Re: How to extend a standard layouts

2018-01-21 Thread racoon 

On 21.01.2018 00:13, Richard Heck wrote:

On 01/20/2018 11:30 AM, racoon wrote:

By default LyX loads standard layouts and insets. Is there a way to
extend them without overwriting the default .inc file and without
using a module?

Let's say I want to extend the standard Note style.

I don't want to use a module since I want to make a non-optional
change to the Note inset. For example, I want to use another font size
for all LyX notes.

If I understood correctly, I can just put a copy of the stdinset.inc
file from the library to the user directory. But this will have the
unwelcome effect to overwrite whatever is in the stdinset.inc in the
library directory. So, to avoid unwanted consequences, I will have to
update my user stdinset.inc every time the library stdinset.inc
changes, for example, in a new version of LyX.


I have run into this problem, too. Some form of it will arise any time
you want to emend or amend a layout file.

I wonder if a longer-term solution is required, then. Might there be
some way we could have 'extensions' of this kind? Maybe they could be
named things like stdinsets.inc.ext and they would always be loaded
after the corresponding other file was.


That sounds like a good solution to me. (And it could, in principle, be 
extended to other files: For every file where this seems reasonable, 
whether .inc, .module, etc., it is checked whether there is a file with 
the same name with the additional extension .ext and then loaded.)


Daniel

Re: How to extend a standard layouts

2018-01-20 Thread Richard Heck 
On 01/20/2018 11:30 AM, racoon wrote:
> By default LyX loads standard layouts and insets. Is there a way to
> extend them without overwriting the default .inc file and without
> using a module?
>
> Let's say I want to extend the standard Note style.
>
> I don't want to use a module since I want to make a non-optional
> change to the Note inset. For example, I want to use another font size
> for all LyX notes.
>
> If I understood correctly, I can just put a copy of the stdinset.inc
> file from the library to the user directory. But this will have the
> unwelcome effect to overwrite whatever is in the stdinset.inc in the
> library directory. So, to avoid unwanted consequences, I will have to
> update my user stdinset.inc every time the library stdinset.inc
> changes, for example, in a new version of LyX.

I have run into this problem, too. Some form of it will arise any time
you want to emend or amend a layout file.

I wonder if a longer-term solution is required, then. Might there be
some way we could have 'extensions' of this kind? Maybe they could be
named things like stdinsets.inc.ext and they would always be loaded
after the corresponding other file was.

Richard

Re: How to extend a standard layouts

2018-01-20 Thread Joel Kulesza 
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 2:58 PM, racoon  wrote:

> On 20.01.2018 19:22, Joel Kulesza wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:30 AM, racoon  xraco...@gmx.de>> wrote:
>>
>> By default LyX loads standard layouts and insets. Is there a way to
>> extend them without overwriting the default .inc file and without
>> using a module?
>>
>>
>> Would putting your changes into the Document's Local Layout (and
>> optionally saving as document defaults) be satisfactory?
>>
>
> Thanks. Right that is an option. But that is not ideal either. It would,
> for example, mean that I have to add it to all files I already created.
>

That's true.  However, the way I'd approach it (probably via module
inclusion) is to batch-edit the .lyx files from the command line to update
the already existing ones retroactively.

Re: How to extend a standard layouts

2018-01-20 Thread racoon 

On 20.01.2018 19:22, Joel Kulesza wrote:
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:30 AM, racoon > wrote:


By default LyX loads standard layouts and insets. Is there a way to
extend them without overwriting the default .inc file and without
using a module?


Would putting your changes into the Document's Local Layout (and 
optionally saving as document defaults) be satisfactory?


Thanks. Right that is an option. But that is not ideal either. It would, 
for example, mean that I have to add it to all files I already created.

Re: How to extend a standard layouts

2018-01-20 Thread Joel Kulesza 
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:30 AM, racoon  wrote:

> By default LyX loads standard layouts and insets. Is there a way to extend
> them without overwriting the default .inc file and without using a module?
>

Would putting your changes into the Document's Local Layout (and optionally
saving as document defaults) be satisfactory?

How to extend a standard layouts

2018-01-20 Thread racoon 
By default LyX loads standard layouts and insets. Is there a way to 
extend them without overwriting the default .inc file and without using 
a module?


Let's say I want to extend the standard Note style.

I don't want to use a module since I want to make a non-optional change 
to the Note inset. For example, I want to use another font size for all 
LyX notes.


If I understood correctly, I can just put a copy of the stdinset.inc 
file from the library to the user directory. But this will have the 
unwelcome effect to overwrite whatever is in the stdinset.inc in the 
library directory. So, to avoid unwanted consequences, I will have to 
update my user stdinset.inc every time the library stdinset.inc changes, 
for example, in a new version of LyX.


So I would rather like to *extend* the current library file by just the 
font-size changes by


InsetLayout Note:Note
CopyStyle Note
Font
SizeSmall
EndFont
End

So LyX should load the library's stdinset.inc first and then load the 
code that extends it next.


Is there currently a way to do this?

Daniel