Re: [Important] New behavior for spam handling on this list

2022-04-06 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users




Am 06.04.22 um 16:01 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes via lyx-users:


Dear all,

Until now, the handling of the list was like: messages from subscribers 
go through, other messages get discarded.


There is actually a way to filter e-mails marked as spam, and I have 
already changed all our other lists to take advantage of this information.


Today it is lyx-users' turn. The new behavior is:
* spams are automatically discarded; please notify the list if a message 
of yours just disappears. It seems to work correctly on the other lists 
that we have;

* members posts not qualified as spam go through as usual;
* remaining non-member posts are held for moderation.

The big advantage is that now non-subscribers will be able to post 
messages (with a low amount of manual moderation from my side).


Comments welcome.

JMarc


I have not gotten yet an answer to my mail March 31 2022; perhaps it 
went into the spam?


I posted this already under
tmp/lyx not a readable file
(01March22)

The error message:

/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.MQUsZMBvAPQl/Buffer_convertLyXFormatwrdYvM.lyx is not a 
readable LyX document.


since quite a number of my older (March 22) lyx files are affected and I 
can't open them, I would very much appreciate if somebody could have a 
look at it.


I found 2 lyx files close to each other, one of which gives the error 
message above, the other one is alright. I could send both privately 
(because of the size and the content) to somebody for checking them.


I use lyx 2.4.dev under Debian.

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SOLVED: lyx not a readable Lyx document

2022-04-06 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users

JMarc found out that the version was an older one.

Wolfgang

Am 06.04.22 um 17:52 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

Le 06/04/2022 à 17:44, Wolfgang Engelmann a écrit :

And this is the output from the terminal starting lyx there:

lyx24x MEINLEBEN2020-B.lyx
Warning: 609: Format not supported.
Warning: Quitting.
Error: Document format failure


This is what I thought. It seems that you have a working recent lyx 
somewhere (the 609 version) and that now you try to read the file with 
an older version.


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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

2022-04-07 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users



Am 06.04.22 um 18:05 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

Le 06/04/2022 à 17:58, Wolfgang Engelmann a écrit :



Am 06.04.22 um 17:52 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

Le 06/04/2022 à 17:44, Wolfgang Engelmann a écrit :

And this is the output from the terminal starting lyx there:

lyx24x MEINLEBEN2020-B.lyx
Warning: 609: Format not supported.
Warning: Quitting.
Error: Document format failure


This is what I thought. It seems that you have a working recent lyx 
somewhere (the 609 version) and that now you try to read the file 
with an older version.


JMarc


Thanks a lot, JMarc.

Yes, it works now, very glad it does!
What is the best way to update the 2.4 version?
Do I have to use git again ?


If you still have the directory where you built LyX, then
   gitpull
   make
should be enough (you can add "./autogen.sh" as a second line to play 
safe).


But you have a newer LyX 2.4 somewhere, since you produced a file with it!

JMarc


I remember, that one does not need a lyx2lyx in the same version, here 2.4.x
Has this changed?

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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

2022-04-07 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users




Am 08.04.22 um 07:21 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse via lyx-users:

An older version of lyx2lyx can't know about newer formats?

el


On 2022-04-07 09:55 , Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users wrote:
[...]

I remember, that one does not need a lyx2lyx in the same version, here
2.4.x
Has this changed?

Wolfgang




are you saying, the lyx2lyx is changing in the 2.4.x?
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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

2022-04-08 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users



Am 08.04.22 um 09:15 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes via lyx-users:

Le 08/04/2022 à 08:18, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit :

are you saying, the lyx2lyx is changing in the 2.4.x?


The LyX format itself changes regularly during the 2.4.0dev timeline. 
lyx2lyx is updated simultaneously.


When 2.4.0 is released, the format will be fixed and lyx2lyx (barring 
bugs) will stay the same during the lifetime of the branch.
The only exception is that the last 2.4 version will get an updated 
lyx2lyx that can read the 2.5 format.


Likewise, LyX 2.3.7 will be able to read and produce the 2.4.0 format.

JMarc



ok, I understand.

That explains the troubles I had with
lyx not a readable Lyx document

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lyx not a readable Lyx document

2022-04-09 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users

>>> I followed the advice of JMarc >

If you still have the directory where you built LyX, then
  gitpull >(should be git pull)
  make
should be enough (you can add "./autogen.sh" as a second line to play 
safe). > this I omitted


But you have a newer LyX 2.4 somewhere, since you produced a file with it!

JMarc



The LyX format itself changes regularly during the 2.4.0dev timeline. 
lyx2lyx is updated simultaneously.


When 2.4.0 is released, the format will be fixed and lyx2lyx (barring 
bugs) will stay the same during the lifetime of the branch.
The only exception is that the last 2.4 version will get an updated 
lyx2lyx that can read the 2.5 format.


Likewise, LyX 2.3.7 will be able to read and produce the 2.4.0 format.

JMarc

___

and from https://www.lyx.org/HowToUseGIT >

4.  Anonymous Git clone

From within the directory where you want to place your local copy of 
the sources, do:


 git clone git://git.lyx.org/lyx

This will make a directory lyx and download lots of files into that 
directory. (A fresh copy will need about 400MB. However, you will need a 
lot more space for the compiled version -- up to 2 GB).


You can switch to maintenance branch via git checkout 2.3.x inside the 
lyx directory.

5.  After the first download

If the code is updated, just cd to the lyx directory and say:

 git pull

This will magically download or patch only those files which have been 
changed or added, saving you (and the server) lots of time.


If you just want to check what's changed in your local copy as opposed 
to the repository, do:


 git status
__
git status
Auf Branch master
Ihr Branch ist auf demselben Stand wie 'origin/master'.

Änderungen, die nicht zum Commit vorgemerkt sind:
  (benutzen Sie "git add ...", um die Änderungen zum Commit 
vorzumerken)
  (benutzen Sie "git restore ...", um die Änderungen im 
Arbeitsverzeichnis zu verwerfen)

geändert:   po/ar.gmo 

keine Änderungen zum Commit vorgemerkt (benutzen Sie "git add" und/oder 
"git commit -a")


___

> however, after it and after
./configure --with-version-suffix=lyx24n
(I unfortunately forgot --bindir=/usr/local/bin)
make
make install

and running a lyx file I get again:

Warning: 609: Format not supported.
Warning: Quitting.
Error: Dokumentformat-Fehler

/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.VqwdxGawWrac/Buffer_convertLyXFormatZYzSIl.lyx ist kein 
lesbares LyX-Dokument.
qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 5 (BadAtom), sequence: 818, 
resource id: 0, major code: 20 (GetProperty), minor code: 0

Warning: 609: Format not supported.
Warning: Quitting.
Error: Dokumentformat-Fehler


I am confused.

Does it mean, I have to get all the git stuff again, because for some 
reason the git pull does not update the git stuff, although it says so 
in the https://www.lyx.org/HowToUseGIT ?


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Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document

2022-04-13 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users

This is a kind reminder to those, who might be able to help
Wolfgang

Am 09.04.22 um 19:15 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

 >>> I followed the advice of JMarc >

If you still have the directory where you built LyX, then
   gitpull >(should be git pull)
   make
should be enough (you can add "./autogen.sh" as a second line to play 
safe). > this I omitted


But you have a newer LyX 2.4 somewhere, since you produced a file with it!

JMarc



The LyX format itself changes regularly during the 2.4.0dev timeline. 
lyx2lyx is updated simultaneously.


When 2.4.0 is released, the format will be fixed and lyx2lyx (barring 
bugs) will stay the same during the lifetime of the branch.
The only exception is that the last 2.4 version will get an updated 
lyx2lyx that can read the 2.5 format.


Likewise, LyX 2.3.7 will be able to read and produce the 2.4.0 format.

JMarc

___

and from https://www.lyx.org/HowToUseGIT >

4.  Anonymous Git clone

 From within the directory where you want to place your local copy of 
the sources, do:


  git clone git://git.lyx.org/lyx

This will make a directory lyx and download lots of files into that 
directory. (A fresh copy will need about 400MB. However, you will need a 
lot more space for the compiled version -- up to 2 GB).


You can switch to maintenance branch via git checkout 2.3.x inside the 
lyx directory.

5.  After the first download

If the code is updated, just cd to the lyx directory and say:

  git pull

This will magically download or patch only those files which have been 
changed or added, saving you (and the server) lots of time.


If you just want to check what's changed in your local copy as opposed 
to the repository, do:


  git status
__
git status
Auf Branch master
Ihr Branch ist auf demselben Stand wie 'origin/master'.

Änderungen, die nicht zum Commit vorgemerkt sind:
   (benutzen Sie "git add ...", um die Änderungen zum Commit 
vorzumerken)
   (benutzen Sie "git restore ...", um die Änderungen im 
Arbeitsverzeichnis zu verwerfen)

     geändert:   po/ar.gmo 

keine Änderungen zum Commit vorgemerkt (benutzen Sie "git add" und/oder 
"git commit -a")


___

 > however, after it and after
./configure --with-version-suffix=lyx24n
(I unfortunately forgot --bindir=/usr/local/bin)
make
make install

and running a lyx file I get again:

Warning: 609: Format not supported.
Warning: Quitting.
Error: Dokumentformat-Fehler

/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.VqwdxGawWrac/Buffer_convertLyXFormatZYzSIl.lyx ist kein 
lesbares LyX-Dokument.
qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 5 (BadAtom), sequence: 818, 
resource id: 0, major code: 20 (GetProperty), minor code: 0

Warning: 609: Format not supported.
Warning: Quitting.
Error: Dokumentformat-Fehler

 
I am confused.

Does it mean, I have to get all the git stuff again, because for some 
reason the git pull does not update the git stuff, although it says so 
in the https://www.lyx.org/HowToUseGIT ?


Wolfgang

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nomenclature error

2022-04-14 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users

I am getting a warning >

! LaTeX Error: Lonely \item--perhaps a missing list environment

in a lyx file (Debian) with
Version 2.4.0dev (not released yet)
Built from git commit hash 53ed3dc0
Qt Version (run-time): 5.15.2 on platform xcb
Qt Version (compile-time): 5.15.2
Python detected: python3 -tt

The nomenclature item gives the correct description if I move the mouse 
over it, but if I click on it, the description is wrong (and the same in 
all following items). The pdf output of the nomeclature stops at a 
certain item


CRISPR/Cas9 technology
clustered regularly interspaced

and the following do not show the symbols (bold in my setting) anymore, 
but only the Descriptions


Did somebody have experienced this kind of error
and how would one try to find out what went wrong?

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