Re: Writing in Japanese?
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 12:48:28PM -0500, Michael Wojcik wrote: But perhaps it wouldn't be so difficult to put this one character in using ERT? Any opinions on the best way to do this? I don't think LyX (non-CJK) can handle double-byte characters that Japanese uses. And, unfortunately, there is no CJK-LyX for Windows at the moment. One possible way to do is you write everything in LyX in English, putting a marker (like KO) at the place where Japanese Ko character appears, and you export the document to LaTeX format. Next, you use an editor which can handle Japanese and replace the marker with Japanese character. Then, use pLaTeX to compile the document (normal LaTeX won't work). One of standard distributions of pLaTeX for Windows can be obtained from http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/~kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75.html If you need write longer Japanese, I recommend you to use CJK-LyX on Linux (or else), which can be obtained from ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/tex/cjk-lyx/ -- Koji Yokota ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Department of Economics Otaru University of Commerce
Re: Writing in Japanese?
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 12:48:28PM -0500, Michael Wojcik wrote: But perhaps it wouldn't be so difficult to put this one character in using ERT? Any opinions on the best way to do this? I don't think LyX (non-CJK) can handle double-byte characters that Japanese uses. And, unfortunately, there is no CJK-LyX for Windows at the moment. One possible way to do is you write everything in LyX in English, putting a marker (like KO) at the place where Japanese Ko character appears, and you export the document to LaTeX format. Next, you use an editor which can handle Japanese and replace the marker with Japanese character. Then, use pLaTeX to compile the document (normal LaTeX won't work). One of standard distributions of pLaTeX for Windows can be obtained from http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/~kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75.html If you need write longer Japanese, I recommend you to use CJK-LyX on Linux (or else), which can be obtained from ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/tex/cjk-lyx/ -- Koji Yokota ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Department of Economics Otaru University of Commerce
Re: Writing in Japanese?
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 12:48:28PM -0500, Michael Wojcik wrote: > But perhaps it wouldn't be so difficult to put > this one character in using ERT? > > Any opinions on the best way to do this? I don't think LyX (non-CJK) can handle double-byte characters that Japanese uses. And, unfortunately, there is no CJK-LyX for Windows at the moment. One possible way to do is you write everything in LyX in English, putting a "marker" (like KO) at the place where Japanese "Ko" character appears, and you export the document to LaTeX format. Next, you use an editor which can handle Japanese and replace the marker with Japanese character. Then, use pLaTeX to compile the document (normal LaTeX won't work). One of standard distributions of pLaTeX for Windows can be obtained from http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/~kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75.html If you need write longer Japanese, I recommend you to use CJK-LyX on Linux (or else), which can be obtained from ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/tex/cjk-lyx/ -- Koji Yokota ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Department of Economics Otaru University of Commerce
Re: Writing in Japanese?
Angus Leeming wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: Can you use the current LyX program to write in Japanese? Nope, not yet. The Big Plan (TM) for the next development series after LyX 1.4 is released is to use unicode internally. I'd expect that LyX-CJK would be merged with the official LyX at that point, much as the official LyX eventually swallowed up (and improved upon) the LyX/Win port. So, for now, you'll have to use LyX-CJK. Sorry for the late followup, but this is actually a related question. In my dissertation I need to include a single kanji (SHI/ko, child, Nelson number 1264) in one chapter where I discuss Japanese given names. The original version of this chapter is written in WordPerfect for Linux, which let me insert a kanji character right into the text. In the LyX version (which I'm retyping manually, as that's probably less effort than trying to get a clean conversion and lets me edit and revise as I go), a small graphic of the character would probably be a reasonable alternative, if it's too difficult to get the character itself into the text. But perhaps it wouldn't be so difficult to put this one character in using ERT? Any opinions on the best way to do this? Final output will be PDF (probably created with pdflatex), and I'm using LyX under Windows, though I could easily install it under Linux if for some reason it was easier there. -- Michael Wojcik
Re: Writing in Japanese?
Angus Leeming wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: Can you use the current LyX program to write in Japanese? Nope, not yet. The Big Plan (TM) for the next development series after LyX 1.4 is released is to use unicode internally. I'd expect that LyX-CJK would be merged with the official LyX at that point, much as the official LyX eventually swallowed up (and improved upon) the LyX/Win port. So, for now, you'll have to use LyX-CJK. Sorry for the late followup, but this is actually a related question. In my dissertation I need to include a single kanji (SHI/ko, child, Nelson number 1264) in one chapter where I discuss Japanese given names. The original version of this chapter is written in WordPerfect for Linux, which let me insert a kanji character right into the text. In the LyX version (which I'm retyping manually, as that's probably less effort than trying to get a clean conversion and lets me edit and revise as I go), a small graphic of the character would probably be a reasonable alternative, if it's too difficult to get the character itself into the text. But perhaps it wouldn't be so difficult to put this one character in using ERT? Any opinions on the best way to do this? Final output will be PDF (probably created with pdflatex), and I'm using LyX under Windows, though I could easily install it under Linux if for some reason it was easier there. -- Michael Wojcik
Re: Writing in Japanese?
Angus Leeming wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: Can you use the current LyX program to write in Japanese? Nope, not yet. The Big Plan (TM) for the next development series after LyX 1.4 is released is to use unicode internally. I'd expect that LyX-CJK would be merged with the official LyX at that point, much as the official LyX eventually swallowed up (and improved upon) the LyX/Win port. So, for now, you'll have to use LyX-CJK. Sorry for the late followup, but this is actually a related question. In my dissertation I need to include a single kanji (SHI/ko, "child", Nelson number 1264) in one chapter where I discuss Japanese given names. The original version of this chapter is written in WordPerfect for Linux, which let me insert a kanji character right into the text. In the LyX version (which I'm retyping manually, as that's probably less effort than trying to get a clean conversion and lets me edit and revise as I go), a small graphic of the character would probably be a reasonable alternative, if it's too difficult to get the character itself into the text. But perhaps it wouldn't be so difficult to put this one character in using ERT? Any opinions on the best way to do this? Final output will be PDF (probably created with pdflatex), and I'm using LyX under Windows, though I could easily install it under Linux if for some reason it was easier there. -- Michael Wojcik
Writing in Japanese?
Can you use the current LyX program to write in Japanese? I heard something about a CJK version but I was wondering if there was any easy way to change the encoding in the window and turn it into unicode or something.
Re: Writing in Japanese?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: Can you use the current LyX program to write in Japanese? I heard something about a CJK version but I was wondering if there was any easy way to change the encoding in the window and turn it into unicode or something. Nope, not yet. The Big Plan (TM) for the next development series after LyX 1.4 is released is to use unicode internally. I'd expect that LyX-CJK would be merged with the official LyX at that point, much as the official LyX eventually swallowed up (and improved upon) the LyX/Win port. So, for now, you'll have to use LyX-CJK. -- Angus
Writing in Japanese?
Can you use the current LyX program to write in Japanese? I heard something about a CJK version but I was wondering if there was any easy way to change the encoding in the window and turn it into unicode or something.
Re: Writing in Japanese?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: Can you use the current LyX program to write in Japanese? I heard something about a CJK version but I was wondering if there was any easy way to change the encoding in the window and turn it into unicode or something. Nope, not yet. The Big Plan (TM) for the next development series after LyX 1.4 is released is to use unicode internally. I'd expect that LyX-CJK would be merged with the official LyX at that point, much as the official LyX eventually swallowed up (and improved upon) the LyX/Win port. So, for now, you'll have to use LyX-CJK. -- Angus
Writing in Japanese?
Can you use the current LyX program to write in Japanese? I heard something about a CJK version but I was wondering if there was any easy way to change the encoding in the window and turn it into unicode or something.
Re: Writing in Japanese?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: > Can you use the current LyX program to write in Japanese? I heard > something about a CJK version but I was wondering if there was any > easy way to change the encoding in the window and turn it into unicode > or something. Nope, not yet. The Big Plan (TM) for the next development series after LyX 1.4 is released is to use unicode internally. I'd expect that LyX-CJK would be merged with the official LyX at that point, much as the official LyX eventually swallowed up (and improved upon) the LyX/Win port. So, for now, you'll have to use LyX-CJK. -- Angus
