Re: Talking to Siri

2012-03-24 Thread Tracy Thompson
Hello Ian

Dumb question; how does one access the iBook store?

Take care

Tracy


On 23 Mar 2012, at 20:11, Ian McNamara wrote:

Hello, I love siri a lot, it's fantastic and I send emails with it and text 
people. I have not tried everything with it but i'm hoping to play more with 
it. there is a book in the ibook store called talking to siri wich you may find 
useful.

Ian McNamara
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Re: Talking to Siri

2012-03-24 Thread william lomas
go to the store on the phone type
ibooks
as one word
and then it iwll be an application you download. sign in to it with your apple 
ID and go from there, :)
hth
On 24 Mar 2012, at 14:42, Tracy Thompson wrote:

 Hello Ian
 
 Dumb question; how does one access the iBook store?
 
 Take care
 
 Tracy
 
 
 On 23 Mar 2012, at 20:11, Ian McNamara wrote:
 
 Hello, I love siri a lot, it's fantastic and I send emails with it and text 
 people. I have not tried everything with it but i'm hoping to play more with 
 it. there is a book in the ibook store called talking to siri wich you may 
 find useful.
 
 Ian McNamara
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Re: What's Siri?

2012-03-24 Thread william lomas
it is usable for the UK but the services outside the US such as find me a 
restaurant etc. are not in europe. i know i am not ian but hth

On 24 Mar 2012, at 14:29, Tracy Thompson wrote:

 Hello Ian and sorry for the delay
 
 I gather that Siri is not very usable for none US voices. Is that still the 
 case?
 
 Take care
 
 Tracy
 
 
 On 19 Mar 2012, at 13:06, Ian McNamara wrote:
 
 siri is like a personal assistant, you can use it to do things such as send 
 text messages and put reminders in to your calinder plus other things. If you 
 use an iphone and have Ibooks you can buy a book from the app store called 
 talking to siri.
 
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Re: Siri and UK users [was Re: Playing Catch-Up]

2012-03-24 Thread Tracy Thompson
Hello Esther

I tried the link below and the book seems to have gone. Thank you anyway.

Take care

Tracy


On 23 Mar 2012, at 21:22, Esther wrote:

Hello Lynne,

First, very good to hear news of both your and Gordon, and have you back on 
list!  Siri should not have any problems with Gordon's accent, although, just 
as with the Dragon Dictation app, what you'll find is that recognition of his 
voice will improve the more he uses Siri, and his voice is learned.  As Ian 
mentioned, there is a useful book in the iBooks store ($4.99 US price):
• Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by 
Steve Sande and Erica Sadun
http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11

You might also like to read down the archived Mail Archive thread of Mike 
Bussboom's question:
• Siri and Orthography
http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/msg07721.html
Read down the thread with the access key combination Control-n, and read 
previous messages with Control-p in Safari.  Lynne or anyone who is using 
Safari on a machine where this application was brought up when VoiceOver was 
not running -- the access key combinations become Control-Option-n and 
Control-Option-p with VoiceOver off, just as a warning.

The only real problem with Siri's voice recognition is for people with Scottish 
accents.

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All About CSUN 2012: a new tech doctor podcast

2012-03-24 Thread Robert Carter
Hi,

In this just published tech doctor podcast, Robert Carter and Jessica Rathwell 
explore Jessica's experiences at the recently concluded CSUN 2012 conference.

In addition to discussing presentations and products, Robert and Jessi explore 
the personal aspects of attending such events. They look at the importance of 
the disability community reaching out to the mainstream technology developers.

The podcast is available at
http://www.dr-carter.com
Feel free to subscribe via iTunes. The direct feed subscription address is
http://www.dr-carter.com/?feed=podcast

Robert Carter
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Music won't open

2012-03-24 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello everybody

This is really most frustrating. We have music and other material on our iPhone 
but clicking the Music icon on the main screen won't open the Music applet. 
Same is true of our iPad now I come to think about it, both running iOS5.1. 
Anybody else experienced this phenomena and, if so, how did you fix it?

Thanks.

Lynne


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Re: Music won't open

2012-03-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Lynn,
I've  not experienced this particular issue on my iPhone, and am wondering if a 
system reboot might fix things? I have no idea what could cause it in the first 
place I'm afraid.
YOurs,
Zack.
On Mar 24, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net 
wrote:

 Hello everybody
 
 This is really most frustrating. We have music and other material on our 
 iPhone but clicking the Music icon on the main screen won't open the Music 
 applet. Same is true of our iPad now I come to think about it, both running 
 iOS5.1. Anybody else experienced this phenomena and, if so, how did you fix 
 it?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Lynne
 
 
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Changing default camera to front-facing?

2012-03-24 Thread Geoff Waaler
Greetings,

Earlier this week I learned two valuable lessons.  Specifically, my guide dog 
needs to practice providing sufficient clearance for drop-offs.  Consequently, 
being submerged in a pool is not conducive to the optimum functionality of an 
iPhone 4S.  Actually, the latter was 
insightful, but now I have the personal experience to prove it.



I removed my phone from the otterbox defender and sucked water out of the 
headphone, speaker, and microphone openings.  The case protected the power 
button, USB connector, and volume buttons and switch on the left side, so it 
could have been a lot worse.  The phone was mostly working, but I decided to 
turn it off and pack it in rice for 24 hours anyway.



It appeared that my phone survived its little swim unscathed until I attempted 
to use the LookTell money reader app and nothing happened regardless of the 
lighting or bill placed in front of it.  I then tried light detector and 
discovered that no sound was emitted.  I then launched the camera app and it 
crashed when I attempted to take a picture or toggle to the front-facing camera.



I actually had not thought to provide suction on the camera aperture area at 
the time.  I packed it in rice again last night, to no avail.



I can still make face-time calls, hence only one camera is certifiably FUBAR.  
My thought was that if I could change the default camera it might still be 
possible to use apps that depend on that hardware and put off having to use one 
of my two allowed damage replacements under Applecare.  I explored settings, 
and Google, but have not discovered a way to do this other than within the 
camera app itself which does not appear to be an option.



I thought I'd ask here if anyone can offer a suggestion before I suck it up and 
visit the Apple store.



TIA and best regards.

Geoff
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RE: get off now or replacement app

2012-03-24 Thread Paula Hobley
Hi Esther

Wow, thanks for that.  I shall try it after I check that it's available in
Australia. :)

Take care

Paula


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, 24 March 2012 8:27 AM
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: get off now or replacement app

Hello Michael and Paula,

If either of you has Ariadne GPS, you might consider using the recently
updated capabilities of that app to set alarms for bus stops.  There was a
recent post on another list on this subject:
begin quote
I really like Ariadne and use it everyday to make sure I don't miss my bus
stop. The bus rout has a very long straight section with minimal clues along
the way to tell me where on the route I am. Ariadne is perfect in this
situation, i pull it out when I know I am getting close and the app will
have the POI which I set near my bus stop on the front screen of the app.
All I need to do is put VO focus on the distance and Ariadne will count down
the distance to the bus stop for me. It will also play an alarm when I am a
certain distance from the stop.
end quote

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 22, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Paula Hobley wrote:

 Hi Michael
 
 Thanks for talking about this app.  I didn't know it existed, and I think
it
 could come in handy as there are some bus stops that I'm not sure where
they
 are.
 
 Thanks again.
 
 Paula
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver
 Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 12:59 AM
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: get off now or replacement app
 
 at the moment i am currently running get off now on my i-phone 4 
 but i am having a few issues with it.
 one issue is that it seems to want to trigger the alarm for my 
 programmed bus stop while i am at home.  to get round this issue 
 i switched off the destination for my stop and re enabled it when 
 travelling back from town today.
 however the second issue was that today after re enabling the 
 destination and making a call to tell my dad i was on the way 
 home to my house, the alarm didn't trigger on my stop and i again 
 found that it decided to trigger just as i was about almost at my 
 front door so there is certainly something wrong there because 
 the bus stop to my local pub certainly hasn't moved near or into 
 my house.
 has anyone else had these issues with get off now for the i-phone 
 and have they been able to resolve them or found a different app 
 that works better as regards locating stops?
 fortunately today the driver told me i was at my stop which i 
 wouldn't have believed because of the alarm not being triggered.
 for some reason it worked fine on wednesday and also one of my 
 neighbours was on the bus coming back so her ringing the bell and 
 the beep of the alarm for the stop triggered almost about the 
 same time or there was not much in it.

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Re: Changing default camera to front-facing?

2012-03-24 Thread Sarah Alawami
I dunno if there's a way to do this. I would write to the apple comunity forums 
and see what they say and post back here with any findings.

Good luck.
On Mar 24, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 Earlier this week I learned two valuable lessons.  Specifically, my guide dog 
 needs to practice providing sufficient clearance for drop-offs.  
 Consequently, being submerged in a pool is not conducive to the optimum 
 functionality of an iPhone 4S.  Actually, the latter was 
 insightful, but now I have the personal experience to prove it.
 
 
 
 I removed my phone from the otterbox defender and sucked water out of the 
 headphone, speaker, and microphone openings.  The case protected the power 
 button, USB connector, and volume buttons and switch on the left side, so it 
 could have been a lot worse.  The phone was mostly working, but I decided to 
 turn it off and pack it in rice for 24 hours anyway.
 
 
 
 It appeared that my phone survived its little swim unscathed until I 
 attempted to use the LookTell money reader app and nothing happened 
 regardless of the lighting or bill placed in front of it.  I then tried light 
 detector and discovered that no sound was emitted.  I then launched the 
 camera app and it crashed when I attempted to take a picture or toggle to the 
 front-facing camera.
 
 
 
 I actually had not thought to provide suction on the camera aperture area at 
 the time.  I packed it in rice again last night, to no avail.
 
 
 
 I can still make face-time calls, hence only one camera is certifiably FUBAR. 
  My thought was that if I could change the default camera it might still be 
 possible to use apps that depend on that hardware and put off having to use 
 one of my two allowed damage replacements under Applecare.  I explored 
 settings, and Google, but have not discovered a way to do this other than 
 within the camera app itself which does not appear to be an option.
 
 
 
 I thought I'd ask here if anyone can offer a suggestion before I suck it up 
 and visit the Apple store.
 
 
 
 TIA and best regards.
 
 Geoff
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Re: Music won't open

2012-03-24 Thread chris hallsworth
Check if assisted touch is turned on and if so please turn it off. This 
can have major implications with VoiceOver, such as inability to 
activate items on the screen. Go to settings, general, accessibility, 
assisted touch.


On 24/03/2012 16:26, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

Hello everybody

This is really most frustrating. We have music and other material on our iPhone but 
clicking the Music icon on the main screen won't open the Music applet. Same 
is true of our iPad now I come to think about it, both running iOS5.1. Anybody else 
experienced this phenomena and, if so, how did you fix it?

Thanks.

Lynne


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configuring YoruFukurou

2012-03-24 Thread Maria Chapman
HI.  is there any way i can minimize YoruFukurou saying x rows added when 
reading tweets?  it tends to inturrupt the tweet i'm trying to read lol.

tried making the refresh interval greater but i'm not sure if that's the best 
way to go about it.

thanks

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 Newbie mac user.
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Re: configuring YoruFukurou

2012-03-24 Thread Sarah Alawami
No. tha'ts not  yorufukurou probem that's a voice over issue and there's no way 
around it.

Take care all. 
On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:

 HI.  is there any way i can minimize YoruFukurou saying x rows added when 
 reading tweets?  it tends to inturrupt the tweet i'm trying to read lol.
 
 tried making the refresh interval greater but i'm not sure if that's the best 
 way to go about it.
 
 thanks
 
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 Newbie mac user.
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 will get you fb as well as email  iImessage.   
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Re: What's Siri?

2012-03-24 Thread Ian McNamara
Hi, well I find it very good to use, it's a grate help when you need to send a 
quick message, we can't use things like restraunt and business searches yet.

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Re: Talking to Siri

2012-03-24 Thread Ian McNamara
just open the ibooks appliation and touble tap on the store button.

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Re: Advice on my message rule for this list

2012-03-24 Thread Daniel McGee
Hello Tracey, thanks for your feedback but the strange thing is, I have already 
setup my message rule in the following way. Creating giving it a discription. 
Use mac-access@mac-access.net as the To address. Create the mailbox and move 
the message rule to it. I have also told Mail to apply the rule when finishing 
creating it. With all this done though I am still getting every single message 
from this list going into my Bulk mailbox which quite simply shouldn't be 
happening. Its like mail is completely ignoring the rule or doesn't know it 
exists. 
?Any help from anyone would be wonderful because I'm getting fed up with 
messages gong into the bulk folder LOL. 

Thanks 

Daniel 
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 Make sure your first criteria is any recipient or To: Then, use 
 mac-access@mac-access.net as the criteria. In the action field, select Move 
 and then select the mailbox you need to use. We do this here and it works 
 fine.
 
 Take care
 
 Tracy
 
 
 On 22 Mar 2012, at 18:05, Daniel McGee wrote:
 
 Hi all, I have previously asked this but didn't receive a satisfactory answer 
 si I'll try again. 
 Basicly I have created a message rule for this list with a mailbox that in 
 theory should move any message as long as it says mac-access@mac-access.net 
 without the quotes, to my mailbox which is called mac-access. Well to cut a 
 long story short It doesn't matter who sends a message from this list they 
 always without fail end up in my Bulk mailbox. I did applied my rules after 
 creating it so I can't understand why it isn't working because my other Mac 
 related list that I'm on Mac for the blind is working like a charm. All 
 messages go into the correct mailbox. 
 So any advice or instructions or ask me to write out my actual steps of my 
 message rule would be great fully appreciated because I'd like to get this 
 fixed. 
 
 I look forward to some feedback and suggestions.
 
 Thanks 
 
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Re: Advice on my message rule for this list

2012-03-24 Thread Thomas McMahan
I think I answered this before, but when you set up the rule did you tell it to 
apply?  Because if you did you told it to apply to your current open mail 
boxes.  Tell it not to apply initially, say no.  Then close mail and re open it 
and then see if it does what it is doing now, or does what it's supposed to do. 
 It has been a peculiarity of Apple mail for years that if you say yes in the 
dialog in applying the rule when setting it up, or just after setting it up it 
does all sorts of strange stuff.  Have had it happen to me before that all new 
mail regardless was going to the box of the new rule instead of my in-box 
because I said bess.  But chances are if you say no then close mail and restart 
then any mail designated to rule procedure will from that point on go to the 
place where you want it to go, however, sometimes you will get mail from 
individual members that might still show up in your main box.  The rule by 
default is being applied when you start mail but it's not sea
 rching and moving stuff that you already have gotten only what is coming in.  
Think you are fortunate that it's moving the groups messages to bulk mail, and 
not everything into the box that you have the group's mail going to.  

So find the rule and edit, and then say okay and see if the apply dialog comes 
up. If it doesn't then delete the rule and set it up again, and this time say 
no in that final dialog.  Then restart mail wait a while then check the new box 
and see if anything has gone in there, then check the bulk and see if it's 
sending them there still.  If the second is happening, then I think there's a 
problem that I can't figure out an answer to, in other words something buggy.  


On Mar 24, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:

 Hello Tracey, thanks for your feedback but the strange thing is, I have 
 already setup my message rule in the following way. Creating giving it a 
 description. Use mac-access@mac-access.net as the To address. Create the 
 mailbox and move the message rule to it. I have also told Mail to apply the 
 rule when finishing creating it. With all this done though I am still getting 
 every single message from this list going into my Bulk mailbox which quite 
 simply shouldn't be happening. Its like mail is completely ignoring the rule 
 or doesn't know it exists. 
 ?Any help from anyone would be wonderful because I'm getting fed up with 
 messages gong into the bulk folder LOL. 
 
 Thanks 
 
 Daniel 
 On 24 Mar 2012, at 14:39, Tracy Thompson wrote:
 
 Make sure your first criteria is any recipient or To: Then, use 
 mac-access@mac-access.net as the criteria. In the action field, select 
 Move and then select the mailbox you need to use. We do this here and it 
 works fine.
 
 Take care
 
 Tracy
 
 
 On 22 Mar 2012, at 18:05, Daniel McGee wrote:
 
 Hi all, I have previously asked this but didn't receive a satisfactory 
 answer is I'll try again. 
 Basically I have created a message rule for this list with a mailbox that in 
 theory should move any message as long as it says 
 mac-access@mac-access.net without the quotes, to my mailbox which is 
 called mac-access. Well to cut a long story short It doesn't matter who 
 sends a message from this list they always without fail end up in my Bulk 
 mailbox. I did applied my rules after creating it so I can't understand why 
 it isn't working because my other Mac related list that I'm on Mac for the 
 blind is working like a charm. All messages go into the correct mailbox. 
 So any advice or instructions or ask me to write out my actual steps of my 
 message rule would be great fully appreciated because I'd like to get this 
 fixed. 
 
 I look forward to some feedback and suggestions.
 
 Thanks 
 
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Re: Changing default camera to front-facing?

2012-03-24 Thread Bryan Jones
Serious bummer, Geoff. I wonder if one of Apple's i-Device configuration 
utilities would let you tweak this. I haven't put my hands on them, but I know 
Apple has a free utility called Apple Configurator in the Mac App store. I 
think it's designed to allow corporate IT shops to configure and manage fleets 
of IOS devices, and it supposedly provides the ability to touch some settings 
that aren't normally available through the standard IOS interface. Googling 
that tool also returned an iPhone-specific configuration utility from Apple.

I don't know much about either of these tools or if they're VO friendly, but 
thought I'd mention them.

Also, I haven't spent any time exploring the trove of utilities for jailbroken 
devices, but maybe the JB community has something available.

Good luck,
Bryan

On Mar 24, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
 Earlier this week I learned two valuable lessons.  Specifically, my guide dog 
 needs to practice providing sufficient clearance for drop-offs.  
 Consequently, being submerged in a pool is not conducive to the optimum 
 functionality of an iPhone 4S.  Actually, the latter was 

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Re: configuring YoruFukurou

2012-03-24 Thread Maria Chapman
HI sarah.

thanks for the info.

lol.

well, it isn't a big deal, just thought i'd ask. lol.


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On 25/03/2012, at 7:43 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 No. tha'ts not  yorufukurou probem that's a voice over issue and there's no 
 way around it.
 
 Take care all. 
 On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
 
 HI.  is there any way i can minimize YoruFukurou saying x rows added when 
 reading tweets?  it tends to inturrupt the tweet i'm trying to read lol.
 
 tried making the refresh interval greater but i'm not sure if that's the 
 best way to go about it.
 
 thanks
 
 God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 will get you fb as well as email  iImessage.   
 skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Playing Catch-Up

2012-03-24 Thread Maria Chapman
hi.  I'm australian and at first the dictation wasn't that great, but the more 
i use siri the better it seems to be.  I think it will handle the accent just 
fine.


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On 24/03/2012, at 7:10 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

 Hello everybody
 
 I know from the messages I've had from certain concerned group members that 
 our silence has been noticed. Thank you for that; it's really appreciated.
 
 Anyway, to the point. I am currently playing catch-up on over 1200 messages 
 and may see something in a currently extinct thread to which I want to reply. 
 I beg your pardon for any irritation this may cause you.
 
 I'm well aware that there have been lots of changes while we've been away; 
 and some of them involve exciting software titles. I'm looking forward to 
 spending some time this weekend getting to know some new members of this 
 group as well.
 
 Tracy, in her continued generous manner, has upgraded Gordon's phone without 
 telling him; he now has an iPhone 4S and when she gave it to him earlier 
 tonight it put a smile on his face. So we're currently playing getting to 
 know you on that device as well; but Gordon hasn't played with Siri yet, as 
 he wants to read up more about it first.
 
 Anyway, we're most interested in the comments of other iPhone 4S users. How 
 do you find Siri, particularly non-US users? I say that because I'm not sure 
 how, or even if Siri will recognise the voice and the accent of, for 
 instance, a British user.
 
 I have the home page so will go and read more about it shortly. Lots of 
 exciting things are happening in the Apple world it seems and we're looking 
 forward to being a part of it all again.
 
 I won't go into more detail on list; but I'd like to thank you a all for your 
 continued responsible and mature use of our resource whilst we've been away. 
 Believe me, your cooperation is very much appreciated. It is a pleasure and 
 an honour to be able to say that we run this group; a group which contains so 
 many genuinely enthusiastic and mutually cooperative individuals.
 
 Those people who have requested books have had a few replies from Tracy, but 
 she, like me, has been accessing mail remotely and she's still not fully up 
 on all the details. If you have any outstanding issues rewarding TC titles 
 that you have either purchased or would like to purchase via Mac Access, 
 please do not hesitate to contact thee support address while we're home, 
 (between now and Monday), and I will do my very best to fix your issue.
 
 Thank you most sincerely to everybody.
 
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