Re: Prob installing latex-ttf...(sorry, question was discussed already)

2003-07-20 Thread James Philp
Thanks to everyone who replied. In the end the only
way to install fontfig under SuSE/XD2 was with rpm
--nodeps --force. It seems to work.

j.
--- John Sheahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Installation of fontconfig is mostly a distribution
> issue - not a 
> lyx issue.  You neglected to mention your
> distibution.
> 
> For me - works happily under both redhet 8 and 9.
>  
> distribution-specific instructions would be
> unfortunate 
> and work to maintain , but I don't see a lot of
> options.
> 
> In Ximians' case - as a specialist GUI kind-of
> provider, 
> requesting to Ximian to add lyx to their packages
> could 
> be one way..
> john
>   
> 
> On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 20:44, James Philp wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I realize that this is alrady becoming an
> irritation
> > for some on the list but it is not at all clear
> how to
> > get the math fonts to work.
> > 
> > Reading through the archive you get the same
> answers
> > over and over again, but they don't work (at least
> for
> > me).
> > 
> > 1. install the fonts : needs fontconfig
> > 2. install fontconfig : red carpet won't do it.
> > 3. tried everything possible to install from
> source
> > fails for both qt and xforms
> > 
> > The fact that so many people have difficulties
> with
> > this shouldn't irritate others on the list. And
> > perhaps someone might then even suggest a real
> > solution to the problem.
> 
> 


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Re: Prob installing latex-ttf...(sorry, question was discussed already)

2003-07-18 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2003-07-17, 16:21 GMT, Heiko Schröder wrote:
> Uff. Again the same question: why is Linux so fascinating since installing of 
> packages can be so very, very difficult and can take you whole days to get 
> things done? It is really a phaenomenon. Indeed.

Since the commercial distributions (RedHat, Suse, to name few) have very
limited resources to maintain properly all packages developed for their
distribution and they concentrate on the most profitable ones (hint:
desktop is not the most profitable part of Linux business). I have no
religious belief about GPL, but I find Debian much better maintained in
this respect.

Matej

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Re: Prob installing latex-ttf...(sorry, question was discussed already)

2003-07-18 Thread Angus Leeming
Angus Leeming wrote:
> Xft:
> - Works only with the ttf fonts
> - Font should be installed on the remote machine (ie the machine
> controlling your screen display. If this is the same as the machine
> running LyX, well and good.)

Oops, the remote machine is the one running LyX of course.




Re: Prob installing latex-ttf...(sorry, question was discussed already)

2003-07-18 Thread Angus Leeming
James Philp wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I realize that this is alrady becoming an irritation
> for some on the list but it is not at all clear how to
> get the math fonts to work.
> 
> Reading through the archive you get the same answers
> over and over again, but they don't work (at least for
> me).
> 
> 1. install the fonts : needs fontconfig
> 2. install fontconfig : red carpet won't do it.
> 3. tried everything possible to install from source
> fails for both qt and xforms
> 
> The fact that so many people have difficulties with
> this shouldn't irritate others on the list. And
> perhaps someone might then even suggest a real
> solution to the problem.

You don't need fontconfig. I occasionally run LyX on a Dec Alpha running 
Tru64 unix and it most certainly does not use fontconfig.

What you do depends on whether LyX uses X11 XFT extension (only the QT 
frontend can use XFT, assuming that you have an XFT enables version of QT).

To check, type
$ ldd ${PATH_TO_YOUR_LYX_EXECUTABLE)/lyx

Here, my Qt version of LyX returns
libXft.so.2 => /usr/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x40a07000)
The xforms version does not.

Xft:
- Works only with the ttf fonts
- Font should be installed on the remote machine (ie the machine controlling 
your screen display. If this is the same as the machine running LyX, well 
and good.)
- Works only if the local X server supports the RENDER extension
(check with 'xdpyinfo|grep -i render'), although I think that with future
versions of xft, this restriction will be removed.

non Xft:
- Works with the pfb fonts from latex (should also work with the ttf fonts)
- Fonts should be installed on the local machine, and the X server should
support Postscript fonts.

In the latter case only, you will need to add the path to the math fonts to 
the font path using 'xset'.

$ xset -q
will display your current font path

$ xset +fp ${PATH_TO_YOUR_MATH_FONTS} 
will prepend this path to the list.

$ xset -fp ${PATH_TO_YOUR_MATH_FONTS}
will append it.

Does this help any?
Angus




Re: Prob installing latex-ttf...(sorry, question was discussed already)

2003-07-18 Thread James Philp
Hello,

I realize that this is alrady becoming an irritation
for some on the list but it is not at all clear how to
get the math fonts to work.

Reading through the archive you get the same answers
over and over again, but they don't work (at least for
me).

1. install the fonts : needs fontconfig
2. install fontconfig : red carpet won't do it.
3. tried everything possible to install from source
fails for both qt and xforms

The fact that so many people have difficulties with
this shouldn't irritate others on the list. And
perhaps someone might then even suggest a real
solution to the problem.

best, j.
--- Heiko Schröder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry,
> 
> I just found, although searching for information
> without any results, that the 
> same question was just discussed by Jeremy Reed on
> 16 th of June. 
> 
> Although installing the package with rpm -iv
> --nodeps  is a solution which 
> causes some headache, because it *is* definetely not
> a clean way.
> 
> Uff. Again the same question: why is Linux so
> fascinating since installing of 
> packages can be so very, very difficult and can take
> you whole days to get 
> things done? It is really a phaenomenon. Indeed.
> 
> Best regards 
> Heiko
> -- 
> Heiko Schröder
> Ahrensburg, Germany
> http://home.foni.net/~heikos


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Re: Prob installing latex-ttf...(sorry, question was discussed already)

2003-07-18 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 06:21:12PM +0200, Heiko Schröder wrote:
> Uff. Again the same question: why is Linux so fascinating since installing of 
> packages can be so very, very difficult and can take you whole days to get 
> things done?

Because you get it done if you keep pushing.

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Re: Prob installing latex-ttf...(sorry, question was discussed already)

2003-07-17 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 06:21:12PM +0200, Heiko Schr?der wrote:

> Uff. Again the same question: why is Linux so fascinating since installing of 
> packages can be so very, very difficult and can take you whole days to get 
> things done? It is really a phaenomenon. Indeed.

It's not my problem if your distribution is bogus and claims fontconfig
is not installed when it blatantly is.

john


Prob installing latex-ttf...(sorry, question was discussed already)

2003-07-17 Thread Heiko Schröder
Sorry,

I just found, although searching for information without any results, that the 
same question was just discussed by Jeremy Reed on 16 th of June. 

Although installing the package with rpm -iv --nodeps  is a solution which 
causes some headache, because it *is* definetely not a clean way.

Uff. Again the same question: why is Linux so fascinating since installing of 
packages can be so very, very difficult and can take you whole days to get 
things done? It is really a phaenomenon. Indeed.

Best regards 
Heiko
-- 
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Ahrensburg, Germany
http://home.foni.net/~heikos