Re: Lyx compile corrupt OpenDocument documents
> > I know of cases where journals demanded .doc format, only to convert back > to latex to actually typset the article. But authors are often powerless to > "fight city hall".] I told that to some Elsevier journal's editor, who asked me for a DOC version instead of LaTeX, and he couldn't believe it. - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:57 PM, David A Case wrote: > On 09/16/2011 11:27 AM, Kalisch Dominik P.H. wrote: >> > >> >I need to export my >> >document, with a heavy use of formulasm tables and images, to word. > > I also need to do this, primarily for scientific journals that accept only > ".doc" files (i.e. the older Word format). At least in my field (chemistry > and biology), there are a lot of journals like this. > > I've tried exporting to html (by several methods), then importing the html > into Microsoft Word. This can work pretty well for text and tables, > moderately well for bibliographic citations (depends a lot on what bib style > files you use) and for figure captions (the figures themselves are expected > by the journals I use to be in separate files anyway). Simple equations can > be OK, but complex equations are sure to fail. You can use either elyxer > (with the --html flag) or the export to html (not xhtml) native to Lyx 2.0. > Note that any limitations are *not* the fault of html converters (which work > remarkably well for their intended purpose), but are the result of limitations > in Word's ability to take html as an input format. > > For equations, the only thing I've found that "almost" works is tex2word > (just Google it). This is a commercial program that only runs on Windows, > but fills a real need for me, so much so that I have a virtual Windows > machine that I use pretty much just for that purpose. The program is > limited (it doesn't recognize all latex packages, and you often have to > manually tweak the latex file you give it), but the support staff is > quite helpful and nothing else [that I have tried] comes close if you > have lots of equations. (You do also need to have MathType, which means > yet more money.) One thing missing from tex2word, but promised "soon", is > natbib support. Also, tables are far from perfect -- I've gone to the > trouble of converting tables via html, and the rest of a manuscript via > tex2wordsigh. > > [The "pain" is that, almost inevitably, the equations are going to manually > re-typeset by the publisher anyway, so a difficult (and error-prone) > conversion to .doc is just a waste of everyone's time. I know of cases where > journals demanded .doc format, only to convert back to latex to actually > typset the article. But authors are often powerless to "fight city hall".] > > ...just my conclusions based in limited experience, but maybe it will help. > > ...dave case > >
Re: Lyx compile corrupt OpenDocument documents
On 09/16/2011 11:27 AM, Kalisch Dominik P.H. wrote: > > > >I need to export my > >document, with a heavy use of formulasm tables and images, to word. I also need to do this, primarily for scientific journals that accept only ".doc" files (i.e. the older Word format). At least in my field (chemistry and biology), there are a lot of journals like this. I've tried exporting to html (by several methods), then importing the html into Microsoft Word. This can work pretty well for text and tables, moderately well for bibliographic citations (depends a lot on what bib style files you use) and for figure captions (the figures themselves are expected by the journals I use to be in separate files anyway). Simple equations can be OK, but complex equations are sure to fail. You can use either elyxer (with the --html flag) or the export to html (not xhtml) native to Lyx 2.0. Note that any limitations are *not* the fault of html converters (which work remarkably well for their intended purpose), but are the result of limitations in Word's ability to take html as an input format. For equations, the only thing I've found that "almost" works is tex2word (just Google it). This is a commercial program that only runs on Windows, but fills a real need for me, so much so that I have a virtual Windows machine that I use pretty much just for that purpose. The program is limited (it doesn't recognize all latex packages, and you often have to manually tweak the latex file you give it), but the support staff is quite helpful and nothing else [that I have tried] comes close if you have lots of equations. (You do also need to have MathType, which means yet more money.) One thing missing from tex2word, but promised "soon", is natbib support. Also, tables are far from perfect -- I've gone to the trouble of converting tables via html, and the rest of a manuscript via tex2wordsigh. [The "pain" is that, almost inevitably, the equations are going to manually re-typeset by the publisher anyway, so a difficult (and error-prone) conversion to .doc is just a waste of everyone's time. I know of cases where journals demanded .doc format, only to convert back to latex to actually typset the article. But authors are often powerless to "fight city hall".] ...just my conclusions based in limited experience, but maybe it will help. ...dave case
Re: Lyx compile corrupt OpenDocument documents
Thanks for your replies so far. I figured out, that the problem is the ctable... Does anyone has a solution for converting ctables? An image would be ok... Dominik On 16.09.2011, at 18:17, Richard Heck wrote: > On 09/16/2011 11:27 AM, Kalisch Dominik P.H. wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have a problem with the OpenDocument support. I need to export my >> document, with a heavy use of formulasm tables and images, to word. Because >> there is no direct export function to word, I thought I can export that file >> to OpenDocument, open it with OpenOffice and save it as a word document. But >> the export function just produces a corrupt ODF file. >> Does anyone have a good suggestion, besides write my text in Word? >> > The oolatex converter doesn't do a very good job with complex documents. > There are other routes you can try, e.g., exporting to HTML and importing > that into OOo. If you use the LyXHTML export with MathML, that may preserve > your formluae. I don't know. Yet another option is to export to RTF, using > the latex2rtf converter, but that probably won't do much with formulae. > > Richard >
Re: Lyx compile corrupt OpenDocument documents
I think that my memory is failing me at least for the second point, I have started my NeoOffice and it does not seem to be able to import Latex files, strange... I was probably confused between this and the conversion in the other direction (Writer2Latex extension does it) I am quite sure about my tests for the first point... 2011/9/16 Murat Yildizoglu : > If I remember well, I had some success with oolatex by exporting the > file latex and than executing in a terminal : > > mk4ht oolatex myfile.tex > > There is also a plugin for OpenOffice that can import latex if I > remember correctly (I do not use OOffice very frequently). > > 2011/9/16 Julio Rojas : >> Welcome to hell!!! Sorry Dominik, but this is one feature LyX really >> lacks. Check the wiki: >> >> http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/ImportExport#word >> >> And this thread: >> http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=8779 >> >> Short story, export the text only and do everything else (formulas, >> plots, margins, even citations/bibliography) directly in >> Word/OpenOffice. >> >> Regards. >> - >> Julio Rojas >> jcredbe...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Kalisch Dominik P.H. >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a problem with the OpenDocument support. I need to export my >>> document, with a heavy use of formulasm tables and images, to word. Because >>> there is no direct export function to word, I thought I can export that >>> file to OpenDocument, open it with OpenOffice and save it as a word >>> document. But the export function just produces a corrupt ODF file. >>> Does anyone have a good suggestion, besides write my text in Word? >>> >>> Thanks a lot for your help. >>> Dominik >> > > > > -- > Prof. Murat Yildizoglu > Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV > GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113) > Avenue Léon Duguit > 33608 Pessac cedex > France > > yi...@u-bordeaux4.fr > http://yildizoglu.info > http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu > -- Prof. Murat Yildizoglu Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113) Avenue Léon Duguit 33608 Pessac cedex France yi...@u-bordeaux4.fr http://yildizoglu.info http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu
Re: Lyx compile corrupt OpenDocument documents
If I remember well, I had some success with oolatex by exporting the file latex and than executing in a terminal : mk4ht oolatex myfile.tex There is also a plugin for OpenOffice that can import latex if I remember correctly (I do not use OOffice very frequently). 2011/9/16 Julio Rojas : > Welcome to hell!!! Sorry Dominik, but this is one feature LyX really > lacks. Check the wiki: > > http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/ImportExport#word > > And this thread: > http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=8779 > > Short story, export the text only and do everything else (formulas, > plots, margins, even citations/bibliography) directly in > Word/OpenOffice. > > Regards. > - > Julio Rojas > jcredbe...@gmail.com > > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Kalisch Dominik P.H. > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have a problem with the OpenDocument support. I need to export my >> document, with a heavy use of formulasm tables and images, to word. Because >> there is no direct export function to word, I thought I can export that file >> to OpenDocument, open it with OpenOffice and save it as a word document. But >> the export function just produces a corrupt ODF file. >> Does anyone have a good suggestion, besides write my text in Word? >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> Dominik > -- Prof. Murat Yildizoglu Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113) Avenue Léon Duguit 33608 Pessac cedex France yi...@u-bordeaux4.fr http://yildizoglu.info http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu
Re: Lyx compile corrupt OpenDocument documents
On 09/16/2011 11:27 AM, Kalisch Dominik P.H. wrote: Hi, I have a problem with the OpenDocument support. I need to export my document, with a heavy use of formulasm tables and images, to word. Because there is no direct export function to word, I thought I can export that file to OpenDocument, open it with OpenOffice and save it as a word document. But the export function just produces a corrupt ODF file. Does anyone have a good suggestion, besides write my text in Word? The oolatex converter doesn't do a very good job with complex documents. There are other routes you can try, e.g., exporting to HTML and importing that into OOo. If you use the LyXHTML export with MathML, that may preserve your formluae. I don't know. Yet another option is to export to RTF, using the latex2rtf converter, but that probably won't do much with formulae. Richard
Re: Lyx compile corrupt OpenDocument documents
Welcome to hell!!! Sorry Dominik, but this is one feature LyX really lacks. Check the wiki: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/ImportExport#word And this thread: http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=8779 Short story, export the text only and do everything else (formulas, plots, margins, even citations/bibliography) directly in Word/OpenOffice. Regards. - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Kalisch Dominik P.H. wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem with the OpenDocument support. I need to export my document, > with a heavy use of formulasm tables and images, to word. Because there is no > direct export function to word, I thought I can export that file to > OpenDocument, open it with OpenOffice and save it as a word document. But the > export function just produces a corrupt ODF file. > Does anyone have a good suggestion, besides write my text in Word? > > Thanks a lot for your help. > Dominik
Lyx compile corrupt OpenDocument documents
Hi, I have a problem with the OpenDocument support. I need to export my document, with a heavy use of formulasm tables and images, to word. Because there is no direct export function to word, I thought I can export that file to OpenDocument, open it with OpenOffice and save it as a word document. But the export function just produces a corrupt ODF file. Does anyone have a good suggestion, besides write my text in Word? Thanks a lot for your help. Dominik