Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Richard Heck wrote:
 LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
 ToolsTeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.

Or the Recan button in the BibTeX settings dialog, to the same effect.

Jürgen


Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/02/2011 10:05 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Richard Heck wrote:
 LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
 ToolsTeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.
 Or the Recan button in the BibTeX settings dialog, to the same effect.

Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
to texlive a month or so ago

rh



Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Manolo Martínez
Yes, thanks a lot.
M

El lun, 02-05-2011 a las 10:03 -0400, Richard Heck escribió:
 On 05/02/2011 09:14 AM, Manolo Martínez wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I've recently moved from Ubuntu to Fedora, and I've noticed that in this
  latter distro .bst files are not where LyX looks for them. That is, they
  are not in usr/share/texmf-texlive/bibtex but, rather, in
  usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/bibtex. Texhash does not seem to make LyX
  more aware of the change.
 
  How should I enlighten LyX? I would have thought the path to .bst files
  was standard, btw...
 
 LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
 ToolsTeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.
 
 I thought we had fixed this
 
 rh
 




Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Richard Heck wrote:
 Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
 find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
 but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
 to texlive a month or so ago

The argument not to do so was that it can be too time consuming, so we do not 
want that on every reconfigure process, IIRC.

Jürgen


Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Manolo Martínez
I admit I had assumed that was the standard behaviour...
M

El lun, 02-05-2011 a las 10:10 -0400, Richard Heck escribió:
 On 05/02/2011 10:05 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  Richard Heck wrote:
  LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
  ToolsTeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.
  Or the Recan button in the BibTeX settings dialog, to the same effect.
 
 Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
 find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
 but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
 to texlive a month or so ago
 
 rh
 




Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/02/2011 10:13 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Richard Heck wrote:
 Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
 find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
 but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
 to texlive a month or so ago
 The argument not to do so was that it can be too time consuming, so we do not 
 want that on every reconfigure process, IIRC.

It's very fast here. Under a second, I'd say.

rh



Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/02/2011 10:48 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Richard Heck wrote:
 It's very fast here. Under a second, I'd say.
 Here (full TeXLive 2010 installation) it takes a bit longer, about 5-10 secs. 
 IMHO even this would be bearable.

Reconfigure takes a while, anyway.

I'll raise the issue on devel once things are moving again.

rh



Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I agree that UNITY is junk, so I simply restarted in ubuntu classic 
(AKA gnome...) and all is fine.

EK

On 05/02/2011 02:32 PM, Manolo Martínez wrote:

Natty crashed spectacularly twice -- the kind of crash that calls for a
reinstall. Even if it had been rock-solid, which for me it has not been,
I don't care much for Unity, as it is now.

Manolo

El lun, 02-05-2011 a las 14:20 -0400, Steve Litt escribió:

On Monday 02 May 2011 09:14:32 Manolo Martínez wrote:

Dear all,

I've recently moved from Ubuntu to Fedora,

Just curious: Why? This is the second time in two days hearing of people
migrating away from Ubuntu.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt





--

Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.

Jules and Doris Stein Research to Prevent BlindnessProfessor

Director, Center of Excellence for Computational  System neuroscience,

The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM

Director, The laboratory of Visual  Computational Neuroscience

Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical  Structural Biology

The Mount Sinai School of Medicine

One Gustave Levy Place

New York, NY, 10029




Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Richard Heck wrote:
 LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
 ToolsTeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.

Or the Recan button in the BibTeX settings dialog, to the same effect.

Jürgen


Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/02/2011 10:05 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Richard Heck wrote:
 LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
 ToolsTeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.
 Or the Recan button in the BibTeX settings dialog, to the same effect.

Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
to texlive a month or so ago

rh



Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Manolo Martínez
Yes, thanks a lot.
M

El lun, 02-05-2011 a las 10:03 -0400, Richard Heck escribió:
 On 05/02/2011 09:14 AM, Manolo Martínez wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I've recently moved from Ubuntu to Fedora, and I've noticed that in this
  latter distro .bst files are not where LyX looks for them. That is, they
  are not in usr/share/texmf-texlive/bibtex but, rather, in
  usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/bibtex. Texhash does not seem to make LyX
  more aware of the change.
 
  How should I enlighten LyX? I would have thought the path to .bst files
  was standard, btw...
 
 LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
 ToolsTeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.
 
 I thought we had fixed this
 
 rh
 




Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Richard Heck wrote:
 Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
 find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
 but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
 to texlive a month or so ago

The argument not to do so was that it can be too time consuming, so we do not 
want that on every reconfigure process, IIRC.

Jürgen


Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Manolo Martínez
I admit I had assumed that was the standard behaviour...
M

El lun, 02-05-2011 a las 10:10 -0400, Richard Heck escribió:
 On 05/02/2011 10:05 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  Richard Heck wrote:
  LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
  ToolsTeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.
  Or the Recan button in the BibTeX settings dialog, to the same effect.
 
 Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
 find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
 but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
 to texlive a month or so ago
 
 rh
 




Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/02/2011 10:13 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Richard Heck wrote:
 Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
 find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
 but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
 to texlive a month or so ago
 The argument not to do so was that it can be too time consuming, so we do not 
 want that on every reconfigure process, IIRC.

It's very fast here. Under a second, I'd say.

rh



Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/02/2011 10:48 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Richard Heck wrote:
 It's very fast here. Under a second, I'd say.
 Here (full TeXLive 2010 installation) it takes a bit longer, about 5-10 secs. 
 IMHO even this would be bearable.

Reconfigure takes a while, anyway.

I'll raise the issue on devel once things are moving again.

rh



Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I agree that UNITY is junk, so I simply restarted in ubuntu classic 
(AKA gnome...) and all is fine.

EK

On 05/02/2011 02:32 PM, Manolo Martínez wrote:

Natty crashed spectacularly twice -- the kind of crash that calls for a
reinstall. Even if it had been rock-solid, which for me it has not been,
I don't care much for Unity, as it is now.

Manolo

El lun, 02-05-2011 a las 14:20 -0400, Steve Litt escribió:

On Monday 02 May 2011 09:14:32 Manolo Martínez wrote:

Dear all,

I've recently moved from Ubuntu to Fedora,

Just curious: Why? This is the second time in two days hearing of people
migrating away from Ubuntu.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt





--

Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.

Jules and Doris Stein Research to Prevent BlindnessProfessor

Director, Center of Excellence for Computational  System neuroscience,

The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM

Director, The laboratory of Visual  Computational Neuroscience

Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical  Structural Biology

The Mount Sinai School of Medicine

One Gustave Levy Place

New York, NY, 10029




Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Richard Heck wrote:
> LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
> Tools>TeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.

Or the "Recan" button in the BibTeX settings dialog, to the same effect.

Jürgen


Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/02/2011 10:05 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Richard Heck wrote:
>> LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
>> Tools>TeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.
> Or the "Recan" button in the BibTeX settings dialog, to the same effect.
>
Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
to texlive a month or so ago

rh



Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Manolo Martínez
Yes, thanks a lot.
M

El lun, 02-05-2011 a las 10:03 -0400, Richard Heck escribió:
> On 05/02/2011 09:14 AM, Manolo Martínez wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I've recently moved from Ubuntu to Fedora, and I've noticed that in this
> > latter distro .bst files are not where LyX looks for them. That is, they
> > are not in usr/share/texmf-texlive/bibtex but, rather, in
> > usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/bibtex. Texhash does not seem to make LyX
> > more aware of the change.
> >
> > How should I enlighten LyX? I would have thought the path to .bst files
> > was standard, btw...
> >
> LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
> Tools>TeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.
> 
> I thought we had fixed this
> 
> rh
> 




Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Richard Heck wrote:
> Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
> find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
> but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
> to texlive a month or so ago

The argument not to do so was that it can be too time consuming, so we do not 
want that on every reconfigure process, IIRC.

Jürgen


Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Manolo Martínez
I admit I had assumed that was the standard behaviour...
M

El lun, 02-05-2011 a las 10:10 -0400, Richard Heck escribió:
> On 05/02/2011 10:05 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > Richard Heck wrote:
> >> LyX uses kpsewhich to figure out where to look for these files. Try
> >> Tools>TeX Information, and then hit the Rescan button.
> > Or the "Recan" button in the BibTeX settings dialog, to the same effect.
> >
> Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
> find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
> but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
> to texlive a month or so ago
> 
> rh
> 




Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/02/2011 10:13 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Richard Heck wrote:
>> Shouldn't we just rescan as part of reconfiguring? I was surprised to
>> find we do not. It's nice to be able to rescan without reconfiguring,
>> but I was shocked to find I still had the bst list from before I moved
>> to texlive a month or so ago
> The argument not to do so was that it can be too time consuming, so we do not 
> want that on every reconfigure process, IIRC.
>
It's very fast here. Under a second, I'd say.

rh



Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/02/2011 10:48 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Richard Heck wrote:
>> It's very fast here. Under a second, I'd say.
> Here (full TeXLive 2010 installation) it takes a bit longer, about 5-10 secs. 
> IMHO even this would be bearable.
>
Reconfigure takes a while, anyway.

I'll raise the issue on devel once things are moving again.

rh



Re: paths in Fedora

2011-05-02 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I agree that UNITY is junk, so I simply restarted in "ubuntu classic" 
(AKA gnome...) and all is fine.

EK

On 05/02/2011 02:32 PM, Manolo Martínez wrote:

Natty crashed spectacularly twice -- the kind of crash that calls for a
reinstall. Even if it had been rock-solid, which for me it has not been,
I don't care much for Unity, as it is now.

Manolo

El lun, 02-05-2011 a las 14:20 -0400, Steve Litt escribió:

On Monday 02 May 2011 09:14:32 Manolo Martínez wrote:

Dear all,

I've recently moved from Ubuntu to Fedora,

Just curious: Why? This is the second time in two days hearing of people
migrating away from Ubuntu.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt





--

Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.

Jules and Doris Stein Research to Prevent BlindnessProfessor

Director, Center of Excellence for Computational & System neuroscience,

The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM

Director, The laboratory of Visual & Computational Neuroscience

Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology

The Mount Sinai School of Medicine

One Gustave Levy Place

New York, NY, 10029