Re: Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 16.04.22 um 11:04 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

I got this message:

Am 14.04.22 um 22:24 schrieb Nathan Blodgett:
Alright then, I will post to lyx-devel and with more info. 
Basically Pacstall is package manager for Debian based systems and for 
more info see pacstall.dev .



and the reply after the http was
502 Bad Gateway
nginx/1.18.0
I have sent a message to Nathan Blodgett a few minutes ago privately.
Wolfgang Engelmann

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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

[José Abílio Matos]

On Saturday, 9 April 2022 18.15.31 WEST Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users 
wrote:
>  > however, after it and after
> 
> ./configure --with-version-suffix=lyx24n
> (I unfortunately forgot --bindir=/usr/local/bin)
> make
> make install
> 
> and running a lyx file I get again:
> 
> Warning: 609: Format not supported.
> Warning: Quitting.
> Error: Dokumentformat-Fehler
> 

What is the version you are running?

Help->About LyX

I suspect that you have different versions in your path and that the older one 
is selected.

I hope that this help.
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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

[Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users]

This is a kind reminder to those, who might be able to help
Wolfgang

Am 09.04.22 um 19:15 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

 >>> I followed the advice of JMarc >

If you still have the directory where you built LyX, then
   gitpull >(should be git pull)
   make
should be enough (you can add "./autogen.sh" as a second line to play 
safe). > this I omitted


But you have a newer LyX 2.4 somewhere, since you produced a file with it!

JMarc



The LyX format itself changes regularly during the 2.4.0dev timeline. 
lyx2lyx is updated simultaneously.


When 2.4.0 is released, the format will be fixed and lyx2lyx (barring 
bugs) will stay the same during the lifetime of the branch.
The only exception is that the last 2.4 version will get an updated 
lyx2lyx that can read the 2.5 format.


Likewise, LyX 2.3.7 will be able to read and produce the 2.4.0 format.

JMarc

___

and from https://www.lyx.org/HowToUseGIT >

4.  Anonymous Git clone

 From within the directory where you want to place your local copy of 
the sources, do:


  git clone git://git.lyx.org/lyx

This will make a directory lyx and download lots of files into that 
directory. (A fresh copy will need about 400MB. However, you will need a 
lot more space for the compiled version -- up to 2 GB).


You can switch to maintenance branch via git checkout 2.3.x inside the 
lyx directory.

5.  After the first download

If the code is updated, just cd to the lyx directory and say:

  git pull

This will magically download or patch only those files which have been 
changed or added, saving you (and the server) lots of time.


If you just want to check what's changed in your local copy as opposed 
to the repository, do:


  git status
__
git status
Auf Branch master
Ihr Branch ist auf demselben Stand wie 'origin/master'.

Änderungen, die nicht zum Commit vorgemerkt sind:
   (benutzen Sie "git add ...", um die Änderungen zum Commit 
vorzumerken)
   (benutzen Sie "git restore ...", um die Änderungen im 
Arbeitsverzeichnis zu verwerfen)

     geändert:   po/ar.gmo 

keine Änderungen zum Commit vorgemerkt (benutzen Sie "git add" und/oder 
"git commit -a")


___

 > however, after it and after
./configure --with-version-suffix=lyx24n
(I unfortunately forgot --bindir=/usr/local/bin)
make
make install

and running a lyx file I get again:

Warning: 609: Format not supported.
Warning: Quitting.
Error: Dokumentformat-Fehler

/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.VqwdxGawWrac/Buffer_convertLyXFormatZYzSIl.lyx ist kein 
lesbares LyX-Dokument.
qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 5 (BadAtom), sequence: 818, 
resource id: 0, major code: 20 (GetProperty), minor code: 0

Warning: 609: Format not supported.
Warning: Quitting.
Error: Dokumentformat-Fehler

 
I am confused.

Does it mean, I have to get all the git stuff again, because for some 
reason the git pull does not update the git stuff, although it says so 
in the https://www.lyx.org/HowToUseGIT ?


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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

[Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users]

Am 08.04.22 um 09:15 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes via lyx-users:

Le 08/04/2022 à 08:18, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit :

are you saying, the lyx2lyx is changing in the 2.4.x?


The LyX format itself changes regularly during the 2.4.0dev timeline. 
lyx2lyx is updated simultaneously.


When 2.4.0 is released, the format will be fixed and lyx2lyx (barring 
bugs) will stay the same during the lifetime of the branch.
The only exception is that the last 2.4 version will get an updated 
lyx2lyx that can read the 2.5 format.


Likewise, LyX 2.3.7 will be able to read and produce the 2.4.0 format.

JMarc



ok, I understand.

That explains the troubles I had with
lyx not a readable Lyx document

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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes via lyx-users]

Le 08/04/2022 à 08:18, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit :

are you saying, the lyx2lyx is changing in the 2.4.x?


The LyX format itself changes regularly during the 2.4.0dev timeline. 
lyx2lyx is updated simultaneously.


When 2.4.0 is released, the format will be fixed and lyx2lyx (barring 
bugs) will stay the same during the lifetime of the branch.
The only exception is that the last 2.4 version will get an updated 
lyx2lyx that can read the 2.5 format.


Likewise, LyX 2.3.7 will be able to read and produce the 2.4.0 format.

JMarc

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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

[Dr Eberhard Lisse via lyx-users]

Yes and no,

LyX 2.4 uses a different format from 2.3 and hence the (2.3) lyx2lyx
does not know the new (2.4) format (yet).

That happens during (almost) every major upgrade and the developers
then usually "backport" that so I would think the eventual 2.3.6.3 (or
2.3.7) will be able to read the 2.4 format.

el

On 2022-04-08 08:18 , Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users wrote:



Am 08.04.22 um 07:21 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse via lyx-users:

An older version of lyx2lyx can't know about newer formats?

el


On 2022-04-07 09:55 , Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users wrote:
[...]

I remember, that one does not need a lyx2lyx in the same version, here
2.4.x
Has this changed?

Wolfgang




are you saying, the lyx2lyx is changing in the 2.4.x?
Wolfgang


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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

[Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users]

Am 08.04.22 um 07:21 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse via lyx-users:

An older version of lyx2lyx can't know about newer formats?

el


On 2022-04-07 09:55 , Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users wrote:
[...]

I remember, that one does not need a lyx2lyx in the same version, here
2.4.x
Has this changed?

Wolfgang




are you saying, the lyx2lyx is changing in the 2.4.x?
Wolfgang
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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

[Dr Eberhard Lisse via lyx-users]

An older version of lyx2lyx can't know about newer formats?

el


On 2022-04-07 09:55 , Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users wrote:
[...]

I remember, that one does not need a lyx2lyx in the same version, here
2.4.x
Has this changed?

Wolfgang


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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

[Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users]

Am 06.04.22 um 18:05 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

Le 06/04/2022 à 17:58, Wolfgang Engelmann a écrit :



Am 06.04.22 um 17:52 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

Le 06/04/2022 à 17:44, Wolfgang Engelmann a écrit :

And this is the output from the terminal starting lyx there:

lyx24x MEINLEBEN2020-B.lyx
Warning: 609: Format not supported.
Warning: Quitting.
Error: Document format failure


This is what I thought. It seems that you have a working recent lyx 
somewhere (the 609 version) and that now you try to read the file 
with an older version.


JMarc


Thanks a lot, JMarc.

Yes, it works now, very glad it does!
What is the best way to update the 2.4 version?
Do I have to use git again ?


If you still have the directory where you built LyX, then
   gitpull
   make
should be enough (you can add "./autogen.sh" as a second line to play 
safe).


But you have a newer LyX 2.4 somewhere, since you produced a file with it!

JMarc


I remember, that one does not need a lyx2lyx in the same version, here 2.4.x
Has this changed?

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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes via lyx-users]

Le 31/03/2022 à 10:48, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit :

I posted this already under
tmp/lyx not a readable file
(01March22)

The error message:

/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.MQUsZMBvAPQl/Buffer_convertLyXFormatwrdYvM.lyx is not a 
readable LyX document.


since quite a number of my older (March 22) lyx files are affected and I 
can't open them, I would very much appreciate if somebody could have a 
look at it.


I found 2 lyx files close to each other, one of which gives the error 
message above, the other one is alright. I could send both privately 
(because of the size and the content) to somebody for checking them.


I use lyx 2.4.dev under Debian.


Sorry for not answering earlier, I was busy at the time and then forgot.

Please send the two files to me.

JMarc
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