Re: odd behaviour in Mavericks terminal
HI Chris, Nope seems to be opening bash all right. Tis most odd. Dónal On 27 Oct 2013, at 02:43, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I wonder if it has something to do with it not opening bash, from /bin/bash but maybe is openning some other shell instead. Chris. Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter. http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:37 PM Subject: Re: odd behaviour in Mavericks terminal Hi, I noticed it as well. Not sure why, it seems strange, but also pretty obviously deliberate. Odd decision on Apple’s part. Best, Zack. On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: evening all, Here’s a strange one. Under previous versions of OSX, the terminal prompt on my mac looked like: DonalFitzpatricksMacbookPro:~dfitzpat$ which is all very normal. However something very strange is happening under Mavericks. If I run terminal, the prompt now looks like: donalfiricksmbp:~ In other words my name and the type of machine is abbreviated. There is an anomaly to this. If I run terminal, then do a restart, terminal opens up on system boot up. However, it opens up with the prompt: DonalFitzpatricksMacbookPro:~$ Anyone know why this should be the case? Cheers, Dónal dfitzpat$ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive:
sorted the chess but
Hi all I have actually got the chess to run but sadly I cannot get it to speak in english. also the program is not accessible at all. the comboe box that appears when setting up seems to only give german I hope I am doing the comboe box correct. please can some one tell me how best to delete this app then I will re install it. thanks. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts
Open the menu bar - control f2 open the dock - control f3 open the status menu (Lion) and extras menu (Mountain Lion or later) - control f8 These work even with VoiceOver off. -- E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: odd behaviour in Mavericks terminal
Hello, Owch, that don't look good. I don't know about how the OS X prompt is made up and what certain symbols mean. I suspect they would be Unix standard. I have just tried to run as root but I can't. On a Linux system the root user's prompt ends with a number sign. However, here on OS X, a user promt ends with ~$. So may be your other prompt is as the admin user. Anyway, such things are specified in either .bashrc .profile .bash_profile. Either in your home directory or global system wide in /etc. I assume you have the box ticked that indicates that you want your windows reopening on the next restart. Or does the system have a serious error that requires admin privileges? The system name used in the prompt is the names associated with each machine on the network and in ML are set via the sharing options in system prefs. HTH Gena Georgina Joyce Applied Psychologist Training and Coaching. Because individuals of groups matter! On 26 Oct 2013, at 23:31, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: evening all, Here’s a strange one. Under previous versions of OSX, the terminal prompt on my mac looked like: DonalFitzpatricksMacbookPro:~dfitzpat$ which is all very normal. However something very strange is happening under Mavericks. If I run terminal, the prompt now looks like: donalfiricksmbp:~ In other words my name and the type of machine is abbreviated. There is an anomaly to this. If I run terminal, then do a restart, terminal opens up on system boot up. However, it opens up with the prompt: DonalFitzpatricksMacbookPro:~$ Anyone know why this should be the case? Cheers, Dónal dfitzpat$ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: odd behaviour in Mavericks terminal
Hi, We’re overanalyzing this. :) The $ is just the same under Unix as under OS X. Just because you’re an admin user under OS X doesn’t mean you’re root. The problem has everything to do with the hostname,and nothing else. Best, Zack. On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote: Hello, Owch, that don't look good. I don't know about how the OS X prompt is made up and what certain symbols mean. I suspect they would be Unix standard. I have just tried to run as root but I can't. On a Linux system the root user's prompt ends with a number sign. However, here on OS X, a user promt ends with ~$. So may be your other prompt is as the admin user. Anyway, such things are specified in either .bashrc .profile .bash_profile. Either in your home directory or global system wide in /etc. I assume you have the box ticked that indicates that you want your windows reopening on the next restart. Or does the system have a serious error that requires admin privileges? The system name used in the prompt is the names associated with each machine on the network and in ML are set via the sharing options in system prefs. HTH Gena Georgina Joyce Applied Psychologist Training and Coaching. Because individuals of groups matter! On 26 Oct 2013, at 23:31, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: evening all, Here’s a strange one. Under previous versions of OSX, the terminal prompt on my mac looked like: DonalFitzpatricksMacbookPro:~dfitzpat$ which is all very normal. However something very strange is happening under Mavericks. If I run terminal, the prompt now looks like: donalfiricksmbp:~ In other words my name and the type of machine is abbreviated. There is an anomaly to this. If I run terminal, then do a restart, terminal opens up on system boot up. However, it opens up with the prompt: DonalFitzpatricksMacbookPro:~$ Anyone know why this should be the case? Cheers, Dónal dfitzpat$ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: odd behaviour in Mavericks terminal
Hi Zac and Gina, Thanks both for your mails. I’m taking the liberty of responding to both in one message. The prompt is made up of the standard Unix characters such as \h for hostname etc. You can see what the prompt is by echoing $PS1. I think Zac is correct here as on the Mavericks partition the hostname (as reported by Hostname) is different from the computer name found under sharing preferences. So something somewhere is changing it. I can confirm it’s not my router as I’ve turned off all connectivity and still see the same behaviour. I’ll continue to poke around. Cheers, Dónal On 27 Oct 2013, at 17:16, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi, We’re overanalyzing this. :) The $ is just the same under Unix as under OS X. Just because you’re an admin user under OS X doesn’t mean you’re root. The problem has everything to do with the hostname,and nothing else. Best, Zack. On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote: Hello, Owch, that don't look good. I don't know about how the OS X prompt is made up and what certain symbols mean. I suspect they would be Unix standard. I have just tried to run as root but I can't. On a Linux system the root user's prompt ends with a number sign. However, here on OS X, a user promt ends with ~$. So may be your other prompt is as the admin user. Anyway, such things are specified in either .bashrc .profile .bash_profile. Either in your home directory or global system wide in /etc. I assume you have the box ticked that indicates that you want your windows reopening on the next restart. Or does the system have a serious error that requires admin privileges? The system name used in the prompt is the names associated with each machine on the network and in ML are set via the sharing options in system prefs. HTH Gena Georgina Joyce Applied Psychologist Training and Coaching. Because individuals of groups matter! On 26 Oct 2013, at 23:31, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: evening all, Here’s a strange one. Under previous versions of OSX, the terminal prompt on my mac looked like: DonalFitzpatricksMacbookPro:~dfitzpat$ which is all very normal. However something very strange is happening under Mavericks. If I run terminal, the prompt now looks like: donalfiricksmbp:~ In other words my name and the type of machine is abbreviated. There is an anomaly to this. If I run terminal, then do a restart, terminal opens up on system boot up. However, it opens up with the prompt: DonalFitzpatricksMacbookPro:~$ Anyone know why this should be the case? Cheers, Dónal dfitzpat$ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or
downloading new voices on mac, voices sound weird
Hey guys. I've got OS 10.9 installed and that seems to be working well. I've downloaded some of the new voices for voiceover, Allison, Ava etc, but they sound weird. When I listen to the sound samples, and then listen to my computer, the voices sound way low and way different on my computer than they do in the sound samples. I've played with the pitch and all, suggestions anybody? Thanks, Laurel --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: an iMac question
Will be speaking to tech support with regard with my iMac question this week David and I will let you know what I learn. I have other questions for apple support. Hugs and 73 Linda C. Knight shirley CallSign: kk4hrg Please note email: l...@tampabay.rr.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Clear notifications very quickly in I O S?
No not that i know of. what I do is just double rapt he clear buttons and confirm it. I can clean out hundreds as I only have 5 notifications set for each thing so it only takes me about 4 minutes to do the whole thing. Tc. On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: I dono about you guys, but very often, I completely forget, or just become lazy, and don't clean out my notification area of I O S. For this reason, sometimes I have notifications literally speaking dating back a month or two. You can imagine how cluttered this gets. I mean, even with the new tab system for today, and missed, it still becomes a headache. I am a huge, and I do mean, huge! Twitter bird, as well as a Facebook fan, and I also use Foursquare. I probably have about 2500 or 3000 people that I follow on Twitter, and about 3/4 of those do indeed follow me back, same goes with Facebook. I probably have around a thousand friends, and probably about 7 to 800 friends on Foursquare, and those numbers are forever growing. I know those apps, I can just turn off so they don't come up in the notification area at all, but I really don't want to do that. I like knowing when things come through. Or like earlier tonight, I have an app which gives me national wide Amber alerts. Well, that thing hardly ever goes off, thank God in Heaven above, but when it does go off, like it did tonight, boy, it r'r'r'really! goes off! Imagine being in public and all a sudden hearing the Emergency Broadcast System siron go off, even if your phone not only is on vibrate, but even on silent. I think for the Amber alerts, it even goes off if the thing's in Do Not Disturb mode. So, yeah... scare the crap outta you, don't they! Anyway, point is: is there an app that I can use, key word here: with? out! and I repeat, with? out! jailbreaking, that would clear my notification area at certain intrevals? Say like, once every week, or once every day, etc? This way I don't have to worry about it? Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: sorted the chess but
Hi John, I don't actually expect the Shredder Chess Mac applications to be accessible with VoiceOver in their current forms, and I haven't tried to install them myself. I rather expect that they won't be accessible, since Shredder had chess programs on many different computer platforms before they came out with their iOS app, and that wasn't accessible at the start. However, I think that based on their experience with making their iOS app accessible, they might be able to rework their Mac apps, if there were sufficient demand. Apple provides a lot of information for developers on how to makes apps accessible on both the Mac and in iOS. Here's a good starting point link to point them to: https://developer.apple.com/technologies/mac/accessibility.html The other thing they can do is check the main Apple Developer Library Resources for the Mac at: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/navigation/ Activate the link for Guides, and then navigate to a link like • Accessibility Overview for OS X https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXIntro/OSXAXintro.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40001078 Some of these are really long URL links that may wrap in an email, which is why I also give the navigation instructions. As I said, I really don't expect the current versions of their Mac programs to be accessible, since they predate the iOS apps they brought out. If they knew about VoiceOver earlier, the iOS apps would have been accessible to start with. However, I think you have a good shot at getting them to make their Mac apps accessible with VoiceOver now, since they've had the experience of doing it for iOS, and have shown themselves to be responsive to these requests. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:14 AM, John Gallagher wrote: Hi all I have actually got the chess to run but sadly I cannot get it to speak in english. also the program is not accessible at all. the comboe box that appears when setting up seems to only give german I hope I am doing the comboe box correct. please can some one tell me how best to delete this app then I will re install it. thanks. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: sorted the chess but
hi there many many thanks for the message and yes it is food for thought. it was amazing last year in india in the chess olimpian how our computers helped us prepare for the tournament. the iphone app is truly great and it would be good for the mac to have the access as well. must do some looking in to leting know. thanks then. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: odd behaviour in Mavericks terminal
Hello Dónal Zac, Well I just picked up on the fact that there was a difference in the punctuation in the prompts. I knew that punctuation represents the level of user access on the system. So why should something as important as the hostname change automatically? Gena Georgina Joyce Applied Psychologist Training and Coaching. Because individuals of groups matter! On 27 Oct 2013, at 17:16, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi, We’re overanalyzing this. :) The $ is just the same under Unix as under OS X. Just because you’re an admin user under OS X doesn’t mean you’re root. The problem has everything to do with the hostname,and nothing else. Best, You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: odd behaviour in Mavericks terminal
Hello, Well, I haven't upgraded yet. I use the terminal a lot. So certainly won't upgrade until things like this are fixed. I would have thought that it is a potential serious security issue. Certainly, not something to be laid back about. So what is the behaviour? Is it using the terminal invokes a hostname change? Or is it another event? Thanks. Gena Georgina Joyce Applied Psychologist Training and Coaching. Because individuals of groups matter! On 26 Oct 2013, at 23:37, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi, I noticed it as well. Not sure why, it seems strange, but also pretty obviously deliberate. Odd decision on Apple’s part. Best, Zack. On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: evening all, Here’s a strange one. Under previous versions of OSX, the terminal prompt on my mac looked like: DonalFitzpatricksMacbookPro:~dfitzpat$ which is all very normal. However something very strange is happening under Mavericks. If I run terminal, the prompt now looks like: donalfiricksmbp:~ In other words my name and the type of machine is abbreviated. There is an anomaly to this. If I run terminal, then do a restart, terminal opens up on system boot up. However, it opens up with the prompt: DonalFitzpatricksMacbookPro:~$ Anyone know why this should be the case? Cheers, Dónal dfitzpat$ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list
Re: downloading new voices on mac, voices sound weird
Thanks, I did that and it fixed it. Now the only difference is that my voices sound a lot deeper when I'm typing, but that's all. :-) Laurel On Oct 27, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi, You might have to reboot the computer after downloading them. I remember having this problem a little while back, and as I recall a reboot solved it. Best, Zack. On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Laurel and Stockard laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys. I've got OS 10.9 installed and that seems to be working well. I've downloaded some of the new voices for voiceover, Allison, Ava etc, but they sound weird. When I listen to the sound samples, and then listen to my computer, the voices sound way low and way different on my computer than they do in the sound samples. I've played with the pitch and all, suggestions anybody? Thanks, Laurel --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
It's here, it's here! What is you ask? See inside
Sorry for the subject line. I’m just a bit slap happy, tired, and excited all at the same time, plus I have one of my migraine. lol! anyway I just released a mavericks podcast and you can find it at the second heading level 2, or follow the TOC at the top of the page, if the plugin works at http://tffppodcast.com/premium I already had one person purchase it and they have not emailed me with any problems. I had some broken links of files over 30 mb. this zip file totals 280 mb of review and how to, or you can just get the individual files which is the heading level 3 that is labeled as such. I decided to do it that way so people would not get confused as much.. Anyway if you have any feed back you can contact me via the contact page on the website http://tffppodcast.com/contact so I don’t cause any traffic on the list. Take care all and be blessed, and happy sunday. P.S: I put up a blog post at http://tffppodcast.com/listen below the 2 sticky posts labeled mavericks tips in case anyone wants to glance at it. Thanks all for your help and knowledge. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
