 
errors faster, but that is apparantly not the case. Since I have used 
separate chapters, there should be no influence from or to the appending 
chapters (in koma book there are empty pages between chapters).
Could it be related to the input/ instead of include- way of calling the 
subdirectories from the master???
Any idea?

Wolfgang
>
> > (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include?
>
> still open question
>
> > Wolfgang



-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325

---

-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325


Re: Fwd: Re: subdocuments

2009-04-29 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-04-29, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
>> > I am still struggling with a book document. To make it easier to find
>> > errors I tried to use 21 subdocuments (1 for the title and intro, 20 for
>> > the 20 chapters)

> This is strange:
> I found, that one of the chapters (in a subdocument) contains an error 
> (pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd).

> Now if I run this chapter separately (that is not using the master document 
> db0) it works. 

If run separately, the doc will use its own Document>Settings, if the master
is compiled, the childrens Document>Settings are ignored.
Maybe looking for the difference will reveal the source of the error.

> I have started to divide the chapter in two subdocuments, and know
> already the error is in the second one (and the second one alone runs 
> also without error), but do not understand the whole affair. My idea of
> using this subdocument bussiness was to be able to find in the
> subdocument possible errors faster, but that is apparantly not the
> case. 

The whole thing gets more complicated, so your mileage may vary...

> Since I have used separate chapters, there should be no influence
> from or to the appending chapters (in koma book there are empty pages
> between chapters). Could it be related to the input/ instead of
> include- way of calling the subdirectories from the master??? Any idea?

I don't think input vs. include will have an influence here. However,
compiling stand-alone chapters vs. the maste might have.

To make sure the custom LaTeX preamble is identic (and changes are
reflected in every chapter), I use an external file (preamble.tex) and
write in the Document>Settings:Preamble \input{preamble.tex} (or
\input{../preamble.tex} if the chapter is in a subdirectory).

>> > (2) Is input correct for the koma-book style or should I use include?

Input is correct.

Günter