sharing a calendar.

[Sarah Alawami]

Hello to all. I know how to share a calendar using iCloud and the calendar app 
on mountain lion. My question is this. Why does it take so long for the 
calendar  info to be updated. I waited 2 hours for  the url to be shown but no 
go. Is there an easier way to public calendars on iCloud?

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Re: DeepSleep 2.1 Productivity Software Review | Macworld

[Sarah Alawami]

lol. No sleep as in mac goes to sleep, not you. Hehahahah. I actually didn't 
think of it that way but I'll let you guys know if the mac works fine, or 
rather if the app does. I think I need to get some human sleep.

Sorry all. I'm in a very strange mood today.

But seriouslly will post on this hopef8lly sometime tonight.

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>> I'm going to try this and if i like it it's only $5. This thing works on 
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>> usually when I get home my battery is at 76 percent lol!
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Re: DeepSleep 2.1 Productivity Software Review | Macworld

[Sarah Alawami]

Well since this is for the mac and no it's not on the app sotre. the dev is 
selling it on hos site for 5 bucks. I'll test it tonight when I get home as 
right now I am not.

This is suposed to according to the website work on ml as well.'
Tc all.

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Re: Spell check & auto correct in OS10 question

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Ibelieve it's right how ever is there a way to make i twebsite specific? you 
can also do it from the edit menu as well but that's a bit tedious.

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Re: Using mac as bluetooth keyboard

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Hi Chris,

I use the type2phone app and it works well.  There is a good podcast on it by 
David Woodbridge at visionaustralia  

I don't know about the other app.
 Eric Caron 

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> Which of the two apps, Type2Phone and iKeyboard, can I use to control 
> VoiceOver on my iPhone as well as manipulating text?
> If there are any other apps, please share.
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Re: Caps Lock to VO Keys

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Hi mickey,

Here is the direct link to the podcast at applevis.com


http://www.applevis.com/applevis-podcast/mac-os-x/remap-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience

Eric Caron 

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> Hello Eric: can you please give me some instructions as to how to find that 
> podcast on the webpage that you provided ?I'd appreciate it thank you
> 
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>>   Here is the applevis.com link to the podcast on how to change your caps 
>> lock key to the VO keys Control Option.  This is a permanent link and will 
>> work better then the dropbox link I previously posted.
>> 
>> I hope interested listers were able to follow the podcast and are trying out 
>> the new ability to use the caps lock as the VO modifier key.
>> 
>> I'd love to hear peoples impressions of its use once they have a chance to 
>> try it out for a bit.
>> 
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>> http://www.applevis.com/applevis-podcast/mac-os-x/remap-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
>> On Aug 28, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
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>>> cool. Will try this when I'm not working on my online class. This would be 
>>> very very handy.
>>> On Aug 27, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
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 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/KeyRemap4Macbook.mp3
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RE: Messages under ML

[Paula Hobley]

I haven't duplicated the bug, but I am wondering if it is a bug with
messages.  The only reason I say this is that whenever I send a message to
somebody, in my message log, it says that the message I sent was sent from
my cousin's name.  A bit strange that it would do that, but I'm living with
it because I figure it's not giving that information to the recipient.

Cheers

Paula


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Subject: Messages under ML

Good evening all.
I think I found a bug in Messages under ML. Please can you duplicate?
I have added my Facebook account to the Messages aapp using the Jabba
protocol. Everything works great overall, no problem! However now and again
it will log me out, for no reason at all! Lol! And get this right? I can't
even log back in unless I log out of my system account and log back in
again. Then I have to click the offline selection popup button, choose
available from the menu, and all is well again until the next time.
Is this a bug with Messages under ML, or a problem with Facebook Chat?
The reason I am mentioning this is I know for a few days now Facebook chat
has been a little unstable. In fact, they went down over the weekend. Also,
if it is a bug with Messages, then we should let Apple Accessibility know.
Thanks so much if you can duplicate the above. This will be greatly
appreciated.
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Re: Messages under ML

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Haven't tried it yet, but my facebook crashed in Adium last night a couple of 
times.  So it might be a problem with them.  Didn't know we could integrate 
facebook and messages yet, glad glad to see someone trying.  

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> I think I found a bug in Messages under ML. Please can you duplicate?
> I have added my Facebook account to the Messages aapp using the Jabba 
> protocol. Everything works great overall, no problem! However now and again 
> it will log me out, for no reason at all! Lol! And get this right? I can't 
> even log back in unless I log out of my system account and log back in again. 
> Then I have to click the offline selection popup button, choose available 
> from the menu, and all is well again until the next time.
> Is this a bug with Messages under ML, or a problem with Facebook Chat?
> The reason I am mentioning this is I know for a few days now Facebook chat 
> has been a little unstable. In fact, they went down over the weekend. Also, 
> if it is a bug with Messages, then we should let Apple Accessibility know.
> Thanks so much if you can duplicate the above. This will be greatly 
> appreciated.
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Re: DeepSleep 2.1 Productivity Software Review | Macworld

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Ugg, nevermind. Different kind of sleep.

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> desktops as well and might be useful when I take this machine to school as 
> usually when I get home my battery is at 76 percent lol!
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Re: DeepSleep 2.1 Productivity Software Review | Macworld

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On iOS I use just released 300 by Tesla Software.

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> usually when I get home my battery is at 76 percent lol!
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Re: A Dilemma

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Hi Everyone,



Thanks to all of you who wrote to me both publicly and privately with your 
thoughtful opinions on my phone dilemma!  It looks as though if I want to 
continue to be in easy touch with my family and friends, I will have to go 
ahead and take the leap!  My current phone is being more unreliable than ever!  
I truly appreciate all of your input!  It really helped me to consider some 
important things about how I operate!  Thanks again!

 desi


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From: Chris G 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" ,
Date: Wednesday, Aug 29, 2012 02:12:43 PM
Subject: Re: A Dilemma

>
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> Hi,
> All the tech  shows I listen to are saying September 12 is the announcement 
> date and shipping 9 days later.
> If it were me, I'd wait 3 weeks if you can.
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> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: mac-access@mac-access.net
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:56:55 -0700
> Subject: A Dilemma
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> > I find myself with something of a dilemma before me and I thought I'd 
> pose it here because though I understand the decision is ultimately mine, 
> I'd love to know your opinions.  If this is too far off topic for this 
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> write to me privately.  I find myself in desperate need of a new cell 
> phone!  My dilemma is this.  I know the new iPhone is coming out soon.  
> Should I wait for it, or should I go ahead and buy an iPhone 4s knowing 
> that I will be buying into another 2-year contract?  Has anyone heard of 
> any compelling reasons to wait, given that my current phone, a Haven, is 
> dropping calls and no longer holding a charge?  My Apple friends are 
> encouraging me to wait, and because the timing is so close, that approach 
> makes perfect sense to me.  On the other hand, my current phone is going 
> down more and more each day and I don't have a land line.  Have those of 
> you who have the 4s been happy with it?  Any help with
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DeepSleep 2.1 Productivity Software Review | Macworld

[Sarah Alawami]

I'm going to try this and if i like it it's only $5. This thing works on 
desktops as well and might be useful when I take this machine to school as 
usually when I get home my battery is at 76 percent lol!

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Re: Caps Lock to VO Keys

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Eric: can you please give me some instructions as to how to find that 
podcast on the webpage that you provided ?I'd appreciate it thank you

Sent from my iPhone

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>Here is the applevis.com link to the podcast on how to change your caps 
> lock key to the VO keys Control Option.  This is a permanent link and will 
> work better then the dropbox link I previously posted.
> 
> I hope interested listers were able to follow the podcast and are trying out 
> the new ability to use the caps lock as the VO modifier key.
> 
> I'd love to hear peoples impressions of its use once they have a chance to 
> try it out for a bit.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> http://www.applevis.com/applevis-podcast/mac-os-x/remap-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
> On Aug 28, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
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>> cool. Will try this when I'm not working on my online class. This would be 
>> very very handy.
>> On Aug 27, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
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>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/KeyRemap4Macbook.mp3
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Enable Accessibility Options Anywhere In Mountain Lion [OS X Tips] | Cult of Mac

[Sarah Alawami]

Now,this is a cool tip. It does not have everything but wow. I did not know 
this was there. and the reader is available so use it. *grins*


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Re: option clicking a button with VO

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*smile* I'll get another duplicate bug notification so Nick, cheers.

Dónal
On 30 Aug 2012, at 16:42, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just a clarification here.
> 
> In iTunes, you can't option-click the "Restore" button when VoiceOVer is on. 
> It doesn't give you the desired dialog if you option-click the button with 
> VoiceOVer on. I'm not quite sure why as I haven't delved deeper into this 
> issue, but Apple does know of it.
> 
> Regards,
> Nicolai
> On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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>> Hello Phil,
>> 
>> I've never had to turn off VO to use the trackpad to click.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 30 Aug 2012, at 17:02, Phil Halton wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Ann, I assume this also holds true for Control clicking. Is it 
>>> necessary to turn VO off before clicking, or is it sufficient to simply 
>>> turn off Trackpad commander? Sarah's message seemed to indicate it was 
>>> necessary to turn off VO (Command F5).
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Re: option clicking a button with VO

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Hi,

Just a clarification here.

In iTunes, you can't option-click the "Restore" button when VoiceOVer is on. It 
doesn't give you the desired dialog if you option-click the button with 
VoiceOVer on. I'm not quite sure why as I haven't delved deeper into this 
issue, but Apple does know of it.

Regards,
Nicolai
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> Hello Phil,
> 
> I've never had to turn off VO to use the trackpad to click.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 30 Aug 2012, at 17:02, Phil Halton wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Ann, I assume this also holds true for Control clicking. Is it 
>> necessary to turn VO off before clicking, or is it sufficient to simply turn 
>> off Trackpad commander? Sarah's message seemed to indicate it was necessary 
>> to turn off VO (Command F5).
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Re: option clicking a button with VO

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Hello Phil,

I've never had to turn off VO to use the trackpad to click.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Thanks Ann, I assume this also holds true for Control clicking. Is it 
> necessary to turn VO off before clicking, or is it sufficient to simply turn 
> off Trackpad commander? Sarah's message seemed to indicate it was necessary 
> to turn off VO (Command F5).

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Re: option clicking a button with VO

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I only turn off vo in the iTunes thing when option clicking the restore button 
as that's about the only way i could get it to work. I can option click other 
places though. In some dialogues you nut turn off vo in order for the option 
click, or the control click to be registered. Have a play with some stuff and 
you will quickly learn which ones. lol!

Be blessed.
On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:02 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> Thanks Ann, I assume this also holds true for Control clicking. Is it 
> necessary to turn VO off before clicking, or is it sufficient to simply turn 
> off Trackpad commander? Sarah's message seemed to indicate it was necessary 
> to turn off VO (Command F5).
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: option clicking a button with VO
> 
> 
>> Hello Phil,
>> 
>> Using VoiceOver, a simulated mouse click is VO-Shift-Space bar. You can do 
>> an actual mouse click by pressing down on the trackpad. You have to have 
>> Trackpad Commander turned off to be able to click with the trackpad.
>> 
>> In VoiceOver Utility, under Verbosity, I always check the "Speak text under 
>> mouse after delay" check box. This lets me know should I accidentally move 
>> the mouse when touching the trackpad.
>> 
>> So, an Option-Click can be done by routing the mouse to where the 
>> Option-Click should be done, then holding down the Option key and pressing 
>> the trackpad.
>> 
>> I regularly get a contextual menu by holding down the Control key and 
>> clicking with the trackpad as I find it more reliable than VO-Shift-m.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 30 Aug 2012, at 14:26, Phil Halton wrote:
>> 
>>> I am quite new to the Mac and would like to ask, exactly how is the "click" 
>>> performed? I mean, you say route the mouse to VO, turn off VO and then do 
>>> an option click, but you don't say how to perform the click. Are you using 
>>> an actual mouse, a trackpad? I don't have a mouse, just a trackpad, so how 
>>> exactly would I do the "click"?
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for being exact in your answer.
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Re: option clicking a button with VO

[Phil Halton]

Thanks Ann, I assume this also holds true for Control clicking. Is it 
necessary to turn VO off before clicking, or is it sufficient to simply turn 
off Trackpad commander? Sarah's message seemed to indicate it was necessary 
to turn off VO (Command F5).



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To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: option clicking a button with VO



Hello Phil,

Using VoiceOver, a simulated mouse click is VO-Shift-Space bar. You can do 
an actual mouse click by pressing down on the trackpad. You have to have 
Trackpad Commander turned off to be able to click with the trackpad.


In VoiceOver Utility, under Verbosity, I always check the "Speak text 
under mouse after delay" check box. This lets me know should I 
accidentally move the mouse when touching the trackpad.


So, an Option-Click can be done by routing the mouse to where the 
Option-Click should be done, then holding down the Option key and pressing 
the trackpad.


I regularly get a contextual menu by holding down the Control key and 
clicking with the trackpad as I find it more reliable than VO-Shift-m.


Cheers,

Anne


On 30 Aug 2012, at 14:26, Phil Halton wrote:

I am quite new to the Mac and would like to ask, exactly how is the 
"click" performed? I mean, you say route the mouse to VO, turn off VO and 
then do an option click, but you don't say how to perform the click. Are 
you using an actual mouse, a trackpad? I don't have a mouse, just a 
trackpad, so how exactly would I do the "click"?


Thank you in advance for being exact in your answer.


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Re: A Dilemma

[Sarah Alawami]

yep same here. I'm out of contract now so I'll unlock my phone which is an 
iPhone 4 and sell this puppy  or try to anyways before I get my new phone when 
it comes out in the next few months. . It will be worth it. lol!

Tc all and be blessed.



On Aug 30, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Glenn  wrote:

> Just as I have been doing with my iPhone 4, for the past two years.
> Glenn
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marcy Weinberg" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:15 AM
> Subject: Re: A Dilemma
> 
> 
> I would imagine that many of us are in the same situation.  I'm with AT&T, 
> and purchased my iPhone 4S the day it came out last October.  It's less than 
> a year old, and of course I had to sign another 2-year contract at the time. 
> So, if the new iPhone does come out in the next several months, I won't yet 
> be due for an upgrade.
> 
> That being said, I am very happy with my 4S.  The new phone would have to 
> have something phenomenal that I wouldn't want to be without in order for me 
> to get it before my 2 years are up, as my current phone is in warranty until 
> then.
> 
> So, though I do like to have the latest, in the case of the iPhone I'm 
> content to wait.
> 
> Marcy
> 
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 5:19 PM, josh gregory  wrote:
> 
> I'm the same, Robert. Crap, if only I wasn't stuck in a 2-year
> contract and upgrade was sooner, lol.
> 
> On 8/29/12, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you are happy with the capabilities of the 4s today, it will likely
>> retain those capabilities for the next two years. If, however, you think
>> that you would really like to be able to take advantage of whatever
>> capabilities the new phone might have that the 4s doesn't have, you should
>> wait.
>> 
>> My wife, for example, could care less about the new phone. She just wants 
>> a
>> 4s so that she can have siri. I, on the other hand, am an early adopter 
>> and
>> get really excited about being able to play with the latest and greatest.
>> You just have to figure out what kind of personality you have and make 
>> your
>> choice based on what is most important to you.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Desi Noller  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I find myself with something of a dilemma before me and I thought I'd 
>>> pose
>>> it here because though I understand the decision is ultimately mine, I'd
>>> love to know your opinions.  If this is too far off topic for this list, 
>>> I
>>> apoloogize in advance and would ask anyone wishing to reply, to write to
>>> me privately.  I find myself in desperate need of a new cell phone!  My
>>> dilemma is this.  I know the new iPhone is coming out soon.  Should I 
>>> wait
>>> for it, or should I go ahead and buy an iPhone 4s knowing that I will be
>>> buying into another 2-year contract?  Has anyone heard of any compelling
>>> reasons to wait, given that my current phone, a Haven, is dropping calls
>>> and no longer holding a charge?  My Apple friends are encouraging me to
>>> wait, and because the timing is so close, that approach makes perfect
>>> sense to me.  On the other hand, my current phone is going down more and
>>> more each day and I don't have a land line.  Have those of you who have
>>> the 4s been happy with it?  Any help wi
>> th
>>> this would be most appreciated!  If you don't want to answer on list,
>>> please e-mail me at:
>>> desiandca...@q.com
>>> 
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Re: option clicking a button with VO

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Phil,

Using VoiceOver, a simulated mouse click is VO-Shift-Space bar. You can do an 
actual mouse click by pressing down on the trackpad. You have to have Trackpad 
Commander turned off to be able to click with the trackpad.

In VoiceOver Utility, under Verbosity, I always check the "Speak text under 
mouse after delay" check box. This lets me know should I accidentally move the 
mouse when touching the trackpad.

So, an Option-Click can be done by routing the mouse to where the Option-Click 
should be done, then holding down the Option key and pressing the trackpad.

I regularly get a contextual menu by holding down the Control key and clicking 
with the trackpad as I find it more reliable than VO-Shift-m.

Cheers,

Anne


On 30 Aug 2012, at 14:26, Phil Halton wrote:

> I am quite new to the Mac and would like to ask, exactly how is the "click" 
> performed? I mean, you say route the mouse to VO, turn off VO and then do an 
> option click, but you don't say how to perform the click. Are you using an 
> actual mouse, a trackpad? I don't have a mouse, just a trackpad, so how 
> exactly would I do the "click"?
> 
> Thank you in advance for being exact in your answer.

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Re: A Dilemma

[Glenn]

Just as I have been doing with my iPhone 4, for the past two years.
Glenn

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:15 AM
Subject: Re: A Dilemma


I would imagine that many of us are in the same situation.  I'm with AT&T, 
and purchased my iPhone 4S the day it came out last October.  It's less than 
a year old, and of course I had to sign another 2-year contract at the time. 
So, if the new iPhone does come out in the next several months, I won't yet 
be due for an upgrade.

That being said, I am very happy with my 4S.  The new phone would have to 
have something phenomenal that I wouldn't want to be without in order for me 
to get it before my 2 years are up, as my current phone is in warranty until 
then.

So, though I do like to have the latest, in the case of the iPhone I'm 
content to wait.

Marcy

On Aug 29, 2012, at 5:19 PM, josh gregory  wrote:

I'm the same, Robert. Crap, if only I wasn't stuck in a 2-year
contract and upgrade was sooner, lol.

On 8/29/12, Robert Carter  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If you are happy with the capabilities of the 4s today, it will likely
> retain those capabilities for the next two years. If, however, you think
> that you would really like to be able to take advantage of whatever
> capabilities the new phone might have that the 4s doesn't have, you should
> wait.
>
> My wife, for example, could care less about the new phone. She just wants 
> a
> 4s so that she can have siri. I, on the other hand, am an early adopter 
> and
> get really excited about being able to play with the latest and greatest.
> You just have to figure out what kind of personality you have and make 
> your
> choice based on what is most important to you.
>
> Robert Carter
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Desi Noller  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I find myself with something of a dilemma before me and I thought I'd 
>> pose
>> it here because though I understand the decision is ultimately mine, I'd
>> love to know your opinions.  If this is too far off topic for this list, 
>> I
>> apoloogize in advance and would ask anyone wishing to reply, to write to
>> me privately.  I find myself in desperate need of a new cell phone!  My
>> dilemma is this.  I know the new iPhone is coming out soon.  Should I 
>> wait
>> for it, or should I go ahead and buy an iPhone 4s knowing that I will be
>> buying into another 2-year contract?  Has anyone heard of any compelling
>> reasons to wait, given that my current phone, a Haven, is dropping calls
>> and no longer holding a charge?  My Apple friends are encouraging me to
>> wait, and because the timing is so close, that approach makes perfect
>> sense to me.  On the other hand, my current phone is going down more and
>> more each day and I don't have a land line.  Have those of you who have
>> the 4s been happy with it?  Any help wi
> th
>> this would be most appreciated!  If you don't want to answer on list,
>> please e-mail me at:
>> desiandca...@q.com
>>
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Re: option clicking a button with VO

[Phil Halton]

I am quite new to the Mac and would like to ask, exactly how is the "click" 
performed? I mean, you say route the mouse to VO, turn off VO and then do an 
option click, but you don't say how to perform the click. Are you using an 
actual mouse, a trackpad? I don't have a mouse, just a trackpad, so how 
exactly would I do the "click"?


Thank you in advance for being exact in your answer.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: option clicking a button with VO


Thanks Sarah that was the method I knew, but like William in a subsequent 
post I've found it not entirely reliable.  I'll file a bug report /feature 
request with Apple about it.


Dónal
On 30 Aug 2012, at 04:11, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

Hello. you need to after you route to the button using vo cmd f5. then 
turn off vo and then option click the button and start vo. You should now 
be presented with said dialogue.


Hope that helps.
On Aug 29, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
wrote:



Hi all,

I need to perform an "option click" on the "restore iPhone" button in 
iTunes.  Unless my memory is gone, this brings up a dialog which allows 
me to open an update file for IOS.  Anyways, how does one achieve this 
with voiceover?  Can't for the life of me remember.


Dónal
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Re: VoiceOver friendly RSS reader

[Daniela Rubio]

News rack for mac is very good.

El 29/08/2012, a las 17:38, Paul Hopewell  escribió:

> Hello Listers, 
> Now that Apple mail in Mountain Lion no longer supports RSS feeds I am having 
> trouble reading Apple Hot News items. I have been trying the Shrook RSS 
> reader and am confused! I managed to subscribe to Apple Hot News and can see 
> a list of about 20 news items in a table. I can press Enter on an item which 
> opens Safari for the web page for that item. However when i have read that 
> item there does not seem to be any accessible way to remove it from the list 
> of items. 
> 
> Maybe Shrook is the wrong RSS reader. Is there a better alternative? It was 
> so easy when Apple Mail supported RSS feeds. 
> I would appreciate any tips. 
> Best regards
> 
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Re: option clicking a button with VO

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Thanks Sarah that was the method I knew, but like William in a subsequent post 
I've found it not entirely reliable.  I'll file a bug report /feature request 
with Apple about it.

Dónal
On 30 Aug 2012, at 04:11, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> Hello. you need to after you route to the button using vo cmd f5. then turn 
> off vo and then option click the button and start vo. You should now be 
> presented with said dialogue.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I need to perform an "option click" on the "restore iPhone" button in 
>> iTunes.  Unless my memory is gone, this brings up a dialog which allows me 
>> to open an update file for IOS.  Anyways, how does one achieve this with 
>> voiceover?  Can't for the life of me remember.
>> 
>> Dónal
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Re: VoiceOver friendly RSS reader

[Chris Moore]

Paul,

I use Newsrack on the Mac and RSS Runner on the iPhone, not tried any others 
yet.

Chris 
On 30 Aug 2012, at 10:10, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

> Hi Sarah, 
> Many thanks for the pointer to Vienna. It works fine for me! 
> 
> Paul Hopewell
> On 29 Aug 2012, at 17:12, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> 
>>> Try Vienna. I use it and love it.  You can export all of your feeds to a 
>>> file and import them back let's say if you have to reinstall it. YOu can 
>>> read the article in an internal browser but I much prefer safari I'll be 
>>> doing a podcast on it when school settles down as it is a very very good 
>>> app in my opinion.
>> 
>> 
>> It can even take your rss feeds and synch them to your google account. Note 
>> I have never down this.
>> 
>> link:
>> 
>> http://www.vienna-rss.org
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Listers, 
>>> Now that Apple mail in Mountain Lion no longer supports RSS feeds I am 
>>> having trouble reading Apple Hot News items. I have been trying the Shrook 
>>> RSS reader and am confused! I managed to subscribe to Apple Hot News and 
>>> can see a list of about 20 news items in a table. I can press Enter on an 
>>> item which opens Safari for the web page for that item. However when i have 
>>> read that item there does not seem to be any accessible way to remove it 
>>> from the list of items. 
>>> 
>>> Maybe Shrook is the wrong RSS reader. Is there a better alternative? It was 
>>> so easy when Apple Mail supported RSS feeds. 
>>> I would appreciate any tips. 
>>> Best regards
>>> 
>>> Paul Hopewell
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Re: VoiceOver friendly RSS reader

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Hi Sarah, 
Many thanks for the pointer to Vienna. It works fine for me! 

Paul Hopewell
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>> Try Vienna. I use it and love it.  You can export all of your feeds to a 
>> file and import them back let's say if you have to reinstall it. YOu can 
>> read the article in an internal browser but I much prefer safari I'll be 
>> doing a podcast on it when school settles down as it is a very very good app 
>> in my opinion.
> 
> 
> It can even take your rss feeds and synch them to your google account. Note I 
> have never down this.
> 
> link:
> 
> http://www.vienna-rss.org
> 
> Hope this helps.
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Listers, 
>> Now that Apple mail in Mountain Lion no longer supports RSS feeds I am 
>> having trouble reading Apple Hot News items. I have been trying the Shrook 
>> RSS reader and am confused! I managed to subscribe to Apple Hot News and can 
>> see a list of about 20 news items in a table. I can press Enter on an item 
>> which opens Safari for the web page for that item. However when i have read 
>> that item there does not seem to be any accessible way to remove it from the 
>> list of items. 
>> 
>> Maybe Shrook is the wrong RSS reader. Is there a better alternative? It was 
>> so easy when Apple Mail supported RSS feeds. 
>> I would appreciate any tips. 
>> Best regards
>> 
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Re: A Dilemma

[Marcy Weinberg]

I would imagine that many of us are in the same situation.  I'm with AT&T, and 
purchased my iPhone 4S the day it came out last October.  It's less than a year 
old, and of course I had to sign another 2-year contract at the time.  So, if 
the new iPhone does come out in the next several months, I won't yet be due for 
an upgrade.

That being said, I am very happy with my 4S.  The new phone would have to have 
something phenomenal that I wouldn't want to be without in order for me to get 
it before my 2 years are up, as my current phone is in warranty until then.

So, though I do like to have the latest, in the case of the iPhone I'm content 
to wait.

Marcy

On Aug 29, 2012, at 5:19 PM, josh gregory  wrote:

I'm the same, Robert. Crap, if only I wasn't stuck in a 2-year
contract and upgrade was sooner, lol.

On 8/29/12, Robert Carter  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> If you are happy with the capabilities of the 4s today, it will likely
> retain those capabilities for the next two years. If, however, you think
> that you would really like to be able to take advantage of whatever
> capabilities the new phone might have that the 4s doesn't have, you should
> wait.
> 
> My wife, for example, could care less about the new phone. She just wants a
> 4s so that she can have siri. I, on the other hand, am an early adopter and
> get really excited about being able to play with the latest and greatest.
> You just have to figure out what kind of personality you have and make your
> choice based on what is most important to you.
> 
> Robert Carter
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>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I find myself with something of a dilemma before me and I thought I'd pose
>> it here because though I understand the decision is ultimately mine, I'd
>> love to know your opinions.  If this is too far off topic for this list, I
>> apoloogize in advance and would ask anyone wishing to reply, to write to
>> me privately.  I find myself in desperate need of a new cell phone!  My
>> dilemma is this.  I know the new iPhone is coming out soon.  Should I wait
>> for it, or should I go ahead and buy an iPhone 4s knowing that I will be
>> buying into another 2-year contract?  Has anyone heard of any compelling
>> reasons to wait, given that my current phone, a Haven, is dropping calls
>> and no longer holding a charge?  My Apple friends are encouraging me to
>> wait, and because the timing is so close, that approach makes perfect
>> sense to me.  On the other hand, my current phone is going down more and
>> more each day and I don't have a land line.  Have those of you who have
>> the 4s been happy with it?  Any help wi
> th
>> this would be most appreciated!  If you don't want to answer on list,
>> please e-mail me at:
>> desiandca...@q.com
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