mouse clicking with VO
hey listers, i'm having abit of trubbel with a website. there are bits of text on the pottermore site that can be clicked, the problem is that even if i hit VO cmd f5 to move the mouse pointer to the spot it never clicks what i want it to click on. i'm getting quite mad over this. any help getting to grips with this would be fantastic. thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
My phone no longer recognizes me?
Hi there, I'm hoping someone might have a good answer for me. If you recall, I emailed mentioning that there had been a change regarding my own personal contact information in my contacts list on my IPhone. Well, when I was using Siri, I noticed it no longer called me by name and didn't seem to know who I was. Also, I noticed that when I'd look in my contacts list, before actually going through the list, it would say something like My number and then say my number. This time, it no longer presents my number. Did I somehow unregister my phone or do something with the information my phone had about me? How do I recover it? Do I have to do something via Itunes, or go somewhere in the settings? Any help would be appreciated, please. Thank you. Jim --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Blogging on a Mac
Thanks. I'm reading up on it now - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 02:50, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: WordPress.com is definitely the way to go. You don't download anything and you don't have to set up your own server. There's a document called learn WordPress or something like that on the support.WordPress.com site read that it'll help. Sent from my IPhone On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Is wordpress the best way to go for simplicity of blogging on a Mac? I've just looked at the Wordpress website. Do I just download the latest version, and then create an account? Is it accessible with VO? - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mouse clicking with VO
hey andy, thanks for the reply to my question. i have played around with crome a tad and am wondering if there is a way to make it a bit more accessible? it's just little things like importing bookmarks and such. thanks for any help Michael On 03/10/2013, at 8:20 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - This may or may not help, but I have encountered this when using Safari, but had better success when using Google Chrome. I use Chrome most of the time as it does seem to work better - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 07:19, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having abit of trubbel with a website. there are bits of text on the pottermore site that can be clicked, the problem is that even if i hit VO cmd f5 to move the mouse pointer to the spot it never clicks what i want it to click on. i'm getting quite mad over this. any help getting to grips with this would be fantastic. thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mouse clicking with VO
Hi Michael - I've not use Chrome for that kind of thing. Perhaps like me you may have to use both browsers, determined by how a website functions with each. I guess you could keep Safari as your main one, especially if that's where your book marks are, and just use Chrome when you find things aren't going so well under Safari. Not perfect is it, but I guess we have to keep adapting - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 12:34, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, thanks for the reply to my question. i have played around with crome a tad and am wondering if there is a way to make it a bit more accessible? it's just little things like importing bookmarks and such. thanks for any help Michael On 03/10/2013, at 8:20 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - This may or may not help, but I have encountered this when using Safari, but had better success when using Google Chrome. I use Chrome most of the time as it does seem to work better - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 07:19, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having abit of trubbel with a website. there are bits of text on the pottermore site that can be clicked, the problem is that even if i hit VO cmd f5 to move the mouse pointer to the spot it never clicks what i want it to click on. i'm getting quite mad over this. any help getting to grips with this would be fantastic. thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac
Re: mouse clicking with VO
hey andy, good thinking there, i will test crome if a site is not working with the other one. thanks Michael On 03/10/2013, at 10:21 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - I've not use Chrome for that kind of thing. Perhaps like me you may have to use both browsers, determined by how a website functions with each. I guess you could keep Safari as your main one, especially if that's where your book marks are, and just use Chrome when you find things aren't going so well under Safari. Not perfect is it, but I guess we have to keep adapting - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 12:34, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, thanks for the reply to my question. i have played around with crome a tad and am wondering if there is a way to make it a bit more accessible? it's just little things like importing bookmarks and such. thanks for any help Michael On 03/10/2013, at 8:20 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - This may or may not help, but I have encountered this when using Safari, but had better success when using Google Chrome. I use Chrome most of the time as it does seem to work better - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 07:19, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having abit of trubbel with a website. there are bits of text on the pottermore site that can be clicked, the problem is that even if i hit VO cmd f5 to move the mouse pointer to the spot it never clicks what i want it to click on. i'm getting quite mad over this. any help getting to grips with this would be fantastic. thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html
Re: mouse clicking with VO
download and use chrome vox. I don't have a link to it but there i a list that discusses chrome accessibility. I can get that stuff to you later when I get back home from classes today if you want. Good luck. On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, good thinking there, i will test crome if a site is not working with the other one. thanks Michael On 03/10/2013, at 10:21 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - I've not use Chrome for that kind of thing. Perhaps like me you may have to use both browsers, determined by how a website functions with each. I guess you could keep Safari as your main one, especially if that's where your book marks are, and just use Chrome when you find things aren't going so well under Safari. Not perfect is it, but I guess we have to keep adapting - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 12:34, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, thanks for the reply to my question. i have played around with crome a tad and am wondering if there is a way to make it a bit more accessible? it's just little things like importing bookmarks and such. thanks for any help Michael On 03/10/2013, at 8:20 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - This may or may not help, but I have encountered this when using Safari, but had better success when using Google Chrome. I use Chrome most of the time as it does seem to work better - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 07:19, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having abit of trubbel with a website. there are bits of text on the pottermore site that can be clicked, the problem is that even if i hit VO cmd f5 to move the mouse pointer to the spot it never clicks what i want it to click on. i'm getting quite mad over this. any help getting to grips with this would be fantastic. thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update
Re: mouse clicking with VO
What can ChromeVox offer VO users that is an improvement over the regular Chrome browser? - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:26, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: download and use chrome vox. I don't have a link to it but there i a list that discusses chrome accessibility. I can get that stuff to you later when I get back home from classes today if you want. Good luck. On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, good thinking there, i will test crome if a site is not working with the other one. thanks Michael On 03/10/2013, at 10:21 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - I've not use Chrome for that kind of thing. Perhaps like me you may have to use both browsers, determined by how a website functions with each. I guess you could keep Safari as your main one, especially if that's where your book marks are, and just use Chrome when you find things aren't going so well under Safari. Not perfect is it, but I guess we have to keep adapting - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 12:34, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, thanks for the reply to my question. i have played around with crome a tad and am wondering if there is a way to make it a bit more accessible? it's just little things like importing bookmarks and such. thanks for any help Michael On 03/10/2013, at 8:20 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - This may or may not help, but I have encountered this when using Safari, but had better success when using Google Chrome. I use Chrome most of the time as it does seem to work better - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 07:19, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having abit of trubbel with a website. there are bits of text on the pottermore site that can be clicked, the problem is that even if i hit VO cmd f5 to move the mouse pointer to the spot it never clicks what i want it to click on. i'm getting quite mad over this. any help getting to grips with this would be fantastic. thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen.
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the
RE: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Hi, Well you were miss informed about there not being a 64gb version of the 5S I have one. I was one of the crazy ones who stood in line on the 20th in the rain to get one. It is a great phone and I love it. It is much more responsive than the 4S. As far as size and shape it is virtually the same as the Iphone 5. Much lighter and thinner than my 4S was. I also got one of the new leather cases from Apple and it is great. Very thin and light. Very nice feel in your hand. As far as ios 7 goes I like it overall. There are a couple of minner issues such as the screen refreshing from time to time and VoiceOver is refreshed and so you loose you place in the app your in. Also when you close an app you don't always end up with the app highlighted on the screen. You end up with the first then on that page highlighted. One of the really nice things is the change to the app switcher. Instead of doing the double click and hold to close apps, you now just swipe down and you have choices to open or close that app. One of the hardest thing for me to teach new users was the double tap and hold gesture. Overall I like it a lot. I think a lot of low vission users don't like the color scheme of IOS 7. There are a number of things that you can do to make things easier to read though. Tommy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:00 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I'm not interested in what the fat cats and the professional analysts say; I'm looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven't gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple's errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I'm going to upgrade there's have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally blind person. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free.
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Agreed Josh and I have the same device. I also don’t like the VO behaviour in the lock-screen. On 3 Oct 2013, at 15:03, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Hi. Yes it is very accessible from a totally blind person's perspective. There is one conflict you need to be aware of. At least, I find it to be a problem. It's hard to double-tap on a field and type in text. Now, the microphone seems to think I want to ictate text. This an make searching for books and putting them into the right colection tricky. Jane On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally blind person. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Hi Jane, This is weird. Dictation can be started by a two-finger double-tap, which is in fact one of my favorite new little features. I’ve never ad problems with a one-finger double tap. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Yes it is very accessible from a totally blind person's perspective. There is one conflict you need to be aware of. At least, I find it to be a problem. It's hard to double-tap on a field and type in text. Now, the microphone seems to think I want to ictate text. This an make searching for books and putting them into the right colection tricky. Jane On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally blind person. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Edit fields in IOS7 are flakey though. In the IOS6 (and before) days, touching an edit field, whilst editing was ongoing, would only read it not set the focus to wherever in the field one happened to touch. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 16:30, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Jane, This is weird. Dictation can be started by a two-finger double-tap, which is in fact one of my favorite new little features. I’ve never ad problems with a one-finger double tap. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Yes it is very accessible from a totally blind person's perspective. There is one conflict you need to be aware of. At least, I find it to be a problem. It's hard to double-tap on a field and type in text. Now, the microphone seems to think I want to ictate text. This an make searching for books and putting them into the right colection tricky. Jane On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally blind person. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Perhaps I got gestures confused. It's just that for some reason, when using my braille display to type in an edit field, it never taes the first time. I'll have to experiment. Jane On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Jane, This is weird. Dictation can be started by a two-finger double-tap, which is in fact one of my favorite new little features. I’ve never ad problems with a one-finger double tap. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Yes it is very accessible from a totally blind person's perspective. There is one conflict you need to be aware of. At least, I find it to be a problem. It's hard to double-tap on a field and type in text. Now, the microphone seems to think I want to ictate text. This an make searching for books and putting them into the right colection tricky. Jane On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally blind person. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Same here. While I liked iOS 7 under iPhone 4, my experience has been tons better since I upgraded to the iPhone 4s. I love the Siri improvements, which are actually new to me as never got the chance to use Siri on iOS 5 and iOS 6. I also love the overall responsiveness. Whether this is the iPhone 4s itself or iOS 7 I don't know since I only had it a couple of days and not when the iPhoe 4s came out in 2011. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 03/10/2013 16:11, Zachary Kline wrote: I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally blind person. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
The issues I am having with Siri I am probably not aware of since I am new to Siri. I however do experience tiems where one time Siri can't handle requests but next time it can. But I can't blame that on iOS 7. So will put it down to something I get used to with Siri. After all Siri processes information from the phone to Apple's servers then returns a response back if it can. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 03/10/2013 14:57, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating sy stem as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Yes it is probably a bug in siri or it could be a issue wheir siri has two many request to process at one time. On 10/3/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: The issues I am having with Siri I am probably not aware of since I am new to Siri. I however do experience tiems where one time Siri can't handle requests but next time it can. But I can't blame that on iOS 7. So will put it down to something I get used to with Siri. After all Siri processes information from the phone to Apple's servers then returns a response back if it can. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 03/10/2013 14:57, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating sy stem as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Turn on reduced motion in settings general accessibility. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 03/10/2013 15:03, Josh Gregory wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operat ing system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Lynn, if I am correct, the only significant functionality missing on iOS 7 under older phones, even the 4s, is the Airdrop feature, which I'm sure you're familiar with on the Os X platform. For others, it allows certain files to be transferred from one iOS device to another, over bluetooth or wifi. These files can include contacts, media including photos, and I believe links to iTunes Radio stations for those living in the U.S. The other significant function, only available in the 5s, is the ability to unlock your phone and authorize iTunes purchases just by using your fingerprint. The obvious reason for this is only the iPhone 5s has a fingerprint sensor built into the home button. Hope this helps. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 03/10/2013 09:00, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating syste m as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ . --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
The airdrop functionality is due to iPhone 4s and older models lacking the wifi chip technology to allow these transfers. On 10/3/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Lynn, if I am correct, the only significant functionality missing on iOS 7 under older phones, even the 4s, is the Airdrop feature, which I'm sure you're familiar with on the Os X platform. For others, it allows certain files to be transferred from one iOS device to another, over bluetooth or wifi. These files can include contacts, media including photos, and I believe links to iTunes Radio stations for those living in the U.S. The other significant function, only available in the 5s, is the ability to unlock your phone and authorize iTunes purchases just by using your fingerprint. The obvious reason for this is only the iPhone 5s has a fingerprint sensor built into the home button. Hope this helps. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 03/10/2013 09:00, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating syste m as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ . --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me:
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Did that, did pretty much nothing to solve the issue... On 10/3/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Turn on reduced motion in settings general accessibility. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 03/10/2013 15:03, Josh Gregory wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operat ing system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
I have trouble when sending an iMessage because the edit field doesn't seem to be just right there, like it was in IOS6. The keyboard seems to be extra sensitive now. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:33 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Edit fields in IOS7 are flakey though. In the IOS6 (and before) days, touching an edit field, whilst editing was ongoing, would only read it not set the focus to wherever in the field one happened to touch. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 16:30, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Jane, This is weird. Dictation can be started by a two-finger double-tap, which is in fact one of my favorite new little features. I’ve never ad problems with a one-finger double tap. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Yes it is very accessible from a totally blind person's perspective. There is one conflict you need to be aware of. At least, I find it to be a problem. It's hard to double-tap on a field and type in text. Now, the microphone seems to think I want to ictate text. This an make searching for books and putting them into the right colection tricky. Jane On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally blind person. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
I don't see that problem in iMessage. Maybe it's only a sporadic problem. Ben J. Bloomgren Manager CLG Productions Http://www.clgproductions.com 704-256-0067 Hours: Nonday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Eastern accept holidays. On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:46, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: I have trouble when sending an iMessage because the edit field doesn't seem to be just right there, like it was in IOS6. The keyboard seems to be extra sensitive now. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:33 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Edit fields in IOS7 are flakey though. In the IOS6 (and before) days, touching an edit field, whilst editing was ongoing, would only read it not set the focus to wherever in the field one happened to touch. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 16:30, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Jane, This is weird. Dictation can be started by a two-finger double-tap, which is in fact one of my favorite new little features. I’ve never ad problems with a one-finger double tap. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Yes it is very accessible from a totally blind person's perspective. There is one conflict you need to be aware of. At least, I find it to be a problem. It's hard to double-tap on a field and type in text. Now, the microphone seems to think I want to ictate text. This an make searching for books and putting them into the right colection tricky. Jane On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally blind person. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
I am running IOS 7.0.2 on an iPhone 4S and it is very accessible, but does have some annoying bugs. Half the time the two finger double tap to start and pause music doesn't work, and to get it to work again you have to shut the phone off, so this can be fairly annoying, and the other major issue which I am hoping is because I am still using a 4S is apps open much slower and Siri seems to take awhile to comprehend what you are dictating in to a text field. If you can live with some minor annoying issues than I would definitely upgrade. On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Yes it is very accessible from a totally blind person's perspective. There is one conflict you need to be aware of. At least, I find it to be a problem. It's hard to double-tap on a field and type in text. Now, the microphone seems to think I want to ictate text. This an make searching for books and putting them into the right colection tricky. Jane On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally blind person. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I
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Yep gthat's what I shoed in my podcast on my site where it is. I have found vo to be a lot more responsive and I don't need that anyway as I get motion sick anyway lol! On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:48, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Turn on reduced motion in settings general accessibility. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 03/10/2013 15:03, Josh Gregory wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operat ing system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
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It's not that the keboard is more sensitave it's just more responsive. Also the edit field is right there, 1 line at the bottom of the screen witht e send button beeing on the right hand corner. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:46, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: I have trouble when sending an iMessage because the edit field doesn't seem to be just right there, like it was in IOS6. The keyboard seems to be extra sensitive now. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:33 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Edit fields in IOS7 are flakey though. In the IOS6 (and before) days, touching an edit field, whilst editing was ongoing, would only read it not set the focus to wherever in the field one happened to touch. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 16:30, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Jane, This is weird. Dictation can be started by a two-finger double-tap, which is in fact one of my favorite new little features. I’ve never ad problems with a one-finger double tap. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Yes it is very accessible from a totally blind person's perspective. There is one conflict you need to be aware of. At least, I find it to be a problem. It's hard to double-tap on a field and type in text. Now, the microphone seems to think I want to ictate text. This an make searching for books and putting them into the right colection tricky. Jane On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally blind person. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really solve this one. Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it that they’ve done this fairly well. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a
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On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: I am running IOS 7.0.2 on an iPhone 4S and it is very accessible, but does have some annoying bugs. Half the time the two finger double tap to start and pause music doesn't work, and to get it to work again you have to shut the phone off, so this can be fairly annoying, Not for me. I can get it to work all the time. I have never in the 3 year I've owned a phone had that happen. I'd try reseting yoru phone to facttory settings and restorying as new to see if you can reproduce the issue. If you cannot something in the settings of yoru back up are corrupted. Tc. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
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This raises an interesting point. But it isn't always possible for people to go your route, owing to provider restrictions on low level access. You'd need to make sure that PHP 54 ohr later is functional before this will work. But the interesting part for me is the actual installation process of wordpress on your own server or provider's site if PHP is functional. How, for instance, do you create your database? Do you use MAMP or something similar?I would idally like to be able to install MAMP Pro so that we can host multieaple blogs but so far I haven't figured out how that works. íf somebody experienced with this kind of configuration would be able to work with me off list, it would be appreciated. In return, we would be happy to offer them some kind of service. - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Date sent: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:34:38 -0700 Subject: Re: Blogging on a Mac Actually I would not do wordpress.com I had to set up something with someone and I couldn't. You cannot upload files larger then I think it's 10 meg, you have to pay for storage. It's a lot cheaper on my opinion to go self hosted and host a wordpress site that you instllinstall yourself on your web provider. Many of my podcasts are over 10 mb in size, sometimes being 500 mb but that's rare. Hth. On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: WordPress.com is definitely the way to go. You don't download anything and you don't have to set up your own server. There's a document called learn WordPress or something like that on the support.WordPress.com site read that it'll help. Sent from my IPhone On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Is wordpress the best way to go for simplicity of blogging on a Mac? I've just looked at the Wordpress website. Do I just download the latest version, and then create an account? Is it accessible with VO? - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x ml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x ml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x ml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at:
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I get around the file size restriction by linking to files in my public dropbox account there's no limit there wordPress.com has an cost me a penny and I've got two blogs up and running and I'm able to link to audio files of any size. Sent from my IPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: This raises an interesting point. But it isn't always possible for people to go your route, owing to provider restrictions on low level access. You'd need to make sure that PHP 54 ohr later is functional before this will work. But the interesting part for me is the actual installation process of wordpress on your own server or provider's site if PHP is functional. How, for instance, do you create your database? Do you use MAMP or something similar?I would idally like to be able to install MAMP Pro so that we can host multieaple blogs but so far I haven't figured out how that works. íf somebody experienced with this kind of configuration would be able to work with me off list, it would be appreciated. In return, we would be happy to offer them some kind of service. - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Date sent: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:34:38 -0700 Subject: Re: Blogging on a Mac Actually I would not do wordpress.com I had to set up something with someone and I couldn't. You cannot upload files larger then I think it's 10 meg, you have to pay for storage. It's a lot cheaper on my opinion to go self hosted and host a wordpress site that you instllinstall yourself on your web provider. Many of my podcasts are over 10 mb in size, sometimes being 500 mb but that's rare. Hth. On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: WordPress.com is definitely the way to go. You don't download anything and you don't have to set up your own server. There's a document called learn WordPress or something like that on the support.WordPress.com site read that it'll help. Sent from my IPhone On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Is wordpress the best way to go for simplicity of blogging on a Mac? I've just looked at the Wordpress website. Do I just download the latest version, and then create an account? Is it accessible with VO? - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x ml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x ml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x ml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we
Re: Blogging on a Mac
I use 1 click instells. You can also follow the 5 monty install steps at wordpress.org I'm not home to give more detailed instructions than that, but good luck. On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:00, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: This raises an interesting point. But it isn't always possible for people to go your route, owing to provider restrictions on low level access. You'd need to make sure that PHP 54 ohr later is functional before this will work. But the interesting part for me is the actual installation process of wordpress on your own server or provider's site if PHP is functional. How, for instance, do you create your database? Do you use MAMP or something similar?I would idally like to be able to install MAMP Pro so that we can host multieaple blogs but so far I haven't figured out how that works. íf somebody experienced with this kind of configuration would be able to work with me off list, it would be appreciated. In return, we would be happy to offer them some kind of service. - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Date sent: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:34:38 -0700 Subject: Re: Blogging on a Mac Actually I would not do wordpress.com I had to set up something with someone and I couldn't. You cannot upload files larger then I think it's 10 meg, you have to pay for storage. It's a lot cheaper on my opinion to go self hosted and host a wordpress site that you instllinstall yourself on your web provider. Many of my podcasts are over 10 mb in size, sometimes being 500 mb but that's rare. Hth. On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: WordPress.com is definitely the way to go. You don't download anything and you don't have to set up your own server. There's a document called learn WordPress or something like that on the support.WordPress.com site read that it'll help. Sent from my IPhone On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Is wordpress the best way to go for simplicity of blogging on a Mac? I've just looked at the Wordpress website. Do I just download the latest version, and then create an account? Is it accessible with VO? - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x ml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x ml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x ml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan,
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
I think you're a little confused. The 5C does not go any higher than the 32 gig model, but the 5S goes all the way up to 64 gigs. I just wanted to clarify, as I can see where that may be confusing. Chris. - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do like the OS now since 7.0.2 it seems a lot more responsive to VO users though battery life as to be expected terrible even with motion control off On 3 Oct 2013, at 21:01, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I think you're a little confused. The 5C does not go any higher than the 32 gig model, but the 5S goes all the way up to 64 gigs. I just wanted to clarify, as I can see where that may be confusing. Chris. - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to
Re: mouse clicking with VO
hey, thanks for that info. what is chrome vox? is it an extension for crome or another browser? thanks Michael On 03/10/2013, at 11:26 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: download and use chrome vox. I don't have a link to it but there i a list that discusses chrome accessibility. I can get that stuff to you later when I get back home from classes today if you want. Good luck. On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, good thinking there, i will test crome if a site is not working with the other one. thanks Michael On 03/10/2013, at 10:21 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - I've not use Chrome for that kind of thing. Perhaps like me you may have to use both browsers, determined by how a website functions with each. I guess you could keep Safari as your main one, especially if that's where your book marks are, and just use Chrome when you find things aren't going so well under Safari. Not perfect is it, but I guess we have to keep adapting - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 12:34, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, thanks for the reply to my question. i have played around with crome a tad and am wondering if there is a way to make it a bit more accessible? it's just little things like importing bookmarks and such. thanks for any help Michael On 03/10/2013, at 8:20 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - This may or may not help, but I have encountered this when using Safari, but had better success when using Google Chrome. I use Chrome most of the time as it does seem to work better - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 07:19, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having abit of trubbel with a website. there are bits of text on the pottermore site that can be clicked, the problem is that even if i hit VO cmd f5 to move the mouse pointer to the spot it never clicks what i want it to click on. i'm getting quite mad over this. any help getting to grips with this would be fantastic. thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something
Re: Blogging on a Mac
On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:25, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: There's a restriction on bandwith on dropbox so be aware of that. This is why I'm self hosted. Also, when I was helping someone with a word press.com website, they could not at the time turn off the visual editor. Hth. I get around the file size restriction by linking to files in my public dropbox account there's no limit there wordPress.com has an cost me a penny and I've got two blogs up and running and I'm able to link to audio files of any size. Sent from my IPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: This raises an interesting point. But it isn't always possible for people to go your route, owing to provider restrictions on low level access. You'd need to make sure that PHP 54 ohr later is functional before this will work. But the interesting part for me is the actual installation process of wordpress on your own server or provider's site if PHP is functional. How, for instance, do you create your database? Do you use MAMP or something similar?I would idally like to be able to install MAMP Pro so that we can host multieaple blogs but so far I haven't figured out how that works. íf somebody experienced with this kind of configuration would be able to work with me off list, it would be appreciated. In return, we would be happy to offer them some kind of service. - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Date sent: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:34:38 -0700 Subject: Re: Blogging on a Mac Actually I would not do wordpress.com I had to set up something with someone and I couldn't. You cannot upload files larger then I think it's 10 meg, you have to pay for storage. It's a lot cheaper on my opinion to go self hosted and host a wordpress site that you instllinstall yourself on your web provider. Many of my podcasts are over 10 mb in size, sometimes being 500 mb but that's rare. Hth. On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: WordPress.com is definitely the way to go. You don't download anything and you don't have to set up your own server. There's a document called learn WordPress or something like that on the support.WordPress.com site read that it'll help. Sent from my IPhone On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - Is wordpress the best way to go for simplicity of blogging on a Mac? I've just looked at the Wordpress website. Do I just download the latest version, and then create an account? Is it accessible with VO? - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x ml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x ml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
the pac mate braille display woes.
Hi all, When i connect the pac mate to the mac, it recognizes it right away. I am not understanding how the router buttons work. I've read Chapter 10 of the vo getting started guide till i'm blue in the face. Also I am use to the advance buttons in panning. But it appears that the right whiz wheels up or down permit right or left panning, and i don't understand this either. I'm frustrated as i want to use the display but this panning or advancing with right hand and then reading with life hand is quite awkward. I have the pac mate with the qwerty keyboard. Can i plug the entire unit to the mac? The book says though that it supports the braille display only. I'm thinking of giving up, but what happens one day if my implants quit and i need to use the computer in silence. The pac mate is USB. No Bluetooth. Also, in another instance, I have a dbc braille Note MPower that is listed as supported and i can't get it to pair with my mac. It is bluetooth. and finally another question, Can i pair my mPower with my iPhone? and if so, how does this work. I tried to pair it yesterday and i couldn't get it to work or maybe i am missing something. So can anyone here rescue me? LOL! Hugs and 73 Linda C. Knight With GDF Shirley CallSign: KK4HRG Please Note Email: l...@tampabay.rr.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Blogging on a Mac
The visual editor thing is no longer a problem, and as far as fdropbox bandwidth is concerned, I can view videos and audio files without any appreciable slowdowns. For my needs, being able to post articlesand embedd images, or external links to medial files in my dropbox account, it's working fine - especially for the price of $0.00 per eternity (or for a good long while anyway). --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: the pac mate braille display woes.
I had the same problems you are describing with the pack mate Braille display. I read over all the material and tried everything i could think of, and I still wasn't able to get it to work. On Oct 3, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Linda C Knight l...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hi all, When i connect the pac mate to the mac, it recognizes it right away. I am not understanding how the router buttons work. I've read Chapter 10 of the vo getting started guide till i'm blue in the face. Also I am use to the advance buttons in panning. But it appears that the right whiz wheels up or down permit right or left panning, and i don't understand this either. I'm frustrated as i want to use the display but this panning or advancing with right hand and then reading with life hand is quite awkward. I have the pac mate with the qwerty keyboard. Can i plug the entire unit to the mac? The book says though that it supports the braille display only. I'm thinking of giving up, but what happens one day if my implants quit and i need to use the computer in silence. The pac mate is USB. No Bluetooth. Also, in another instance, I have a dbc braille Note MPower that is listed as supported and i can't get it to pair with my mac. It is bluetooth. and finally another question, Can i pair my mPower with my iPhone? and if so, how does this work. I tried to pair it yesterday and i couldn't get it to work or maybe i am missing something. So can anyone here rescue me? LOL! Hugs and 73 Linda C. Knight With GDF Shirley CallSign: KK4HRG Please Note Email: l...@tampabay.rr.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Blogging on a Mac
Actually what I meant by bandwith limit is the free account is limited to a 20 gig sl a day and that's in *all* folders, except when you grab from shared folders. On the paid accoungt it's I think 100 gig a day. If tha'ts reatched, that is if 20 people watch yoru 1 gig video, you will be s spsuednded for 3 days, then the suspention will get longer. There is a wonderful faq on it on their site explaining these bandwith caps. On Oct 3, 2013, at 15:35, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: The visual editor thing is no longer a problem, and as far as fdropbox bandwidth is concerned, I can view videos and audio files without any appreciable slowdowns. For my needs, being able to post articlesand embedd images, or external links to medial files in my dropbox account, it's working fine - especially for the price of $0.00 per eternity (or for a good long while anyway). --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
I believe the graphics will adjust an dmove when your phone does. Might make one sea sick if they are prone to that. lol! Someone with sight can probably explain the feature better then I can. lol. On Oct 3, 2013, at 13:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: What do you mean by motion control? Can you please elaberate on that a bit? I'm very interested. chris. - Original Message - From: William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:14 PM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do like the OS now since 7.0.2 it seems a lot more responsive to VO users though battery life as to be expected terrible even with motion control off On 3 Oct 2013, at 21:01, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I think you're a little confused. The 5C does not go any higher than the 32 gig model, but the 5S goes all the way up to 64 gigs. I just wanted to clarify, as I can see where that may be confusing. Chris. - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
Yeah, I think you got that right. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I believe the graphics will adjust an dmove when your phone does. Might make one sea sick if they are prone to that. lol! Someone with sight can probably explain the feature better then I can. lol. On Oct 3, 2013, at 13:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: What do you mean by motion control? Can you please elaberate on that a bit? I'm very interested. chris. - Original Message - From: William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:14 PM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do like the OS now since 7.0.2 it seems a lot more responsive to VO users though battery life as to be expected terrible even with motion control off On 3 Oct 2013, at 21:01, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I think you're a little confused. The 5C does not go any higher than the 32 gig model, but the 5S goes all the way up to 64 gigs. I just wanted to clarify, as I can see where that may be confusing. Chris. - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in june. Tc. On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable. I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. Caitlyn On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect. I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that you noticed? I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual cameras would be nice, but not essential. I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a cordial and productive discussion. Warm regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail
Re: mouse clicking with VO
Chrome vox is a chrome extension that is a screen reading for the chrome browser and chrome OS. There is a list that discusses access to chrome in general and chrome vox. It's on google groups.Here is the info and link to the list page and more. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/axs-chrome-discuss Good luck. On Oct 3, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, thanks for that info. what is chrome vox? is it an extension for crome or another browser? thanks Michael On 03/10/2013, at 11:26 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: download and use chrome vox. I don't have a link to it but there i a list that discusses chrome accessibility. I can get that stuff to you later when I get back home from classes today if you want. Good luck. On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, good thinking there, i will test crome if a site is not working with the other one. thanks Michael On 03/10/2013, at 10:21 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - I've not use Chrome for that kind of thing. Perhaps like me you may have to use both browsers, determined by how a website functions with each. I guess you could keep Safari as your main one, especially if that's where your book marks are, and just use Chrome when you find things aren't going so well under Safari. Not perfect is it, but I guess we have to keep adapting - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 12:34, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, thanks for the reply to my question. i have played around with crome a tad and am wondering if there is a way to make it a bit more accessible? it's just little things like importing bookmarks and such. thanks for any help Michael On 03/10/2013, at 8:20 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - This may or may not help, but I have encountered this when using Safari, but had better success when using Google Chrome. I use Chrome most of the time as it does seem to work better - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 07:19, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having abit of trubbel with a website. there are bits of text on the pottermore site that can be clicked, the problem is that even if i hit VO cmd f5 to move the mouse pointer to the spot it never clicks what i want it to click on. i'm getting quite mad over this. any help getting to grips with this would be fantastic. thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe
Re: mouse clicking with VO
hey, had a play with crome vox and i must say it isn't to bad at all. should you turn off VO when using vox? because VO reads a lot more stuff such as menues. thanks Michael On 04/10/2013, at 1:02 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Chrome vox is a chrome extension that is a screen reading for the chrome browser and chrome OS. There is a list that discusses access to chrome in general and chrome vox. It's on google groups.Here is the info and link to the list page and more. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/axs-chrome-discuss Good luck. On Oct 3, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, thanks for that info. what is chrome vox? is it an extension for crome or another browser? thanks Michael On 03/10/2013, at 11:26 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: download and use chrome vox. I don't have a link to it but there i a list that discusses chrome accessibility. I can get that stuff to you later when I get back home from classes today if you want. Good luck. On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, good thinking there, i will test crome if a site is not working with the other one. thanks Michael On 03/10/2013, at 10:21 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - I've not use Chrome for that kind of thing. Perhaps like me you may have to use both browsers, determined by how a website functions with each. I guess you could keep Safari as your main one, especially if that's where your book marks are, and just use Chrome when you find things aren't going so well under Safari. Not perfect is it, but I guess we have to keep adapting - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 12:34, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey andy, thanks for the reply to my question. i have played around with crome a tad and am wondering if there is a way to make it a bit more accessible? it's just little things like importing bookmarks and such. thanks for any help Michael On 03/10/2013, at 8:20 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi Michael - This may or may not help, but I have encountered this when using Safari, but had better success when using Google Chrome. I use Chrome most of the time as it does seem to work better - Andy On 3 Oct 2013, at 07:19, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey listers, i'm having abit of trubbel with a website. there are bits of text on the pottermore site that can be clicked, the problem is that even if i hit VO cmd f5 to move the mouse pointer to the spot it never clicks what i want it to click on. i'm getting quite mad over this. any help getting to grips with this would be fantastic. thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive
hide/show mail activity in mac mail
Hi all, What does the hide/show mail activity in mac mail do? I toggle it and nothing seems to change. Is it a visual thing, or am I just missing something. Thanks, Don --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Changing Font in iText Express
Hello, I have downloaded iText Express on to MBA. When I open the preferences and go to the new button, I select the change button for the RTF. I interact with the table for the family font type and select Ariel, regular, and 12 pt. When I return to the edit field and press VO-T, Ariel bold is still selected. Is there is a step I am missing to get the type face to change from bold to regular? Please advise,as I would like to use this program instead of TextEdit. Thanks in advance. Best, Eileen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
