Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[Rahayu Prihatin]

Thanks all, it is fixed now. That's true, just put latex symbol in it.

Cheer,

Rahayu


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu wrote:

 Rahayu Prihatin rahayu.p...@gmail.com írta:
 Hi all,I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported
 bibliography from endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and
 there are some symbols as well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those
 characters do not appear appropriately. How to fix it?
 Thanksgreeting,hayu
 

 Hello:

 It depends on the bibliography software you use.

 You can use bibtex, bibtex8 and biblatex.

 If you choose bibtex (that is my preference) you have to replace all
 special characters in your database to latex codes, eg. a\' for á, a\ for
 ä,
 \beta for Greek beta etc. In reality it is not necessary to replace all
 special characters,
 only those that will be included in the output. For example if you have
 abstracts in
 your database, and the abstracts won't be included in the bibliography,
 you don't have
 to replace special characters in the abstracts. The same applies to other
 fields.

 There are programs and scripts that can convert special characters in a
 file to
 latex code. Jabref bibliography manager also has such option.

 Bibtex8: I don't know how it works, I never used it.

 Biblatex supports utf8 and special characters.
 I found biblatex too complex. For me it's major disadvantage that I can not
 make a custom bibliography style file according to my liking (or need).
 The number of options for manipulating output is increasing but still you
 don't
 have a full control. For that one has to make a custom style file, but is
 is not
 easy, since biblatex scripting language is very complex.

 On the other hand making bibtex compatible style files with the help of the
 so called custom-bib program (makebst script) is much easier. These style
 files
 can be used with the natbib package. With a few exception you can make any
 type
 style file.

 Whichever you choose you will have to read the user manual for that
 package,
 that is, you have to spend some time to learn how to use it.

 bcsikos

Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[Rahayu Prihatin]

Thanks all, it is fixed now. That's true, just put latex symbol in it.

Cheer,

Rahayu


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu wrote:

 Rahayu Prihatin rahayu.p...@gmail.com írta:
 Hi all,I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported
 bibliography from endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and
 there are some symbols as well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those
 characters do not appear appropriately. How to fix it?
 Thanksgreeting,hayu
 

 Hello:

 It depends on the bibliography software you use.

 You can use bibtex, bibtex8 and biblatex.

 If you choose bibtex (that is my preference) you have to replace all
 special characters in your database to latex codes, eg. a\' for á, a\ for
 ä,
 \beta for Greek beta etc. In reality it is not necessary to replace all
 special characters,
 only those that will be included in the output. For example if you have
 abstracts in
 your database, and the abstracts won't be included in the bibliography,
 you don't have
 to replace special characters in the abstracts. The same applies to other
 fields.

 There are programs and scripts that can convert special characters in a
 file to
 latex code. Jabref bibliography manager also has such option.

 Bibtex8: I don't know how it works, I never used it.

 Biblatex supports utf8 and special characters.
 I found biblatex too complex. For me it's major disadvantage that I can not
 make a custom bibliography style file according to my liking (or need).
 The number of options for manipulating output is increasing but still you
 don't
 have a full control. For that one has to make a custom style file, but is
 is not
 easy, since biblatex scripting language is very complex.

 On the other hand making bibtex compatible style files with the help of the
 so called custom-bib program (makebst script) is much easier. These style
 files
 can be used with the natbib package. With a few exception you can make any
 type
 style file.

 Whichever you choose you will have to read the user manual for that
 package,
 that is, you have to spend some time to learn how to use it.

 bcsikos

Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[Rahayu Prihatin]

Thanks all, it is fixed now. That's true, just put latex symbol in it.

Cheer,

Rahayu


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Csikos Bela  wrote:

> Rahayu Prihatin  írta:
> >Hi all,I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported
> bibliography from >endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and
> there are some symbols as >well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those
> characters do not appear appropriately. How to >fix it?
> >Thanksgreeting,hayu
> >
>
> Hello:
>
> It depends on the bibliography software you use.
>
> You can use bibtex, bibtex8 and biblatex.
>
> If you choose bibtex (that is my preference) you have to replace all
> special characters in your database to latex codes, eg. a\' for á, a\" for
> ä,
> \beta for Greek beta etc. In reality it is not necessary to replace all
> special characters,
> only those that will be included in the output. For example if you have
> abstracts in
> your database, and the abstracts won't be included in the bibliography,
> you don't have
> to replace special characters in the abstracts. The same applies to other
> fields.
>
> There are programs and scripts that can convert special characters in a
> file to
> latex code. Jabref bibliography manager also has such option.
>
> Bibtex8: I don't know how it works, I never used it.
>
> Biblatex supports utf8 and special characters.
> I found biblatex too complex. For me it's major disadvantage that I can not
> make a custom bibliography style file according to my liking (or need).
> The number of options for manipulating output is increasing but still you
> don't
> have a full control. For that one has to make a custom style file, but is
> is not
> easy, since biblatex "scripting language" is very complex.
>
> On the other hand making bibtex compatible style files with the help of the
> so called custom-bib program (makebst script) is much easier. These style
> files
> can be used with the natbib package. With a few exception you can make any
> type
> style file.
>
> Whichever you choose you will have to read the user manual for that
> package,
> that is, you have to spend some time to learn how to use it.
>
> bcsikos
>
>

Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[John Kane]

Not sure but this link may give you some ideas about how to approach the 
problem.

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/77603

The major problem is that bibtex is fairly old and was created when ASCII 
symbols were basically what was used.

I think the biblatex solution is the best but I still use bibtex so I am not 
sure.





On Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:59:56 AM, Rahayu Prihatin 
rahayu.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Hi all,

I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported bibliography from 
endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and there are some symbols 
as well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those characters do not appear 
appropriately. How to fix it?

Thanks

greeting,

hayu

Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[stefano franchi]

On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:28 AM, John Kane jrkrid...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Not sure but this link may give you some ideas about how to approach the
 problem.

 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/77603

 The major problem is that bibtex is fairly old and was created when ASCII
 symbols were basically what was used.

 I think the biblatex solution is the best but I still use bibtex so I am
 not sure.




I actually switched to biblatex precisely for that problem. I was getting
tired of having to enter special latex code in bibliographies. It has
worked very well so far (a few years now).

Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[Csikos Bela]

Rahayu Prihatin rahayu.p...@gmail.com írta:
Hi all,I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported 
bibliography from endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and 
there are some symbols as well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those 
characters do not appear appropriately. How to fix it?
Thanksgreeting,hayu


Hello:

It depends on the bibliography software you use.

You can use bibtex, bibtex8 and biblatex.

If you choose bibtex (that is my preference) you have to replace all
special characters in your database to latex codes, eg. a\' for á, a\ for ä,
\beta for Greek beta etc. In reality it is not necessary to replace all special 
characters,
only those that will be included in the output. For example if you have 
abstracts in
your database, and the abstracts won't be included in the bibliography, you 
don't have
to replace special characters in the abstracts. The same applies to other 
fields.

There are programs and scripts that can convert special characters in a file to
latex code. Jabref bibliography manager also has such option.

Bibtex8: I don't know how it works, I never used it.

Biblatex supports utf8 and special characters.
I found biblatex too complex. For me it's major disadvantage that I can not
make a custom bibliography style file according to my liking (or need).
The number of options for manipulating output is increasing but still you don't
have a full control. For that one has to make a custom style file, but is is not
easy, since biblatex scripting language is very complex.

On the other hand making bibtex compatible style files with the help of the
so called custom-bib program (makebst script) is much easier. These style files
can be used with the natbib package. With a few exception you can make any type
style file.

Whichever you choose you will have to read the user manual for that package,
that is, you have to spend some time to learn how to use it.

bcsikos

Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[John Kane]

Not sure but this link may give you some ideas about how to approach the 
problem.

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/77603

The major problem is that bibtex is fairly old and was created when ASCII 
symbols were basically what was used.

I think the biblatex solution is the best but I still use bibtex so I am not 
sure.





On Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:59:56 AM, Rahayu Prihatin 
rahayu.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Hi all,

I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported bibliography from 
endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and there are some symbols 
as well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those characters do not appear 
appropriately. How to fix it?

Thanks

greeting,

hayu

Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[stefano franchi]

On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:28 AM, John Kane jrkrid...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Not sure but this link may give you some ideas about how to approach the
 problem.

 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/77603

 The major problem is that bibtex is fairly old and was created when ASCII
 symbols were basically what was used.

 I think the biblatex solution is the best but I still use bibtex so I am
 not sure.




I actually switched to biblatex precisely for that problem. I was getting
tired of having to enter special latex code in bibliographies. It has
worked very well so far (a few years now).

Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[Csikos Bela]

Rahayu Prihatin rahayu.p...@gmail.com írta:
Hi all,I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported 
bibliography from endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and 
there are some symbols as well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those 
characters do not appear appropriately. How to fix it?
Thanksgreeting,hayu


Hello:

It depends on the bibliography software you use.

You can use bibtex, bibtex8 and biblatex.

If you choose bibtex (that is my preference) you have to replace all
special characters in your database to latex codes, eg. a\' for á, a\ for ä,
\beta for Greek beta etc. In reality it is not necessary to replace all special 
characters,
only those that will be included in the output. For example if you have 
abstracts in
your database, and the abstracts won't be included in the bibliography, you 
don't have
to replace special characters in the abstracts. The same applies to other 
fields.

There are programs and scripts that can convert special characters in a file to
latex code. Jabref bibliography manager also has such option.

Bibtex8: I don't know how it works, I never used it.

Biblatex supports utf8 and special characters.
I found biblatex too complex. For me it's major disadvantage that I can not
make a custom bibliography style file according to my liking (or need).
The number of options for manipulating output is increasing but still you don't
have a full control. For that one has to make a custom style file, but is is not
easy, since biblatex scripting language is very complex.

On the other hand making bibtex compatible style files with the help of the
so called custom-bib program (makebst script) is much easier. These style files
can be used with the natbib package. With a few exception you can make any type
style file.

Whichever you choose you will have to read the user manual for that package,
that is, you have to spend some time to learn how to use it.

bcsikos

Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[John Kane]

Not sure but this link may give you some ideas about how to approach the 
problem.

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/77603

The major problem is that bibtex is fairly old and was created when ASCII 
symbols were basically what was used.

I think the biblatex solution is the best but I still use bibtex so I am not 
sure.





On Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:59:56 AM, Rahayu Prihatin 
 wrote:
 
Hi all,

I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported bibliography from 
endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and there are some symbols 
as well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those characters do not appear 
appropriately. How to fix it?

Thanks

greeting,

hayu

Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[stefano franchi]

On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:28 AM, John Kane  wrote:

> Not sure but this link may give you some ideas about how to approach the
> problem.
>
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/77603
>
> The major problem is that bibtex is fairly old and was created when ASCII
> symbols were basically what was used.
>
> I think the biblatex solution is the best but I still use bibtex so I am
> not sure.
>
>
>

I actually switched to biblatex precisely for that problem. I was getting
tired of having to enter special latex code in bibliographies. It has
worked very well so far (a few years now).

Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[Csikos Bela]

Rahayu Prihatin  írta:
>Hi all,I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported 
>bibliography from >endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and 
>there are some symbols as >well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those 
>characters do not appear appropriately. How to >fix it?
>Thanksgreeting,hayu
>

Hello:

It depends on the bibliography software you use.

You can use bibtex, bibtex8 and biblatex.

If you choose bibtex (that is my preference) you have to replace all
special characters in your database to latex codes, eg. a\' for á, a\" for ä,
\beta for Greek beta etc. In reality it is not necessary to replace all special 
characters,
only those that will be included in the output. For example if you have 
abstracts in
your database, and the abstracts won't be included in the bibliography, you 
don't have
to replace special characters in the abstracts. The same applies to other 
fields.

There are programs and scripts that can convert special characters in a file to
latex code. Jabref bibliography manager also has such option.

Bibtex8: I don't know how it works, I never used it.

Biblatex supports utf8 and special characters.
I found biblatex too complex. For me it's major disadvantage that I can not
make a custom bibliography style file according to my liking (or need).
The number of options for manipulating output is increasing but still you don't
have a full control. For that one has to make a custom style file, but is is not
easy, since biblatex "scripting language" is very complex.

On the other hand making bibtex compatible style files with the help of the
so called custom-bib program (makebst script) is much easier. These style files
can be used with the natbib package. With a few exception you can make any type
style file.

Whichever you choose you will have to read the user manual for that package,
that is, you have to spend some time to learn how to use it.

bcsikos

How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[Rahayu Prihatin]

Hi all,

I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported bibliography
from endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and there are
some symbols as well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those characters
do not appear appropriately. How to fix it?

Thanks

greeting,

hayu

How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[Rahayu Prihatin]

Hi all,

I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported bibliography
from endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and there are
some symbols as well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those characters
do not appear appropriately. How to fix it?

Thanks

greeting,

hayu

How to use symbol and germany characters in bibliography

[Rahayu Prihatin]

Hi all,

I am not an advanced user. Could somebody help me? I exported bibliography
from endnote, some of the authors have germany characters and there are
some symbols as well in the title. When I use it in LyX, those characters
do not appear appropriately. How to fix it?

Thanks

greeting,

hayu