RE: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Alexander Wollmann


Am 25-Apr-99 schrieb Berkun Culha:
 Hi,
 
 I am wondering if there is way to stop them from 'floating' all around.
 
 What I want to do:
 I have several statements itemized and each one is followed by a screenshot
 (approx. 11x7cm). (figure floats - I need the caption). 
 
 What happens:
 First page float1 and itemized text
 second page float2 and itemized text
 3rd-15th pages full of floats cross-referenced from the first 2 pages.
 
 What I have tried:
 Global placement parameters: Tried almost every sensible combination,
 TEX-entry in the float [h],
 Making the figures smaller (although not acceptable)...
 
 the 'h' is just not respected
 

You can try the following: Leave the float-placement option in the layout-menu
empty, and define a separate float-placement option for each figure-float. This
is done this way:

After inserting the figure float and the figure in it, put the cursor directly
before the figure. The cursor has to blink in the down-left edge of the
bounding box of the picture. Now press Enter. You got a new line in the top of
the figure float. Now type the float-placement option you want for this picture
(I think it is [h] ) in brackets and mark it as TeX.

This worked for me some times having the same problem.

Hope this helps,
Alex.




 Can anyone think of a way to 'nail' them exactly where they should be? 
 (beneath their reference-statement)
 Thanks
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Re: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Herbert

 What happens:
 First page float1 and itemized text
 second page float2 and itemized text
 3rd-15th pages full of floats cross-referenced from the first 2 pages.
 
 What I have tried:
 Global placement parameters: Tried almost every sensible combination,
 TEX-entry in the float [h],
 Making the figures smaller (although not acceptable)...
 
  the 'h' is just not respected

LAyout - Dcoument - Placing of flaots

there must be  "ht" otherwise LyX choose for default ptb and 
NOT the h(ere)-option and your floats are everywhere but not here ..
:-))


Herbert

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Re: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Berkun Culha

According to Alexander Wollmann:


Am 25-Apr-99 schrieb Berkun Culha:
 Hi,
 
 I am wondering if there is way to stop them from 'floating' all around.
 
 What I want to do:
 I have several statements itemized and each one is followed by a screenshot
 (approx. 11x7cm). (figure floats - I need the caption). 
 
 What happens:
 First page float1 and itemized text
 second page float2 and itemized text
 3rd-15th pages full of floats cross-referenced from the first 2 pages.
 
 What I have tried:
 Global placement parameters: Tried almost every sensible combination,
 TEX-entry in the float [h],
 Making the figures smaller (although not acceptable)...
 
 the 'h' is just not respected
 

You can try the following: Leave the float-placement option in the layout-menu
empty, and define a separate float-placement option for each figure-float. This
is done this way:

After inserting the figure float and the figure in it, put the cursor directly
before the figure. The cursor has to blink in the down-left edge of the
bounding box of the picture. Now press Enter. You got a new line in the top of
the figure float. Now type the float-placement option you want for this picture
(I think it is [h] ) in brackets and mark it as TeX.

This worked for me some times having the same problem.

Hope this helps,
Alex.

Sorry, that does not work in my case. Tried that already. Herbert's [ht] (or
any other combination in document layout) doesn't work either. I think lyx 
won't place the floats the way I want, because arranging little paragraphs 
and images of this size alternately doesn't fit its 'aesthetic' standards - 
regardless of the pririty of [h]ere.

Maybe someone can think of another (LaTeX/TeX-)way to suppress this? 
Maybe I should switch to another kind of layout in which more space is 
available and my figures are not that 'threatening big' to be 'floated away' to
the end of the document? Any ideas?

 Can anyone think of a way to 'nail' them exactly where they should be? 
 (beneath their reference-statement)
 Thanks
-- 
Berkun Culha  ***  eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Berkun Culha

According to Reuben Thomas:

 Sorry, that does not work in my case. Tried that already. Herbert's [ht] (or
 any other combination in document layout) doesn't work either. I think lyx 
 won't place the floats the way I want, because arranging little paragraphs 
 and images of this size alternately doesn't fit its 'aesthetic' standards - 
 regardless of the pririty of [h]ere.

 Maybe someone can think of another (LaTeX/TeX-)way to suppress this? 

The array package adds a new float position specifier, "H", which means
"*really* here". So add

\usepackage{array}

to the LyX preamble, and then use "H" position for your floats.

(I could be wrong about the required package being array, but I'm fairly
certain.)


Thank you for the hint with the [H] which !really! means HERE.
Causing unwanted page breaks it has to be combined with stuff like

\restylefloat{figure}
...
\afterpage{\clearpage \begin{figure}[H] ... \end{figure}} 

though. Which means more 'fine manual' reading for me.
The name of the packege is {float} btw. :-)
Thanks.
-- 
Berkun Culha  ***  eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Alexander Wollmann


Am 25-Apr-99 schrieb Berkun Culha:
 Hi,
 
 I am wondering if there is way to stop them from 'floating' all around.
 
 What I want to do:
 I have several statements itemized and each one is followed by a screenshot
 (approx. 11x7cm). (figure floats - I need the caption). 
 
 What happens:
 First page float1 and itemized text
 second page float2 and itemized text
 3rd-15th pages full of floats cross-referenced from the first 2 pages.
 
 What I have tried:
 Global placement parameters: Tried almost every sensible combination,
 TEX-entry in the float [h],
 Making the figures smaller (although not acceptable)...
 
 the 'h' is just not respected
 

You can try the following: Leave the float-placement option in the layout-menu
empty, and define a separate float-placement option for each figure-float. This
is done this way:

After inserting the figure float and the figure in it, put the cursor directly
before the figure. The cursor has to blink in the down-left edge of the
bounding box of the picture. Now press Enter. You got a new line in the top of
the figure float. Now type the float-placement option you want for this picture
(I think it is [h] ) in brackets and mark it as TeX.

This worked for me some times having the same problem.

Hope this helps,
Alex.




 Can anyone think of a way to 'nail' them exactly where they should be? 
 (beneath their reference-statement)
 Thanks
 -- 
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Re: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Herbert

 What happens:
 First page float1 and itemized text
 second page float2 and itemized text
 3rd-15th pages full of floats cross-referenced from the first 2 pages.
 
 What I have tried:
 Global placement parameters: Tried almost every sensible combination,
 TEX-entry in the float [h],
 Making the figures smaller (although not acceptable)...
 
  the 'h' is just not respected

LAyout - Dcoument - Placing of flaots

there must be  "ht" otherwise LyX choose for default ptb and 
NOT the h(ere)-option and your floats are everywhere but not here ..
:-))


Herbert

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.canisius.de/



Re: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Berkun Culha

According to Alexander Wollmann:


Am 25-Apr-99 schrieb Berkun Culha:
 Hi,
 
 I am wondering if there is way to stop them from 'floating' all around.
 
 What I want to do:
 I have several statements itemized and each one is followed by a screenshot
 (approx. 11x7cm). (figure floats - I need the caption). 
 
 What happens:
 First page float1 and itemized text
 second page float2 and itemized text
 3rd-15th pages full of floats cross-referenced from the first 2 pages.
 
 What I have tried:
 Global placement parameters: Tried almost every sensible combination,
 TEX-entry in the float [h],
 Making the figures smaller (although not acceptable)...
 
 the 'h' is just not respected
 

You can try the following: Leave the float-placement option in the layout-menu
empty, and define a separate float-placement option for each figure-float. This
is done this way:

After inserting the figure float and the figure in it, put the cursor directly
before the figure. The cursor has to blink in the down-left edge of the
bounding box of the picture. Now press Enter. You got a new line in the top of
the figure float. Now type the float-placement option you want for this picture
(I think it is [h] ) in brackets and mark it as TeX.

This worked for me some times having the same problem.

Hope this helps,
Alex.

Sorry, that does not work in my case. Tried that already. Herbert's [ht] (or
any other combination in document layout) doesn't work either. I think lyx 
won't place the floats the way I want, because arranging little paragraphs 
and images of this size alternately doesn't fit its 'aesthetic' standards - 
regardless of the pririty of [h]ere.

Maybe someone can think of another (LaTeX/TeX-)way to suppress this? 
Maybe I should switch to another kind of layout in which more space is 
available and my figures are not that 'threatening big' to be 'floated away' to
the end of the document? Any ideas?

 Can anyone think of a way to 'nail' them exactly where they should be? 
 (beneath their reference-statement)
 Thanks
-- 
Berkun Culha  ***  eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Berkun Culha

According to Reuben Thomas:

 Sorry, that does not work in my case. Tried that already. Herbert's [ht] (or
 any other combination in document layout) doesn't work either. I think lyx 
 won't place the floats the way I want, because arranging little paragraphs 
 and images of this size alternately doesn't fit its 'aesthetic' standards - 
 regardless of the pririty of [h]ere.

 Maybe someone can think of another (LaTeX/TeX-)way to suppress this? 

The array package adds a new float position specifier, "H", which means
"*really* here". So add

\usepackage{array}

to the LyX preamble, and then use "H" position for your floats.

(I could be wrong about the required package being array, but I'm fairly
certain.)


Thank you for the hint with the [H] which !really! means HERE.
Causing unwanted page breaks it has to be combined with stuff like

\restylefloat{figure}
...
\afterpage{\clearpage \begin{figure}[H] ... \end{figure}} 

though. Which means more 'fine manual' reading for me.
The name of the packege is {float} btw. :-)
Thanks.
-- 
Berkun Culha  ***  eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Alexander Wollmann


Am 25-Apr-99 schrieb Berkun Culha:
> Hi,
> 
> I am wondering if there is way to stop them from 'floating' all around.
> 
> What I want to do:
> I have several statements itemized and each one is followed by a screenshot
> (approx. 11x7cm). (figure floats - I need the caption). 
> 
> What happens:
> First page float1 and itemized text
> second page float2 and itemized text
> 3rd-15th pages full of floats cross-referenced from the first 2 pages.
> 
> What I have tried:
> Global placement parameters: Tried almost every sensible combination,
> TEX-entry in the float [h],
> Making the figures smaller (although not acceptable)...
> 
>> the 'h' is just not respected
> 

You can try the following: Leave the float-placement option in the layout-menu
empty, and define a separate float-placement option for each figure-float. This
is done this way:

After inserting the figure float and the figure in it, put the cursor directly
before the figure. The cursor has to blink in the down-left edge of the
bounding box of the picture. Now press Enter. You got a new line in the top of
the figure float. Now type the float-placement option you want for this picture
(I think it is [h] ) in brackets and mark it as TeX.

This worked for me some times having the same problem.

Hope this helps,
Alex.




> Can anyone think of a way to 'nail' them exactly where they should be? 
> (beneath their reference-statement)
> Thanks
> -- 
> Berkun Culha  ***  eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

---
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Universitdt Freiburg
Abteilung Elementar-Mathematik und Didaktik

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Re: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Herbert

> What happens:
> First page float1 and itemized text
> second page float2 and itemized text
> 3rd-15th pages full of floats cross-referenced from the first 2 pages.
> 
> What I have tried:
> Global placement parameters: Tried almost every sensible combination,
> TEX-entry in the float [h],
> Making the figures smaller (although not acceptable)...
> 
> > the 'h' is just not respected

LAyout - Dcoument - Placing of flaots

there must be  "ht" otherwise LyX choose for default ptb and 
NOT the h(ere)-option and your floats are everywhere but not here ..
:-))


Herbert

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.canisius.de/



Re: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Berkun Culha

According to Alexander Wollmann:
>
>
>Am 25-Apr-99 schrieb Berkun Culha:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am wondering if there is way to stop them from 'floating' all around.
>> 
>> What I want to do:
>> I have several statements itemized and each one is followed by a screenshot
>> (approx. 11x7cm). (figure floats - I need the caption). 
>> 
>> What happens:
>> First page float1 and itemized text
>> second page float2 and itemized text
>> 3rd-15th pages full of floats cross-referenced from the first 2 pages.
>> 
>> What I have tried:
>> Global placement parameters: Tried almost every sensible combination,
>> TEX-entry in the float [h],
>> Making the figures smaller (although not acceptable)...
>> 
>>> the 'h' is just not respected
>> 
>
>You can try the following: Leave the float-placement option in the layout-menu
>empty, and define a separate float-placement option for each figure-float. This
>is done this way:
>
>After inserting the figure float and the figure in it, put the cursor directly
>before the figure. The cursor has to blink in the down-left edge of the
>bounding box of the picture. Now press Enter. You got a new line in the top of
>the figure float. Now type the float-placement option you want for this picture
>(I think it is [h] ) in brackets and mark it as TeX.
>
>This worked for me some times having the same problem.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Alex.

Sorry, that does not work in my case. Tried that already. Herbert's [ht] (or
any other combination in document layout) doesn't work either. I think lyx 
won't place the floats the way I want, because arranging little paragraphs 
and images of this size alternately doesn't fit its 'aesthetic' standards - 
regardless of the pririty of [h]ere.

Maybe someone can think of another (LaTeX/TeX-)way to suppress this? 
Maybe I should switch to another kind of layout in which more space is 
available and my figures are not that 'threatening big' to be 'floated away' to
the end of the document? Any ideas?

>> Can anyone think of a way to 'nail' them exactly where they should be? 
>> (beneath their reference-statement)
>> Thanks
-- 
Berkun Culha  ***  eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: fig. floats drive me crazy

1999-04-25 Thread Berkun Culha

According to Reuben Thomas:
>
>> Sorry, that does not work in my case. Tried that already. Herbert's [ht] (or
>> any other combination in document layout) doesn't work either. I think lyx 
>> won't place the floats the way I want, because arranging little paragraphs 
>> and images of this size alternately doesn't fit its 'aesthetic' standards - 
>> regardless of the pririty of [h]ere.
>
>> Maybe someone can think of another (LaTeX/TeX-)way to suppress this? 
>
>The array package adds a new float position specifier, "H", which means
>"*really* here". So add
>
>\usepackage{array}
>
>to the LyX preamble, and then use "H" position for your floats.
>
>(I could be wrong about the required package being array, but I'm fairly
>certain.)
>
>
Thank you for the hint with the [H] which !really! means HERE.
Causing unwanted page breaks it has to be combined with stuff like

\restylefloat{figure}
...
\afterpage{\clearpage \begin{figure}[H] ... \end{figure}} 

though. Which means more 'fine manual' reading for me.
The name of the packege is {float} btw. :-)
Thanks.
-- 
Berkun Culha  ***  eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]