Re: Improving the wiki (Was: Wiki idea)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a very good question and one that I'd really appreciate some useful tips on. I think it would be enough for a start to reorder the FAQ to some more useful categories, as it is the most important entry point. Unsorted and Unsorted 1 is not really transparent. And we should try to link from the FAQ questions to the more detailed pages where appropriate. Also, people should begin to point to the FAQ in the user-lists, so that it becomes more popular, and of course add content. Jürgen
Re: Improving the wiki (Was: Wiki idea)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a very good question and one that I'd really appreciate some useful tips on. I think it would be enough for a start to reorder the FAQ to some more useful categories, as it is the most important entry point. Unsorted and Unsorted 1 is not really transparent. And we should try to link from the FAQ questions to the more detailed pages where appropriate. Also, people should begin to point to the FAQ in the user-lists, so that it becomes more popular, and of course add content. Jürgen
Re: Improving the wiki (Was: Wiki idea)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That is a very good question and one that I'd really appreciate some > useful tips on. I think it would be enough for a start to reorder the FAQ to some more useful categories, as it is the most important entry point. "Unsorted" and "Unsorted 1" is not really transparent. And we should try to link from the FAQ questions to the more detailed pages where appropriate. Also, people should begin to point to the FAQ in the user-lists, so that it becomes more popular, and of course add content. Jürgen
Re: Wiki idea
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Paul A. Rubin wrote: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a FAQ). Well, this page http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) lists that link for ages. Seriously though.. Paul, as you asked first, could you see if there are some words or description you think should be added to that sentence? Maybe it's just a matter of giving the link a longer description. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki idea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) I guess the question is What can we do to make the wiki a bit more transparent? (note that this is not directed at you; in this specific case, the people who didn't find the answer should investigate and add the links they find missing). Jürgen
Improving the wiki (Was: Wiki idea)
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) I guess the question is What can we do to make the wiki a bit more transparent? That is a very good question and one that I'd really appreciate some useful tips on. (note that this is not directed at you; in this specific case, the people who didn't find the answer should investigate and add the links they find missing). I know, but it's still considerate of you to say so. :-) The question still remains: How can we make it easier to find information on the wiki? Don't be afraid to make suggestions that require changing the structure. Or how the software operates for that matter. /Christian PS. As far as I'm concerned it is perfectly fine to require LyX users to read a certain amount of documentation. However, finding what you are looking for should be much easier than it is right now. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki idea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Paul A. Rubin wrote: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a FAQ). Well, this page http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) lists that link for ages. Seriously though.. Paul, as you asked first, could you see if there are some words or description you think should be added to that sentence? Maybe it's just a matter of giving the link a longer description. /Christian Ok, mea culpa, it didn't occur to me to look on the Wiki (since it was a BibTeX question, not a LyX question). That said, my approach to researching pretty much anything on the Wiki is to use the search facility. So for me the wording on the links page was sufficient. (It might not be a bad idea to organize the links into sections, even though there are not that many links, but I'll leave that to someone else.) What I did is edit Bibtex/PageList to indicate that the links section includes tips on styles. This is (the page list) the first page I would check after searching on bibtex, and I would give links a low priority since they could be links to anything. Short of devoting a separate page to how to pick a bibtex style, I think this is as much as we can do. On the general question of making the wiki more transparent, I think it's in pretty good shape as it is. To me, the higher priority is to get people looking at the wiki in the first place, and secondarily to let them know that it includes more than just information about LyX. To that end, I wonder if (down the road) some enterprising developer might put a link to the wiki in the LyX help menu? /Paul
Re: Wiki idea
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Paul A. Rubin wrote: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a FAQ). Well, this page http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) lists that link for ages. Seriously though.. Paul, as you asked first, could you see if there are some words or description you think should be added to that sentence? Maybe it's just a matter of giving the link a longer description. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki idea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) I guess the question is What can we do to make the wiki a bit more transparent? (note that this is not directed at you; in this specific case, the people who didn't find the answer should investigate and add the links they find missing). Jürgen
Improving the wiki (Was: Wiki idea)
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) I guess the question is What can we do to make the wiki a bit more transparent? That is a very good question and one that I'd really appreciate some useful tips on. (note that this is not directed at you; in this specific case, the people who didn't find the answer should investigate and add the links they find missing). I know, but it's still considerate of you to say so. :-) The question still remains: How can we make it easier to find information on the wiki? Don't be afraid to make suggestions that require changing the structure. Or how the software operates for that matter. /Christian PS. As far as I'm concerned it is perfectly fine to require LyX users to read a certain amount of documentation. However, finding what you are looking for should be much easier than it is right now. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki idea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Paul A. Rubin wrote: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a FAQ). Well, this page http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) lists that link for ages. Seriously though.. Paul, as you asked first, could you see if there are some words or description you think should be added to that sentence? Maybe it's just a matter of giving the link a longer description. /Christian Ok, mea culpa, it didn't occur to me to look on the Wiki (since it was a BibTeX question, not a LyX question). That said, my approach to researching pretty much anything on the Wiki is to use the search facility. So for me the wording on the links page was sufficient. (It might not be a bad idea to organize the links into sections, even though there are not that many links, but I'll leave that to someone else.) What I did is edit Bibtex/PageList to indicate that the links section includes tips on styles. This is (the page list) the first page I would check after searching on bibtex, and I would give links a low priority since they could be links to anything. Short of devoting a separate page to how to pick a bibtex style, I think this is as much as we can do. On the general question of making the wiki more transparent, I think it's in pretty good shape as it is. To me, the higher priority is to get people looking at the wiki in the first place, and secondarily to let them know that it includes more than just information about LyX. To that end, I wonder if (down the road) some enterprising developer might put a link to the wiki in the LyX help menu? /Paul
Re: Wiki idea
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Paul A. Rubin wrote: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a FAQ). Well, this page http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) lists that link for ages. Seriously though.. Paul, as you asked first, could you see if there are some words or description you think should be added to that sentence? Maybe it's just a matter of giving the link a longer description. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki idea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) I guess the question is "What can we do to make the wiki a bit more transparent?" (note that this is not directed at you; in this specific case, the people who didn't find the answer should investigate and add the links they find missing). Jürgen
Improving the wiki (Was: Wiki idea)
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) I guess the question is "What can we do to make the wiki a bit more transparent?" That is a very good question and one that I'd really appreciate some useful tips on. (note that this is not directed at you; in this specific case, the people who didn't find the answer should investigate and add the links they find missing). I know, but it's still considerate of you to say so. :-) The question still remains: How can we make it easier to find information on the wiki? Don't be afraid to make suggestions that require changing the structure. Or how the software operates for that matter. /Christian PS. As far as I'm concerned it is perfectly fine to require LyX users to read a certain amount of documentation. However, finding what you are looking for should be much easier than it is right now. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki idea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Paul A. Rubin wrote: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a FAQ). Well, this page http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-) lists that link for ages. Seriously though.. Paul, as you asked first, could you see if there are some words or description you think should be added to that sentence? Maybe it's just a matter of giving the link a longer description. /Christian Ok, mea culpa, it didn't occur to me to look on the Wiki (since it was a BibTeX question, not a LyX question). That said, my approach to researching pretty much anything on the Wiki is to use the search facility. So for me the wording on the links page was sufficient. (It might not be a bad idea to organize the links into sections, even though there are not that many links, but I'll leave that to someone else.) What I did is edit Bibtex/PageList to indicate that the links section includes tips on styles. This is (the page list) the first page I would check after searching on "bibtex", and I would give "links" a low priority since they could be links to anything. Short of devoting a separate page to "how to pick a bibtex style", I think this is as much as we can do. On the general question of making the wiki more transparent, I think it's in pretty good shape as it is. To me, the higher priority is to get people looking at the wiki in the first place, and secondarily to let them know that it includes more than just information about LyX. To that end, I wonder if (down the road) some enterprising developer might put a link to the wiki in the LyX help menu? /Paul
Re: Wiki idea
Paul A. Rubin wrote: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a FAQ). Well, this page http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links lists that link for ages. Jürgen
Re: Wiki idea
Paul A. Rubin wrote: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a FAQ). Well, this page http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links lists that link for ages. Jürgen
Re: Wiki idea
Paul A. Rubin wrote: > >> http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php > > > > Cheers, > > Charles > > Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps > someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a > FAQ). Well, this page http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links lists that link for ages. Jürgen
Wiki idea
Would the academics on the list be willing to contribute to a Wiki page that paired journals with BibTeX style files that conformed to those journals (possibly including custom styles contributed by the writers)? /Paul
Re: Wiki idea
I think that'd be an excellent idea. Paul A. Rubin wrote: Would the academics on the list be willing to contribute to a Wiki page that paired journals with BibTeX style files that conformed to those journals (possibly including custom styles contributed by the writers)? /Paul
Re: Wiki idea
LB wrote: I agree. That's a great idea. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Wiki idea
Charles de Miramon wrote: LB wrote: I agree. That's a great idea. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a FAQ). /Paul
Wiki idea
Would the academics on the list be willing to contribute to a Wiki page that paired journals with BibTeX style files that conformed to those journals (possibly including custom styles contributed by the writers)? /Paul
Re: Wiki idea
I think that'd be an excellent idea. Paul A. Rubin wrote: Would the academics on the list be willing to contribute to a Wiki page that paired journals with BibTeX style files that conformed to those journals (possibly including custom styles contributed by the writers)? /Paul
Re: Wiki idea
LB wrote: I agree. That's a great idea. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Wiki idea
Charles de Miramon wrote: LB wrote: I agree. That's a great idea. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a FAQ). /Paul
Wiki idea
Would the academics on the list be willing to contribute to a Wiki page that paired journals with BibTeX style files that conformed to those journals (possibly including custom styles contributed by the writers)? /Paul
Re: Wiki idea
I think that'd be an excellent idea. Paul A. Rubin wrote: > Would the academics on the list be willing to contribute to a Wiki > page that paired journals with BibTeX style files that conformed to > those journals (possibly including custom styles contributed by the > writers)? > > /Paul
Re: Wiki idea
LB wrote: > I agree. That's a great idea. > > http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Wiki idea
Charles de Miramon wrote: LB wrote: I agree. That's a great idea. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php Cheers, Charles Outstanding! This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a FAQ). /Paul
