Re: [M100] counterfeit parts

[Sean Fahey]

I have. Plus Hong Kong, Nanchang, Guangzhou and a few other places. If 
something can be copied, scavenged or stolen and sold at a profit (working or 
not, legal or not), you can assume it's being done. It doesn't take much for 
something to be considered profitable, considering the cost of labor.

>> Have any of you guys been to Shenzhen?

  

Re: [M100] counterfeit parts

[Stephen Adolph]

Never myself.

On Thursday, November 5, 2015, Jeff Gonzales  wrote:
> Have any of you guys been to Shenzhen?
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:
>>
>> True. Particularly, I hadn't considered that it might be a pull.  Guess
there's no shortage of those there, either. cheap labor, lots of discarded
equipment and zero testing might just be profitable.
>>
>> :-(
>>
>> On Nov 4, 2015 8:34 PM, "John Gardner"  wrote:
>>>
>>> ...seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to bother
counterfeiting...
>>>
>>> Nothing is thrown away in China.
>>>
>>> When times are good, a goodly amount of  "counterfeits" are factory
>>>
>>> production rejects. When times are less good and demand slackens.
>>>
>>> value is engineered out at the factory to suit whatever price the market
>>>
>>> commands.
>>>
>>> And then there are the "real" counterfeiters...:)
>
>

Re: [M100] counterfeit parts

[Jeff Gonzales]

Have any of you guys been to Shenzhen?

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:

> True. Particularly, I hadn't considered that it might be a pull.  Guess
> there's no shortage of those there, either. cheap labor, lots of discarded
> equipment and zero testing might just be profitable.
>
> :-(
> On Nov 4, 2015 8:34 PM, "John Gardner"  wrote:
>
>> ...seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to bother
>> counterfeiting...
>>
>> Nothing is thrown away in China.
>>
>> When times are good, a goodly amount of  "counterfeits" are factory
>>
>> production rejects. When times are less good and demand slackens.
>>
>> value is engineered out at the factory to suit whatever price the market
>>
>> commands.
>>
>> And then there are the "real" counterfeiters...:)
>>
>

Re: [M100] counterfeit parts

[Gmail]

I used to live there for 2 years from 2007 - 2009.

Ken

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Jeff Gonzales  wrote:
> 
> Have any of you guys been to Shenzhen?
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:
>> True. Particularly, I hadn't considered that it might be a pull.  Guess 
>> there's no shortage of those there, either. cheap labor, lots of discarded 
>> equipment and zero testing might just be profitable.
>> 
>> :-(
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2015 8:34 PM, "John Gardner"  wrote:
>>> ...seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to bother 
>>> counterfeiting...
>>> 
>>> Nothing is thrown away in China.
>>> 
>>> When times are good, a goodly amount of  "counterfeits" are factory
>>> 
>>> production rejects. When times are less good and demand slackens.
>>> 
>>> value is engineered out at the factory to suit whatever price the market
>>> 
>>> commands.
>>> 
>>> And then there are the "real" counterfeiters...:)
> 

Re: [M100] counterfeit parts

[John Gardner]

...seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to bother counterfeiting...

Nothing is thrown away in China.

When times are good, a goodly amount of  "counterfeits" are factory

production rejects. When times are less good and demand slackens.

value is engineered out at the factory to suit whatever price the market

commands.

And then there are the "real" counterfeiters...:)

Re: [M100] counterfeit parts

[Stephen Adolph]

maybe.. will have to try another part... you are right, why fake that part

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:

> 7402 fake? That seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to
> bother counterfeiting. Maybe it's just a really terrible batch?
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
>> Well I got my first counterfeit parts from China recently. I went to
>> build up the first T102 QUAD, and voila  no workey.  suspect one part,
>> looks funny.  swap it and voila! almost working... hah.
>>
>> So, I have a hardware thing to sort out, tbd on that, but interesting
>> that the 74HC02 was fake.
>>
>> steve
>>
>
>

Re: [M100] counterfeit parts

[Josh Malone]

7402 fake? That seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to bother
counterfeiting. Maybe it's just a really terrible batch?

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Stephen Adolph  wrote:

> Well I got my first counterfeit parts from China recently. I went to build
> up the first T102 QUAD, and voila  no workey.  suspect one part, looks
> funny.  swap it and voila! almost working... hah.
>
> So, I have a hardware thing to sort out, tbd on that, but interesting that
> the 74HC02 was fake.
>
> steve
>