Re: question about cyberduc

[Sarah k Alawami]

I just tired with th efinder and it failed with connections being dropped so it 
looks like at least on my horrible system that the finder will not work for ftp 
stuff. lol! Or not as well as I thought it used to.

Tc and be blessed.
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> It would sure be nice to have a thing like this… I've used all the money I 
> have an iTunes. LOL. Can the finder do such a thing?
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>> hello. I'm looking on behalf of a friend for a free ftp client they can use. 
>> is cyberduc now accessible? I heard it was not but thenI heard it was. if it 
>> is not what can they use that's free and can do basic ftp stuff like moving 
>> and stuff through a gui.
>> 
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Re: tffp presents: an update to the clean my mac demo

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No, but I will provide a link  to the  post where the file is. just click the 
download link after you find it with vo cmd l and vo cmd shift l.

http://www.tffppodcast.com/an-update-to-clean-my-mac/

Take care.
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> Hi there, this is a link to the homepage. Could you possibly provide a direct 
> link to the audio file? Thank you.
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>> Hello to all. I posted an update to the clean my mac podcast. Look in 
>> february for the original post. This update needs some work in terms of 
>> accessibility but it is usable, just not comfortably. Here is the  link to 
>> the podcast.
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>> http://www.tffppodcast.com/ an-update-to-clean-my-mac / ‎ 
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Re: tffp presents: an update to the clean my mac demo

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Hi there, this is a link to the homepage. Could you possibly provide a direct 
link to the audio file? Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hello to all. I posted an update to the clean my mac podcast. Look in 
> february for the original post. This update needs some work in terms of 
> accessibility but it is usable, just not comfortably. Here is the  link to 
> the podcast.
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> http://www.tffppodcast.com/ an-update-to-clean-my-mac / ‎ 
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tffp presents: an update to the clean my mac demo

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hello to all. I posted an update to the clean my mac podcast. Look in february 
for the original post. This update needs some work in terms of accessibility 
but it is usable, just not comfortably. Here is the  link to the podcast.

http://www.tffppodcast.com/ an-update-to-clean-my-mac / ‎ 

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Re: question about cyberduc

[Sarah k Alawami]

some people say it can and some say it cannot. iv'e tried it with no success. 
What is that ftp client people use that' free and accessible? I can't remember 
off hand at the moment.

Tc all and be blessed.
On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> It would sure be nice to have a thing like this… I've used all the money I 
> have an iTunes. LOL. Can the finder do such a thing?
> 
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> On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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>> hello. I'm looking on behalf of a friend for a free ftp client they can use. 
>> is cyberduc now accessible? I heard it was not but thenI heard it was. if it 
>> is not what can they use that's free and can do basic ftp stuff like moving 
>> and stuff through a gui.
>> 
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Re: question about cyberduc

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It would sure be nice to have a thing like this… I've used all the money I have 
an iTunes. LOL. Can the finder do such a thing?

Sent from my iPhone

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> hello. I'm looking on behalf of a friend for a free ftp client they can use. 
> is cyberduc now accessible? I heard it was not but thenI heard it was. if it 
> is not what can they use that's free and can do basic ftp stuff like moving 
> and stuff through a gui.
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question about cyberduc

[Sarah k Alawami]

hello. I'm looking on behalf of a friend for a free ftp client they can use. is 
cyberduc now accessible? I heard it was not but thenI heard it was. if it is 
not what can they use that's free and can do basic ftp stuff like moving and 
stuff through a gui.

thanks all and be blessed.
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Re: do not update to clean my mac v2

[Sarah k Alawami]

it can how ever clean my mac does  a lot more and very accessibly. CCleaner had 
unlabeled check boxes and you could not tell what was checked and what was not. 

Here is a direct link to the mp3 of the demo I did on clean my mac. it even 
cleaned your external drives except for tm as well.

http://media.blubrry.com/tffp/p/www.tffppodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/looking-at-clean-my-mac.mp3


I'm letting the list know as I know Gordon and Lynn bought clean my mac about a 
month ago.

Take care.
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> Cant c Cleaner be used to accomplish a goal of the same end?
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> On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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>> Yeah I just made that mistake. Unlabeled buttons, unlabeled radio buttons 
>> and no help tags to guide my way. I just contacted the dev about this. I'm 
>> not too happy as I just bought a license for it. Anyways those that own v1 
>> keep using it. I still own it as well but my license expired just a few days 
>> ago lol! Please contact the dev if you can asking them to take a look at 
>> accessibility for clean my mac v2. i just did as I love this product and I 
>> did a podcast praising its accessibility.
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Re: do not update to clean my mac v2

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Cant c Cleaner be used to accomplish a goal of the same end?

Sent from my iPhone

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> Yeah I just made that mistake. Unlabeled buttons, unlabeled radio buttons and 
> no help tags to guide my way. I just contacted the dev about this. I'm not 
> too happy as I just bought a license for it. Anyways those that own v1 keep 
> using it. I still own it as well but my license expired just a few days ago 
> lol! Please contact the dev if you can asking them to take a look at 
> accessibility for clean my mac v2. i just did as I love this product and I 
> did a podcast praising its accessibility.
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> Just thought I'd let you all know.
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do not update to clean my mac v2

[Sarah k Alawami]

Yeah I just made that mistake. Unlabeled buttons, unlabeled radio buttons and 
no help tags to guide my way. I just contacted the dev about this. I'm not too 
happy as I just bought a license for it. Anyways those that own v1 keep using 
it. I still own it as well but my license expired just a few days ago lol! 
Please contact the dev if you can asking them to take a look at accessibility 
for clean my mac v2. i just did as I love this product and I did a podcast 
praising its accessibility.

Just thought I'd let you all know.

Tc all.
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Re: seeing eye gps

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That we don't know. they did not give us a release day. I hope they change the 
cost for those of us that want it though. I personally use navigon and waze as 
my area is not save to walk in lol!

Tc all.
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> When does it come out?
> Steph
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> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sarah k Alawami  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility  Date sent: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:31:09 -0800
> Subject: Re: seeing eye gps
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> We don't' yet know but we do know it will be as far as the devs have said $99 
> unless you want to buy  other maps then  I don't now how much it will be in 
> edition to the $99 but you only pay that once which I guess is good but 
> still.  I actually expected to have it cost about as much as the other gps 
> apps out there which run from $30 to $50.  Just my thoughts.
> 
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> On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:12 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
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>   hi do people know please when the seeing eye app should be available?
> I know it is in testing and all slots have been taken so am not looking for 
> any info not relating to what i already know.
> how though do we make suggestions?
> for example one feature i'd like is to be on public transport like a bus, but 
> not have a specific route planned and have it announce roads and streets as i 
> turn on to them or am passing them nearby as does the trekker from human ware 
> at the moment
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Re: seeing eye gps

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When does it come out?
Steph


- Original Message -
From: Sarah k Alawami We don't' yet know but we do know it will be as far as the devs 
have said $99 unless you want to buy  other maps then  I don't 
now how much it will be in edition to the $99 but you only pay 
that once which I guess is good but still.  I actually expected 
to have it cost about as much as the other gps apps out there 
which run from $30 to $50.  Just my thoughts.


Take care.
On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:12 AM, William Lomas 
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	hi do people know please when the seeing eye app should be 
available?
I know it is in testing and all slots have been taken so am not 
looking for any info not relating to what i already know.

how though do we make suggestions?
for example one feature i'd like is to be on public transport 
like a bus, but not have a specific route planned and have it 
announce roads and streets as i turn on to them or am passing 
them nearby as does the trekker from human ware at the moment

regards wil

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Download problem solved

[Josh Gregory]

Hi, not exactly what I was looking for, but it Sauls the download issue for 
now. If I set quicknav to links and go to the links With the arrow keys, I can 
press option enter to download the files.

Sent from my iPhone
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Understanding iOS passcode security

[Sarah k Alawami]

This is a very very in-depth look at how pass codes work. and it even shows how 
many  hours to days to years it could take to brake a 4 to 6 to 9 digit code. 
Enjoy the read. it was very interesting to me.

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/understanding-ios-passcode-security 

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Re: automator

[Sarah k Alawami]

Here you go. I howl you know C or apple script as you will need one or both of 
these.

http://www.macnn.com/articles/05/11/07/automator.action/

Hope that helps someone out there in internet land.

Take care.
On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Well if the thing wouldn't log me out, I could just download by clicking the 
> links. But that's not the case. How does one create an action? Hell I might 
> just do it myself.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> lol. You're lucky. Some profs at my college don't' allow downloading of 
>> their power points. lol! but yeah let's hope this can be automated some how.
>> Tc all and be blessed.
>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>>> Good, because, and pardon my language, it's a pain in the ass to have to 
>>> download one file be logged out of my college account, have to go back in, 
>>> and re-download one file at a time.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I'm working on it.  Ideally I'd like to be able to write a Safari 
 extension which checked the download source and put it into a folder based 
 on that.  Having 0 luck though.
 On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:40, Josh Gregory  wrote:
 
> Can you make a script to download files? Like PowerPoint
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I had a nice automator script which took any downloaded zip file and 
>> placed it in its own folder.  Only works for one filetype at a time 
>> though I couldn't introduce something like "if it's a zip put it here, 
>> if it's an audiobook put it there" etc.
>> 
>> Dónal
>> On 8 Mar 2013, at 16:31, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Look in the list archives. This week, I have a link to an article that 
>>> explains the way you can use Automator. I use this tool all the time 
>>> actually.
>>> 
>>> Granted, I'm not perfect at it, but it does make some tasks quicker. 
>>> Like removing all spaces out of a podcast and putting in underscores 
>>> instead in the MP3 title.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:13, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all.
 
 Can anyone give me a good example on when you would use this tool?
 On 08/03/2013, at 3:16 PM, Esther  wrote:
 
> Hi Josh and Sarah,
> 
> You don't need to drag and drop actions that you want to add to an 
> Automator workflow.  Just add the item by pressing "return" when 
> you're focused on your selection.  This actually also works for 
> sighted users, too.  The only difference between pressing "return" 
> and using drag and drop to add an action to an Automator workflow is 
> that your selection gets added to the end of the workflow, whereas a 
> sighted user who drags and drops that action can move it to any 
> position in the workflow -- for example, to add the new action just 
> before the last action in the workflow instead of after it. You can 
> reorder any actions that have been added to the workflow area by 
> interacting with the workflow, then focusing on a particular action, 
> and using Command-Up arrow (or Down arrow) to move it to another 
> position.
> 
> Sarah, I'm not sure what you want to do with variables, but you can 
> can select variables for automator in the same way by pressing 
> "return". So, for example, you'd change your selected library from 
> "actions" to "variables", and then you'd select the variable you want 
> from the list, like "Current time", and press "return".   That 
> selection would show up in a table of variables below your workflow. 
> (VO-Down arrow past the horizontal splitter that separates it from 
> the workflow.)  Then you might use that variable in an action like 
> "Get value of variable" or "Set value of variable", where you switch 
> back to the actions library and select one of those actions for the 
> workflow by pressing "return". Since you've already selected the 
> variable "Current time", the variable that is listed in the pop up 
> for the "Get value of variable" action will be "Current time".  
> However, you can add other variables to your table, and select a 
> different one by navigating to it in that table, before selecting a 
> "Get value of variable" or "Set value of variable" action and 
> pressing return to add it you your workflow.
> 
> HTH.  I don't usually do much with Automator workflows or services 
> unless I'm trying to answer a specific question. The point is that 
> anywhere you read about having to drag and drop, just select 

Re: automator

[Sarah k Alawami]

lol. I have no idea. I have never had the need to do it.  I guess you could 
google the mac world stuff or mac osx hints. to see if they have any advice.

Good luck.
On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Well if the thing wouldn't log me out, I could just download by clicking the 
> links. But that's not the case. How does one create an action? Hell I might 
> just do it myself.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> lol. You're lucky. Some profs at my college don't' allow downloading of 
>> their power points. lol! but yeah let's hope this can be automated some how.
>> Tc all and be blessed.
>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>>> Good, because, and pardon my language, it's a pain in the ass to have to 
>>> download one file be logged out of my college account, have to go back in, 
>>> and re-download one file at a time.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I'm working on it.  Ideally I'd like to be able to write a Safari 
 extension which checked the download source and put it into a folder based 
 on that.  Having 0 luck though.
 On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:40, Josh Gregory  wrote:
 
> Can you make a script to download files? Like PowerPoint
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I had a nice automator script which took any downloaded zip file and 
>> placed it in its own folder.  Only works for one filetype at a time 
>> though I couldn't introduce something like "if it's a zip put it here, 
>> if it's an audiobook put it there" etc.
>> 
>> Dónal
>> On 8 Mar 2013, at 16:31, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Look in the list archives. This week, I have a link to an article that 
>>> explains the way you can use Automator. I use this tool all the time 
>>> actually.
>>> 
>>> Granted, I'm not perfect at it, but it does make some tasks quicker. 
>>> Like removing all spaces out of a podcast and putting in underscores 
>>> instead in the MP3 title.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:13, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all.
 
 Can anyone give me a good example on when you would use this tool?
 On 08/03/2013, at 3:16 PM, Esther  wrote:
 
> Hi Josh and Sarah,
> 
> You don't need to drag and drop actions that you want to add to an 
> Automator workflow.  Just add the item by pressing "return" when 
> you're focused on your selection.  This actually also works for 
> sighted users, too.  The only difference between pressing "return" 
> and using drag and drop to add an action to an Automator workflow is 
> that your selection gets added to the end of the workflow, whereas a 
> sighted user who drags and drops that action can move it to any 
> position in the workflow -- for example, to add the new action just 
> before the last action in the workflow instead of after it. You can 
> reorder any actions that have been added to the workflow area by 
> interacting with the workflow, then focusing on a particular action, 
> and using Command-Up arrow (or Down arrow) to move it to another 
> position.
> 
> Sarah, I'm not sure what you want to do with variables, but you can 
> can select variables for automator in the same way by pressing 
> "return". So, for example, you'd change your selected library from 
> "actions" to "variables", and then you'd select the variable you want 
> from the list, like "Current time", and press "return".   That 
> selection would show up in a table of variables below your workflow. 
> (VO-Down arrow past the horizontal splitter that separates it from 
> the workflow.)  Then you might use that variable in an action like 
> "Get value of variable" or "Set value of variable", where you switch 
> back to the actions library and select one of those actions for the 
> workflow by pressing "return". Since you've already selected the 
> variable "Current time", the variable that is listed in the pop up 
> for the "Get value of variable" action will be "Current time".  
> However, you can add other variables to your table, and select a 
> different one by navigating to it in that table, before selecting a 
> "Get value of variable" or "Set value of variable" action and 
> pressing return to add it you your workflow.
> 
> HTH.  I don't usually do much with Automator workflows or services 
> unless I'm trying to answer a specific question. The point is that 
> anywhere you read about having to drag and drop, just select and 
> press "return".  And if you n

Re: automator

[Josh Gregory]

Well if the thing wouldn't log me out, I could just download by clicking the 
links. But that's not the case. How does one create an action? Hell I might 
just do it myself.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> lol. You're lucky. Some profs at my college don't' allow downloading of their 
> power points. lol! but yeah let's hope this can be automated some how.
> Tc all and be blessed.
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> 
>> Good, because, and pardon my language, it's a pain in the ass to have to 
>> download one file be logged out of my college account, have to go back in, 
>> and re-download one file at a time.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm working on it.  Ideally I'd like to be able to write a Safari extension 
>>> which checked the download source and put it into a folder based on that.  
>>> Having 0 luck though.
>>> On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:40, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
 Can you make a script to download files? Like PowerPoint
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
 wrote:
 
> I had a nice automator script which took any downloaded zip file and 
> placed it in its own folder.  Only works for one filetype at a time 
> though I couldn't introduce something like "if it's a zip put it here, if 
> it's an audiobook put it there" etc.
> 
> Dónal
> On 8 Mar 2013, at 16:31, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Look in the list archives. This week, I have a link to an article that 
>> explains the way you can use Automator. I use this tool all the time 
>> actually.
>> 
>> Granted, I'm not perfect at it, but it does make some tasks quicker. 
>> Like removing all spaces out of a podcast and putting in underscores 
>> instead in the MP3 title.
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:13, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone give me a good example on when you would use this tool?
>>> On 08/03/2013, at 3:16 PM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Josh and Sarah,
 
 You don't need to drag and drop actions that you want to add to an 
 Automator workflow.  Just add the item by pressing "return" when 
 you're focused on your selection.  This actually also works for 
 sighted users, too.  The only difference between pressing "return" and 
 using drag and drop to add an action to an Automator workflow is that 
 your selection gets added to the end of the workflow, whereas a 
 sighted user who drags and drops that action can move it to any 
 position in the workflow -- for example, to add the new action just 
 before the last action in the workflow instead of after it. You can 
 reorder any actions that have been added to the workflow area by 
 interacting with the workflow, then focusing on a particular action, 
 and using Command-Up arrow (or Down arrow) to move it to another 
 position.
 
 Sarah, I'm not sure what you want to do with variables, but you can 
 can select variables for automator in the same way by pressing 
 "return". So, for example, you'd change your selected library from 
 "actions" to "variables", and then you'd select the variable you want 
 from the list, like "Current time", and press "return".   That 
 selection would show up in a table of variables below your workflow. 
 (VO-Down arrow past the horizontal splitter that separates it from the 
 workflow.)  Then you might use that variable in an action like "Get 
 value of variable" or "Set value of variable", where you switch back 
 to the actions library and select one of those actions for the 
 workflow by pressing "return". Since you've already selected the 
 variable "Current time", the variable that is listed in the pop up for 
 the "Get value of variable" action will be "Current time".  However, 
 you can add other variables to your table, and select a different one 
 by navigating to it in that table, before selecting a "Get value of 
 variable" or "Set value of variable" action and pressing return to add 
 it you your workflow.
 
 HTH.  I don't usually do much with Automator workflows or services 
 unless I'm trying to answer a specific question. The point is that 
 anywhere you read about having to drag and drop, just select and press 
 "return".  And if you need to reorder an action in the workflow, 
 interact with the workflow and use Command-Up arrow or Down arrow to 
 change the position of your selected action.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
 
> Yeah

Re: automator

[Sarah k Alawami]

lol. You're lucky. Some profs at my college don't' allow downloading of their 
power points. lol! but yeah let's hope this can be automated some how.
 Tc all and be blessed.
On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Good, because, and pardon my language, it's a pain in the ass to have to 
> download one file be logged out of my college account, have to go back in, 
> and re-download one file at a time.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm working on it.  Ideally I'd like to be able to write a Safari extension 
>> which checked the download source and put it into a folder based on that.  
>> Having 0 luck though.
>> On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:40, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>>> Can you make a script to download files? Like PowerPoint
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I had a nice automator script which took any downloaded zip file and 
 placed it in its own folder.  Only works for one filetype at a time though 
 I couldn't introduce something like "if it's a zip put it here, if it's an 
 audiobook put it there" etc.
 
 Dónal
 On 8 Mar 2013, at 16:31, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
 
> Look in the list archives. This week, I have a link to an article that 
> explains the way you can use Automator. I use this tool all the time 
> actually.
> 
> Granted, I'm not perfect at it, but it does make some tasks quicker. Like 
> removing all spaces out of a podcast and putting in underscores instead 
> in the MP3 title.
> 
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:13, Sean Murphy  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all.
>> 
>> Can anyone give me a good example on when you would use this tool?
>> On 08/03/2013, at 3:16 PM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Josh and Sarah,
>>> 
>>> You don't need to drag and drop actions that you want to add to an 
>>> Automator workflow.  Just add the item by pressing "return" when you're 
>>> focused on your selection.  This actually also works for sighted users, 
>>> too.  The only difference between pressing "return" and using drag and 
>>> drop to add an action to an Automator workflow is that your selection 
>>> gets added to the end of the workflow, whereas a sighted user who drags 
>>> and drops that action can move it to any position in the workflow -- 
>>> for example, to add the new action just before the last action in the 
>>> workflow instead of after it. You can reorder any actions that have 
>>> been added to the workflow area by interacting with the workflow, then 
>>> focusing on a particular action, and using Command-Up arrow (or Down 
>>> arrow) to move it to another position.
>>> 
>>> Sarah, I'm not sure what you want to do with variables, but you can can 
>>> select variables for automator in the same way by pressing "return". 
>>> So, for example, you'd change your selected library from "actions" to 
>>> "variables", and then you'd select the variable you want from the list, 
>>> like "Current time", and press "return".   That selection would show up 
>>> in a table of variables below your workflow. (VO-Down arrow past the 
>>> horizontal splitter that separates it from the workflow.)  Then you 
>>> might use that variable in an action like "Get value of variable" or 
>>> "Set value of variable", where you switch back to the actions library 
>>> and select one of those actions for the workflow by pressing "return". 
>>> Since you've already selected the variable "Current time", the variable 
>>> that is listed in the pop up for the "Get value of variable" action 
>>> will be "Current time".  However, you can add other variables to your 
>>> table, and select a different one by navigating to it in that table, 
>>> before selecting a "Get value of variable" or "Set value of variable" 
>>> action and pressing return to add it you your workflow.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  I don't usually do much with Automator workflows or services 
>>> unless I'm trying to answer a specific question. The point is that 
>>> anywhere you read about having to drag and drop, just select and press 
>>> "return".  And if you need to reorder an action in the workflow, 
>>> interact with the workflow and use Command-Up arrow or Down arrow to 
>>> change the position of your selected action.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
>>> 
 Yeah I know… There's a couple things that I want to do but that I 
 can't because I can't figure out how to drag.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Sarah k Alawami  
 wrote:
 
> lol. I'm still trying to figure it out. I know you can hit enter to 
> let's say insert a new mail me

Re: automator

[Josh Gregory]

Good, because, and pardon my language, it's a pain in the ass to have to 
download one file be logged out of my college account, have to go back in, and 
re-download one file at a time.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:

> I'm working on it.  Ideally I'd like to be able to write a Safari extension 
> which checked the download source and put it into a folder based on that.  
> Having 0 luck though.
> On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:40, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> 
>> Can you make a script to download files? Like PowerPoint
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I had a nice automator script which took any downloaded zip file and placed 
>>> it in its own folder.  Only works for one filetype at a time though I 
>>> couldn't introduce something like "if it's a zip put it here, if it's an 
>>> audiobook put it there" etc.
>>> 
>>> Dónal
>>> On 8 Mar 2013, at 16:31, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
 Look in the list archives. This week, I have a link to an article that 
 explains the way you can use Automator. I use this tool all the time 
 actually.
 
 Granted, I'm not perfect at it, but it does make some tasks quicker. Like 
 removing all spaces out of a podcast and putting in underscores instead in 
 the MP3 title.
 
 On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:13, Sean Murphy  wrote:
 
> Hello all.
> 
> Can anyone give me a good example on when you would use this tool?
> On 08/03/2013, at 3:16 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Josh and Sarah,
>> 
>> You don't need to drag and drop actions that you want to add to an 
>> Automator workflow.  Just add the item by pressing "return" when you're 
>> focused on your selection.  This actually also works for sighted users, 
>> too.  The only difference between pressing "return" and using drag and 
>> drop to add an action to an Automator workflow is that your selection 
>> gets added to the end of the workflow, whereas a sighted user who drags 
>> and drops that action can move it to any position in the workflow -- for 
>> example, to add the new action just before the last action in the 
>> workflow instead of after it. You can reorder any actions that have been 
>> added to the workflow area by interacting with the workflow, then 
>> focusing on a particular action, and using Command-Up arrow (or Down 
>> arrow) to move it to another position.
>> 
>> Sarah, I'm not sure what you want to do with variables, but you can can 
>> select variables for automator in the same way by pressing "return". So, 
>> for example, you'd change your selected library from "actions" to 
>> "variables", and then you'd select the variable you want from the list, 
>> like "Current time", and press "return".   That selection would show up 
>> in a table of variables below your workflow. (VO-Down arrow past the 
>> horizontal splitter that separates it from the workflow.)  Then you 
>> might use that variable in an action like "Get value of variable" or 
>> "Set value of variable", where you switch back to the actions library 
>> and select one of those actions for the workflow by pressing "return". 
>> Since you've already selected the variable "Current time", the variable 
>> that is listed in the pop up for the "Get value of variable" action will 
>> be "Current time".  However, you can add other variables to your table, 
>> and select a different one by navigating to it in that table, before 
>> selecting a "Get value of variable" or "Set value of variable" action 
>> and pressing return to add it you your workflow.
>> 
>> HTH.  I don't usually do much with Automator workflows or services 
>> unless I'm trying to answer a specific question. The point is that 
>> anywhere you read about having to drag and drop, just select and press 
>> "return".  And if you need to reorder an action in the workflow, 
>> interact with the workflow and use Command-Up arrow or Down arrow to 
>> change the position of your selected action.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah I know… There's a couple things that I want to do but that I can't 
>>> because I can't figure out how to drag.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
 lol. I'm still trying to figure it out. I know you can hit enter to 
 let's say insert a new mail message action but that's about it. I 
 can't drag a veritable on top of a pop up button as voice over does 
 not let me.
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
 
> Hi there, I believe somebody asked this before, but how is it 
> possible to drag stuff in automator? you have to drag st

Re: automator

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

I'm working on it.  Ideally I'd like to be able to write a Safari extension 
which checked the download source and put it into a folder based on that.  
Having 0 luck though.
On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:40, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Can you make a script to download files? Like PowerPoint
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
> wrote:
> 
>> I had a nice automator script which took any downloaded zip file and placed 
>> it in its own folder.  Only works for one filetype at a time though I 
>> couldn't introduce something like "if it's a zip put it here, if it's an 
>> audiobook put it there" etc.
>> 
>> Dónal
>> On 8 Mar 2013, at 16:31, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Look in the list archives. This week, I have a link to an article that 
>>> explains the way you can use Automator. I use this tool all the time 
>>> actually.
>>> 
>>> Granted, I'm not perfect at it, but it does make some tasks quicker. Like 
>>> removing all spaces out of a podcast and putting in underscores instead in 
>>> the MP3 title.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:13, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all.
 
 Can anyone give me a good example on when you would use this tool?
 On 08/03/2013, at 3:16 PM, Esther  wrote:
 
> Hi Josh and Sarah,
> 
> You don't need to drag and drop actions that you want to add to an 
> Automator workflow.  Just add the item by pressing "return" when you're 
> focused on your selection.  This actually also works for sighted users, 
> too.  The only difference between pressing "return" and using drag and 
> drop to add an action to an Automator workflow is that your selection 
> gets added to the end of the workflow, whereas a sighted user who drags 
> and drops that action can move it to any position in the workflow -- for 
> example, to add the new action just before the last action in the 
> workflow instead of after it. You can reorder any actions that have been 
> added to the workflow area by interacting with the workflow, then 
> focusing on a particular action, and using Command-Up arrow (or Down 
> arrow) to move it to another position.
> 
> Sarah, I'm not sure what you want to do with variables, but you can can 
> select variables for automator in the same way by pressing "return". So, 
> for example, you'd change your selected library from "actions" to 
> "variables", and then you'd select the variable you want from the list, 
> like "Current time", and press "return".   That selection would show up 
> in a table of variables below your workflow. (VO-Down arrow past the 
> horizontal splitter that separates it from the workflow.)  Then you might 
> use that variable in an action like "Get value of variable" or "Set value 
> of variable", where you switch back to the actions library and select one 
> of those actions for the workflow by pressing "return". Since you've 
> already selected the variable "Current time", the variable that is listed 
> in the pop up for the "Get value of variable" action will be "Current 
> time".  However, you can add other variables to your table, and select a 
> different one by navigating to it in that table, before selecting a "Get 
> value of variable" or "Set value of variable" action and pressing return 
> to add it you your workflow.
> 
> HTH.  I don't usually do much with Automator workflows or services unless 
> I'm trying to answer a specific question. The point is that anywhere you 
> read about having to drag and drop, just select and press "return".  And 
> if you need to reorder an action in the workflow, interact with the 
> workflow and use Command-Up arrow or Down arrow to change the position of 
> your selected action.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
> 
>> Yeah I know… There's a couple things that I want to do but that I can't 
>> because I can't figure out how to drag.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> lol. I'm still trying to figure it out. I know you can hit enter to 
>>> let's say insert a new mail message action but that's about it. I can't 
>>> drag a veritable on top of a pop up button as voice over does not let 
>>> me.
>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there, I believe somebody asked this before, but how is it possible 
 to drag stuff in automator? you have to drag stuff on to what ever 
 you're trying to create, and I can't figure how to do that. Any 
 assistance would be greatly appreciated, thanks very much!
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Re: automator

[Sarah k Alawami]

Not that I'm aware of.  but you never know. There might be an action someone 
created on the internet you could add to the automated and then use it.

Take care.
On Mar 8, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Can you make a script to download files? Like PowerPoint
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
> wrote:
> 
>> I had a nice automator script which took any downloaded zip file and placed 
>> it in its own folder.  Only works for one filetype at a time though I 
>> couldn't introduce something like "if it's a zip put it here, if it's an 
>> audiobook put it there" etc.
>> 
>> Dónal
>> On 8 Mar 2013, at 16:31, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Look in the list archives. This week, I have a link to an article that 
>>> explains the way you can use Automator. I use this tool all the time 
>>> actually.
>>> 
>>> Granted, I'm not perfect at it, but it does make some tasks quicker. Like 
>>> removing all spaces out of a podcast and putting in underscores instead in 
>>> the MP3 title.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:13, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all.
 
 Can anyone give me a good example on when you would use this tool?
 On 08/03/2013, at 3:16 PM, Esther  wrote:
 
> Hi Josh and Sarah,
> 
> You don't need to drag and drop actions that you want to add to an 
> Automator workflow.  Just add the item by pressing "return" when you're 
> focused on your selection.  This actually also works for sighted users, 
> too.  The only difference between pressing "return" and using drag and 
> drop to add an action to an Automator workflow is that your selection 
> gets added to the end of the workflow, whereas a sighted user who drags 
> and drops that action can move it to any position in the workflow -- for 
> example, to add the new action just before the last action in the 
> workflow instead of after it. You can reorder any actions that have been 
> added to the workflow area by interacting with the workflow, then 
> focusing on a particular action, and using Command-Up arrow (or Down 
> arrow) to move it to another position.
> 
> Sarah, I'm not sure what you want to do with variables, but you can can 
> select variables for automator in the same way by pressing "return". So, 
> for example, you'd change your selected library from "actions" to 
> "variables", and then you'd select the variable you want from the list, 
> like "Current time", and press "return".   That selection would show up 
> in a table of variables below your workflow. (VO-Down arrow past the 
> horizontal splitter that separates it from the workflow.)  Then you might 
> use that variable in an action like "Get value of variable" or "Set value 
> of variable", where you switch back to the actions library and select one 
> of those actions for the workflow by pressing "return". Since you've 
> already selected the variable "Current time", the variable that is listed 
> in the pop up for the "Get value of variable" action will be "Current 
> time".  However, you can add other variables to your table, and select a 
> different one by navigating to it in that table, before selecting a "Get 
> value of variable" or "Set value of variable" action and pressing return 
> to add it you your workflow.
> 
> HTH.  I don't usually do much with Automator workflows or services unless 
> I'm trying to answer a specific question. The point is that anywhere you 
> read about having to drag and drop, just select and press "return".  And 
> if you need to reorder an action in the workflow, interact with the 
> workflow and use Command-Up arrow or Down arrow to change the position of 
> your selected action.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
> 
>> Yeah I know… There's a couple things that I want to do but that I can't 
>> because I can't figure out how to drag.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> lol. I'm still trying to figure it out. I know you can hit enter to 
>>> let's say insert a new mail message action but that's about it. I can't 
>>> drag a veritable on top of a pop up button as voice over does not let 
>>> me.
>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there, I believe somebody asked this before, but how is it possible 
 to drag stuff in automator? you have to drag stuff on to what ever 
 you're trying to create, and I can't figure how to do that. Any 
 assistance would be greatly appreciated, thanks very much!
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Re: preview program question

[Josh Gregory]

No problem, I'm glad I could help

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Cathy  wrote:

> ah Josh,
> thank you. I just let it start reading, did not interact. but doing so, did 
> help a lot. thanks.
> Cathy
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Re: automator

[Josh Gregory]

Can you make a script to download files? Like PowerPoint

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
wrote:

> I had a nice automator script which took any downloaded zip file and placed 
> it in its own folder.  Only works for one filetype at a time though I 
> couldn't introduce something like "if it's a zip put it here, if it's an 
> audiobook put it there" etc.
> 
> Dónal
> On 8 Mar 2013, at 16:31, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Look in the list archives. This week, I have a link to an article that 
>> explains the way you can use Automator. I use this tool all the time 
>> actually.
>> 
>> Granted, I'm not perfect at it, but it does make some tasks quicker. Like 
>> removing all spaces out of a podcast and putting in underscores instead in 
>> the MP3 title.
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:13, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone give me a good example on when you would use this tool?
>>> On 08/03/2013, at 3:16 PM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Josh and Sarah,
 
 You don't need to drag and drop actions that you want to add to an 
 Automator workflow.  Just add the item by pressing "return" when you're 
 focused on your selection.  This actually also works for sighted users, 
 too.  The only difference between pressing "return" and using drag and 
 drop to add an action to an Automator workflow is that your selection gets 
 added to the end of the workflow, whereas a sighted user who drags and 
 drops that action can move it to any position in the workflow -- for 
 example, to add the new action just before the last action in the workflow 
 instead of after it. You can reorder any actions that have been added to 
 the workflow area by interacting with the workflow, then focusing on a 
 particular action, and using Command-Up arrow (or Down arrow) to move it 
 to another position.
 
 Sarah, I'm not sure what you want to do with variables, but you can can 
 select variables for automator in the same way by pressing "return". So, 
 for example, you'd change your selected library from "actions" to 
 "variables", and then you'd select the variable you want from the list, 
 like "Current time", and press "return".   That selection would show up in 
 a table of variables below your workflow. (VO-Down arrow past the 
 horizontal splitter that separates it from the workflow.)  Then you might 
 use that variable in an action like "Get value of variable" or "Set value 
 of variable", where you switch back to the actions library and select one 
 of those actions for the workflow by pressing "return". Since you've 
 already selected the variable "Current time", the variable that is listed 
 in the pop up for the "Get value of variable" action will be "Current 
 time".  However, you can add other variables to your table, and select a 
 different one by navigating to it in that table, before selecting a "Get 
 value of variable" or "Set value of variable" action and pressing return 
 to add it you your workflow.
 
 HTH.  I don't usually do much with Automator workflows or services unless 
 I'm trying to answer a specific question. The point is that anywhere you 
 read about having to drag and drop, just select and press "return".  And 
 if you need to reorder an action in the workflow, interact with the 
 workflow and use Command-Up arrow or Down arrow to change the position of 
 your selected action.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
 
> Yeah I know… There's a couple things that I want to do but that I can't 
> because I can't figure out how to drag.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> lol. I'm still trying to figure it out. I know you can hit enter to 
>> let's say insert a new mail message action but that's about it. I can't 
>> drag a veritable on top of a pop up button as voice over does not let me.
>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there, I believe somebody asked this before, but how is it possible 
>>> to drag stuff in automator? you have to drag stuff on to what ever 
>>> you're trying to create, and I can't figure how to do that. Any 
>>> assistance would be greatly appreciated, thanks very much!
 
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Re: seeing eye gps

[Sarah k Alawami]

We don't' yet know but we do know it will be as far as the devs have said $99 
unless you want to buy  other maps then  I don't now how much it will be in 
edition to the $99 but you only pay that once which I guess is good but still. 
I actually expected to have it cost about as much as the other gps apps out 
there which run from $30 to $50. Just my thoughts.

Take care.
On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:12 AM, William Lomas  wrote:

>   hi do people know please when the seeing eye app should be available?
> I know it is in testing and all slots have been taken so am not looking for 
> any info not relating to what i already know.
> how though do we make suggestions?
> for example one feature i'd like is to be on public transport like a bus, but 
> not have a specific route planned and have it announce roads and streets as i 
> turn on to them or am passing them nearby as does the trekker from human ware 
> at the moment
> regards wil
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seeing eye gps

[William Lomas]

hi do people know please when the seeing eye app should be available?
I know it is in testing and all slots have been taken so am not looking for any 
info not relating to what i already know.
how though do we make suggestions?
for example one feature i'd like is to be on public transport like a bus, but 
not have a specific route planned and have it announce roads and streets as i 
turn on to them or am passing them nearby as does the trekker from human ware 
at the moment
regards wil

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Re: automator

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

I had a nice automator script which took any downloaded zip file and placed it 
in its own folder.  Only works for one filetype at a time though I couldn't 
introduce something like "if it's a zip put it here, if it's an audiobook put 
it there" etc.

Dónal
On 8 Mar 2013, at 16:31, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> Look in the list archives. This week, I have a link to an article that 
> explains the way you can use Automator. I use this tool all the time actually.
> 
> Granted, I'm not perfect at it, but it does make some tasks quicker. Like 
> removing all spaces out of a podcast and putting in underscores instead in 
> the MP3 title.
> 
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:13, Sean Murphy  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all.
>> 
>> Can anyone give me a good example on when you would use this tool?
>> On 08/03/2013, at 3:16 PM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Josh and Sarah,
>>> 
>>> You don't need to drag and drop actions that you want to add to an 
>>> Automator workflow.  Just add the item by pressing "return" when you're 
>>> focused on your selection.  This actually also works for sighted users, 
>>> too.  The only difference between pressing "return" and using drag and drop 
>>> to add an action to an Automator workflow is that your selection gets added 
>>> to the end of the workflow, whereas a sighted user who drags and drops that 
>>> action can move it to any position in the workflow -- for example, to add 
>>> the new action just before the last action in the workflow instead of after 
>>> it. You can reorder any actions that have been added to the workflow area 
>>> by interacting with the workflow, then focusing on a particular action, and 
>>> using Command-Up arrow (or Down arrow) to move it to another position.
>>> 
>>> Sarah, I'm not sure what you want to do with variables, but you can can 
>>> select variables for automator in the same way by pressing "return". So, 
>>> for example, you'd change your selected library from "actions" to 
>>> "variables", and then you'd select the variable you want from the list, 
>>> like "Current time", and press "return".   That selection would show up in 
>>> a table of variables below your workflow. (VO-Down arrow past the 
>>> horizontal splitter that separates it from the workflow.)  Then you might 
>>> use that variable in an action like "Get value of variable" or "Set value 
>>> of variable", where you switch back to the actions library and select one 
>>> of those actions for the workflow by pressing "return". Since you've 
>>> already selected the variable "Current time", the variable that is listed 
>>> in the pop up for the "Get value of variable" action will be "Current 
>>> time".  However, you can add other variables to your table, and select a 
>>> different one by navigating to it in that table, before selecting a "Get 
>>> value of variable" or "Set value of variable" action and pressing return to 
>>> add it you your workflow.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  I don't usually do much with Automator workflows or services unless 
>>> I'm trying to answer a specific question. The point is that anywhere you 
>>> read about having to drag and drop, just select and press "return".  And if 
>>> you need to reorder an action in the workflow, interact with the workflow 
>>> and use Command-Up arrow or Down arrow to change the position of your 
>>> selected action.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
>>> 
 Yeah I know… There's a couple things that I want to do but that I can't 
 because I can't figure out how to drag.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
 
> lol. I'm still trying to figure it out. I know you can hit enter to let's 
> say insert a new mail message action but that's about it. I can't drag a 
> veritable on top of a pop up button as voice over does not let me.
> On Mar 7, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there, I believe somebody asked this before, but how is it possible 
>> to drag stuff in automator? you have to drag stuff on to what ever 
>> you're trying to create, and I can't figure how to do that. Any 
>> assistance would be greatly appreciated, thanks very much!
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Re: automator

[Sarah Alawami]

Look in the list archives. This week, I have a link to an article that explains 
the way you can use Automator. I use this tool all the time actually.

Granted, I'm not perfect at it, but it does make some tasks quicker. Like 
removing all spaces out of a podcast and putting in underscores instead in the 
MP3 title.

On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:13, Sean Murphy  wrote:

> Hello all.
> 
> Can anyone give me a good example on when you would use this tool?
> On 08/03/2013, at 3:16 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Josh and Sarah,
>> 
>> You don't need to drag and drop actions that you want to add to an Automator 
>> workflow.  Just add the item by pressing "return" when you're focused on 
>> your selection.  This actually also works for sighted users, too.  The only 
>> difference between pressing "return" and using drag and drop to add an 
>> action to an Automator workflow is that your selection gets added to the end 
>> of the workflow, whereas a sighted user who drags and drops that action can 
>> move it to any position in the workflow -- for example, to add the new 
>> action just before the last action in the workflow instead of after it. You 
>> can reorder any actions that have been added to the workflow area by 
>> interacting with the workflow, then focusing on a particular action, and 
>> using Command-Up arrow (or Down arrow) to move it to another position.
>> 
>> Sarah, I'm not sure what you want to do with variables, but you can can 
>> select variables for automator in the same way by pressing "return". So, for 
>> example, you'd change your selected library from "actions" to "variables", 
>> and then you'd select the variable you want from the list, like "Current 
>> time", and press "return".   That selection would show up in a table of 
>> variables below your workflow. (VO-Down arrow past the horizontal splitter 
>> that separates it from the workflow.)  Then you might use that variable in 
>> an action like "Get value of variable" or "Set value of variable", where you 
>> switch back to the actions library and select one of those actions for the 
>> workflow by pressing "return". Since you've already selected the variable 
>> "Current time", the variable that is listed in the pop up for the "Get value 
>> of variable" action will be "Current time".  However, you can add other 
>> variables to your table, and select a different one by navigating to it in 
>> that table, before selecting a "Get value of variable" or "Set value of 
>> variable" action and pressing return to add it you your workflow.
>> 
>> HTH.  I don't usually do much with Automator workflows or services unless 
>> I'm trying to answer a specific question. The point is that anywhere you 
>> read about having to drag and drop, just select and press "return".  And if 
>> you need to reorder an action in the workflow, interact with the workflow 
>> and use Command-Up arrow or Down arrow to change the position of your 
>> selected action.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah I know… There's a couple things that I want to do but that I can't 
>>> because I can't figure out how to drag.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
 lol. I'm still trying to figure it out. I know you can hit enter to let's 
 say insert a new mail message action but that's about it. I can't drag a 
 veritable on top of a pop up button as voice over does not let me.
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
 
> Hi there, I believe somebody asked this before, but how is it possible to 
> drag stuff in automator? you have to drag stuff on to what ever you're 
> trying to create, and I can't figure how to do that. Any assistance would 
> be greatly appreciated, thanks very much!
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Re: Skype and msn problem

[matthew Dyer]

Ok.  I'll give that a shot  and see what happens.  Thanks.

Matthew


On Mar 7, 2013, at 11:41 PM, michael wrote:

> Yes i am useing the latest Matthew  but i relly  think wen i told you after 
> skype loads and i pressed tab untill i heard a yes and a no button.
> I think this is why mine loads streight in too the contacks.
> Cheers.
> 
> -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:52 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Skype and msn problem
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Are you using the latest version of skype.  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 6, 2013, at 10:23 PM, michael wrote:
> 
>> Hi Matthew I do not have any skype credits and mine just comes up in the 
>> contacts list.
>> 1 thing is after i started skype a couple of times i just pressed tab a few 
>> times and i heard a message saying yes or no it did not give me any other 
>> ingomation.
>> So i just clicked yes to it and maybe it is why mine loads up to contacts.
>> cheers Michael.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer
>> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:37 AM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Skype and msn problem
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When I sign in I am placed in the skype home.  how do I tell skype to place 
>> me in the contact list at sign in?  I am using skype 6.2.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:22 PM, michael wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Matthew wen i log in my skype comes up and i am in the contact list 
>>> already I just arrow down.
>>> But thing I hate is from the list it tells me if my skype contacts are on 
>>> line.but my msn ones it does not say their on or off line.
>>> Cheers Michael.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:29 AM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Skype and msn problem
>>> 
>>> Hi yes I did.  all is working now.  I do how ever have one question.  How 
>>> do i tell skype to go strate to my contacts rather than the skype home? It 
>>> is quite anoing.  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, michael wrote:
>>> 
 Have you actually merged skype too msn.
 I took a few times to get mine working.
 I had to install the WE script to read other options for skype.
 cheers Michael.
 
 -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:40 AM
 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Skype and msn problem
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have a problem with skype not staying signed in to msn fpor mpore than a 
 few seconds.  If I try to sign in to msn through skype it just signs me 
 rite back out again.  Any ideas on why tthis might be happening? Thanks.
 
 Matthew
 
 
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Re: preview program question

[Cathy]

ah Josh,
thank you. I just let it start reading, did not interact. but doing so, did 
help a lot. thanks.
Cathy

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Re: preview program question

[Josh Gregory]

I typically just interact with the text, and it works from there.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Cathy  wrote:

> hello,
> 
> I was attempting to read a .pdf file in preview. the document had at least 
> two columns and I was unable to figure out how to read one column at a time. 
> how can I do this in this ap, or do I need another ap in order to do this?
> 
> thanks, Cathy
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preview program question

[Cathy]

hello,

I was attempting to read a .pdf file in preview. the document had at least two 
columns and I was unable to figure out how to read one column at a time. how 
can I do this in this ap, or do I need another ap in order to do this?

thanks, Cathy

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Re: automator

[Sean Murphy]

Hello all.

Can anyone give me a good example on when you would use this tool?
On 08/03/2013, at 3:16 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Josh and Sarah,
> 
> You don't need to drag and drop actions that you want to add to an Automator 
> workflow.  Just add the item by pressing "return" when you're focused on your 
> selection.  This actually also works for sighted users, too.  The only 
> difference between pressing "return" and using drag and drop to add an action 
> to an Automator workflow is that your selection gets added to the end of the 
> workflow, whereas a sighted user who drags and drops that action can move it 
> to any position in the workflow -- for example, to add the new action just 
> before the last action in the workflow instead of after it. You can reorder 
> any actions that have been added to the workflow area by interacting with the 
> workflow, then focusing on a particular action, and using Command-Up arrow 
> (or Down arrow) to move it to another position.
> 
> Sarah, I'm not sure what you want to do with variables, but you can can 
> select variables for automator in the same way by pressing "return". So, for 
> example, you'd change your selected library from "actions" to "variables", 
> and then you'd select the variable you want from the list, like "Current 
> time", and press "return".   That selection would show up in a table of 
> variables below your workflow. (VO-Down arrow past the horizontal splitter 
> that separates it from the workflow.)  Then you might use that variable in an 
> action like "Get value of variable" or "Set value of variable", where you 
> switch back to the actions library and select one of those actions for the 
> workflow by pressing "return". Since you've already selected the variable 
> "Current time", the variable that is listed in the pop up for the "Get value 
> of variable" action will be "Current time".  However, you can add other 
> variables to your table, and select a different one by navigating to it in 
> that table, before selecting a "Get value of variable" or "Set value of 
> variable" action and pressing return to add it you your workflow.
> 
> HTH.  I don't usually do much with Automator workflows or services unless I'm 
> trying to answer a specific question. The point is that anywhere you read 
> about having to drag and drop, just select and press "return".  And if you 
> need to reorder an action in the workflow, interact with the workflow and use 
> Command-Up arrow or Down arrow to change the position of your selected action.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
> 
>> Yeah I know… There's a couple things that I want to do but that I can't 
>> because I can't figure out how to drag.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> lol. I'm still trying to figure it out. I know you can hit enter to let's 
>>> say insert a new mail message action but that's about it. I can't drag a 
>>> veritable on top of a pop up button as voice over does not let me.
>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there, I believe somebody asked this before, but how is it possible to 
 drag stuff in automator? you have to drag stuff on to what ever you're 
 trying to create, and I can't figure how to do that. Any assistance would 
 be greatly appreciated, thanks very much!
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