Re: [M100] Sardine dictionary files?

2023-03-26 Thread Brian K. White

On 3/25/23 17:15, mark audacity romberg wrote:

How do I get my hands on these? I’ve been Googling for a minute with no luck.

—m.a


The Sardine dictionary doesn't come in the form of files. It's a raw 
data disk where the disk is used as raw space, no filesystem or files.


I have an image of the disk included with pdd.sh, and you can use pdd.sh 
to re-create a real disk (if you have a real drive).


If you don't have a real drive, or you just want to access the data,
the disk image file format is documented in the dlplus docs, and the 
script itself includes bash code to read and write the images, and 
dlplus includes c code to read and write the same format.


https://github.com/bkw777/pdd.sh

https://github.com/bkw777/pdd.sh/blob/main/disk_images/Sardine_American_English.pdd1

https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus

https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus/blob/master/ref/disk_image_files.txt

It's a TPDD1 disk, and so use the TPDD1 image file format to read it.

It's a simple format with no extra header or container or anything, just 
80 records of 1+12+1280 bytes each. I don't remember but I think there 
is nothing in the 12 byte ID fields, so all your data is in the 1280 
byte part, and the single byte in front just says that the 1280 byte 
part is divided into 64/128/256/whatever size chunks.


A filesystem disk has metadata in the first 2 records (1 track), but on 
a data disk all tracks are the same, so all 80 records are application 
data in this case.


I also have a version that came in the form of 4 32k eproms in a rom 
expander for T102. I dumped the roms but I don't know how the contents 
are formatted or used. For instance it might include executable code not 
just dictionary data.

http://tandy.wiki/PG_Designs:SAFE

The executable part of Sardine is in the form of 
SAR100.CO/SAR200.CO/SARNEC.CO (except SARNEC.CO is lost to time)
There are copies bundled with dlplus, and dlplus can serve them up 
on-the-fly when you use Ultimate Rom 2 to load them. There's a brief 
example of the process to invoke Sardine in the main dlplus readme, and 
more in the UR-II manual.


--
bkw



Re: [M100] Sardine dictionary files?

2023-03-25 Thread Kurt McCullum
Thanks John

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, at 4:20 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
> Hey welcome back Kurt :-)
> 
> -- John. 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 2:36 PM Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>> __
>> The sardine dictionary was originally on a 100k disk. Steve Adolph pulled it 
>> of sector by sector for me quite a few years back. The file itself is in the 
>> link below.
>> 
>> http://club100.org/memfiles/index.php?action=downloadfile&filename=american_dictionary_sectors.bin&directory=Kurt%20McCullum/Sardine&;
>> 
>> mComm uses this to support SARDINE
>> 
>> Kurt
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, at 2:15 PM, mark audacity romberg wrote:
>>> How do I get my hands on these? I’ve been Googling for a minute with no 
>>> luck.
>>> 
>>> —m.a
>> 


Re: [M100] Sardine dictionary files?

2023-03-25 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Hey welcome back Kurt :-)

-- John.

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 2:36 PM Kurt McCullum  wrote:

> The sardine dictionary was originally on a 100k disk. Steve Adolph pulled
> it of sector by sector for me quite a few years back. The file itself is in
> the link below.
>
>
> http://club100.org/memfiles/index.php?action=downloadfile&filename=american_dictionary_sectors.bin&directory=Kurt%20McCullum/Sardine
> &
>
> mComm uses this to support SARDINE
>
> Kurt
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, at 2:15 PM, mark audacity romberg wrote:
>
> How do I get my hands on these? I’ve been Googling for a minute with no
> luck.
>
> —m.a
>
>
>


Re: [M100] Sardine dictionary files?

2023-03-25 Thread Kurt McCullum
The sardine dictionary was originally on a 100k disk. Steve Adolph pulled it of 
sector by sector for me quite a few years back. The file itself is in the link 
below.

http://club100.org/memfiles/index.php?action=downloadfile&filename=american_dictionary_sectors.bin&directory=Kurt%20McCullum/Sardine&;

mComm uses this to support SARDINE

Kurt

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, at 2:15 PM, mark audacity romberg wrote:
> How do I get my hands on these? I’ve been Googling for a minute with no luck.
> 
> —m.a


[M100] Sardine dictionary files?

2023-03-25 Thread mark audacity romberg
How do I get my hands on these? I’ve been Googling for a minute with no luck.

—m.a