Line spacing in author
Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. -- Rune author_spacing.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. -- Rune From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. -- Rune
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. -- Rune Ok. Then try this. /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug.
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug. Ok, now you're just being picky :-}. I don't think this is a bug, what you are trying to do is not standard LaTeX formatting within an author environment. Anyways, I seem to have fixed the bug by using ctrl-enter at the start of the next author rather than the end of the author. See the attached example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug. Ok, now you're just being picky :-}. I don't think this is a bug, what you are trying to do is not standard LaTeX formatting within an author environment. Anyways, I seem to have fixed the bug by using ctrl-enter at the start of the next author rather than the end of the author. See the attached example. Cheers, /Bob Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune I'm confused? It wasn't a workaround and neither LaTeX nor LyX is annoying. Also, there were no error messages because it wasn't an error, other than maybe user error. What we learned was the proper way of formatting the entries in LyX and hence LaTeX. LyX is nothing more than a gui frontend for LaTeX. Both LaTeX and LyX produce the exact same result. I've attached the example using ERT LaTeX commands to produce the exact same result as what we've done with native LyX commands, which are nothing more than a frontend to LaTeX commands. As you can see LyX and LaTeX output are identical. Example: When you insert ctrl-enter in LyX you are actually inserting \\ in the document. You can see this by using View-View Source that shows you how your document is being formatted as you enter things in the LyX WYSIWYG interface to LaTeX. Hope that helps explain things. You have to insert the proper syntax to get the proper output. Cheers, /Bob
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune I'm confused? It wasn't a workaround and neither LaTeX nor LyX is annoying. Also, there were no error messages because it wasn't an error, other than maybe user error. What we learned was the proper way of formatting the entries in LyX and hence LaTeX. LyX is nothing more than a gui frontend for LaTeX. Both LaTeX and LyX produce the exact same result. I've attached the example using ERT LaTeX commands to produce the exact same result as what we've done with native LyX commands, which are nothing more than a frontend to LaTeX commands. As you can see LyX and LaTeX output are identical. Example: When you insert ctrl-enter in LyX you are actually inserting \\ in the document. You can see this by using View-View Source that shows you how your document is being formatted as you enter things in the LyX WYSIWYG interface to LaTeX. Hope that helps explain things. You have to insert the proper syntax to get the proper output. Cheers, /Bob Sorry, forgot the attachment. author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: I agree there are usability issues, but once you play with the program more you get used to those and they transform from usability issues to LaTeX formatting guidelines :-}. Then you learn how to work with those guidelines. Hope you keep plugging away with LyX, it really is a great program. You misunderstood what kind of user I am. You don't need to convince me to use LyX. I have happily used LyX for my bachelor thesis, for various courses, and now for my masters thesis. LyX is a great addition to the LaTeX toolkit. However, I just think it could be better (which I'm sure 1.6 will be). And I still see the line spacing issue as a bug (maybe just rated as a feature request). -- Rune
Line spacing in author
Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. -- Rune author_spacing.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. -- Rune From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. -- Rune
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. -- Rune Ok. Then try this. /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug.
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug. Ok, now you're just being picky :-}. I don't think this is a bug, what you are trying to do is not standard LaTeX formatting within an author environment. Anyways, I seem to have fixed the bug by using ctrl-enter at the start of the next author rather than the end of the author. See the attached example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug. Ok, now you're just being picky :-}. I don't think this is a bug, what you are trying to do is not standard LaTeX formatting within an author environment. Anyways, I seem to have fixed the bug by using ctrl-enter at the start of the next author rather than the end of the author. See the attached example. Cheers, /Bob Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune I'm confused? It wasn't a workaround and neither LaTeX nor LyX is annoying. Also, there were no error messages because it wasn't an error, other than maybe user error. What we learned was the proper way of formatting the entries in LyX and hence LaTeX. LyX is nothing more than a gui frontend for LaTeX. Both LaTeX and LyX produce the exact same result. I've attached the example using ERT LaTeX commands to produce the exact same result as what we've done with native LyX commands, which are nothing more than a frontend to LaTeX commands. As you can see LyX and LaTeX output are identical. Example: When you insert ctrl-enter in LyX you are actually inserting \\ in the document. You can see this by using View-View Source that shows you how your document is being formatted as you enter things in the LyX WYSIWYG interface to LaTeX. Hope that helps explain things. You have to insert the proper syntax to get the proper output. Cheers, /Bob
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune I'm confused? It wasn't a workaround and neither LaTeX nor LyX is annoying. Also, there were no error messages because it wasn't an error, other than maybe user error. What we learned was the proper way of formatting the entries in LyX and hence LaTeX. LyX is nothing more than a gui frontend for LaTeX. Both LaTeX and LyX produce the exact same result. I've attached the example using ERT LaTeX commands to produce the exact same result as what we've done with native LyX commands, which are nothing more than a frontend to LaTeX commands. As you can see LyX and LaTeX output are identical. Example: When you insert ctrl-enter in LyX you are actually inserting \\ in the document. You can see this by using View-View Source that shows you how your document is being formatted as you enter things in the LyX WYSIWYG interface to LaTeX. Hope that helps explain things. You have to insert the proper syntax to get the proper output. Cheers, /Bob Sorry, forgot the attachment. author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: I agree there are usability issues, but once you play with the program more you get used to those and they transform from usability issues to LaTeX formatting guidelines :-}. Then you learn how to work with those guidelines. Hope you keep plugging away with LyX, it really is a great program. You misunderstood what kind of user I am. You don't need to convince me to use LyX. I have happily used LyX for my bachelor thesis, for various courses, and now for my masters thesis. LyX is a great addition to the LaTeX toolkit. However, I just think it could be better (which I'm sure 1.6 will be). And I still see the line spacing issue as a bug (maybe just rated as a feature request). -- Rune
Line spacing in author
Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. -- Rune author_spacing.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a > report). > Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line > spacing setting is ignored. > Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. > Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second > one, and no space is shown where the first one is. > > Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. > > -- > Rune > >From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl->enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl->enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. -- Rune
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob Lounsbury skrev: >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a >>> report). >>> Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line >>> spacing setting is ignored. >>> Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. >>> Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the >>> second >>> one, and no space is shown where the first one is. >>> >>> Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. >>> >>> >> >> From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, >> \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line >> breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl->enter seems to work better for >> me. I've attached an example. >> > > I did not know that about \and. > But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. > Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and > the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. > > -- > Rune > Ok. Then try this. /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl->enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug.
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob Lounsbury skrev: >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Bob Lounsbury skrev: >>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a >>>>> report). >>>>> Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the >>>>> line >>>>> spacing setting is ignored. >>>>> Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. >>>>> Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the >>>>> second >>>>> one, and no space is shown where the first one is. >>>>> >>>>> Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. >>>>> >>>> >>>> From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, >>>> \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line >>>> breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl->enter seems to work better for >>>> me. I've attached an example. >>>> >>> >>> I did not know that about \and. >>> But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. >>> Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, >>> and >>> the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. >>> >> >> Ok. Then try this. >> > > Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or > something. > I guess I should report it as a bug. > Ok, now you're just being picky :-}. I don't think this is a bug, what you are trying to do is not standard LaTeX formatting within an author environment. Anyways, I seem to have fixed the "bug" by using ctrl->enter at the start of the next author rather than the end of the author. See the attached example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl->enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug. Ok, now you're just being picky :-}. I don't think this is a bug, what you are trying to do is not standard LaTeX formatting within an author environment. Anyways, I seem to have fixed the "bug" by using ctrl->enter at the start of the next author rather than the end of the author. See the attached example. Cheers, /Bob Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice, the workaround seems to work. > Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than > Lyx. > And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much > sense, they rarely do. > > -- > Rune I'm confused? It wasn't a "workaround" and neither LaTeX nor LyX is "annoying". Also, there were no "error messages" because it wasn't an error, other than maybe "user error". What we learned was the proper way of formatting the entries in LyX and hence LaTeX. LyX is nothing more than a gui frontend for LaTeX. Both LaTeX and LyX produce the "exact" same result. I've attached the example using ERT LaTeX commands to produce the exact same result as what we've done with native LyX commands, which are nothing more than a frontend to LaTeX commands. As you can see LyX and LaTeX output are identical. Example: When you insert ctrl->enter in LyX you are actually inserting "\\" in the document. You can see this by using View->View Source that shows you how your document is being formatted as you enter things in the LyX "WYSIWYG" interface to LaTeX. Hope that helps explain things. You have to insert the proper syntax to get the proper output. Cheers, /Bob
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Nice, the workaround seems to work. >> Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than >> Lyx. >> And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much >> sense, they rarely do. >> >> -- >> Rune > > I'm confused? It wasn't a "workaround" and neither LaTeX nor LyX is > "annoying". Also, there were no "error messages" because it wasn't an > error, other than maybe "user error". > > What we learned was the proper way of formatting the entries in LyX > and hence LaTeX. LyX is nothing more than a gui frontend for LaTeX. > Both LaTeX and LyX produce the "exact" same result. > > I've attached the example using ERT LaTeX commands to produce the > exact same result as what we've done with native LyX commands, which > are nothing more than a frontend to LaTeX commands. As you can see LyX > and LaTeX output are identical. > > Example: > When you insert ctrl->enter in LyX you are actually inserting "\\" in > the document. You can see this by using View->View Source that shows > you how your document is being formatted as you enter things in the > LyX "WYSIWYG" interface to LaTeX. > > Hope that helps explain things. You have to insert the proper syntax > to get the proper output. > > Cheers, > /Bob > Sorry, forgot the attachment. author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: I agree there are usability issues, but once you play with the program more you get used to those and they transform from usability issues to LaTeX formatting guidelines :-}. Then you learn how to work with those guidelines. Hope you keep plugging away with LyX, it really is a great program. You misunderstood what kind of user I am. You don't need to convince me to use LyX. I have happily used LyX for my bachelor thesis, for various courses, and now for my masters thesis. LyX is a great addition to the LaTeX toolkit. However, I just think it could be better (which I'm sure 1.6 will be). And I still see the line spacing issue as a bug (maybe just rated as a feature request). -- Rune
