Re: [M100] BA files got swapped

2019-03-05 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:01 PM Eric LK  wrote:

>
> Now, just after  sending the mail, I switched the M100 on and tried
> opening the MKAX.BA (because I wanted the PGKOD.BA) and it launched
> the Rex manager
>
> When I exited and launched it again I got the right program (MKAX.BA).
> And now, PGKOD.BA is actually loading PGKOD.BA
>
> Did you say weird? :o)
>
>
Might just have needed LNKFIL. It seems to not always be called.  Different
programs and subroutines in the system invoke it so it can happen because
of something else you do that you don't realize.

-- John.


Re: [M100] BA files got swapped

2019-03-05 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
BTW, I think TS-DOS has a DO file recovery feature you can use if your
machine cold starts to restore your DO files

Also, TBACK.EXE allows fast full system backups you can use with VirtualT
for further analysis or you can just use a hex editor to extract files.

-- John.


Re: [M100] BA files got swapped

2019-03-05 Thread Eric LK
Well, something weirder happened just after I sent the previous email :
Note that I tried a couple of switch off/switch on and warm reset
cycles before sending the first email and none of that did change
anything...

Now, just after  sending the mail, I switched the M100 on and tried
opening the MKAX.BA (because I wanted the PGKOD.BA) and it launched
the Rex manager

When I exited and launched it again I got the right program (MKAX.BA).
And now, PGKOD.BA is actually loading PGKOD.BA

Did you say weird? :o)

I'm backing up again with MCOMM, just in case...

Eric


Re: [M100] BA files got swapped

2019-03-05 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Unless there's a bug in mcomm where it transfers the wrong file contents
(unlikely), I think it's likely your RAM filesystem is corrupted. Renaming
won't help.

It might be correctable, but if you have the data elsewhere I would just
cold start.

You mentioned activating and deactivating DOS. You really shouldn't have
to. Unless you're using DVI it's perfectly safe.

More likely you loaded a corrupted file

Maybe LNKFIL needs to be called? Actually, you could try that and see if it
corrects the dysfunction.

If you're interested in learning more about the RAM filesystem here's some
info:

http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Low_Level_Filesystem_Access
http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=RAM_File_Handling

-- John.


[M100] BA files got swapped

2019-03-05 Thread Eric LK
I got a weird behavior this morning: Two of the files in my M100 got swapped.
I mean that when I load one of them I get the other one...
Those are files I've been working on for a few weeks already, and I've
no idea how it has happen.

Are those issues common? Should I worry about the integrity of the other files?

I know it happened today or yesterday because yesterday I made a batch
backup using TSDOS and MCOMM for the first time since a few weeks ago
(I usually rely on REX to backup the whole RAM image).

In case it's relevant, file names are PGKOD.BA and MKAX.BA (I didn't
saved MKAX.BA with TSDOS because it's a file from another project that
was just there so I could copy/paste some part of the code).

Another thing I did which I usually don't is I activated the DOS
extension of TSDOS for a couple minute so I could get an ASCII backup
of two of the BA files using SAVE "0:PGKOD.DO",A
I did this for two BA files, and deactivated the DOS extension right away.

Should I just try to rename them or should I go cold reset and
re-upload from the PC backup?

Eric


Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 99, Issue 5

2019-03-05 Thread Kevin Unangst
Here’s one of the classic print ads for that printer:  
https://mrweese.blogspot.com/2007/06/gorilla-banana.html



(larger jpeg: 
http://bp1.blogger.com/_q8e1OYCBBQ0/RnAeNtm1DaI/AD0/HA5i_xzMN0E/s1600-h/GorillaBananaAd.jpg)








From: M100  on behalf of Wayne Lorentz 

Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 1:54:13 PM
To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 99, Issue 5

Yep.  Gorilla Banana was a real low-end dot matrix printer.  I think it was 
Epson compatible.

Lots of “tech” companies named themselves after animals back then.  Elephant 
Memory Systems made floppy disks.  There was also a CP/M machine maker named 
Zebra.

> On Mar 5, 2019, at 1:38 PM, m100-requ...@lists.bitchin100.com wrote:
>
> I think the Gorilla Banana was an inexpensive printer. If so, I'm not sure
> why that booklet is included.



Re: [M100] Olivetti M10 up on our favorite auction site

2019-03-05 Thread Tom Hoppe
The Commodore 1525 printer also utilizes the same mechanism, but different
firmware/bus architecture:

http://www.classiccmp.org/cini/pdf/Commodore/VIC-1525%20Printer%20User's%20Manual.pdf

Tom

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:49 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> I think Brian was referring to the "engine" being the same. So the
> plastics could be different.
>
> The question is, if it's the the same does the engine include just the
> mechanism or also the controller/firmware/escapes?
>
> -- John.
>


Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 99, Issue 5

2019-03-05 Thread Wayne Lorentz
Yep.  Gorilla Banana was a real low-end dot matrix printer.  I think it was 
Epson compatible.

Lots of “tech” companies named themselves after animals back then.  Elephant 
Memory Systems made floppy disks.  There was also a CP/M machine maker named 
Zebra.

> On Mar 5, 2019, at 1:38 PM, m100-requ...@lists.bitchin100.com wrote:
> 
> I think the Gorilla Banana was an inexpensive printer. If so, I'm not sure
> why that booklet is included.



Re: [M100] Olivetti M10 up on our favorite auction site

2019-03-05 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
I think Brian was referring to the "engine" being the same. So the plastics
could be different.

The question is, if it's the the same does the engine include just the
mechanism or also the controller/firmware/escapes?

-- John.


Re: [M100] Olivetti M10 up on our favorite auction site

2019-03-05 Thread Mike Stein
Really? Doesn't look like a DMP-100 to me...

https://www.ecrater.com/p/21909539/radio-shack-trs-80-dmp100-dot

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sa_steve/3178078174
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian White 
  To: m...@bitchin100.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 2:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [M100] Olivetti M10 up on our favorite auction site


  It's the same as DMP-100

  There are several printers that all used the same bizarre unique engine
  http://tandy.wiki/DMP-100






  On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:48 PM Tom Hoppe  wrote:

I think the Gorilla Banana was an inexpensive printer. If so, I'm not sure 
why that booklet is included.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/sa_steve/3178078174/



Tom


On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:22 PM Andrew Kennedy  wrote:

  Very neat, does anyone know what this Gorilla Banana thing is? I can't 
find any information through Google.



   On Mon, 04 Mar 2019 16:38:25 -0500 m100-requ...@lists.bitchin100.com 
wrote 

Subject: [M100] Olivetti M10 up on our favorite auction site
From: "Gary Weber"
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 11:27:35 -0700
To: "M100"

- Contents -


Just an FYI for anyone who was looking for one:



https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Olivetti-M10-Portable-Computer-Case-Manual-Power-Supply-Typewriter-/163576925672


Sadly there's no photos of it actually turned on and also no mention of 
how much RAM is installed.  But, it sure does looks to be in really excellent 
shape.  



-- 

Gary Weber
g...@web8201.com







  -- 

  bkw


Re: [M100] Olivetti M10 up on our favorite auction site

2019-03-05 Thread Brian White
It's the same as DMP-100
There are several printers that all used the same bizarre unique engine
http://tandy.wiki/DMP-100



On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:48 PM Tom Hoppe  wrote:

> I think the Gorilla Banana was an inexpensive printer. If so, I'm not sure
> why that booklet is included.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/sa_steve/3178078174/
>
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:22 PM Andrew Kennedy 
> wrote:
>
>> Very neat, does anyone know what this Gorilla Banana thing is? I can't
>> find any information through Google.
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, 04 Mar 2019 16:38:25 -0500 *
>> m100-requ...@lists.bitchin100.com  *
>> wrote 
>>
>> Subject: [M100] Olivetti M10 up on our favorite auction site
>> From: "Gary Weber"
>> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 11:27:35 -0700
>> To: "M100"
>>
>> - Contents -
>>
>> Just an FYI for anyone who was looking for one:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Olivetti-M10-Portable-Computer-Case-Manual-Power-Supply-Typewriter-/163576925672
>>
>> Sadly there's no photos of it actually turned on and also no mention of
>> how much RAM is installed.  But, it sure does looks to be in really
>> excellent shape.
>>
>> --
>> Gary Weber
>> g...@web8201.com
>>
>>
>>

-- 
bkw


Re: [M100] New M100 owner looking for VDI

2019-03-05 Thread Roger Mullins
Good morning-

Just wanted to send you a heads-up in case you haven't seen it. There's a
DVI up right now on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233155383681?ul_noapp=true

-Roger M

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:05 AM Joseph Grimm  wrote:

> I recently got a Model 100, and I was thinking about getting a VDI
> sometime in the future. Are these units rare? It looks like no one is
> selling them on Ebay, so that makes me think they're not all-too-common,
> and perhaps expensive. I'm not looking to buy one now, just asking if it is
> worth the effort to try to get one in a couple months.
>


Re: [M100] Morse decoder for T102

2019-03-05 Thread Jan van Bruggen
Hi Peter,

thanks for your explanation of why it is hard to decipher human
created morse code transmissions.

I found this "Morse code discriminator" in Ron Wiesen's member upload area.
(http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?direction=0&order=&directory=Ron%20Wiesen/Morse%20code%20Discriminator%20for%20Model%2010x&;)
So this is only for weather balloon data transmission as he describes
in one of the files?

I don't know if Ron is still active on this mailing list?
If you are, Ron, maybe you can help me a bit with this?

Greetings From The Netherlands, Jan


Op ma 25 feb. 2019 om 04:35 schreef Peter Noeth :
>
> Decoding Morse would be difficult, given the Model 102 clock speed of only 
> 2.4MHz. It would have to be written in assembly language to even have a 
> chance. Plus you would need an external hardware slicer of some kind to 
> digitize the ON / OFF tones being received by your radio..
>
> I have the MFJ Morse decoder, and it does a terrible job decoding unless the 
> sending end is being done by machine (computer, W1AW, etc.). The variability 
> of hand sending speed is too much for it to get reliable copy. So I would 
> expect that the Model 102 would not do well either.
>
> In its day, the Model 100 (predecessor to the 102) was used in Amateur Radio 
> as a "Text to Morse" sending only unit, a contest logging computer, a "text 
> terminal" for the early digital modes when used with a TNC (terminal node 
> controller), and as a TTY terminal (with an external hardware interface to 
> the radio).
>
> A search of some of the old Amateur Radio publications of the late 70's to 
> late 80's should net articles as to what was being done with the early 
> computers of this time that could be applied to the Model 102. I know there 
> were projects using the TRS-80 Model I and PET computers, as well as some of 
> the S-100 based kit computers.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Peter, WB6NGK
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 11:49:44 +0100
>> From: Jan van Bruggen 
>> To: Model 100 Discussion 
>> Subject: [M100] Morse decoder for T102
>> Message-ID:
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> It has been a long time since I wrote something here, but I have been
>> lurking and reading most of what comes along here.
>>
>> Now that I am getting acquainted with ham radio, I thought it would be
>> great to make it into a project that also involves the 102.
>>
>> The first thing that came to mind is decoding Morse code.
>> I have found Ron Wiesen's decoder, and I already have ordered parts
>> for the hardware of the decoder.
>>
>> Are there any other programs available for decoding Morse on a 102?
>> Maybe some other handy tools?
>>
>> Greetings from The Netherlands, Jan
>>
>