Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[Kevin Becker]

LaddieAlpha, DLPilot, and DLPlus are apps that emulate a Tandy Portable Disk 
Drive on a PC (or PalmPilot).  You mentioned wanted a NADS box earlier, they 
are no longer available unless you find a used one, but these apps perform the 
same function allowing you to easily load and save files to/from your M100.



> On Jun 25, 2021, at 3:03 PM, lloydel...@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> Again, very impressive although I’m not sure what those all are.   Suspect as 
> I continue with these machines, I will learn.
>  
> If they are anything like the CloudT emulator, I’m sure they are great.
>  
> Lloyd
>  
> From: M100  On Behalf Of John R. Hogerhuis
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Subject: Re: [M100] Star Merchant
>  
>  
>  
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:52 AM Lloyd Johnson  > wrote:
>> You wrote it?Wow!   Nice job!
>>  
>> It works great.
>> Lloyd
>>>  
> Thanks Lloyd. It was a fun little project.
> 
>  I'm also the author of LaddieAlpha, TBACK, DLPilot and all of DLPlus.
>  
> -- John.

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 12:58 PM Brian K. White 
wrote:

> On 6/25/21 1:02 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
> >
>
> >   I'm also the author of LaddieAlpha, TBACK, DLPilot and all of DLPlus.
>
>
> Stephen Hurd wrote dlplus, then John worked on it, then I did.
>
>
Oops... my mistake I swapped DLPlus and DLPilot somehow.

Yes Hurd wrote DLPlus, but most of it got rewritten. DLPilot was completely
my creation.

-- John.

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[Brian K. White]

On 6/25/21 1:02 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:



On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:52 AM Lloyd Johnson > wrote:


You wrote it?    Wow!   Nice job!

It works great.
Lloyd



Thanks Lloyd. It was a fun little project.

  I'm also the author of LaddieAlpha, TBACK, DLPilot and all of DLPlus.



Stephen Hurd wrote dlplus, then John worked on it, then I did.

--
bkw

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[lloydelmer]

Again, very impressive although I’m not sure what those all are.   Suspect as I 
continue with these machines, I will learn.

 

If they are anything like the CloudT emulator, I’m sure they are great.

 

Lloyd

 

From: M100  On Behalf Of John R. Hogerhuis
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 12:03 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] Star Merchant

 

 

 

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:52 AM Lloyd Johnson mailto:lloydel...@comcast.net> > wrote:

You wrote it?Wow!   Nice job!

 

It works great.

Lloyd

 

Thanks Lloyd. It was a fun little project.

 I'm also the author of LaddieAlpha, TBACK, DLPilot and all of DLPlus.

 

-- John.

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[Peter Vollan]

This, for a book full of pages and pages of basic code that would have to
be typed in by hand?


On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 06:48, Russell Flowers  wrote:

> Wow, I thought that price was just another over-reaching gouger... but the
> few *sold & completed* auctions on ebay shows that at least some people are
> willing to buy these for $50 - $100.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=big+computer+games+david+h+ahl&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1
>
> The "Big Computer Games" book is not among them, but would probably be in
> the same range.
>
> -- Russ
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 8:36 AM  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the compliment and the info  about the emulator.
>>
>>
>>
>> The emulator is great and easy to use.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you used to own that book, I hope you hung on to it. Amazon is
>> selling used copies of it starting at $141.27.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Big-Computer-Games-David-Ahl/dp/0916688402/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=big+computer+games+by+David+Ahl&qid=1624627765&sr=8-2
>>
>>
>>
>> My copy is still stashed somewhere in storage.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lloyd
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* M100  *On Behalf Of *John R.
>> Hogerhuis
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:05 PM
>> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Star Merchant
>>
>>
>>
>> Super cool Lloyd. I think I might have owned that book...
>>
>> For those that want to try Lloyd's game in your browser you can quickly
>> paste it into CloudT
>>
>> What I did to load it:
>>
>> Copy raw text to clipboad from github
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LEJ-Projects/Star-Merchant---NEC-PC-8201A-TRS80-Model-100/main/strmrt.ba.txt
>>
>> Browse
>> https://bitchin100.com/CloudT
>>
>> Paste into the Add Plain Text input area.
>> Click Add Plain Text button to put the file into the virtual tape queue
>> Click on Model T display, go into BASIC.
>> Type CLOAD
>>
>> Type Run
>>
>> -- John.
>>
>

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:52 AM Lloyd Johnson 
wrote:

> You wrote it?Wow!   Nice job!
>
> It works great.
> Lloyd
>
>
> Thanks Lloyd. It was a fun little project.

 I'm also the author of LaddieAlpha, TBACK, DLPilot and all of DLPlus.

-- John.

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[Lloyd Johnson]

You wrote it?Wow!   Nice job!

It works great.
Lloyd

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:36 AM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 10:24 PM Peter Vollan  wrote:
>> Can't I just load it into my Model 100 as a do file and convert it to basic? 
>> I don't follow why you are doing the cassette part.
>> 
> 
> Of course. I was just mentioning how it works with the web-based CloudT 
> emulator I wrote.
> 
> CloudT file I/O is based on the cassette commands and Google Drive.
> 
> -- John. 

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 10:24 PM Peter Vollan  wrote:

> Can't I just load it into my Model 100 as a do file and convert it to
> basic? I don't follow why you are doing the cassette part.
>
>
Of course. I was just mentioning how it works with the web-based CloudT
emulator I wrote.

CloudT file I/O is based on the cassette commands and Google Drive.

-- John.

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[Brian K. White]

On 6/25/21 1:23 AM, Peter Vollan wrote:
Can't I just load it into my Model 100 as a do file and convert it to 
basic? I don't follow why you are doing the cassette part.


Let me quote the part that you missed buried deep in the 16 pages of 
text, easy to miss:


"For those that want to try Lloyd's game in your browser"

--
bkw





On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 15:05, John R. Hogerhuis > wrote:


Super cool Lloyd. I think I might have owned that book...

For those that want to try Lloyd's game in your browser you can
quickly paste it into CloudT

What I did to load it:

Copy raw text to clipboad from github

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LEJ-Projects/Star-Merchant---NEC-PC-8201A-TRS80-Model-100/main/strmrt.ba.txt



Browse
https://bitchin100.com/CloudT 

Paste into the Add Plain Text input area.
Click Add Plain Text button to put the file into the virtual tape
queue
Click on Model T display, go into BASIC.
Type CLOAD
Type Run

-- John.

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[Brian K. White]

ebay completed sales are a good way to gauge, but you have to ignore 
Amazon prices on uncommon books entirely. Amazon listings often have 
algorithmicly generated prices that are insane. By insane I don't mean 
"I would never pay that.", I mean they are examples of some automatic 
process with an overly simple rule going off the deep end.


--
bkw


On 6/25/21 9:47 AM, Russell Flowers wrote:
Wow, I thought that price was just another over-reaching gouger... but 
the few *sold & completed* auctions on ebay shows that at least some 
people are willing to buy these for $50 - $100.


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=big+computer+games+david+h+ahl&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1 



The "Big Computer Games" book is not among them, but would probably be 
in the same range.


-- Russ

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 8:36 AM > wrote:


Thanks for the compliment and the info  about the emulator.

__ __

The emulator is great and easy to use. 

__ __

If you used to own that book, I hope you hung on to it. Amazon
is selling used copies of it starting at $141.27.

__ __


https://www.amazon.com/Big-Computer-Games-David-Ahl/dp/0916688402/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=big+computer+games+by+David+Ahl&qid=1624627765&sr=8-2



__ __

My copy is still stashed somewhere in storage.

__ __

Lloyd

__ __

*From:* M100 mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>> *On Behalf Of *John R.
Hogerhuis
*Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:05 PM
*To:* m...@bitchin100.com 
*Subject:* Re: [M100] Star Merchant

__ __

Super cool Lloyd. I think I might have owned that book...

For those that want to try Lloyd's game in your browser you can
quickly paste it into CloudT

What I did to load it:

Copy raw text to clipboad from github

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LEJ-Projects/Star-Merchant---NEC-PC-8201A-TRS80-Model-100/main/strmrt.ba.txt



Browse
https://bitchin100.com/CloudT 

Paste into the Add Plain Text input area.
Click Add Plain Text button to put the file into the virtual tape queue
Click on Model T display, go into BASIC.
Type CLOAD

Type Run

-- John.




--
bkw

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[Russell Flowers]

Wow, I thought that price was just another over-reaching gouger... but the
few *sold & completed* auctions on ebay shows that at least some people are
willing to buy these for $50 - $100.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=big+computer+games+david+h+ahl&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

The "Big Computer Games" book is not among them, but would probably be in
the same range.

-- Russ

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 8:36 AM  wrote:

> Thanks for the compliment and the info  about the emulator.
>
>
>
> The emulator is great and easy to use.
>
>
>
> If you used to own that book, I hope you hung on to it. Amazon is
> selling used copies of it starting at $141.27.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Big-Computer-Games-David-Ahl/dp/0916688402/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=big+computer+games+by+David+Ahl&qid=1624627765&sr=8-2
>
>
>
> My copy is still stashed somewhere in storage.
>
>
>
> Lloyd
>
>
>
> *From:* M100  *On Behalf Of *John R.
> Hogerhuis
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:05 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Star Merchant
>
>
>
> Super cool Lloyd. I think I might have owned that book...
>
> For those that want to try Lloyd's game in your browser you can quickly
> paste it into CloudT
>
> What I did to load it:
>
> Copy raw text to clipboad from github
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LEJ-Projects/Star-Merchant---NEC-PC-8201A-TRS80-Model-100/main/strmrt.ba.txt
>
> Browse
> https://bitchin100.com/CloudT
>
> Paste into the Add Plain Text input area.
> Click Add Plain Text button to put the file into the virtual tape queue
> Click on Model T display, go into BASIC.
> Type CLOAD
>
> Type Run
>
> -- John.
>

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[lloydelmer]

Thanks for the compliment and the info  about the emulator.

 

The emulator is great and easy to use.   

 

If you used to own that book, I hope you hung on to it. Amazon is selling 
used copies of it starting at $141.27.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Big-Computer-Games-David-Ahl/dp/0916688402/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1
 

 &keywords=big+computer+games+by+David+Ahl&qid=1624627765&sr=8-2

 

My copy is still stashed somewhere in storage.

 

Lloyd

 

From: M100  On Behalf Of John R. Hogerhuis
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:05 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] Star Merchant

 

Super cool Lloyd. I think I might have owned that book...

For those that want to try Lloyd's game in your browser you can quickly paste 
it into CloudT

What I did to load it:

Copy raw text to clipboad from github
 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LEJ-Projects/Star-Merchant---NEC-PC-8201A-TRS80-Model-100/main/strmrt.ba.txt

Browse
https://bitchin100.com/CloudT

Paste into the Add Plain Text input area.
Click Add Plain Text button to put the file into the virtual tape queue
Click on Model T display, go into BASIC.
Type CLOAD

Type Run

-- John.

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[lloydelmer]

Oops!  You are Peter.

 

I meant to say, what John was describing.

 

Its still early for me.  😊

 

Lloyd

 

From: lloydel...@comcast.net  
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:38 AM
To: 'm...@bitchin100.com' 
Subject: RE: [M100] Star Merchant

 

What Peter is describing is a super cool way of running the program on an 
emulator.This is for people that do not have an actual TRS-80 Model 100 or 
NEC PC-8201A.

 

The way I load programs is to drop the baud rate down (600 is good – 300 might 
be better) then patiently transfer it and save as a .DO.

 

Fire up basic, load the .DO file then save it.

 

I’m still thinking about providing .WAV files on the github page so then you 
could load it with CLOAD.   

 

Another way would be to purchase one of those nifty NADSBox from club100.org.   
 Then you can use an SD card.I don’t have one, but I am seriously 
considering it.   I’m assuming they are still available.

 

Lloyd

 

From: M100 mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com> > On Behalf Of Peter Vollan
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 12:24 AM
To: m...@bitchin100.com  
Subject: Re: [M100] Star Merchant

 

Can't I just load it into my Model 100 as a do file and convert it to basic? I 
don't follow why you are doing the cassette part.

 

 

On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 15:05, John R. Hogerhuis mailto:jho...@pobox.com> > wrote:

Super cool Lloyd. I think I might have owned that book...

For those that want to try Lloyd's game in your browser you can quickly paste 
it into CloudT

What I did to load it:

Copy raw text to clipboad from github
 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LEJ-Projects/Star-Merchant---NEC-PC-8201A-TRS80-Model-100/main/strmrt.ba.txt

Browse
https://bitchin100.com/CloudT

Paste into the Add Plain Text input area.
Click Add Plain Text button to put the file into the virtual tape queue
Click on Model T display, go into BASIC.
Type CLOAD

Type Run

-- John.

Re: [M100] Star Merchant

[lloydelmer]

What Peter is describing is a super cool way of running the program on an 
emulator.This is for people that do not have an actual TRS-80 Model 100 or 
NEC PC-8201A.

 

The way I load programs is to drop the baud rate down (600 is good – 300 might 
be better) then patiently transfer it and save as a .DO.

 

Fire up basic, load the .DO file then save it.

 

I’m still thinking about providing .WAV files on the github page so then you 
could load it with CLOAD.   

 

Another way would be to purchase one of those nifty NADSBox from club100.org.   
 Then you can use an SD card.I don’t have one, but I am seriously 
considering it.   I’m assuming they are still available.

 

Lloyd

 

From: M100  On Behalf Of Peter Vollan
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 12:24 AM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] Star Merchant

 

Can't I just load it into my Model 100 as a do file and convert it to basic? I 
don't follow why you are doing the cassette part.

 

 

On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 15:05, John R. Hogerhuis mailto:jho...@pobox.com> > wrote:

Super cool Lloyd. I think I might have owned that book...

For those that want to try Lloyd's game in your browser you can quickly paste 
it into CloudT

What I did to load it:

Copy raw text to clipboad from github
 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LEJ-Projects/Star-Merchant---NEC-PC-8201A-TRS80-Model-100/main/strmrt.ba.txt

Browse
https://bitchin100.com/CloudT

Paste into the Add Plain Text input area.
Click Add Plain Text button to put the file into the virtual tape queue
Click on Model T display, go into BASIC.
Type CLOAD

Type Run

-- John.