Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-03 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
Unfortunately, wrapfig in latex works very poorly. Even when letting
wrapped figures float, they are often placed unfortunate. What
I do is in the final version of a document, I manually move
wrapped figures around, reduce spaces etc. so that it
looks right. This is of course against the latex philosophy.



Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-03 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
Unfortunately, wrapfig in latex works very poorly. Even when letting
wrapped figures float, they are often placed unfortunate. What
I do is in the final version of a document, I manually move
wrapped figures around, reduce spaces etc. so that it
looks right. This is of course against the latex philosophy.



Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-03 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
Unfortunately, wrapfig in latex works very poorly. Even when letting
wrapped figures float, they are often placed unfortunate. What
I do is in the final version of a document, I manually move
wrapped figures around, reduce spaces etc. so that it
looks right. This is of course against the latex philosophy.



Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread Helge Hafting


Den 01. okt. 2014 01:18, skrev Patrick Dupre:

Hello,

I am not satisfied by the placement of wrapped figures:
Probably, because in one part of the document there is too many
figures compared to the text, there is some large spaces kept blank
on the side of the wrapped figures.

Is there any tip that I could use?
Actually, latex should just move the pictures a bit farther where there
are no more figures if it is the issue.

I use outer placement and allow floating, one column.
If I change for left or right of inner, the figure remains on the left side.

The setting is typically 45% of the pagewidth.

Wrapped figures is one of the few things LaTeX isn't good at.
I don't think the wrapped figures float around, so if my understanding 
is correct, they will not be moved automatically. You can move them 
yourself though, using cut  paste.


Making figures smaller may help, if you can fit more figures on a page 
that way.
Making figures bigger may help - there will be less room for text next 
to the figures, so less white space.


If you want automatic placement of figures to work better, use floating 
figures instead of wrapped figures. Floating figures are good at 
avoiding excess white space - they will be moved to another page if 
necessary.


Helge Hafting




Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thank

===
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 at 1:55 PM
 From: Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no
 To: Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com, lyx lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: Re: Wrapped figure

 
 Den 01. okt. 2014 01:18, skrev Patrick Dupre:
  Hello,
 
  I am not satisfied by the placement of wrapped figures:
  Probably, because in one part of the document there is too many
  figures compared to the text, there is some large spaces kept blank
  on the side of the wrapped figures.
 
  Is there any tip that I could use?
  Actually, latex should just move the pictures a bit farther where there
  are no more figures if it is the issue.
 
  I use outer placement and allow floating, one column.
  If I change for left or right of inner, the figure remains on the left side.
 
  The setting is typically 45% of the pagewidth.
 Wrapped figures is one of the few things LaTeX isn't good at.
 I don't think the wrapped figures float around, so if my understanding 
 is correct, they will not be moved automatically. You can move them 
 yourself though, using cut  paste.
 
 Making figures smaller may help, if you can fit more figures on a page 
 that way.
 Making figures bigger may help - there will be less room for text next 
 to the figures, so less white space.
 
 If you want automatic placement of figures to work better, use floating 
 figures instead of wrapped figures. Floating figures are good at 
 avoiding excess white space - they will be moved to another page if 
 necessary.
 
I use wrapped figures to reduce to number of pages of my document.
Unfortunately, the agencies first care of the parameter!


Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread Helge Hafting


Den 01. okt. 2014 14:02, skrev Patrick Dupre:

I use wrapped figures to reduce to number of pages of my document.
Unfortunately, the agencies first care of the parameter!

I see. Tweaking the placement manually is probably the way to go then.

Another space-saving trick is to put two (or more) narrow figures 
side-by-side inside the same float.
If you need them to have separate captions (for referencing), start by 
putting two 50% minipages in the float. Then put one image in each 
minipage, and also one caption in each.  (And if you want 3 figures side 
by side, use 3 minipages with 33% width.)


This way, you can have more narrow figures per page - closer to the text 
that describes them.


Helge Hafting


Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread aparsloe


On 2/10/2014 12:55 a.m., Helge Hafting wrote:


Den 01. okt. 2014 01:18, skrev Patrick Dupre:

Hello,

I am not satisfied by the placement of wrapped figures:
Probably, because in one part of the document there is too many
figures compared to the text, there is some large spaces kept blank
on the side of the wrapped figures.

Is there any tip that I could use?
Actually, latex should just move the pictures a bit farther where there
are no more figures if it is the issue.

I use outer placement and allow floating, one column.
If I change for left or right of inner, the figure remains on the 
left side.


The setting is typically 45% of the pagewidth.

Wrapped figures is one of the few things LaTeX isn't good at.
I don't think the wrapped figures float around, so if my 
understanding is correct, they will not be moved automatically. You 
can move them yourself though, using cut  paste.

Helge Hafting

In LyX, Insert  Float  Figure Wrap Float does does provide a floating 
option. When you right click on the label, under Settings, there is an 
Allow floating checkbox. I have occasionally used this when dissatisfied 
with the fixed position result for a wrapped figure.


Andrew


Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread Helge Hafting


Den 01. okt. 2014 01:18, skrev Patrick Dupre:

Hello,

I am not satisfied by the placement of wrapped figures:
Probably, because in one part of the document there is too many
figures compared to the text, there is some large spaces kept blank
on the side of the wrapped figures.

Is there any tip that I could use?
Actually, latex should just move the pictures a bit farther where there
are no more figures if it is the issue.

I use outer placement and allow floating, one column.
If I change for left or right of inner, the figure remains on the left side.

The setting is typically 45% of the pagewidth.

Wrapped figures is one of the few things LaTeX isn't good at.
I don't think the wrapped figures float around, so if my understanding 
is correct, they will not be moved automatically. You can move them 
yourself though, using cut  paste.


Making figures smaller may help, if you can fit more figures on a page 
that way.
Making figures bigger may help - there will be less room for text next 
to the figures, so less white space.


If you want automatic placement of figures to work better, use floating 
figures instead of wrapped figures. Floating figures are good at 
avoiding excess white space - they will be moved to another page if 
necessary.


Helge Hafting




Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thank

===
 Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale   | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12   | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===


 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 at 1:55 PM
 From: Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no
 To: Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com, lyx lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: Re: Wrapped figure

 
 Den 01. okt. 2014 01:18, skrev Patrick Dupre:
  Hello,
 
  I am not satisfied by the placement of wrapped figures:
  Probably, because in one part of the document there is too many
  figures compared to the text, there is some large spaces kept blank
  on the side of the wrapped figures.
 
  Is there any tip that I could use?
  Actually, latex should just move the pictures a bit farther where there
  are no more figures if it is the issue.
 
  I use outer placement and allow floating, one column.
  If I change for left or right of inner, the figure remains on the left side.
 
  The setting is typically 45% of the pagewidth.
 Wrapped figures is one of the few things LaTeX isn't good at.
 I don't think the wrapped figures float around, so if my understanding 
 is correct, they will not be moved automatically. You can move them 
 yourself though, using cut  paste.
 
 Making figures smaller may help, if you can fit more figures on a page 
 that way.
 Making figures bigger may help - there will be less room for text next 
 to the figures, so less white space.
 
 If you want automatic placement of figures to work better, use floating 
 figures instead of wrapped figures. Floating figures are good at 
 avoiding excess white space - they will be moved to another page if 
 necessary.
 
I use wrapped figures to reduce to number of pages of my document.
Unfortunately, the agencies first care of the parameter!


Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread Helge Hafting


Den 01. okt. 2014 14:02, skrev Patrick Dupre:

I use wrapped figures to reduce to number of pages of my document.
Unfortunately, the agencies first care of the parameter!

I see. Tweaking the placement manually is probably the way to go then.

Another space-saving trick is to put two (or more) narrow figures 
side-by-side inside the same float.
If you need them to have separate captions (for referencing), start by 
putting two 50% minipages in the float. Then put one image in each 
minipage, and also one caption in each.  (And if you want 3 figures side 
by side, use 3 minipages with 33% width.)


This way, you can have more narrow figures per page - closer to the text 
that describes them.


Helge Hafting


Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread aparsloe


On 2/10/2014 12:55 a.m., Helge Hafting wrote:


Den 01. okt. 2014 01:18, skrev Patrick Dupre:

Hello,

I am not satisfied by the placement of wrapped figures:
Probably, because in one part of the document there is too many
figures compared to the text, there is some large spaces kept blank
on the side of the wrapped figures.

Is there any tip that I could use?
Actually, latex should just move the pictures a bit farther where there
are no more figures if it is the issue.

I use outer placement and allow floating, one column.
If I change for left or right of inner, the figure remains on the 
left side.


The setting is typically 45% of the pagewidth.

Wrapped figures is one of the few things LaTeX isn't good at.
I don't think the wrapped figures float around, so if my 
understanding is correct, they will not be moved automatically. You 
can move them yourself though, using cut  paste.

Helge Hafting

In LyX, Insert  Float  Figure Wrap Float does does provide a floating 
option. When you right click on the label, under Settings, there is an 
Allow floating checkbox. I have occasionally used this when dissatisfied 
with the fixed position result for a wrapped figure.


Andrew


Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread Helge Hafting


Den 01. okt. 2014 01:18, skrev Patrick Dupre:

Hello,

I am not satisfied by the placement of wrapped figures:
Probably, because in one part of the document there is too many
figures compared to the text, there is some large spaces kept blank
on the side of the wrapped figures.

Is there any tip that I could use?
Actually, latex should just move the pictures a bit farther where there
are no more figures if it is the issue.

I use outer placement and allow floating, one column.
If I change for left or right of inner, the figure remains on the left side.

The setting is typically 45% of the pagewidth.

Wrapped figures is one of the few things LaTeX isn't good at.
I don't think the wrapped figures "float around", so if my understanding 
is correct, they will not be moved automatically. You can move them 
yourself though, using cut & paste.


Making figures smaller may help, if you can fit more figures on a page 
that way.
Making figures bigger may help - there will be less room for text next 
to the figures, so less white space.


If you want automatic placement of figures to work better, use floating 
figures instead of wrapped figures. Floating figures are good at 
avoiding excess white space - they will be moved to another page if 
necessary.


Helge Hafting




Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thank

===
 Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale   | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12   | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===


> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 at 1:55 PM
> From: "Helge Hafting" <helge.haft...@hist.no>
> To: "Patrick Dupre" <pdu...@gmx.com>, lyx <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
> Subject: Re: Wrapped figure
>
> 
> Den 01. okt. 2014 01:18, skrev Patrick Dupre:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am not satisfied by the placement of wrapped figures:
> > Probably, because in one part of the document there is too many
> > figures compared to the text, there is some large spaces kept blank
> > on the side of the wrapped figures.
> >
> > Is there any tip that I could use?
> > Actually, latex should just move the pictures a bit farther where there
> > are no more figures if it is the issue.
> >
> > I use outer placement and allow floating, one column.
> > If I change for left or right of inner, the figure remains on the left side.
> >
> > The setting is typically 45% of the pagewidth.
> Wrapped figures is one of the few things LaTeX isn't good at.
> I don't think the wrapped figures "float around", so if my understanding 
> is correct, they will not be moved automatically. You can move them 
> yourself though, using cut & paste.
> 
> Making figures smaller may help, if you can fit more figures on a page 
> that way.
> Making figures bigger may help - there will be less room for text next 
> to the figures, so less white space.
> 
> If you want automatic placement of figures to work better, use floating 
> figures instead of wrapped figures. Floating figures are good at 
> avoiding excess white space - they will be moved to another page if 
> necessary.
> 
I use wrapped figures to reduce to number of pages of my document.
Unfortunately, the agencies first care of the parameter!


Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread Helge Hafting


Den 01. okt. 2014 14:02, skrev Patrick Dupre:

I use wrapped figures to reduce to number of pages of my document.
Unfortunately, the agencies first care of the parameter!

I see. Tweaking the placement manually is probably the way to go then.

Another space-saving trick is to put two (or more) narrow figures 
side-by-side inside the same float.
If you need them to have separate captions (for referencing), start by 
putting two 50% minipages in the float. Then put one image in each 
minipage, and also one caption in each.  (And if you want 3 figures side 
by side, use 3 minipages with 33% width.)


This way, you can have more narrow figures per page - closer to the text 
that describes them.


Helge Hafting


Re: Wrapped figure

2014-10-01 Thread aparsloe


On 2/10/2014 12:55 a.m., Helge Hafting wrote:


Den 01. okt. 2014 01:18, skrev Patrick Dupre:

Hello,

I am not satisfied by the placement of wrapped figures:
Probably, because in one part of the document there is too many
figures compared to the text, there is some large spaces kept blank
on the side of the wrapped figures.

Is there any tip that I could use?
Actually, latex should just move the pictures a bit farther where there
are no more figures if it is the issue.

I use outer placement and allow floating, one column.
If I change for left or right of inner, the figure remains on the 
left side.


The setting is typically 45% of the pagewidth.

Wrapped figures is one of the few things LaTeX isn't good at.
I don't think the wrapped figures "float around", so if my 
understanding is correct, they will not be moved automatically. You 
can move them yourself though, using cut & paste.

Helge Hafting

In LyX, Insert > Float > Figure Wrap Float does does provide a floating 
option. When you right click on the label, under Settings, there is an 
Allow floating checkbox. I have occasionally used this when dissatisfied 
with the fixed position result for a wrapped figure.


Andrew