Re: [M100] AT Command set
Jeff Gonzales To:m100@bitchin100.comSat, Feb 20 at 7:37 PMWow, crazy. I guess AT commands have come a long way from ATDT9,,,1800555 hahaha. So, what protocol is the device expecting the other end to communicate with? I haven't commented here in a couple of years, but read the posts. In this instance, I thought I'd mention that I was present when the 'AT' command set was initially created. ~1980, by my recollection. Regards to all, John
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
" Do the AT commands now let you specify an IP address or something?" The nail head... hit it, you did. There is no standard for these... these AT extensions are custom to this devices, written up their documentation. The general idea being to make the "modem" compatible with legacy terminal program modem config and dial-macro features.
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
On Feb 20, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > So, what protocol is the device expecting the other end to communicate with? TCP, optionally with some telnet in band control sequences, but mostly just raw TCP. I have used it to talk plain ascii to a telnettable BBS, I have used it to telnet into Linux systems, I have experimented with TPDD protocol and TS-DOS (with arguably less success than John -- it always failed trying to use any directory extensions), I've hooked it up to my Amiga and done zmodem transfers with lrzsz as well as used it with ADF writing utilities to write real floppies from remote image files, and really it works with anything that can talk to a normal tty device over TCP. I have a similar unit for my Commodore 64 and have mostly used it for telnet BBSes and file transfers.
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
Is the manual online? I'm just curious how it works. Normally I telnet into BBS' these days to play TradeWars 2002 (lol). Either that or use PuTTY. Do the AT commands now let you specify an IP address or something? What protocol is used to make the connection? On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 6:17 PM Steve Baker wrote: > Hello again Jeff! > > Feel free to check out the websites for more details on either / both of > these gadgets, they work great. Once you connect to your home WiFi (easy) > then it’s a simple Hayes command to connect... the documentation is quite > comprehensive. > > If you’re still not sure after researching this a bit with the links > provided earlier, I’d be happy to make a video of me connecting to > something. And I do like the WiModem232 better since the screen is really > helpful to see what the board is doing. > > Cheers, > SB > > — > Greetings from Steve Baker > Gravity brings me down... > > > On Feb 20, 2021, at 5:23 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > > > How do you connect to remote BBS' with this? I have only done it with > telnet on a computer. How do AT commands work on wifi? Does the device > have a SIM card and, of so, are the remote BBS' still using modems?? > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 4:54 PM Brian White wrote: > >> The post you quoted showed how it's connected, so I don't know what you >> mean. >> >> Do you mean how do you connect to your wifi? Or how do you connect to a >> remote BBS? >> >> It's all done by AT commands described in the manual like any other modem. >> >> On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 11:21 AM Jeff Gonzales >> wrote: >> >>> How does connectivity work for these devices? >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:45 PM Steve Baker >>> wrote: >>> Yep, exactly. I ordered two of this 25-pin M:M gender changer (one for my WiModem232 and one for the GuruModem, ‘cos I didn’t want to keep swapping them in and out). https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066HP5G/ Here are photos of both modems connected to my Tandy 102: https://imgur.com/a/e4BppYA (And it looks like I have a firmware update for the WiModem232, per the on-screen message… how fun!) Cheers and thanks, SB -- Greetings from Steve Baker “Gravity brings me down…” On Jan 12, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Brian White wrote: This thing helps with attaching the WiModem232 to a 100/200/NEC https://github.com/bkw777/WiModem_to_100 https://photos.app.goo.gl/hjoC3vnfZxWbFPRW6 The serial port on 102 is upside down, so you can't use this on 102, but on 102 you can use a generic mini gender-changer. The wimodem232 sticks straight out the back instead of up, but at least the led and/or screen faces up. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=db25+mini+gender+changer+male -- bkw On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 3:02 PM Steve Baker wrote: > Fantastic, welcome Jim! > > I’m pretty new around here too, just got my first T102 late-spring and > have been having a blast. This community is nothing short of amazing and I > learn stuff every single day. > > I'd greatly appreciate hearing anyone's experiences with > serial-to-WiFi converters connecting their M100s to networks, and where > they've found the best prices. Is it simply a matter of using TERM on the > M100 set to a particular bit-rate, number of bits per character, parity, > etc., and then connecting to another computer by specifying the IP address > of the converter via a terminal program on the remote system, such as > PuTTY, HyperTerm, etc.? > > > Regarding Serial-to-WiFi connections, I have both of these (they both > should work on the M100): > > https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232OLED > > https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/store/#!/Gurumodem/p/134166147/category=28313042 > > The first is the WiModem232 and the second is the GuruModem. I love > them both in different ways, but usually use WiModem because of the screen > (it’s really fun to use). The GuruModem has a microSD card slot but I > haven’t learned how to receive or send files to/from the onboard storage. > When I figure that out, I might use it a lot more. > > Both of them generally operate the same way, using an expanded Hayes > command set to get out and about. Yep we use Term, set the stat as > appropriate, and then issue the atdt domain.com:port command to > connect (IP addresses work too). Cmds like ati (information), at*b (set > baud rate), ath (hangup), etc. are pretty well documented. > > I've heard that rechargeable batteries can be used in M100s by > changing a resistor inside a unit, but I can't find any details about the > value of the new resistor, which one it is on the PCB, etc. Also, is the > resistor value dependent on which battery chemistry is involved (NiCd, > NiMH, Li
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
Wow, crazy. I guess AT commands have come a long way from ATDT9,,,1800555 hahaha. So, what protocol is the device expecting the other end to communicate with? On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 5:50 PM Joshua O'Keefe wrote: > On Feb 20, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > > > > How do you connect to remote BBS' with this? > > ATDThostname.domain.com: > > > I have only done it with telnet on a computer. How do AT commands work > on wifi? > > There are some AT commands to set SSID and WPA key. Then you ATDT to the > remote endpoint and it creates a bridge between the serial port and a TCP > connection. > > > Does the device have a SIM card and, of so, are the remote BBS' still > using modems?? > > I don't know about the SIM-using devices but there are certainly a handful > of BBSes out there that are answering phones with modems. > > >
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
I seem to recall WiModem232 worked for me after fiddling with a patched TS-DOS. It would be nice project for someone just to completely rework the timeout code in TS-DOS. And there's always TEENY which doesn't do any timeouts. -- John.
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
..all this talk of wifi!. A while back I did some experimentation with TS-DOS running over Bluetooth, and then across a public IP network to an instance of LaddieAlpha running at home. Almost worked ;) Wasn't reliable, latency + delays that can occur anywhere in the byte stream. I wonder if this is a more reliable way of sending TPDD protocol over the wide-area network?
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
Hello again Jeff! Feel free to check out the websites for more details on either / both of these gadgets, they work great. Once you connect to your home WiFi (easy) then it’s a simple Hayes command to connect... the documentation is quite comprehensive. If you’re still not sure after researching this a bit with the links provided earlier, I’d be happy to make a video of me connecting to something. And I do like the WiModem232 better since the screen is really helpful to see what the board is doing. Cheers, SB — Greetings from Steve Baker Gravity brings me down... > On Feb 20, 2021, at 5:23 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > > > How do you connect to remote BBS' with this? I have only done it with telnet > on a computer. How do AT commands work on wifi? Does the device have a SIM > card and, of so, are the remote BBS' still using modems?? > >> On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 4:54 PM Brian White wrote: >> The post you quoted showed how it's connected, so I don't know what you mean. >> >> Do you mean how do you connect to your wifi? Or how do you connect to a >> remote BBS? >> >> It's all done by AT commands described in the manual like any other modem. >> >>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 11:21 AM Jeff Gonzales wrote: >>> How does connectivity work for these devices? >>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:45 PM Steve Baker wrote: Yep, exactly. I ordered two of this 25-pin M:M gender changer (one for my WiModem232 and one for the GuruModem, ‘cos I didn’t want to keep swapping them in and out). https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066HP5G/ Here are photos of both modems connected to my Tandy 102: https://imgur.com/a/e4BppYA (And it looks like I have a firmware update for the WiModem232, per the on-screen message… how fun!) Cheers and thanks, SB -- Greetings from Steve Baker “Gravity brings me down…” > On Jan 12, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Brian White wrote: > > This thing helps with attaching the WiModem232 to a 100/200/NEC > https://github.com/bkw777/WiModem_to_100 > https://photos.app.goo.gl/hjoC3vnfZxWbFPRW6 > > The serial port on 102 is upside down, so you can't use this on 102, but > on 102 you can use a generic mini gender-changer. > The wimodem232 sticks straight out the back instead of up, but at least > the led and/or screen faces up. > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=db25+mini+gender+changer+male > > -- > bkw > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 3:02 PM Steve Baker >> wrote: >> Fantastic, welcome Jim! >> >> I’m pretty new around here too, just got my first T102 late-spring and >> have been having a blast. This community is nothing short of amazing and >> I learn stuff every single day. >> >>> I'd greatly appreciate hearing anyone's experiences with serial-to-WiFi >>> converters connecting their M100s to networks, and where they've found >>> the best prices. Is it simply a matter of using TERM on the M100 set >>> to a particular bit-rate, number of bits per character, parity, etc., >>> and then connecting to another computer by specifying the IP address of >>> the converter via a terminal program on the remote system, such as >>> PuTTY, HyperTerm, etc.? >> >> >> Regarding Serial-to-WiFi connections, I have both of these (they both >> should work on the M100): >> >> https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232OLED >> https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/store/#!/Gurumodem/p/134166147/category=28313042 >> >> The first is the WiModem232 and the second is the GuruModem. I love them >> both in different ways, but usually use WiModem because of the screen >> (it’s really fun to use). The GuruModem has a microSD card slot but I >> haven’t learned how to receive or send files to/from the onboard >> storage. When I figure that out, I might use it a lot more. >> >> Both of them generally operate the same way, using an expanded Hayes >> command set to get out and about. Yep we use Term, set the stat as >> appropriate, and then issue the atdt domain.com:port command to connect >> (IP addresses work too). Cmds like ati (information), at*b (set baud >> rate), ath (hangup), etc. are pretty well documented. >> >>> I've heard that rechargeable batteries can be used in M100s by changing >>> a resistor inside a unit, but I can't find any details about the value >>> of the new resistor, which one it is on the PCB, etc. Also, is the >>> resistor value dependent on which battery chemistry is involved (NiCd, >>> NiMH, LiH, LiPoly, LiFePO4, etc.)? >> >> >> Regarding the use of rechargeable batteries, quite honestly I’ve only >> used rechargeable batteries since I got my first T102 (OK thus far). >> This probably won’t help but someone posted
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
On Feb 20, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > > How do you connect to remote BBS' with this? ATDThostname.domain.com: > I have only done it with telnet on a computer. How do AT commands work on > wifi? There are some AT commands to set SSID and WPA key. Then you ATDT to the remote endpoint and it creates a bridge between the serial port and a TCP connection. > Does the device have a SIM card and, of so, are the remote BBS' still using > modems?? I don't know about the SIM-using devices but there are certainly a handful of BBSes out there that are answering phones with modems.
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
Having a SIM sound cool, but what does the other side have? Is it possible to have another Guru on the other side? On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 4:52 PM Steve Baker wrote: > Hello Jeff! > > Both the GuruModem and the WiModem232 work very well with my T102s. Both > create solid connections (the Model T’s baud rate is the only bottleneck). > > Each has their own unique advantages (GuruModem has a MicroSIM card, while > WiModem232 has a terrific screen so you can see all the action. Great stuff! > > Hope this helps, and happy to send pics of each/both in action if you’re > curious. > > Cheers, > SB > > — > Greetings from Steve Baker > Gravity brings me down... > > > On Feb 20, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > > > How does connectivity work for these devices? > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:45 PM Steve Baker > wrote: > >> Yep, exactly. I ordered two of this 25-pin M:M gender changer (one for my >> WiModem232 and one for the GuruModem, ‘cos I didn’t want to keep swapping >> them in and out). >> >> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066HP5G/ >> >> Here are photos of both modems connected to my Tandy 102: >> >> https://imgur.com/a/e4BppYA >> >> (And it looks like I have a firmware update for the WiModem232, per the >> on-screen message… how fun!) >> >> Cheers and thanks, >> SB >> >> -- >> Greetings from Steve Baker >> “Gravity brings me down…” >> >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Brian White wrote: >> >> This thing helps with attaching the WiModem232 to a 100/200/NEC >> https://github.com/bkw777/WiModem_to_100 >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/hjoC3vnfZxWbFPRW6 >> >> The serial port on 102 is upside down, so you can't use this on 102, but >> on 102 you can use a generic mini gender-changer. >> The wimodem232 sticks straight out the back instead of up, but at least >> the led and/or screen faces up. >> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=db25+mini+gender+changer+male >> >> -- >> bkw >> >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 3:02 PM Steve Baker >> wrote: >> >>> Fantastic, welcome Jim! >>> >>> I’m pretty new around here too, just got my first T102 late-spring and >>> have been having a blast. This community is nothing short of amazing and I >>> learn stuff every single day. >>> >>> I'd greatly appreciate hearing anyone's experiences with serial-to-WiFi >>> converters connecting their M100s to networks, and where they've found the >>> best prices. Is it simply a matter of using TERM on the M100 set to a >>> particular bit-rate, number of bits per character, parity, etc., and then >>> connecting to another computer by specifying the IP address of the >>> converter via a terminal program on the remote system, such as PuTTY, >>> HyperTerm, etc.? >>> >>> >>> Regarding Serial-to-WiFi connections, I have both of these (they both >>> should work on the M100): >>> >>> https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232OLED >>> >>> https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/store/#!/Gurumodem/p/134166147/category=28313042 >>> >>> The first is the WiModem232 and the second is the GuruModem. I love them >>> both in different ways, but usually use WiModem because of the screen (it’s >>> really fun to use). The GuruModem has a microSD card slot but I haven’t >>> learned how to receive or send files to/from the onboard storage. When I >>> figure that out, I might use it a lot more. >>> >>> Both of them generally operate the same way, using an expanded Hayes >>> command set to get out and about. Yep we use Term, set the stat as >>> appropriate, and then issue the atdt domain.com:port command to connect >>> (IP addresses work too). Cmds like ati (information), at*b (set baud rate), >>> ath (hangup), etc. are pretty well documented. >>> >>> I've heard that rechargeable batteries can be used in M100s by changing >>> a resistor inside a unit, but I can't find any details about the value of >>> the new resistor, which one it is on the PCB, etc. Also, is the resistor >>> value dependent on which battery chemistry is involved (NiCd, NiMH, LiH, >>> LiPoly, LiFePO4, etc.)? >>> >>> >>> Regarding the use of rechargeable batteries, quite honestly I’ve only >>> used rechargeable batteries since I got my first T102 (OK thus far). This >>> probably won’t help but someone posted technical bulletins for the Model >>> 200 on installing a nicad upgrade (I uploaded copies of these to my files >>> area in Club100); not sure if that’d work for the M100. >>> >>> Cheers and have a great weekend, >>> SB >>> >>> -- >>> Greetings from Steve Baker >>> “Gravity brings me down…” >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Jim Manley wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I just joined the flock and I'm an Original Flavor owner of a 32 KB M100 >>> when they were going for $399 (worth $964.98 today) in the mid-1980s, and >>> now I can add nine more to my collection for that much in >>> inflation-adjusted value! I would have waited for that price decrease, but >>> then I wouldn't have gotten so much done writing code and docs whenever and >>> wherever I wanted, long before the ov
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
How do you connect to remote BBS' with this? I have only done it with telnet on a computer. How do AT commands work on wifi? Does the device have a SIM card and, of so, are the remote BBS' still using modems?? On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 4:54 PM Brian White wrote: > The post you quoted showed how it's connected, so I don't know what you > mean. > > Do you mean how do you connect to your wifi? Or how do you connect to a > remote BBS? > > It's all done by AT commands described in the manual like any other modem. > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 11:21 AM Jeff Gonzales > wrote: > >> How does connectivity work for these devices? >> >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:45 PM Steve Baker >> wrote: >> >>> Yep, exactly. I ordered two of this 25-pin M:M gender changer (one for >>> my WiModem232 and one for the GuruModem, ‘cos I didn’t want to keep >>> swapping them in and out). >>> >>> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066HP5G/ >>> >>> Here are photos of both modems connected to my Tandy 102: >>> >>> https://imgur.com/a/e4BppYA >>> >>> (And it looks like I have a firmware update for the WiModem232, per the >>> on-screen message… how fun!) >>> >>> Cheers and thanks, >>> SB >>> >>> -- >>> Greetings from Steve Baker >>> “Gravity brings me down…” >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Brian White wrote: >>> >>> This thing helps with attaching the WiModem232 to a 100/200/NEC >>> https://github.com/bkw777/WiModem_to_100 >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/hjoC3vnfZxWbFPRW6 >>> >>> The serial port on 102 is upside down, so you can't use this on 102, but >>> on 102 you can use a generic mini gender-changer. >>> The wimodem232 sticks straight out the back instead of up, but at least >>> the led and/or screen faces up. >>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=db25+mini+gender+changer+male >>> >>> -- >>> bkw >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 3:02 PM Steve Baker >>> wrote: >>> Fantastic, welcome Jim! I’m pretty new around here too, just got my first T102 late-spring and have been having a blast. This community is nothing short of amazing and I learn stuff every single day. I'd greatly appreciate hearing anyone's experiences with serial-to-WiFi converters connecting their M100s to networks, and where they've found the best prices. Is it simply a matter of using TERM on the M100 set to a particular bit-rate, number of bits per character, parity, etc., and then connecting to another computer by specifying the IP address of the converter via a terminal program on the remote system, such as PuTTY, HyperTerm, etc.? Regarding Serial-to-WiFi connections, I have both of these (they both should work on the M100): https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232OLED https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/store/#!/Gurumodem/p/134166147/category=28313042 The first is the WiModem232 and the second is the GuruModem. I love them both in different ways, but usually use WiModem because of the screen (it’s really fun to use). The GuruModem has a microSD card slot but I haven’t learned how to receive or send files to/from the onboard storage. When I figure that out, I might use it a lot more. Both of them generally operate the same way, using an expanded Hayes command set to get out and about. Yep we use Term, set the stat as appropriate, and then issue the atdt domain.com:port command to connect (IP addresses work too). Cmds like ati (information), at*b (set baud rate), ath (hangup), etc. are pretty well documented. I've heard that rechargeable batteries can be used in M100s by changing a resistor inside a unit, but I can't find any details about the value of the new resistor, which one it is on the PCB, etc. Also, is the resistor value dependent on which battery chemistry is involved (NiCd, NiMH, LiH, LiPoly, LiFePO4, etc.)? Regarding the use of rechargeable batteries, quite honestly I’ve only used rechargeable batteries since I got my first T102 (OK thus far). This probably won’t help but someone posted technical bulletins for the Model 200 on installing a nicad upgrade (I uploaded copies of these to my files area in Club100); not sure if that’d work for the M100. Cheers and have a great weekend, SB -- Greetings from Steve Baker “Gravity brings me down…” On Jan 9, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Jim Manley wrote: Hi everyone, I just joined the flock and I'm an Original Flavor owner of a 32 KB M100 when they were going for $399 (worth $964.98 today) in the mid-1980s, and now I can add nine more to my collection for that much in inflation-adjusted value! I would have waited for that price decrease, but then I wouldn't have gotten so much done writing code and docs whenever and wherever I wanted, long before the overly-expensive, poser, follow-on
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
The post you quoted showed how it's connected, so I don't know what you mean. Do you mean how do you connect to your wifi? Or how do you connect to a remote BBS? It's all done by AT commands described in the manual like any other modem. On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 11:21 AM Jeff Gonzales wrote: > How does connectivity work for these devices? > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:45 PM Steve Baker > wrote: > >> Yep, exactly. I ordered two of this 25-pin M:M gender changer (one for my >> WiModem232 and one for the GuruModem, ‘cos I didn’t want to keep swapping >> them in and out). >> >> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066HP5G/ >> >> Here are photos of both modems connected to my Tandy 102: >> >> https://imgur.com/a/e4BppYA >> >> (And it looks like I have a firmware update for the WiModem232, per the >> on-screen message… how fun!) >> >> Cheers and thanks, >> SB >> >> -- >> Greetings from Steve Baker >> “Gravity brings me down…” >> >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Brian White wrote: >> >> This thing helps with attaching the WiModem232 to a 100/200/NEC >> https://github.com/bkw777/WiModem_to_100 >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/hjoC3vnfZxWbFPRW6 >> >> The serial port on 102 is upside down, so you can't use this on 102, but >> on 102 you can use a generic mini gender-changer. >> The wimodem232 sticks straight out the back instead of up, but at least >> the led and/or screen faces up. >> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=db25+mini+gender+changer+male >> >> -- >> bkw >> >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 3:02 PM Steve Baker >> wrote: >> >>> Fantastic, welcome Jim! >>> >>> I’m pretty new around here too, just got my first T102 late-spring and >>> have been having a blast. This community is nothing short of amazing and I >>> learn stuff every single day. >>> >>> I'd greatly appreciate hearing anyone's experiences with serial-to-WiFi >>> converters connecting their M100s to networks, and where they've found the >>> best prices. Is it simply a matter of using TERM on the M100 set to a >>> particular bit-rate, number of bits per character, parity, etc., and then >>> connecting to another computer by specifying the IP address of the >>> converter via a terminal program on the remote system, such as PuTTY, >>> HyperTerm, etc.? >>> >>> >>> Regarding Serial-to-WiFi connections, I have both of these (they both >>> should work on the M100): >>> >>> https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232OLED >>> >>> https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/store/#!/Gurumodem/p/134166147/category=28313042 >>> >>> The first is the WiModem232 and the second is the GuruModem. I love them >>> both in different ways, but usually use WiModem because of the screen (it’s >>> really fun to use). The GuruModem has a microSD card slot but I haven’t >>> learned how to receive or send files to/from the onboard storage. When I >>> figure that out, I might use it a lot more. >>> >>> Both of them generally operate the same way, using an expanded Hayes >>> command set to get out and about. Yep we use Term, set the stat as >>> appropriate, and then issue the atdt domain.com:port command to connect >>> (IP addresses work too). Cmds like ati (information), at*b (set baud rate), >>> ath (hangup), etc. are pretty well documented. >>> >>> I've heard that rechargeable batteries can be used in M100s by changing >>> a resistor inside a unit, but I can't find any details about the value of >>> the new resistor, which one it is on the PCB, etc. Also, is the resistor >>> value dependent on which battery chemistry is involved (NiCd, NiMH, LiH, >>> LiPoly, LiFePO4, etc.)? >>> >>> >>> Regarding the use of rechargeable batteries, quite honestly I’ve only >>> used rechargeable batteries since I got my first T102 (OK thus far). This >>> probably won’t help but someone posted technical bulletins for the Model >>> 200 on installing a nicad upgrade (I uploaded copies of these to my files >>> area in Club100); not sure if that’d work for the M100. >>> >>> Cheers and have a great weekend, >>> SB >>> >>> -- >>> Greetings from Steve Baker >>> “Gravity brings me down…” >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Jim Manley wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I just joined the flock and I'm an Original Flavor owner of a 32 KB M100 >>> when they were going for $399 (worth $964.98 today) in the mid-1980s, and >>> now I can add nine more to my collection for that much in >>> inflation-adjusted value! I would have waited for that price decrease, but >>> then I wouldn't have gotten so much done writing code and docs whenever and >>> wherever I wanted, long before the overly-expensive, poser, follow-on >>> lap-crushers came along. >>> >>> I'd greatly appreciate hearing anyone's experiences with serial-to-WiFi >>> converters connecting their M100s to networks, and where they've found the >>> best prices. Is it simply a matter of using TERM on the M100 set to a >>> particular bit-rate, number of bits per character, parity, etc., and then >>> connecting to another computer by specifying the IP ad
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
Hello Jeff! Both the GuruModem and the WiModem232 work very well with my T102s. Both create solid connections (the Model T’s baud rate is the only bottleneck). Each has their own unique advantages (GuruModem has a MicroSIM card, while WiModem232 has a terrific screen so you can see all the action. Great stuff! Hope this helps, and happy to send pics of each/both in action if you’re curious. Cheers, SB — Greetings from Steve Baker Gravity brings me down... > On Feb 20, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > > > How does connectivity work for these devices? > >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:45 PM Steve Baker wrote: >> Yep, exactly. I ordered two of this 25-pin M:M gender changer (one for my >> WiModem232 and one for the GuruModem, ‘cos I didn’t want to keep swapping >> them in and out). >> >> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066HP5G/ >> >> Here are photos of both modems connected to my Tandy 102: >> >> https://imgur.com/a/e4BppYA >> >> (And it looks like I have a firmware update for the WiModem232, per the >> on-screen message… how fun!) >> >> Cheers and thanks, >> SB >> >> -- >> Greetings from Steve Baker >> “Gravity brings me down…” >> >> >> >>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Brian White wrote: >>> >>> This thing helps with attaching the WiModem232 to a 100/200/NEC >>> https://github.com/bkw777/WiModem_to_100 >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/hjoC3vnfZxWbFPRW6 >>> >>> The serial port on 102 is upside down, so you can't use this on 102, but on >>> 102 you can use a generic mini gender-changer. >>> The wimodem232 sticks straight out the back instead of up, but at least the >>> led and/or screen faces up. >>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=db25+mini+gender+changer+male >>> >>> -- >>> bkw >>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 3:02 PM Steve Baker wrote: Fantastic, welcome Jim! I’m pretty new around here too, just got my first T102 late-spring and have been having a blast. This community is nothing short of amazing and I learn stuff every single day. > I'd greatly appreciate hearing anyone's experiences with serial-to-WiFi > converters connecting their M100s to networks, and where they've found > the best prices. Is it simply a matter of using TERM on the M100 set to > a particular bit-rate, number of bits per character, parity, etc., and > then connecting to another computer by specifying the IP address of the > converter via a terminal program on the remote system, such as PuTTY, > HyperTerm, etc.? Regarding Serial-to-WiFi connections, I have both of these (they both should work on the M100): https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232OLED https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/store/#!/Gurumodem/p/134166147/category=28313042 The first is the WiModem232 and the second is the GuruModem. I love them both in different ways, but usually use WiModem because of the screen (it’s really fun to use). The GuruModem has a microSD card slot but I haven’t learned how to receive or send files to/from the onboard storage. When I figure that out, I might use it a lot more. Both of them generally operate the same way, using an expanded Hayes command set to get out and about. Yep we use Term, set the stat as appropriate, and then issue the atdt domain.com:port command to connect (IP addresses work too). Cmds like ati (information), at*b (set baud rate), ath (hangup), etc. are pretty well documented. > I've heard that rechargeable batteries can be used in M100s by changing a > resistor inside a unit, but I can't find any details about the value of > the new resistor, which one it is on the PCB, etc. Also, is the resistor > value dependent on which battery chemistry is involved (NiCd, NiMH, LiH, > LiPoly, LiFePO4, etc.)? Regarding the use of rechargeable batteries, quite honestly I’ve only used rechargeable batteries since I got my first T102 (OK thus far). This probably won’t help but someone posted technical bulletins for the Model 200 on installing a nicad upgrade (I uploaded copies of these to my files area in Club100); not sure if that’d work for the M100. Cheers and have a great weekend, SB -- Greetings from Steve Baker “Gravity brings me down…” > On Jan 9, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Jim Manley wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I just joined the flock and I'm an Original Flavor owner of a 32 KB M100 > when they were going for $399 (worth $964.98 today) in the mid-1980s, and > now I can add nine more to my collection for that much in > inflation-adjusted value! I would have waited for that price decrease, > but then I wouldn't have gotten so much done writing code and docs > whenever and wherever I wanted, long before the overly-expensive, poser, > follow-
Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries
How does connectivity work for these devices? On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:45 PM Steve Baker wrote: > Yep, exactly. I ordered two of this 25-pin M:M gender changer (one for my > WiModem232 and one for the GuruModem, ‘cos I didn’t want to keep swapping > them in and out). > > https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066HP5G/ > > Here are photos of both modems connected to my Tandy 102: > > https://imgur.com/a/e4BppYA > > (And it looks like I have a firmware update for the WiModem232, per the > on-screen message… how fun!) > > Cheers and thanks, > SB > > -- > Greetings from Steve Baker > “Gravity brings me down…” > > > > On Jan 12, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Brian White wrote: > > This thing helps with attaching the WiModem232 to a 100/200/NEC > https://github.com/bkw777/WiModem_to_100 > https://photos.app.goo.gl/hjoC3vnfZxWbFPRW6 > > The serial port on 102 is upside down, so you can't use this on 102, but > on 102 you can use a generic mini gender-changer. > The wimodem232 sticks straight out the back instead of up, but at least > the led and/or screen faces up. > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=db25+mini+gender+changer+male > > -- > bkw > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 3:02 PM Steve Baker wrote: > >> Fantastic, welcome Jim! >> >> I’m pretty new around here too, just got my first T102 late-spring and >> have been having a blast. This community is nothing short of amazing and I >> learn stuff every single day. >> >> I'd greatly appreciate hearing anyone's experiences with serial-to-WiFi >> converters connecting their M100s to networks, and where they've found the >> best prices. Is it simply a matter of using TERM on the M100 set to a >> particular bit-rate, number of bits per character, parity, etc., and then >> connecting to another computer by specifying the IP address of the >> converter via a terminal program on the remote system, such as PuTTY, >> HyperTerm, etc.? >> >> >> Regarding Serial-to-WiFi connections, I have both of these (they both >> should work on the M100): >> >> https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232OLED >> >> https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/store/#!/Gurumodem/p/134166147/category=28313042 >> >> The first is the WiModem232 and the second is the GuruModem. I love them >> both in different ways, but usually use WiModem because of the screen (it’s >> really fun to use). The GuruModem has a microSD card slot but I haven’t >> learned how to receive or send files to/from the onboard storage. When I >> figure that out, I might use it a lot more. >> >> Both of them generally operate the same way, using an expanded Hayes >> command set to get out and about. Yep we use Term, set the stat as >> appropriate, and then issue the atdt domain.com:port command to connect >> (IP addresses work too). Cmds like ati (information), at*b (set baud rate), >> ath (hangup), etc. are pretty well documented. >> >> I've heard that rechargeable batteries can be used in M100s by changing a >> resistor inside a unit, but I can't find any details about the value of the >> new resistor, which one it is on the PCB, etc. Also, is the resistor value >> dependent on which battery chemistry is involved (NiCd, NiMH, LiH, LiPoly, >> LiFePO4, etc.)? >> >> >> Regarding the use of rechargeable batteries, quite honestly I’ve only >> used rechargeable batteries since I got my first T102 (OK thus far). This >> probably won’t help but someone posted technical bulletins for the Model >> 200 on installing a nicad upgrade (I uploaded copies of these to my files >> area in Club100); not sure if that’d work for the M100. >> >> Cheers and have a great weekend, >> SB >> >> -- >> Greetings from Steve Baker >> “Gravity brings me down…” >> >> >> >> On Jan 9, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Jim Manley wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I just joined the flock and I'm an Original Flavor owner of a 32 KB M100 >> when they were going for $399 (worth $964.98 today) in the mid-1980s, and >> now I can add nine more to my collection for that much in >> inflation-adjusted value! I would have waited for that price decrease, but >> then I wouldn't have gotten so much done writing code and docs whenever and >> wherever I wanted, long before the overly-expensive, poser, follow-on >> lap-crushers came along. >> >> I'd greatly appreciate hearing anyone's experiences with serial-to-WiFi >> converters connecting their M100s to networks, and where they've found the >> best prices. Is it simply a matter of using TERM on the M100 set to a >> particular bit-rate, number of bits per character, parity, etc., and then >> connecting to another computer by specifying the IP address of the >> converter via a terminal program on the remote system, such as PuTTY, >> HyperTerm, etc.? >> >> >> >> Thanks and All the Best, >> Jim KJ7JHE >> >> >> >
