Re: inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
Richard Brown wrote: I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. When I open the converted jpg files in other software they are really clear and good, but in Lyx onscreen they are very poor and in the dvi files even worse. Many of the fine lines that indicate musical notes are patchy, and a lot have disappeared. Has anyone got any good ideas as to how to process this? First, don't convert to jpg. You can insert tiff files directly in LyX. While jpg is useful for photos, it is totally useless for anything with a low number of colors and sharp contrasts. (Screen dumps, line art, and of course black white music.) As others have pointed out, using a vector graphic format like PDF (or postcript) is even better. The reason: a bitmap image (tiff,png,jpg) has limited resolution. Therefore, it cannot look good on a device with higher resolution. Most bitmap images are made to look good on screen, a quality image looks good even on a really big screen. But that isn't enough for printing. Even a low-end printer has *much* higher resolution than the best screens, so bitmap images never gets really good in print. (Or in dvi, which really is a print preview.) Vector graphics is completely different. Such files are independent of resolution. So they work perfectly on any printing device. There is one exception, and that is when one converts a bitmap into a pdf. The bitmap doesn't become vector graphics that way. The only way is to use Sibelius, and get vector graphics from there. Perhaps it has options like export or save as, where you can specify a format like pdf or postscript (ps) or encapsulated postscript? I haven't tried Sibelius, so I don't know. I have test-printed some music using lilypond though, and have gotten nice results that way. Helge Hafting
Re: inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
Richard Brown wrote: I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. When I open the converted jpg files in other software they are really clear and good, but in Lyx onscreen they are very poor and in the dvi files even worse. Many of the fine lines that indicate musical notes are patchy, and a lot have disappeared. Has anyone got any good ideas as to how to process this? First, don't convert to jpg. You can insert tiff files directly in LyX. While jpg is useful for photos, it is totally useless for anything with a low number of colors and sharp contrasts. (Screen dumps, line art, and of course black white music.) As others have pointed out, using a vector graphic format like PDF (or postcript) is even better. The reason: a bitmap image (tiff,png,jpg) has limited resolution. Therefore, it cannot look good on a device with higher resolution. Most bitmap images are made to look good on screen, a quality image looks good even on a really big screen. But that isn't enough for printing. Even a low-end printer has *much* higher resolution than the best screens, so bitmap images never gets really good in print. (Or in dvi, which really is a print preview.) Vector graphics is completely different. Such files are independent of resolution. So they work perfectly on any printing device. There is one exception, and that is when one converts a bitmap into a pdf. The bitmap doesn't become vector graphics that way. The only way is to use Sibelius, and get vector graphics from there. Perhaps it has options like export or save as, where you can specify a format like pdf or postscript (ps) or encapsulated postscript? I haven't tried Sibelius, so I don't know. I have test-printed some music using lilypond though, and have gotten nice results that way. Helge Hafting
Re: inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
Richard Brown wrote: I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. When I open the converted jpg files in other software they are really clear and good, but in Lyx onscreen they are very poor and in the dvi files even worse. Many of the fine lines that indicate musical notes are patchy, and a lot have disappeared. Has anyone got any good ideas as to how to process this? First, don't convert to jpg. You can insert tiff files directly in LyX. While jpg is useful for photos, it is totally useless for anything with a low number of colors and sharp contrasts. (Screen dumps, line art, and of course black & white music.) As others have pointed out, using a vector graphic format like PDF (or postcript) is even better. The reason: a bitmap image (tiff,png,jpg) has limited resolution. Therefore, it cannot look good on a device with higher resolution. Most bitmap images are made to look good on screen, a quality image looks good even on a really big screen. But that isn't enough for printing. Even a low-end printer has *much* higher resolution than the best screens, so bitmap images never gets really good in print. (Or in dvi, which really is a print preview.) Vector graphics is completely different. Such files are independent of resolution. So they work perfectly on any printing device. There is one exception, and that is when one converts a bitmap into a pdf. The bitmap doesn't become vector graphics that way. The only way is to use Sibelius, and get vector graphics from there. Perhaps it has options like "export" or "save as", where you can specify a format like pdf or postscript (ps) or encapsulated postscript? I haven't tried Sibelius, so I don't know. I have test-printed some music using lilypond though, and have gotten nice results that way. Helge Hafting
inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. When I open the converted jpg files in other software they are really clear and good, but in Lyx onscreen they are very poor and in the dvi files even worse. Many of the fine lines that indicate musical notes are patchy, and a lot have disappeared. Has anyone got any good ideas as to how to process this? TIA
Re: inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
It's much better if you print them as PDFs and the include them in your Lyx document. I think this should be possible from your application. - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Richard Brown rich...@guidedelearning.com wrote: I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. When I open the converted jpg files in other software they are really clear and good, but in Lyx onscreen they are very poor and in the dvi files even worse. Many of the fine lines that indicate musical notes are patchy, and a lot have disappeared. Has anyone got any good ideas as to how to process this? TIA
Re: inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
On 2010-03-19, Richard Brown wrote: I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. JPEG is a lossy image comression format suited for photographic pictures, not for musical scores (nor text nor line drawings, ...) If a pixmap is the only option, try PNG instead. If Sibelius allows export to a vector format (PDF or SVG, say) this will be even better, because then you can scale the image without loss of quality (even if it might look bad on-screen). Günter
inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. When I open the converted jpg files in other software they are really clear and good, but in Lyx onscreen they are very poor and in the dvi files even worse. Many of the fine lines that indicate musical notes are patchy, and a lot have disappeared. Has anyone got any good ideas as to how to process this? TIA
Re: inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
It's much better if you print them as PDFs and the include them in your Lyx document. I think this should be possible from your application. - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Richard Brown rich...@guidedelearning.com wrote: I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. When I open the converted jpg files in other software they are really clear and good, but in Lyx onscreen they are very poor and in the dvi files even worse. Many of the fine lines that indicate musical notes are patchy, and a lot have disappeared. Has anyone got any good ideas as to how to process this? TIA
Re: inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
On 2010-03-19, Richard Brown wrote: I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. JPEG is a lossy image comression format suited for photographic pictures, not for musical scores (nor text nor line drawings, ...) If a pixmap is the only option, try PNG instead. If Sibelius allows export to a vector format (PDF or SVG, say) this will be even better, because then you can scale the image without loss of quality (even if it might look bad on-screen). Günter
inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. When I open the converted jpg files in other software they are really clear and good, but in Lyx onscreen they are very poor and in the dvi files even worse. Many of the fine lines that indicate musical notes are patchy, and a lot have disappeared. Has anyone got any good ideas as to how to process this? TIA
Re: inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
It's much better if you "print" them as PDFs and the include them in your Lyx document. I think this should be possible from your application. - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Richard Brownwrote: > I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. > They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried > converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the > results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. When I open the > converted jpg files in other software they are really clear and good, but in > Lyx onscreen they are very poor and in the dvi files even worse. Many of the > fine lines that indicate musical notes are patchy, and a lot have > disappeared. Has anyone got any good ideas as to how to process this? > > TIA >
Re: inserting black and white graphics (musical notation) from TIFF
On 2010-03-19, Richard Brown wrote: > I have some TIFF files exported from Sibelius, the music scoring program. > They are just high-quality images of black and white music scores. I tried > converting them to jpg in GIMP for inclusion in my Lyx manuscript, but the > results were awful- or at least, they were awful in lyx. JPEG is a lossy image comression format suited for photographic pictures, not for musical scores (nor text nor line drawings, ...) If a pixmap is the only option, try PNG instead. If Sibelius allows export to a vector format (PDF or SVG, say) this will be even better, because then you can scale the image without loss of quality (even if it might look bad on-screen). Günter