LyX 2.0.0 spell checker {KBD shortcut(s)}
Has anybody else experienced these keyboard shortcut issues with the
spellchecker sidebar on LyX 2.0???
Especially any one NOT using the binary found in the PCLinuxOS repository?
If it matters: I'm a ‘multi-boot’, ‘multi-Linux Distro’ user. And
I use whichever version of LyX is available from the repository of
whichever Linux system I'm currently using. I may be a bit too dependent on
the various package management systems on my installed distros but most of
the time this saves me a lot of dependency headaches.
At the moment the only one of my installed Linux that normal system
upgrades resulted in LyX 2.0.0 (April 29 2011) is my PCLinuxOS
installation. Thus I have no other LyX 2.0 to use to see if the keyboard
shortcut issues I've encountered are inherent in LyX 2.0.0, or {I do hope}
perhaps they stem from some modifications made by the PCLinuxOS package
maintainers.
I asked about these issues earlier and got some suggestions, but nobody
said that their LyX 2.0 had the same problem. Since most people nowadays
are more comfortable with using the mouse as a primary control interface,
it is quite possible that more LyX 2.0 users have these keyboard shortcut
issues than are aware of it. (simply because they click on the buttons
rather than typing in the keyboard shortcuts.)
The shortcut issues I'm having are:
1) The Alt+D on the Add button conflicts with the Document pull down menu.
To
actually add the word to the word list I MUST click on the button with the
mouse.
2) The Alt+I on the Ignore button conflicts with the Insert pull down menu.
Again I MUST click...
3) The Alt+F on the Find next button conflicts with the File pull down menu.
Again I MUST click...
3) There does not appear to be any way to use the keyboard to dismiss the
sidebars so that the document text can use the entire window/screen width.
To ditch the sidebar I MUST click on the little x marked button in the
upper right hand corner.
Note: I can disengage the sidebars focus with escape and edit the
document using only the approximately 2/3's of the screen/window width.
But I can't make the sidebar go away with the keyboard.
And I note: that this is so regardless of whether or not I've selected
the Spellcheck Continuously setting...
If anyone is experiencing symptoms like that with their copy of LyX...
Please tell me!
--
| ~^~ ~^~
| ? ? Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
| ^J(tWdy)P
|\___/ jtw...@ttlc.net
Re: LyX 2.0.0 spell checker {KBD shortcut(s)}
On 06/14/2011 11:52 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: I may be a bit too dependent on the various package management systems on my installed distros but most of the time this saves me a lot of dependency headaches. I don't think I would fault anyone for being dependent upon package management systems on a distro. I've been using debian since -- I have no idea how long --- and have found that the package management is now very, very good (it wasn't so smart at first), and it is very difficult to avoid difficulties if you oppose its wishes. I am also using 2.0.0, under debian testing (wheezy). The shortcut issues I'm having are: 1) The Alt+D on the Add button conflicts with the Document pull down menu. To actually add the word to the word list I MUST click on the button with the mouse. 2) The Alt+I on the Ignore button conflicts with the Insert pull down menu. Again I MUST click... 3) The Alt+F on the Find next button conflicts with the File pull down menu. Again I MUST click... I see these phenomena as well (I use gnome, but it seems that this is an issue about LyX that is independent of the window-manager). If you just right-click on the misspelled word when using continuous spellchecking (something I thought I would never do, but I do like it now), you do not get those keyboard shortcuts at all. Maybe they need to be removed from the spellchecker window, or changed to avoid the conflicts. This may also depend upon how you set up your LyX shortcuts. I use cua with a few additions (not conflicting with these commands). One thing to note is that, if the spellchecker window has the focus, you can use the shortcuts. But typically the focus would be on the main window, and since that gets the focus the shortcuts would go to its menu. So you have to use the mouse, no matter what, at least to shift the input focus to the spellchecker window. -- David L. Johnson Business! cried the Ghost. Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business! --Dickens, A Christmas Carol
Re: LyX 2.0.0 spell checker {KBD shortcut(s)}
It would appear that on Jun 14, David L. Johnson did say:
On 06/14/2011 11:52 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
I may be a bit too dependent on
the various package management systems on my installed distros but
most of the time this saves me a lot of dependency headaches.
I don't think I would fault anyone for being dependent upon package management
systems on a distro. I've been using debian since -- I have no idea how long
--- and have found that the package management is now very, very good (it
wasn't so smart at first), and it is very difficult to avoid difficulties if
you oppose its wishes.
I am also using 2.0.0, under debian testing (wheezy).
The shortcut issues I'm having are:
1) The Alt+D on the Add button conflicts with the Document pull
down menu. To actually add the word to the word list I MUST click on the
button with the mouse.
2) The Alt+I on the Ignore button conflicts with the Insert pull
down menu.
Again I MUST click...
3) The Alt+F on the Find next button conflicts with the File pull
down menu.
Again I MUST click...
I see these phenomena as well (I use gnome, but it seems that this is an issue
about LyX that is independent of the window-manager).
I'll by that, I'm using E17...
If you just right-click on the misspelled word when using continuous
spellchecking (something I thought I would never do, but I do like it now),
you do not get those keyboard shortcuts at all.
That's something I know I wouldn't learn to like. Not only do my fingers
quickly go numb when I start using the mouse a lot, But I sometimes have
difficulty controlling it accurately. I do a little better with my trackball
than a traditional mouse but as a control interface it still gives me much
aggravation.
Aside from which I would NOT want full time spellchecking. Anything that
instantly tells me a word is misspelled (even those stupid squiggly
underlines like they use in some word processors and web browsers, are
enough to make me lose track of the creative thought process when I'm
typing new content...
Maybe they need to be removed from the spellchecker window,
{whimper} If they remove them nobody will ever fix them and I don't wanna
be stuck with the mouse.
or changed to avoid the conflicts.
Now that's the ticket. But to avoid the conflict with Documents, the Add
button would have to either need to use a character NOT in it's label or
give it the Alt+A shortcut, which would mean the Replace All button
couldn't use the A anymore. And so on... A better solution would be
perhaps to force the focus to switch to the spell checker window when F7 is
pressed, and keep it there until (the escape key is pressed, the spell
checker window is closed, or a mouse click is made within the main window.
This may also depend upon how you set up your LyX shortcuts. I use cua with a
few additions (not conflicting with these commands).
Could you tell me how to add one to close the spellchecker. The sidebar
doesn't disappear upon the escape key any more. And while I can't remember
if undocking it so that it's once again a floating box that hides part of
the context goes away upon the esc key. But I surely noticed that undocking
it from being a sidebar stops the questionable words from getting
highlighted...
One thing to note is that, if the spellchecker window has the focus, you can
use the shortcuts. But typically the focus would be on the main window, and
since that gets the focus the shortcuts would go to its menu. So you have to
use the mouse, no matter what, at least to shift the input focus to the
spellchecker window.
{whimper}
--
| ~^~ ~^~
| * * Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
| ^J(tWdy)P
| \___/ jtw...@ttlc.net
LyX 2.0.0 spell checker {KBD shortcut(s)}
Has anybody else experienced these keyboard shortcut issues with the
spellchecker sidebar on LyX 2.0???
Especially any one NOT using the binary found in the PCLinuxOS repository?
If it matters: I'm a ‘multi-boot’, ‘multi-Linux Distro’ user. And
I use whichever version of LyX is available from the repository of
whichever Linux system I'm currently using. I may be a bit too dependent on
the various package management systems on my installed distros but most of
the time this saves me a lot of dependency headaches.
At the moment the only one of my installed Linux that normal system
upgrades resulted in LyX 2.0.0 (April 29 2011) is my PCLinuxOS
installation. Thus I have no other LyX 2.0 to use to see if the keyboard
shortcut issues I've encountered are inherent in LyX 2.0.0, or {I do hope}
perhaps they stem from some modifications made by the PCLinuxOS package
maintainers.
I asked about these issues earlier and got some suggestions, but nobody
said that their LyX 2.0 had the same problem. Since most people nowadays
are more comfortable with using the mouse as a primary control interface,
it is quite possible that more LyX 2.0 users have these keyboard shortcut
issues than are aware of it. (simply because they click on the buttons
rather than typing in the keyboard shortcuts.)
The shortcut issues I'm having are:
1) The Alt+D on the Add button conflicts with the Document pull down menu.
To
actually add the word to the word list I MUST click on the button with the
mouse.
2) The Alt+I on the Ignore button conflicts with the Insert pull down menu.
Again I MUST click...
3) The Alt+F on the Find next button conflicts with the File pull down menu.
Again I MUST click...
3) There does not appear to be any way to use the keyboard to dismiss the
sidebars so that the document text can use the entire window/screen width.
To ditch the sidebar I MUST click on the little x marked button in the
upper right hand corner.
Note: I can disengage the sidebars focus with escape and edit the
document using only the approximately 2/3's of the screen/window width.
But I can't make the sidebar go away with the keyboard.
And I note: that this is so regardless of whether or not I've selected
the Spellcheck Continuously setting...
If anyone is experiencing symptoms like that with their copy of LyX...
Please tell me!
--
| ~^~ ~^~
| ? ? Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
| ^J(tWdy)P
|\___/ jtw...@ttlc.net
Re: LyX 2.0.0 spell checker {KBD shortcut(s)}
On 06/14/2011 11:52 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: I may be a bit too dependent on the various package management systems on my installed distros but most of the time this saves me a lot of dependency headaches. I don't think I would fault anyone for being dependent upon package management systems on a distro. I've been using debian since -- I have no idea how long --- and have found that the package management is now very, very good (it wasn't so smart at first), and it is very difficult to avoid difficulties if you oppose its wishes. I am also using 2.0.0, under debian testing (wheezy). The shortcut issues I'm having are: 1) The Alt+D on the Add button conflicts with the Document pull down menu. To actually add the word to the word list I MUST click on the button with the mouse. 2) The Alt+I on the Ignore button conflicts with the Insert pull down menu. Again I MUST click... 3) The Alt+F on the Find next button conflicts with the File pull down menu. Again I MUST click... I see these phenomena as well (I use gnome, but it seems that this is an issue about LyX that is independent of the window-manager). If you just right-click on the misspelled word when using continuous spellchecking (something I thought I would never do, but I do like it now), you do not get those keyboard shortcuts at all. Maybe they need to be removed from the spellchecker window, or changed to avoid the conflicts. This may also depend upon how you set up your LyX shortcuts. I use cua with a few additions (not conflicting with these commands). One thing to note is that, if the spellchecker window has the focus, you can use the shortcuts. But typically the focus would be on the main window, and since that gets the focus the shortcuts would go to its menu. So you have to use the mouse, no matter what, at least to shift the input focus to the spellchecker window. -- David L. Johnson Business! cried the Ghost. Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business! --Dickens, A Christmas Carol
Re: LyX 2.0.0 spell checker {KBD shortcut(s)}
It would appear that on Jun 14, David L. Johnson did say:
On 06/14/2011 11:52 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
I may be a bit too dependent on
the various package management systems on my installed distros but
most of the time this saves me a lot of dependency headaches.
I don't think I would fault anyone for being dependent upon package management
systems on a distro. I've been using debian since -- I have no idea how long
--- and have found that the package management is now very, very good (it
wasn't so smart at first), and it is very difficult to avoid difficulties if
you oppose its wishes.
I am also using 2.0.0, under debian testing (wheezy).
The shortcut issues I'm having are:
1) The Alt+D on the Add button conflicts with the Document pull
down menu. To actually add the word to the word list I MUST click on the
button with the mouse.
2) The Alt+I on the Ignore button conflicts with the Insert pull
down menu.
Again I MUST click...
3) The Alt+F on the Find next button conflicts with the File pull
down menu.
Again I MUST click...
I see these phenomena as well (I use gnome, but it seems that this is an issue
about LyX that is independent of the window-manager).
I'll by that, I'm using E17...
If you just right-click on the misspelled word when using continuous
spellchecking (something I thought I would never do, but I do like it now),
you do not get those keyboard shortcuts at all.
That's something I know I wouldn't learn to like. Not only do my fingers
quickly go numb when I start using the mouse a lot, But I sometimes have
difficulty controlling it accurately. I do a little better with my trackball
than a traditional mouse but as a control interface it still gives me much
aggravation.
Aside from which I would NOT want full time spellchecking. Anything that
instantly tells me a word is misspelled (even those stupid squiggly
underlines like they use in some word processors and web browsers, are
enough to make me lose track of the creative thought process when I'm
typing new content...
Maybe they need to be removed from the spellchecker window,
{whimper} If they remove them nobody will ever fix them and I don't wanna
be stuck with the mouse.
or changed to avoid the conflicts.
Now that's the ticket. But to avoid the conflict with Documents, the Add
button would have to either need to use a character NOT in it's label or
give it the Alt+A shortcut, which would mean the Replace All button
couldn't use the A anymore. And so on... A better solution would be
perhaps to force the focus to switch to the spell checker window when F7 is
pressed, and keep it there until (the escape key is pressed, the spell
checker window is closed, or a mouse click is made within the main window.
This may also depend upon how you set up your LyX shortcuts. I use cua with a
few additions (not conflicting with these commands).
Could you tell me how to add one to close the spellchecker. The sidebar
doesn't disappear upon the escape key any more. And while I can't remember
if undocking it so that it's once again a floating box that hides part of
the context goes away upon the esc key. But I surely noticed that undocking
it from being a sidebar stops the questionable words from getting
highlighted...
One thing to note is that, if the spellchecker window has the focus, you can
use the shortcuts. But typically the focus would be on the main window, and
since that gets the focus the shortcuts would go to its menu. So you have to
use the mouse, no matter what, at least to shift the input focus to the
spellchecker window.
{whimper}
--
| ~^~ ~^~
| * * Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
| ^J(tWdy)P
| \___/ jtw...@ttlc.net
LyX 2.0.0 spell checker {KBD shortcut(s)}
Has anybody else experienced these keyboard shortcut issues with the
spellchecker sidebar on LyX 2.0???
Especially any one NOT using the binary found in the PCLinuxOS repository?
If it matters: I'm a ‘multi-boot’, ‘multi-Linux Distro’ user. And
I use whichever version of LyX is available from the repository of
whichever Linux system I'm currently using. I may be a bit too dependent on
the various package management systems on my installed distros but most of
the time this saves me a lot of dependency headaches.
At the moment the only one of my installed Linux that normal system
upgrades resulted in LyX 2.0.0 (April 29 2011) is my PCLinuxOS
installation. Thus I have no other LyX 2.0 to use to see if the keyboard
shortcut issues I've encountered are inherent in LyX 2.0.0, or {I do hope}
perhaps they stem from some modifications made by the PCLinuxOS package
maintainers.
I asked about these issues earlier and got some suggestions, but nobody
said that their LyX 2.0 had the same problem. Since most people nowadays
are more comfortable with using the mouse as a primary control interface,
it is quite possible that more LyX 2.0 users have these keyboard shortcut
issues than are aware of it. (simply because they "click" on the buttons
rather than typing in the keyboard shortcuts.)
The shortcut issues I'm having are:
1) The Alt+D on the "Add" button conflicts with the "Document" pull down menu.
To
actually add the word to the word list I MUST click on the button with the
mouse.
2) The Alt+I on the "Ignore" button conflicts with the "Insert" pull down menu.
Again I MUST click...
3) The Alt+F on the "Find next" button conflicts with the "File" pull down menu.
Again I MUST click...
3) There does not appear to be any way to use the keyboard to dismiss the
sidebars so that the document text can use the entire window/screen width.
To ditch the sidebar I MUST click on the little "x" marked button in the
upper right hand corner.
Note: I can disengage the sidebars focus with escape and edit the
document using only the approximately 2/3's of the screen/window width.
But I can't make the sidebar go away with the keyboard.
And I note: that this is so regardless of whether or not I've selected
the "Spellcheck Continuously" setting...
If anyone is experiencing symptoms like that with their copy of LyX...
Please tell me!
--
| ~^~ ~^~
|Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
| ^J(tWdy)P
|\___/ <>
Re: LyX 2.0.0 spell checker {KBD shortcut(s)}
On 06/14/2011 11:52 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > I may be a bit too dependent on > the various package management systems on my installed distros but most of > the time this saves me a lot of dependency headaches. I don't think I would fault anyone for being dependent upon package management systems on a distro. I've been using debian since -- I have no idea how long --- and have found that the package management is now very, very good (it wasn't so smart at first), and it is very difficult to avoid difficulties if you oppose its wishes. I am also using 2.0.0, under debian testing (wheezy). > The shortcut issues I'm having are: > > 1) The Alt+D on the "Add" button conflicts with the "Document" pull down menu. To > actually add the word to the word list I MUST click on the button with the mouse. > > 2) The Alt+I on the "Ignore" button conflicts with the "Insert" pull down menu. > Again I MUST click... > > 3) The Alt+F on the "Find next" button conflicts with the "File" pull down menu. > Again I MUST click... I see these phenomena as well (I use gnome, but it seems that this is an issue about LyX that is independent of the window-manager). If you just right-click on the misspelled word when using continuous spellchecking (something I thought I would never do, but I do like it now), you do not get those keyboard shortcuts at all. Maybe they need to be removed from the spellchecker window, or changed to avoid the conflicts. This may also depend upon how you set up your LyX shortcuts. I use cua with a few additions (not conflicting with these commands). One thing to note is that, if the spellchecker window has the focus, you can use the shortcuts. But typically the focus would be on the main window, and since that gets the focus the shortcuts would go to its menu. So you have to use the mouse, no matter what, at least to shift the input focus to the spellchecker window. -- David L. Johnson "Business!" cried the Ghost. "Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!" --Dickens, "A Christmas Carol"
Re: LyX 2.0.0 spell checker {KBD shortcut(s)}
It would appear that on Jun 14, David L. Johnson did say:
> On 06/14/2011 11:52 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
>
> > I may be a bit too dependent on
> > the various package management systems on my installed distros but
> > most of the time this saves me a lot of dependency headaches.
>
> I don't think I would fault anyone for being dependent upon package management
> systems on a distro. I've been using debian since -- I have no idea how long
> --- and have found that the package management is now very, very good (it
> wasn't so smart at first), and it is very difficult to avoid difficulties if
> you oppose its wishes.
>
> I am also using 2.0.0, under debian testing (wheezy).
>
> > The shortcut issues I'm having are:
> >
> > 1) The Alt+D on the "Add" button conflicts with the "Document" pull
> > down menu. To actually add the word to the word list I MUST click on the
> > button with the mouse.
> >
> > 2) The Alt+I on the "Ignore" button conflicts with the "Insert" pull
> > down menu.
> > Again I MUST click...
> >
> > 3) The Alt+F on the "Find next" button conflicts with the "File" pull
> > down menu.
> > Again I MUST click...
>
> I see these phenomena as well (I use gnome, but it seems that this is an issue
> about LyX that is independent of the window-manager).
I'll by that, I'm using E17...
> If you just right-click on the misspelled word when using continuous
> spellchecking (something I thought I would never do, but I do like it now),
> you do not get those keyboard shortcuts at all.
That's something I know I wouldn't learn to like. Not only do my fingers
quickly go numb when I start using the mouse a lot, But I sometimes have
difficulty controlling it accurately. I do a little better with my trackball
than a traditional mouse but as a control interface it still gives me much
aggravation.
Aside from which I would NOT want full time spellchecking. Anything that
instantly tells me a word is misspelled (even those stupid squiggly
underlines like they use in some word processors and web browsers, are
enough to make me lose track of the creative thought process when I'm
typing new content...
> Maybe they need to be removed from the spellchecker window,
{whimper} If they remove them nobody will ever fix them and I don't wanna
be stuck with the mouse.
> or changed to avoid the conflicts.
Now that's the ticket. But to avoid the conflict with Documents, the Add
button would have to either need to use a character NOT in it's label or
give it the Alt+A shortcut, which would mean the "Replace All" button
couldn't use the "A" anymore. And so on... A better solution would be
perhaps to force the focus to switch to the spell checker window when F7 is
pressed, and keep it there until (the escape key is pressed, the spell
checker window is closed, or a mouse click is made within the main window.
> This may also depend upon how you set up your LyX shortcuts. I use cua with a
> few additions (not conflicting with these commands).
Could you tell me how to add one to close the spellchecker. The sidebar
doesn't disappear upon the escape key any more. And while I can't remember
if undocking it so that it's once again a floating box that hides part of
the context goes away upon the esc key. But I surely noticed that undocking
it from being a sidebar stops the questionable words from getting
highlighted...
> One thing to note is that, if the spellchecker window has the focus, you can
> use the shortcuts. But typically the focus would be on the main window, and
> since that gets the focus the shortcuts would go to its menu. So you have to
> use the mouse, no matter what, at least to shift the input focus to the
> spellchecker window.
{whimper}
--
| ~^~ ~^~
| <*> <*> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
| ^J(tWdy)P
| \___/ <>
Re: LyX 2.0.0 spell checker {KBD shortcut(s)}
It would appear that on Jun 5, Vincent van Ravesteijn did say:
You can freely relocate the side-bar to your wishes.
WARNING: LyX seems to crash often when you do.
On 5-6-2011 16:23, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
Well if it wouldn't make it crash... I might prefer it took up some of my
vertical screen space (fewer lines per page) rather than taking up some of
my horizontal space (fewer words per line) But Not so much as to be worth
frequent crashes...
You can safely try it... if it succeeds, don't touch it again ;).
OK Now I think I understand you mean that sometimes LyX crashes while
relocating the sidebar rather than frequent crashes just using the
relocated sidebar... Perhaps I will try that then.
NOTE: I just booted into my PCLinuxOS installation where the LyX 2.0.0 is
installed to test this { the shortcuts below of course} And I'm not
sure I'm doing this right... But the only method I found to move
this was to click on a small button labeled with a circular symbol
{perhaps an o} that's next to the little x marked button that
would close it. This appears to undock and redock the sidebar so
that it's more like the old pop-up that liked to hide the context.
Once ‘undocked’ I can drag it around and/or re-size it with the mouse.
But when I attempt to use it in the undocked state it not only
tends to hide the context of the word in question, But on the main
text window the suspect word doesn't even get hi-lighted like it does
when this spellchecker is ‘docked’ as a sidebar. So moving it does
little to help me spot the context I need to review...
Besides relocating it isn't the problem. I just want the keyboard shortcuts
to work right and especially to be able to dismiss the durned thing with the
keyboard, when I'm done spellchecking...
Crtl+Shift+F should hide the pane again. Just like pressing Alt-x twice.
Well That I will try... If it works it will go a long way to making me
comfortable with the new spellchecker interface.
Unfortunately this didn't work. The Ctrl+Shift+F shortcut calls up another
sidebar with some find sidebar. And Alt-x is a toggle for a command line box
of some kind. At least that's what it does when the spellchecker sidebar
doesn't have the focus... Funny how the spellchecker can stop Alt-x from
calling up said command input box. But it doesn't stop the ‘File’, ‘Insert’,
and ‘Document’ pull down menus from messing with the ‘Find Next’, ‘Ignore’,
‘Add’ buttons???
Since to me the mouse in an uncomfortable, non-intuitive, sometimes
problematical control interface I really detest having to resort to it every
time I need to ADD, or IGNORE a word. Not to mention close the spell checker
dialog... At least I don't have much use for the ‘Find Next’ button or I'm
sure that shortcut conflict would bother me as well.
Thanks anyway...
Gosh! I surely do hope these shortcut problems are due to some modification
made only in the version of 2.0.0 found in the PCLinuxOS repository. Please
tell me that's the problem. Cause once v2.0.0 trickles it's way through Arch
Linux and Ubuntu, I won''t have a lot of choice about upgrading to it...
--
|^^^ ^^^
|o o Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|^ J(tWdy)P
| ___ jtw...@ttlc.net
| ' `
Re: LyX 2.0.0 spell checker {KBD shortcut(s)}
It would appear that on Jun 5, Vincent van Ravesteijn did say:
You can freely relocate the side-bar to your wishes.
WARNING: LyX seems to crash often when you do.
On 5-6-2011 16:23, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
Well if it wouldn't make it crash... I might prefer it took up some of my
vertical screen space (fewer lines per page) rather than taking up some of
my horizontal space (fewer words per line) But Not so much as to be worth
frequent crashes...
You can safely try it... if it succeeds, don't touch it again ;).
OK Now I think I understand you mean that sometimes LyX crashes while
relocating the sidebar rather than frequent crashes just using the
relocated sidebar... Perhaps I will try that then.
NOTE: I just booted into my PCLinuxOS installation where the LyX 2.0.0 is
installed to test this { the shortcuts below of course} And I'm not
sure I'm doing this right... But the only method I found to move
this was to click on a small button labeled with a circular symbol
{perhaps an o} that's next to the little x marked button that
would close it. This appears to undock and redock the sidebar so
that it's more like the old pop-up that liked to hide the context.
Once ‘undocked’ I can drag it around and/or re-size it with the mouse.
But when I attempt to use it in the undocked state it not only
tends to hide the context of the word in question, But on the main
text window the suspect word doesn't even get hi-lighted like it does
when this spellchecker is ‘docked’ as a sidebar. So moving it does
little to help me spot the context I need to review...
Besides relocating it isn't the problem. I just want the keyboard shortcuts
to work right and especially to be able to dismiss the durned thing with the
keyboard, when I'm done spellchecking...
Crtl+Shift+F should hide the pane again. Just like pressing Alt-x twice.
Well That I will try... If it works it will go a long way to making me
comfortable with the new spellchecker interface.
Unfortunately this didn't work. The Ctrl+Shift+F shortcut calls up another
sidebar with some find sidebar. And Alt-x is a toggle for a command line box
of some kind. At least that's what it does when the spellchecker sidebar
doesn't have the focus... Funny how the spellchecker can stop Alt-x from
calling up said command input box. But it doesn't stop the ‘File’, ‘Insert’,
and ‘Document’ pull down menus from messing with the ‘Find Next’, ‘Ignore’,
‘Add’ buttons???
Since to me the mouse in an uncomfortable, non-intuitive, sometimes
problematical control interface I really detest having to resort to it every
time I need to ADD, or IGNORE a word. Not to mention close the spell checker
dialog... At least I don't have much use for the ‘Find Next’ button or I'm
sure that shortcut conflict would bother me as well.
Thanks anyway...
Gosh! I surely do hope these shortcut problems are due to some modification
made only in the version of 2.0.0 found in the PCLinuxOS repository. Please
tell me that's the problem. Cause once v2.0.0 trickles it's way through Arch
Linux and Ubuntu, I won''t have a lot of choice about upgrading to it...
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|^ J(tWdy)P
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Re: LyX 2.0.0 spell checker & {KBD shortcut(s)}
It would appear that on Jun 5, Vincent van Ravesteijn did say:
> You can freely relocate the side-bar to your wishes.
>
> WARNING: LyX seems to crash often when you do.
>
> On 5-6-2011 16:23, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> >
> > Well if it wouldn't make it crash... I might prefer it took up some of my
> > vertical screen space (fewer lines per page) rather than taking up some of
> > my horizontal space (fewer words per line) But Not so much as to be worth
> > frequent crashes...
>
> You can safely try it... if it succeeds, don't touch it again ;).
>
OK Now I think I understand you mean that sometimes LyX crashes while
relocating the sidebar rather than frequent crashes just using the
relocated sidebar... Perhaps I will try that then.
NOTE: I just booted into my PCLinuxOS installation where the LyX 2.0.0 is
installed to test this {& the shortcuts below of course} And I'm not
sure I'm doing this right... But the only method I found to move
this was to click on a small button labeled with a circular symbol
{perhaps an "o"} that's next to the little "x" marked button that
would close it. This appears to undock and redock the sidebar so
that it's more like the old pop-up that liked to hide the context.
Once ‘undocked’ I can drag it around and/or re-size it with the mouse.
But when I attempt to use it in the undocked state it not only
tends to hide the context of the word in question, But on the main
text window the suspect word doesn't even get hi-lighted like it does
when this spellchecker is ‘docked’ as a sidebar. So moving it does
little to help me spot the context I need to review...
> > Besides relocating it isn't the problem. I just want the keyboard shortcuts
> > to work right and especially to be able to dismiss the durned thing with the
> > keyboard, when I'm done spellchecking...
>
> Crtl+Shift+F should hide the pane again. Just like pressing Alt-x twice.
Well That I will try... If it works it will go a long way to making me
comfortable with the new spellchecker interface.
Unfortunately this didn't work. The Ctrl+Shift+F shortcut calls up another
sidebar with some find sidebar. And Alt-x is a toggle for a command line box
of some kind. At least that's what it does when the spellchecker sidebar
doesn't have the focus... Funny how the spellchecker can stop Alt-x from
calling up said command input box. But it doesn't stop the ‘File’, ‘Insert’,
and ‘Document’ pull down menus from messing with the ‘Find Next’, ‘Ignore’, &
‘Add’ buttons???
Since to me the mouse in an uncomfortable, non-intuitive, & sometimes
problematical control interface I really detest having to resort to it every
time I need to ADD, or IGNORE a word. Not to mention close the spell checker
dialog... At least I don't have much use for the ‘Find Next’ button or I'm
sure that shortcut conflict would bother me as well.
Thanks anyway...
Gosh! I surely do hope these shortcut problems are due to some modification
made only in the version of 2.0.0 found in the PCLinuxOS repository. Please
tell me that's the problem. Cause once v2.0.0 trickles it's way through Arch
Linux and Ubuntu, I won''t have a lot of choice about upgrading to it...
--
|^^^ ^^^
| Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|^ J(tWdy)P
| ___ <>
| ' `
