Re: Sorting the Bibliography

[Andre Berger]

* Walid Maalej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2005-10-15 20:40 +0200:
> > Maybe the mla style is not installed on your system, you can get it
> > from CTAN mirrors. Just try a few other "Styles" from the drop-down
> > list (click on BibTeX Generated Bibliography to see it), most of them
> > create sorted output. You could try apalike.
> 
> 
> A I stated before I did not use BiBTeX for adding the Bib items. I just used

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood you. To answer your original question,
LaTeX relies on external programs for sorting, as it doesn't care
about contents at all. 

> the LyX environment Bibliography. Idon't have any BibTex generated items
> (unfortunately) and I can't find any configuration dialog to input the
> style. Is it possible to write it explicitly in LaTeX?

Sure is. Use to \bibitem command in ERT, and sort the entries
manually. The second Google hit on "latex bibliography",
, will show you what it
would may look like.

-Andre

RE: Sorting the Bibliography

[Walid Maalej]

> Maybe the mla style is not installed on your system, you can get it
> from CTAN mirrors. Just try a few other "Styles" from the drop-down
> list (click on BibTeX Generated Bibliography to see it), most of them
> create sorted output. You could try apalike.


A I stated before I did not use BiBTeX for adding the Bib items. I just used
the LyX environment Bibliography. Idon't have any BibTex generated items
(unfortunately) and I can't find any configuration dialog to input the
style. Is it possible to write it explicitly in LaTeX?

Re: Sorting the Bibliography

[Andre Berger]

* Walid Maalej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2005-10-15 19:30 +0200:
> 
> > > I suppose you are talking about BiBTeX? I have inserted my references
> > (there
> > > are a lots of them) just using the LyX Bibliography environment. I
> > thought
> > > LyX will sort them automatically. Unfortunately it was not the case. I
> > can't
> > > use insert-->List-->Bibliography since my references are already
> > inserted.
> > > Do you know any tricks in sorting them explicitly?
> > 
> > Do not use style "unsrt", try "mla" or the like. BTW, LyX just
> > triggers BibTeX that does all the bibliography work.
> 
> 
> Hi Andre,
> Can you please explain how can I define the style "mla"? In the preamble?
> Can you please give a code example?

Maybe the mla style is not installed on your system, you can get it
from CTAN mirrors. Just try a few other "Styles" from the drop-down
list (click on BibTeX Generated Bibliography to see it), most of them
create sorted output. You could try apalike. 

-Andre

RE: Sorting the Bibliography

[Walid Maalej]

> > I suppose you are talking about BiBTeX? I have inserted my references
> (there
> > are a lots of them) just using the LyX Bibliography environment. I
> thought
> > LyX will sort them automatically. Unfortunately it was not the case. I
> can't
> > use insert-->List-->Bibliography since my references are already
> inserted.
> > Do you know any tricks in sorting them explicitly?
> 
> Do not use style "unsrt", try "mla" or the like. BTW, LyX just
> triggers BibTeX that does all the bibliography work.


Hi Andre,
Can you please explain how can I define the style "mla"? In the preamble?
Can you please give a code example?

Thanks a lot in advance
Walid

Re: Sorting the Bibliography

[Andre Berger]

* Walid Maalej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2005-10-15 10:20 +0200:
> Hi @ all
> 
> > The way your bibliography is formatted and sorted is controlled by the
> > bibliographystyle. You can choose it from the Insert-->List-->Bibliography
> > dialog box.
> 
> I suppose you are talking about BiBTeX? I have inserted my references (there
> are a lots of them) just using the LyX Bibliography environment. I thought
> LyX will sort them automatically. Unfortunately it was not the case. I can't
> use insert-->List-->Bibliography since my references are already inserted.
> Do you know any tricks in sorting them explicitly?

Do not use style "unsrt", try "mla" or the like. BTW, LyX just
triggers BibTeX that does all the bibliography work.

-Andre

RE: Sorting the Bibliography

[Walid Maalej]

Hi @ all

> The way your bibliography is formatted and sorted is controlled by the
> bibliographystyle. You can choose it from the Insert-->List-->Bibliography
> dialog box.

I suppose you are talking about BiBTeX? I have inserted my references (there
are a lots of them) just using the LyX Bibliography environment. I thought
LyX will sort them automatically. Unfortunately it was not the case. I can't
use insert-->List-->Bibliography since my references are already inserted.
Do you know any tricks in sorting them explicitly?

Thank you very much.
Walid

Re: Sorting the Bibliography

[Charles de Miramon]

Walid Maalej wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I ve just added my references using the Lyx features. Now I would like to
> have theses references alphabetically sorted in the final document.
> Can I do it with Lyx? If No, do you know which LaTeX commands will solve
> my problem?

The way your bibliography is formatted and sorted is controlled by the
bibliographystyle. You can choose it from the Insert-->List-->Bibliography
dialog box.
The basic styles are plain, alpha and unsrt. The first two will sort
alphabetically your references. The last one will leave the references in
order of their appearance in your paper.

Beware that alphabetical sorting becomes a more complex task for a lot of
European languages for example the German ä or the French é, è or the
Spanish ll. Specialized bibliography styles may help.

For sorting a list or a glossary, I don't know of any tool.  

Cheers,
Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: Sorting the Bibliography

[hansel]

Lyx sorts for printing (including screen dvi, ps or pdf). To print the raw
file, I sporatically ask emacs to "sort buffer." As I recall, other bibtex
tools also sort. But your question was aobut output. That is automatic.

Mark Hansel

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Walid Maalej wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I ve just added my references using the Lyx features. Now I would like to
> have theses references alphabetically sorted in the final document. 
> Can I do it with Lyx? If No, do you know which LaTeX commands will solve my
> problem?
> Furthermore, is it possible to sort a list of items (e.g. a Glossary or
> definitions) using LyX or LaTeX
> Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
> Best Regards,
> Walid

Re: Sorting the bibliography

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Oliver" == Oliver Eichler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Oliver> Hi Is it possible to make Lyx or TeX to alphabetically sort
Oliver> the entries of a bibliography. I have got a very long list and
Oliver> don´t want to do this by hand. Or am I forced to do this
Oliver> within another program and to import the text?

The best solution is to use BibTeX to handle your bibliography. LyX
has good support for BibTex files and there exist some good bibtex
files editors, some of which are even LyX aware (gbib, barracuda).

JMarc