RE: lyx-users Digest 18 Dec 2008 08:59:48 -0000 Issue 2717
IMO such behaviour is somehow close to correct. LyX do not support BibLaTeX officially, so if it cannot handle UTF .bib files, it is compatible with BibTeX. Manveru, you and Jurgen are right. But I wonder WHY LyX 1.6.0 could read my .bib file while 1.6.1 not. Anyway, in order to use BibLaTeX, LyX should just read only the bibtex Keys and show the reference in any way, BiBLaTex would do the rest. I think BiBTeX stands out of all this I suppose I can't force LyX working as in version 1.6.0 so: - can anyone teach me how to encode a .bib file (under windows xp) in a proper code which grant me basic latin-extended character (accents, umlauts, cedillas etc.) along with double caporal quotes («»), have it read by LyX 1.6.1 and proper encoded in final output? (I use EndNote-exported .bib files) - if not: can I force UTF encoding in the preamble, so in Lyx Document options I can set the encoding to default (and thus read the .bib file) and at the same time have a correct output? thanks Piero Personalizzali con Messenger! Stanco dei soliti auguri? _ Party… con Eventi! Condividi foto e commenti sulla tua festa! http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx
Re: lyx-users Digest 18 Dec 2008 08:59:48 -0000 Issue 2717
Piero Faustini wrote:
Manveru, you and Jurgen are right. But I wonder WHY LyX 1.6.0 could read my
.bib file while 1.6.1 not.
Is the bib-file 100% identical? Didn't you add some citations to the document
in the meantime?
Anyway, in order to use BibLaTeX, LyX should
just read only the bibtex Keys and show the reference in any way, BiBLaTex
would do the rest. I think BiBTeX stands out of all this
No. Biblatex cannot handle utf8-encoded bib files either. The biblatex manual
states this clearly:
Using utf-8 encoding in both the tex and the bib file is not possible since
neither traditional BibTeX nor bibtex8 can handle multi-byte encodings
such as utf-8. In this case, you need to use a single-byte encoding such
as Latin 1 (see above) or resort to Ascii notation in the bib file:
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{biblatex}
I suppose I can't force LyX working as in version 1.6.0 so:
- can anyone teach me how to encode a .bib file (under windows xp) in a
proper code which grant me basic latin-extended character (accents,
umlauts, cedillas etc.) along with double caporal quotes («»), have it read
by LyX 1.6.1 and proper encoded in final output? (I use EndNote-exported
.bib files)
Just open it in a text editor and save it in latin-1 encoding. For more
complex tasks, command line tools such as recode will help.
- if not: can I force UTF encoding in the preamble, so in Lyx
Document options I can set the encoding to default (and thus read the .bib
file) and at the same time have a correct output? thanks
This I do not understand.
Jürgen
RE: lyx-users Digest 18 Dec 2008 08:59:48 -0000 Issue 2717
IMO such behaviour is somehow close to correct. LyX do not support BibLaTeX officially, so if it cannot handle UTF .bib files, it is compatible with BibTeX. Manveru, you and Jurgen are right. But I wonder WHY LyX 1.6.0 could read my .bib file while 1.6.1 not. Anyway, in order to use BibLaTeX, LyX should just read only the bibtex Keys and show the reference in any way, BiBLaTex would do the rest. I think BiBTeX stands out of all this I suppose I can't force LyX working as in version 1.6.0 so: - can anyone teach me how to encode a .bib file (under windows xp) in a proper code which grant me basic latin-extended character (accents, umlauts, cedillas etc.) along with double caporal quotes («»), have it read by LyX 1.6.1 and proper encoded in final output? (I use EndNote-exported .bib files) - if not: can I force UTF encoding in the preamble, so in Lyx Document options I can set the encoding to default (and thus read the .bib file) and at the same time have a correct output? thanks Piero Personalizzali con Messenger! Stanco dei soliti auguri? _ Party… con Eventi! Condividi foto e commenti sulla tua festa! http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx
Re: lyx-users Digest 18 Dec 2008 08:59:48 -0000 Issue 2717
Piero Faustini wrote:
Manveru, you and Jurgen are right. But I wonder WHY LyX 1.6.0 could read my
.bib file while 1.6.1 not.
Is the bib-file 100% identical? Didn't you add some citations to the document
in the meantime?
Anyway, in order to use BibLaTeX, LyX should
just read only the bibtex Keys and show the reference in any way, BiBLaTex
would do the rest. I think BiBTeX stands out of all this
No. Biblatex cannot handle utf8-encoded bib files either. The biblatex manual
states this clearly:
Using utf-8 encoding in both the tex and the bib file is not possible since
neither traditional BibTeX nor bibtex8 can handle multi-byte encodings
such as utf-8. In this case, you need to use a single-byte encoding such
as Latin 1 (see above) or resort to Ascii notation in the bib file:
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{biblatex}
I suppose I can't force LyX working as in version 1.6.0 so:
- can anyone teach me how to encode a .bib file (under windows xp) in a
proper code which grant me basic latin-extended character (accents,
umlauts, cedillas etc.) along with double caporal quotes («»), have it read
by LyX 1.6.1 and proper encoded in final output? (I use EndNote-exported
.bib files)
Just open it in a text editor and save it in latin-1 encoding. For more
complex tasks, command line tools such as recode will help.
- if not: can I force UTF encoding in the preamble, so in Lyx
Document options I can set the encoding to default (and thus read the .bib
file) and at the same time have a correct output? thanks
This I do not understand.
Jürgen
RE: lyx-users Digest 18 Dec 2008 08:59:48 -0000 Issue 2717
> IMO such behaviour is somehow close to correct. LyX do not support > BibLaTeX officially, so if it cannot handle UTF .bib files, it is > compatible with BibTeX. Manveru, you and Jurgen are right. But I wonder WHY LyX 1.6.0 could read my .bib file while 1.6.1 not. Anyway, in order to use BibLaTeX, LyX should just read only the bibtex Keys and show the reference in any way, BiBLaTex would do the rest. I think BiBTeX stands out of all this I suppose I can't force LyX working as in version 1.6.0 so: - can anyone teach me how to encode a .bib file (under windows xp) in a proper code which grant me basic latin-extended character (accents, umlauts, cedillas etc.) along with double caporal quotes («»), have it read by LyX 1.6.1 and proper encoded in final output? (I use EndNote-exported .bib files) - if not: can I force UTF encoding in the preamble, so in Lyx Document options I can set the encoding to default (and thus read the .bib file) and at the same time have a correct output? thanks Piero Personalizzali con Messenger! Stanco dei soliti auguri? _ Party… con Eventi! Condividi foto e commenti sulla tua festa! http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx
Re: lyx-users Digest 18 Dec 2008 08:59:48 -0000 Issue 2717
Piero Faustini wrote:
> Manveru, you and Jurgen are right. But I wonder WHY LyX 1.6.0 could read my
> .bib file while 1.6.1 not.
Is the bib-file 100% identical? Didn't you add some citations to the document
in the meantime?
> Anyway, in order to use BibLaTeX, LyX should
> just read only the bibtex Keys and show the reference in any way, BiBLaTex
> would do the rest. I think BiBTeX stands out of all this
No. Biblatex cannot handle utf8-encoded bib files either. The biblatex manual
states this clearly:
"Using utf-8 encoding in both the tex and the bib file is not possible since
neither traditional BibTeX nor bibtex8 can handle multi-byte encodings
such as utf-8. In this case, you need to use a single-byte encoding such
as Latin 1 (see above) or resort to Ascii notation in the bib file:
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{biblatex}"
> I suppose I can't force LyX working as in version 1.6.0 so:
> - can anyone teach me how to encode a .bib file (under windows xp) in a
> proper code which grant me basic latin-extended character (accents,
> umlauts, cedillas etc.) along with double caporal quotes («»), have it read
> by LyX 1.6.1 and proper encoded in final output? (I use EndNote-exported
> .bib files)
Just open it in a text editor and save it in latin-1 encoding. For more
complex tasks, command line tools such as recode will help.
> - if not: can I force UTF encoding in the preamble, so in Lyx
> Document options I can set the encoding to default (and thus read the .bib
> file) and at the same time have a correct output? thanks
This I do not understand.
Jürgen
