Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-10 Thread asm23

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Asm_gmail schrieb:


I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps,


Why that? It takes not longer than 5 minutes here. I haven't said that 
you should also uninstall MiKTeX. MiKTeX is the LaTeX distribution LyX 
used and can be left as is. So when you update LyX no LaTeX-packages 
will be installed as you already have them.


First, Thanks for your reply!

Oh, Sorry, I'm not referring to reinstall Miktex, I just mentioned the 
downloading and updating the package which Lyx needed will take one 
hours, if it connected to ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de;. Therefor, I 
suggest the when configure stage started, at least you should let the 
user choose a nearer server, or let the server as it is. You known, I 
was in China mainland, connect to a server in German is really too slow.



2, default tex encoding.


This is not a bug, T1 is not wrong but the correct default setting. T1 
is the font encoding and has nothing to do with the font type T1!!!
To get correct font encodings for all languages, you have to leave T1, 
LyX takes care for the cases where this must be changed (for example T2 
is for Cyrillic).


regards Uwe



Yes, as we have discussed before, If I create an empty lyx file, and 
leave the preamble empty, the generated PDF sees really badly.


Also, I opened the Introduction to Lyx.lyx, by default, there are many 
statements in preamble part.


% DO NOT ALTER THIS PREAMBLE!!!
%
%This preamble is designed to ensure that the document prints
% out as advertised. If you mess with this preamble,
% parts of the document may not print out as expected.  If you
% have problems LaTeXing this file, please contact
% the documentation team
% email: lyx-d...@lists.lyx.org

\usepackage{ifpdf} % part of the hyperref bundle
\ifpdf % if pdflatex is used

 % set fonts for nicer pdf view
 \IfFileExists{lmodern.sty}{\usepackage{lmodern}}{}

\fi % end if pdflatex is used

% the pages of the TOC is numbered roman
% and a pdf-bookmark for the TOC is added
\pagenumbering{roman}
\let\myTOC\tableofcontents
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
  \pdfbookmark[1]{\contentsname}{}
  \myTOC
  \cleardoublepage
  \pagenumbering{arabic} }

% redefine the \LyX macro for PDF bookmarks
\def\LyX{\texorpdfstring{%
  l\kern-.1667em\lower.25em\hbox{y}\kern-.125e...@}
  {LyX}}


Here are the test:

Step 1, These code will confirm that the generated PDF has font type 1 
embedded.


Step 2, But if I clear the preamble, then the PDF has many font type 3 
bitmap font embedded.


Note: All the PDFs I set the encoding T1 as tex encoding.

When I change the reference tex encoding to default, the the Step 2 
above will generate the same font type 1 PDF.


Can you give a explanation on that, seems the tex encoding can greatly 
affect the output PDF property.


Thanks very much!

regards
Asmwarrior







Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr

asm23 schrieb:

Oh, Sorry, I'm not referring to reinstall Miktex, I just mentioned the 
downloading and updating the package which Lyx needed will take one 
hours, if it connected to ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de;. Therefor, I 
suggest the when configure stage started, at least you should let the 
user choose a nearer server, or let the server as it is. You known, I 
was in China mainland, connect to a server in German is really too slow.


But I have to choose one server as default. I've had a look what was the server with the longest 
server-up time and this was tu-chemnitz.de. Letting the users choosing the server during the 
installation is not possible because MiKTeX doesn't provide this feature. I also think that this is 
something for the expert.
Nevertheless, most of the needed time is not used to download the packages, but is consumed by 
MiKTeX to uncompress, extract, and finally recompress the files form the packages.


This is not a bug, T1 is not wrong but the correct default setting. T1 
is the font encoding and has nothing to do with the font type T1!!!
To get correct font encodings for all languages, you have to leave T1, 
LyX takes care for the cases where this must be changed (for example 
T2 is for Cyrillic).


Yes, as we have discussed before, If I create an empty lyx file, and 
leave the preamble empty, the generated PDF sees really badly.


Please believe me that T1 is the font _encoding_ and not the font _type_! If you don't trust me, 
please google around or have a look at a LaTeX book.


Also, I opened the Introduction to Lyx.lyx, by default, there are many 
statements in preamble part.


Step 1, These code will confirm that the generated PDF has font type 1 
embedded.


No, it only selects the font latin modern, but only when it is installed. Yes this is a Type1 
font, but as said this has nothing to do with the font encoding.


Step 2, But if I clear the preamble, then the PDF has many font type 3 
bitmap font embedded.


That means that you have latin modern installed, that was used due to the preamble and now the LaTeX 
default font computer modern is used - which is a bitmap font (Type 3).


When I change the reference tex encoding to default, the the Step 2 
above will generate the same font type 1 PDF.


Where do you set this? In the LyX preferences under Output - LaTeX - TeX 
encoding?

Can you give a explanation on that, seems the TeX encoding can greatly 
affect the output PDF property.


No I cannot, because this doesn't work here and it will only work with MiKTeX. But LyX has to assure 
that the font encoding is correct with all LaTeX distributions. (On Windows, you can also use the 
distribution TeXLive instead of MiKTeX.)


regards Uwe


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-10 Thread asm23

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Asm_gmail schrieb:


I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps,


Why that? It takes not longer than 5 minutes here. I haven't said that 
you should also uninstall MiKTeX. MiKTeX is the LaTeX distribution LyX 
used and can be left as is. So when you update LyX no LaTeX-packages 
will be installed as you already have them.


First, Thanks for your reply!

Oh, Sorry, I'm not referring to reinstall Miktex, I just mentioned the 
downloading and updating the package which Lyx needed will take one 
hours, if it connected to ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de;. Therefor, I 
suggest the when configure stage started, at least you should let the 
user choose a nearer server, or let the server as it is. You known, I 
was in China mainland, connect to a server in German is really too slow.



2, default tex encoding.


This is not a bug, T1 is not wrong but the correct default setting. T1 
is the font encoding and has nothing to do with the font type T1!!!
To get correct font encodings for all languages, you have to leave T1, 
LyX takes care for the cases where this must be changed (for example T2 
is for Cyrillic).


regards Uwe



Yes, as we have discussed before, If I create an empty lyx file, and 
leave the preamble empty, the generated PDF sees really badly.


Also, I opened the Introduction to Lyx.lyx, by default, there are many 
statements in preamble part.


% DO NOT ALTER THIS PREAMBLE!!!
%
%This preamble is designed to ensure that the document prints
% out as advertised. If you mess with this preamble,
% parts of the document may not print out as expected.  If you
% have problems LaTeXing this file, please contact
% the documentation team
% email: lyx-d...@lists.lyx.org

\usepackage{ifpdf} % part of the hyperref bundle
\ifpdf % if pdflatex is used

 % set fonts for nicer pdf view
 \IfFileExists{lmodern.sty}{\usepackage{lmodern}}{}

\fi % end if pdflatex is used

% the pages of the TOC is numbered roman
% and a pdf-bookmark for the TOC is added
\pagenumbering{roman}
\let\myTOC\tableofcontents
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
  \pdfbookmark[1]{\contentsname}{}
  \myTOC
  \cleardoublepage
  \pagenumbering{arabic} }

% redefine the \LyX macro for PDF bookmarks
\def\LyX{\texorpdfstring{%
  l\kern-.1667em\lower.25em\hbox{y}\kern-.125e...@}
  {LyX}}


Here are the test:

Step 1, These code will confirm that the generated PDF has font type 1 
embedded.


Step 2, But if I clear the preamble, then the PDF has many font type 3 
bitmap font embedded.


Note: All the PDFs I set the encoding T1 as tex encoding.

When I change the reference tex encoding to default, the the Step 2 
above will generate the same font type 1 PDF.


Can you give a explanation on that, seems the tex encoding can greatly 
affect the output PDF property.


Thanks very much!

regards
Asmwarrior







Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr

asm23 schrieb:

Oh, Sorry, I'm not referring to reinstall Miktex, I just mentioned the 
downloading and updating the package which Lyx needed will take one 
hours, if it connected to ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de;. Therefor, I 
suggest the when configure stage started, at least you should let the 
user choose a nearer server, or let the server as it is. You known, I 
was in China mainland, connect to a server in German is really too slow.


But I have to choose one server as default. I've had a look what was the server with the longest 
server-up time and this was tu-chemnitz.de. Letting the users choosing the server during the 
installation is not possible because MiKTeX doesn't provide this feature. I also think that this is 
something for the expert.
Nevertheless, most of the needed time is not used to download the packages, but is consumed by 
MiKTeX to uncompress, extract, and finally recompress the files form the packages.


This is not a bug, T1 is not wrong but the correct default setting. T1 
is the font encoding and has nothing to do with the font type T1!!!
To get correct font encodings for all languages, you have to leave T1, 
LyX takes care for the cases where this must be changed (for example 
T2 is for Cyrillic).


Yes, as we have discussed before, If I create an empty lyx file, and 
leave the preamble empty, the generated PDF sees really badly.


Please believe me that T1 is the font _encoding_ and not the font _type_! If you don't trust me, 
please google around or have a look at a LaTeX book.


Also, I opened the Introduction to Lyx.lyx, by default, there are many 
statements in preamble part.


Step 1, These code will confirm that the generated PDF has font type 1 
embedded.


No, it only selects the font latin modern, but only when it is installed. Yes this is a Type1 
font, but as said this has nothing to do with the font encoding.


Step 2, But if I clear the preamble, then the PDF has many font type 3 
bitmap font embedded.


That means that you have latin modern installed, that was used due to the preamble and now the LaTeX 
default font computer modern is used - which is a bitmap font (Type 3).


When I change the reference tex encoding to default, the the Step 2 
above will generate the same font type 1 PDF.


Where do you set this? In the LyX preferences under Output - LaTeX - TeX 
encoding?

Can you give a explanation on that, seems the TeX encoding can greatly 
affect the output PDF property.


No I cannot, because this doesn't work here and it will only work with MiKTeX. But LyX has to assure 
that the font encoding is correct with all LaTeX distributions. (On Windows, you can also use the 
distribution TeXLive instead of MiKTeX.)


regards Uwe


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-10 Thread asm23

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Asm_gmail schrieb:


I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps,


Why that? It takes not longer than 5 minutes here. I haven't said that 
you should also uninstall MiKTeX. MiKTeX is the LaTeX distribution LyX 
used and can be left as is. So when you update LyX no LaTeX-packages 
will be installed as you already have them.


First, Thanks for your reply!

Oh, Sorry, I'm not referring to reinstall Miktex, I just mentioned the 
downloading and updating the package which Lyx needed will take one 
hours, if it connected to "ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de;. Therefor, I 
suggest the when configure stage started, at least you should let the 
user choose a nearer server, or let the server as it is. You known, I 
was in China mainland, connect to a server in German is really too slow.



2, default tex encoding.


This is not a bug, T1 is not wrong but the correct default setting. T1 
is the font encoding and has nothing to do with the font type T1!!!
To get correct font encodings for all languages, you have to leave T1, 
LyX takes care for the cases where this must be changed (for example T2 
is for Cyrillic).


regards Uwe



Yes, as we have discussed before, If I create an empty lyx file, and 
leave the preamble empty, the generated PDF sees really badly.


Also, I opened the "Introduction to Lyx.lyx", by default, there are many 
statements in preamble part.


% DO NOT ALTER THIS PREAMBLE!!!
%
%This preamble is designed to ensure that the document prints
% out as advertised. If you mess with this preamble,
% parts of the document may not print out as expected.  If you
% have problems LaTeXing this file, please contact
% the documentation team
% email: lyx-d...@lists.lyx.org

\usepackage{ifpdf} % part of the hyperref bundle
\ifpdf % if pdflatex is used

 % set fonts for nicer pdf view
 \IfFileExists{lmodern.sty}{\usepackage{lmodern}}{}

\fi % end if pdflatex is used

% the pages of the TOC is numbered roman
% and a pdf-bookmark for the TOC is added
\pagenumbering{roman}
\let\myTOC\tableofcontents
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
  \pdfbookmark[1]{\contentsname}{}
  \myTOC
  \cleardoublepage
  \pagenumbering{arabic} }

% redefine the \LyX macro for PDF bookmarks
\def\LyX{\texorpdfstring{%
  l\kern-.1667em\lower.25em\hbox{y}\kern-.125e...@}
  {LyX}}


Here are the test:

Step 1, These code will confirm that the generated PDF has "font type 1" 
embedded.


Step 2, But if I clear the preamble, then the PDF has many "font type 3" 
bitmap font embedded.


Note: All the PDFs I set the encoding T1 as tex encoding.

When I change the reference tex encoding to "default", the the Step 2 
above will generate the same "font type 1" PDF.


Can you give a explanation on that, seems the tex encoding can greatly 
affect the output PDF property.


Thanks very much!

regards
Asmwarrior







Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr

asm23 schrieb:

Oh, Sorry, I'm not referring to reinstall Miktex, I just mentioned the 
downloading and updating the package which Lyx needed will take one 
hours, if it connected to "ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de;. Therefor, I 
suggest the when configure stage started, at least you should let the 
user choose a nearer server, or let the server as it is. You known, I 
was in China mainland, connect to a server in German is really too slow.


But I have to choose one server as default. I've had a look what was the server with the longest 
server-up time and this was tu-chemnitz.de. Letting the users choosing the server during the 
installation is not possible because MiKTeX doesn't provide this feature. I also think that this is 
something for the expert.
Nevertheless, most of the needed time is not used to download the packages, but is consumed by 
MiKTeX to uncompress, extract, and finally recompress the files form the packages.


This is not a bug, T1 is not wrong but the correct default setting. T1 
is the font encoding and has nothing to do with the font type T1!!!
To get correct font encodings for all languages, you have to leave T1, 
LyX takes care for the cases where this must be changed (for example 
T2 is for Cyrillic).


Yes, as we have discussed before, If I create an empty lyx file, and 
leave the preamble empty, the generated PDF sees really badly.


Please believe me that T1 is the font _encoding_ and not the font _type_! If you don't trust me, 
please google around or have a look at a LaTeX book.


Also, I opened the "Introduction to Lyx.lyx", by default, there are many 
statements in preamble part.


Step 1, These code will confirm that the generated PDF has "font type 1" 
embedded.


No, it only selects the font "latin modern", but only when it is installed. Yes this is a Type1 
font, but as said this has nothing to do with the font encoding.


Step 2, But if I clear the preamble, then the PDF has many "font type 3" 
bitmap font embedded.


That means that you have latin modern installed, that was used due to the preamble and now the LaTeX 
default font "computer modern" is used - which is a bitmap font (Type 3).


When I change the reference tex encoding to "default", the the Step 2 
above will generate the same "font type 1" PDF.


Where do you set this? In the LyX preferences under Output -> LaTeX -> TeX 
encoding?

Can you give a explanation on that, seems the TeX encoding can greatly 
affect the output PDF property.


No I cannot, because this doesn't work here and it will only work with MiKTeX. But LyX has to assure 
that the font encoding is correct with all LaTeX distributions. (On Windows, you can also use the 
distribution TeXLive instead of MiKTeX.)


regards Uwe


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

asm23 schrieb:


Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in Lyx preference - paths, it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and cannot reproduce the problem. I 
guess what you see can only occur when you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and 
then used the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my alternative 
installer
- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

asm23 schrieb:


Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in Lyx preference - paths, it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe

OK. If I can remember, I have installed Lyx 1.6.0 standard installer 
several months ago. But finally, I turn to use alternative installer. 
So, I'm not sure there are some residue setting in the windows 
registry or in some system folders.


Now, what I can do is:

1, Uninstall Lyx 1.6.3 completely

2, I will try to delete all the residue in my system folders.

3, install Lyx 1.6.2 alternative version

4, install update installer

I will give the report then.

Thanks for your reply!








Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe


Hi, Uwe.

I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps, and as you said, 
the path can be updated correctly. I apologize that you have tested 
for me, that takes you time. I appreciate your help very much!


But I still have some installation problems. I have take many screen 
shot images, so I think it is better to create a web page.


There are two major problems.
1, configure problem when installation.
2, default tex encoding.

You can see the whole steps and the screen shot in:

http://sites.google.com/site/studylyx/lyxinstallerror

I do suggest the developers of Lyx can consider them.

Thanks very much!

regards.

Asmwarrior


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Asm_gmail schrieb:


I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps,


Why that? It takes not longer than 5 minutes here. I haven't said that you should also uninstall 
MiKTeX. MiKTeX is the LaTeX distribution LyX used and can be left as is. So when you update LyX no 
LaTeX-packages will be installed as you already have them.



and as you said, the path can be updated correctly.


Good to hear.

But I still have some installation problems. I have take many screen 
shot images, so I think it is better to create a web page.


There are two major problems.
1, configure problem when installation.


This is not bug. LyX uses much more packages than the ones available in the basic MiKTeX 
installation. Therefore all these packages are installed together with LyX to assure that you have a 
fully functional LyX. The installation mirror doesn't matter, I've chosen the one with the longest 
server up time. You can later change it to another one when you like.



2, default tex encoding.


This is not a bug, T1 is not wrong but the correct default setting. T1 is the font encoding and has 
nothing to do with the font type T1!!!
To get correct font encodings for all languages, you have to leave T1, LyX takes care for the cases 
where this must be changed (for example T2 is for Cyrillic).


regards Uwe


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

asm23 schrieb:


Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in Lyx preference - paths, it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and cannot reproduce the problem. I 
guess what you see can only occur when you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and 
then used the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my alternative 
installer
- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

asm23 schrieb:


Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in Lyx preference - paths, it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe

OK. If I can remember, I have installed Lyx 1.6.0 standard installer 
several months ago. But finally, I turn to use alternative installer. 
So, I'm not sure there are some residue setting in the windows 
registry or in some system folders.


Now, what I can do is:

1, Uninstall Lyx 1.6.3 completely

2, I will try to delete all the residue in my system folders.

3, install Lyx 1.6.2 alternative version

4, install update installer

I will give the report then.

Thanks for your reply!








Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe


Hi, Uwe.

I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps, and as you said, 
the path can be updated correctly. I apologize that you have tested 
for me, that takes you time. I appreciate your help very much!


But I still have some installation problems. I have take many screen 
shot images, so I think it is better to create a web page.


There are two major problems.
1, configure problem when installation.
2, default tex encoding.

You can see the whole steps and the screen shot in:

http://sites.google.com/site/studylyx/lyxinstallerror

I do suggest the developers of Lyx can consider them.

Thanks very much!

regards.

Asmwarrior


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Asm_gmail schrieb:


I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps,


Why that? It takes not longer than 5 minutes here. I haven't said that you should also uninstall 
MiKTeX. MiKTeX is the LaTeX distribution LyX used and can be left as is. So when you update LyX no 
LaTeX-packages will be installed as you already have them.



and as you said, the path can be updated correctly.


Good to hear.

But I still have some installation problems. I have take many screen 
shot images, so I think it is better to create a web page.


There are two major problems.
1, configure problem when installation.


This is not bug. LyX uses much more packages than the ones available in the basic MiKTeX 
installation. Therefore all these packages are installed together with LyX to assure that you have a 
fully functional LyX. The installation mirror doesn't matter, I've chosen the one with the longest 
server up time. You can later change it to another one when you like.



2, default tex encoding.


This is not a bug, T1 is not wrong but the correct default setting. T1 is the font encoding and has 
nothing to do with the font type T1!!!
To get correct font encodings for all languages, you have to leave T1, LyX takes care for the cases 
where this must be changed (for example T2 is for Cyrillic).


regards Uwe


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

asm23 schrieb:


Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in "Lyx preference -> paths", it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and cannot reproduce the problem. I 
guess what you see can only occur when you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and 
then used the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my alternative 
installer
- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

asm23 schrieb:


Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in "Lyx preference -> paths", it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe

OK. If I can remember, I have installed Lyx 1.6.0 standard installer 
several months ago. But finally, I turn to use alternative installer. 
So, I'm not sure there are some "residue setting" in the windows 
registry or in some system folders.


Now, what I can do is:

1, Uninstall Lyx 1.6.3 completely

2, I will try to "delete" all the "residue" in my system folders.

3, install Lyx 1.6.2 alternative version

4, install update installer

I will give the report then.

Thanks for your reply!








Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe


Hi, Uwe.

I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps, and as you said, 
the "path" can be updated correctly. I apologize that you have tested 
for me, that takes you time. I appreciate your help very much!


But I still have some installation problems. I have take many screen 
shot images, so I think it is better to create a web page.


There are two major problems.
1, configure problem when installation.
2, default tex encoding.

You can see the whole steps and the screen shot in:

http://sites.google.com/site/studylyx/lyxinstallerror

I do suggest the developers of Lyx can consider them.

Thanks very much!

regards.

Asmwarrior


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Asm_gmail schrieb:


I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps,


Why that? It takes not longer than 5 minutes here. I haven't said that you should also uninstall 
MiKTeX. MiKTeX is the LaTeX distribution LyX used and can be left as is. So when you update LyX no 
LaTeX-packages will be installed as you already have them.



and as you said, the "path" can be updated correctly.


Good to hear.

But I still have some installation problems. I have take many screen 
shot images, so I think it is better to create a web page.


There are two major problems.
1, configure problem when installation.


This is not bug. LyX uses much more packages than the ones available in the basic MiKTeX 
installation. Therefore all these packages are installed together with LyX to assure that you have a 
fully functional LyX. The installation mirror doesn't matter, I've chosen the one with the longest 
server up time. You can later change it to another one when you like.



2, default tex encoding.


This is not a bug, T1 is not wrong but the correct default setting. T1 is the font encoding and has 
nothing to do with the font type T1!!!
To get correct font encodings for all languages, you have to leave T1, LyX takes care for the cases 
where this must be changed (for example T2 is for Cyrillic).


regards Uwe


update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-08 Thread asm23

Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in Lyx preference - paths, it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


Note, all the folders were still LyX 1.6.2, so, the Image converter 
can't work till I change these names to lyx 1.6.3.


This is quite annoying, because, every time, after running update(AFAIK, 
every update), I have the wrong path in Lyx preference - paths.


Is there any way that I can do to solve this:

for example, use a relative path?

or the LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe can automatically change 
these paths.


Thanks.



update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-08 Thread asm23

Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in Lyx preference - paths, it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


Note, all the folders were still LyX 1.6.2, so, the Image converter 
can't work till I change these names to lyx 1.6.3.


This is quite annoying, because, every time, after running update(AFAIK, 
every update), I have the wrong path in Lyx preference - paths.


Is there any way that I can do to solve this:

for example, use a relative path?

or the LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe can automatically change 
these paths.


Thanks.



update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-08 Thread asm23

Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in "Lyx preference -> paths", it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


Note, all the folders were still "LyX 1.6.2", so, the Image converter 
can't work till I change these names to "lyx 1.6.3".


This is quite annoying, because, every time, after running update(AFAIK, 
every update), I have the wrong path in "Lyx preference -> paths".


Is there any way that I can do to solve this:

for example, use a relative path?

or the LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe can automatically change 
these paths.


Thanks.