Re: ABBYY FineReader-Advice on Purchasing From The Website or App Store
Hi Mary, Thanks for your input. I am running Mountain Lion, so I can go either way. This program seems to be more robust then Prizmo 2. I attemted again last night to scan and have Prizmo 2 for the Mac read a simple 4 line document, only for Prizmo 2 to state that there wasn't any print on that side and to flip the paper over. It still may be the user, but I am pretty accurate in using several OCR apps with the phone, so I must be missing something with this one. I believe I will purchase ABBYY FineReader for the Mac. Thanks again. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eileen, If you are using lion, you want the version of fine reader from ABByy. Otherwise, I see no reason to buy from one source or the other. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello folks, Is there any advantage of purchasing ABBYY FineReader from the website over the app store? I'm just curious about this, since one can procure the app either way. Also, has anyone tried plugging the Pearl camera into the Mac computer to see if it is recognized? I guess I could experiment with it. Currently, the only scanner that the Mac Air recognizes is my Brother MFC all-in-one. I haven't had much luck with it and Prizmo 2. Thanks. Eileen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: ABBYY FineReader-Advice on Purchasing From The Website or App Store
I purchased FineReader Pro from the website because it was considerably cheaper than the Appstore, €65 instead of €89. Cheers, Anne On 11 Dec 2013, at 05:08, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eileen, If you are using lion, you want the version of fine reader from ABByy. Otherwise, I see no reason to buy from one source or the other. Mary --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
How do Apple make their voices?
Hi, Text to speech, or just general speech synthesis is a big topic. To find out more I think the wikipedia article is a good place: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_synthesis which describes the many approaches to generating speech. It will probably take several reads to understand most of what is there, and it's quite long (and comprehensive). I'm sure there will be other articles on the net too which you can google. Cheers, Chris --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
TeamViewer on the Mack.
Hi Folks: I have an interesting issue here: though I am able to connect to a Mack via TeamViewer and, in conjunction with a speakerphone, can control the Mack, I can only send VO key commands using a pc and not another Mack. I have verified this on several systems. Anhy thoughts? Thanks all over the place. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: ABBYY FineReader-Advice on Purchasing From The Website or App Store
Hi Anne, Eileen, and Others, I believe that using the ABBYY web site lets you purchase via an upgrade price ($80 vs. $100 for U.S. users) if you already have ABBYY FineReader Express. You can only get an upgrade price from the ABBYY web site, since the Mac App Store cannot handle different price rates or trials. (This was all in my original post for this thread). I don't think there is a price advantage to using the ABBYY Web site to buy the software if this is a new purchase. There are advantages and disadvantages to either option that you may want to weigh up. Sometimes, the Mac App Store versions will lack features that come in versions you purchase from a web site in order to comply with Apple's restrictions. For example, when people bought versions of DVDRemaster Pro (or 8) some time ago, if they purchased from the Mac App Store they had to go back to the web site to download the parts that let them record DRM-protected content, since the laws covering that vary internationally, that couldn't be included in the App Store. Or when the MoveAddict had a special app had a special setup that was easier for VoiceOver users to use, you had to get that from the web site, too, if you bought from the Mac App Store, since that was a non-standard option. (These are not programs you are likely to buy now, by the way.). On the other hand, it's easier to update purchases through the Mac App Store interface. As Mary stated, the main functional difference between the version currently sold through the ABBYY web site and the Mac App Store is that the web site version can run on Lion (Mac OS X 10.7) and above, while the Mac App Store version requires Mountain Lion or above. The usual reasons for checking developer's web sites for software are: 1) to find trial versions, 2) to find alternate pricing, such as special sales, educational discounts, or upgrade pricing that are not available at the Mac App Store, and 3) to find support for older versions of software, where you can downgrade from your current license, if you wish to run on an older operating system. That's not an option from the Mac App Store. And by the way, although ABBYY does have special store web sites for instructors and students, with discount pricing on their software, this doesn't include ABBYY FinreReader Pro yet -- just the Express version. I'm impressed that the labeling in Safari on an iPad under iOS 7 showed me these links, when they weren't available to VoiceOver running iOS 6. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 11, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: I purchased FineReader Pro from the website because it was considerably cheaper than the Appstore, €65 instead of €89. Cheers, Anne On 11 Dec 2013, at 05:08, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Eileen, If you are using lion, you want the version of fine reader from ABByy. Otherwise, I see no reason to buy from one source or the other. Mary --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Mountain Lion Safari; Pages have Stopped Interacting when opened.
I've done something I did not intend to do but am not sure what. When I go to an address in safari, I no longer hear the bleep sound followed by the reading of the opening web page even though I went in to the voiceover menu, selected the web row which happens to be Row 5 in the table and selected for it to read the page upon opening. Right now, I open a page and then need to move over to the html document, interact with that and it works. If one resets safari, the next attempt to open a page works with the page opening automatically but all subsequent opens require one to use the VO-arrows to find the html link and interact with it. I just upgraded to Mountain Lion 3 days ago and it was working fine so I know I killed something probably while attempting to adjust something else. Thanks. Martin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: can programs designed for lenox also be used on OS 10 Maverick
rant mode on I absolutely hate macports. I refuse to use anything in the macports library. I strongly recommend others avoid the macports applications as well. /rant off Now, a little background and explanation. Most of the macports apps I've seen would take a whole 30 minutes or so to port properly to the mac. But, because folks are too lazy to do a proper port, instead they throw in an environment that messes with your paths, environment shell settings, and library search paths, all to save themselves from going through the code os some programs and changing library call here, an include file there, and rewriting a line or two of c/c++ code to adhere to newer gcc compiler versions. All of which needs to be done anyway eventually if the program is going to continue running on newer systems as they upgrade themselves with newer releases of other unix like operating systems. The whole macports thing is a nice idea, but one of the poorest implementations I've ever seen of a software emulation layer (which it really isn't supposed to be, but it gets used as such anyway). I've taken programs (such as pine and lynx) that were in the macports library, and compiled osx native versions of the same programs with very little modifications, and there's no reason it couldn't be done by the maintainers of said packages if so desired. The problem is, they don't want to do it, and most folks don't know enough to do the job, so we wind up with a stop gap measure like macports, and for some unknown reason, it becomes the defacto distribution for all things mac in the terminal world (go figure). Sometimes, it's possible to take the same exact source code used by the macports version, and recompile the source in native osx, and it works w/o any changes at all. Admittedly, those occasions are few, but it just goes to show how needless the macports app library truly is. Now, with all that said, if you truly need the macports environment, then by all means, use it. But I won't be caught with it on my system, not after it truly hosed my system the last time I tried using it several years ago. I now ignore, avoid, and actively discourage all things macports. If you have the development tools installed, compiling your own versions of programs is generally as easy as: ./configure make make install Of course, this is after changing to the folder containing the source code of the program in question, and performing the final step as root, which is usually done via the sudo command, but still, you get the point. Now, I'm specifically talking about pure terminal apps here, not XWindows apps, or those using quartz, or quicktime libs for graphical output. Those have their own set of difficulties, and I don't generally bother with such apps, so their nonfunctionality doesn't affect me. :) But, to make a long rant short, if you wish to try an opensource app, simply download the source, and have a whack at compiling it in terminal. Most of the time it'll work without any changes, but if changes are necessary, they're generally simple ones that an experienced unix coder can make in a relatively short period of time. If you're not an experienced unix coder, it will take you longer, but it can still be done with enough perseverance. It's not complicated or difficult, merely time consuming looking up the library versions, and tracking include files. Of course, sometimes, it's a *lot* more complicated than that, but if that's the case, then it won't make much difference if you're compiling for macports or in native mode, since either one is equally likely not to work. :) Anyway, that's my soapbox speech for the week, hope it helps someone. And, if not, then at least forewarned is forearmed. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Safari; Pages have Stopped Interacting when opened.
this is a known bug in safari . there is a podcast detailing the problem on applevis.com a search on that website for safari will probably bring it up. On Dec 11, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Martin G. McCormick mar...@server1.shellworld.net wrote: I've done something I did not intend to do but am not sure what. When I go to an address in safari, I no longer hear the bleep sound followed by the reading of the opening web page even though I went in to the voiceover menu, selected the web row which happens to be Row 5 in the table and selected for it to read the page upon opening. Right now, I open a page and then need to move over to the html document, interact with that and it works. If one resets safari, the next attempt to open a page works with the page opening automatically but all subsequent opens require one to use the VO-arrows to find the html link and interact with it. I just upgraded to Mountain Lion 3 days ago and it was working fine so I know I killed something probably while attempting to adjust something else. Thanks. Martin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Safari; Pages have Stopped Interacting when opened.
Hi Martin, I will second Phil’s message. I’ve been experiencing this behavior since ML and it continues in the latest version of Mavericks. If you have time, please send a note detailing your experience of the issue to accessibil...@apple.com HTH, Bryan On Dec 11, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: this is a known bug in safari . there is a podcast detailing the problem on applevis.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Safari; Pages have Stopped Interacting when opened.
I'll just say that this is a weird one, I haven't experienced it here myself. I'm able to open webpages pretty seamlessly. All the best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hi Martin, I will second Phil’s message. I’ve been experiencing this behavior since ML and it continues in the latest version of Mavericks. If you have time, please send a note detailing your experience of the issue to accessibil...@apple.com HTH, Bryan On Dec 11, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: this is a known bug in safari . there is a podcast detailing the problem on applevis.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: can programs designed for lenox also be used on OS 10 Maverick
TeamTalk is a perfect example of this, it will not work on Mac, but will work perfectly on the Darkside. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote: rant mode on I absolutely hate macports. I refuse to use anything in the macports library. I strongly recommend others avoid the macports applications as well. /rant off Now, a little background and explanation. Most of the macports apps I've seen would take a whole 30 minutes or so to port properly to the mac. But, because folks are too lazy to do a proper port, instead they throw in an environment that messes with your paths, environment shell settings, and library search paths, all to save themselves from going through the code os some programs and changing library call here, an include file there, and rewriting a line or two of c/c++ code to adhere to newer gcc compiler versions. All of which needs to be done anyway eventually if the program is going to continue running on newer systems as they upgrade themselves with newer releases of other unix like operating systems. The whole macports thing is a nice idea, but one of the poorest implementations I've ever seen of a software emulation layer (which it really isn't supposed to be, but it gets used as such anyway). I've taken programs (such as pine and lynx) that were in the macports library, and compiled osx native versions of the same programs with very little modifications, and there's no reason it couldn't be done by the maintainers of said packages if so desired. The problem is, they don't want to do it, and most folks don't know enough to do the job, so we wind up with a stop gap measure like macports, and for some unknown reason, it becomes the defacto distribution for all things mac in the terminal world (go figure). Sometimes, it's possible to take the same exact source code used by the macports version, and recompile the source in native osx, and it works w/o any changes at all. Admittedly, those occasions are few, but it just goes to show how needless the macports app library truly is. Now, with all that said, if you truly need the macports environment, then by all means, use it. But I won't be caught with it on my system, not after it truly hosed my system the last time I tried using it several years ago. I now ignore, avoid, and actively discourage all things macports. If you have the development tools installed, compiling your own versions of programs is generally as easy as: ./configure make make install Of course, this is after changing to the folder containing the source code of the program in question, and performing the final step as root, which is usually done via the sudo command, but still, you get the point. Now, I'm specifically talking about pure terminal apps here, not XWindows apps, or those using quartz, or quicktime libs for graphical output. Those have their own set of difficulties, and I don't generally bother with such apps, so their nonfunctionality doesn't affect me. :) But, to make a long rant short, if you wish to try an opensource app, simply download the source, and have a whack at compiling it in terminal. Most of the time it'll work without any changes, but if changes are necessary, they're generally simple ones that an experienced unix coder can make in a relatively short period of time. If you're not an experienced unix coder, it will take you longer, but it can still be done with enough perseverance. It's not complicated or difficult, merely time consuming looking up the library versions, and tracking include files. Of course, sometimes, it's a *lot* more complicated than that, but if that's the case, then it won't make much difference if you're compiling for macports or in native mode, since either one is equally likely not to work. :) Anyway, that's my soapbox speech for the week, hope it helps someone. And, if not, then at least forewarned is forearmed. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: Mountain Lion Safari; Pages have Stopped Interacting when opened.
Thank you. One wonders is anybody testing anything any more these days? It's not just Apple but it seems to be what the world of IT has come to these days. It took me all of 5 minutes this morning to realize that something isn't right as I wasted a whole day trying to fix it, thinking I had turned off something. Phil Halton writes: this is a known bug in safari . there is a podcast detailing the problem on applevis.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Safari; Pages have Stopped Interacting when opened.
Hey, I get this issue from time to time where I load a page and VO doesn't automatically interact with the page. Toggle VO off and back on with command F5 and most of the time this will fix the automatic interact issue. Hope this works it does for me. On Dec 11, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Martin G. McCormick mar...@server1.shellworld.net wrote: Thank you. One wonders is anybody testing anything any more these days? It's not just Apple but it seems to be what the world of IT has come to these days. It took me all of 5 minutes this morning to realize that something isn't right as I wasted a whole day trying to fix it, thinking I had turned off something. Phil Halton writes: this is a known bug in safari . there is a podcast detailing the problem on applevis.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Safari; Pages have Stopped Interacting when opened.
Yep, it’s sporadic for me. Toggling VO or sometimes performing a simple page refresh Command+R sets things right, sometimes not. My favorite weather site often fails to automatically interact on initial load but CMD+R usually resolves it. Or I just take the extra few steps to manually interact. http://braille.wunderground.com/auto/braille/NY/North_Pole.html On Dec 11, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: I get this issue from time to time where I load a page and VO doesn't automatically interact with the page. Toggle VO off and back on with command F5 and most of the time this will fix the automatic interact issue. Hope this works it does for me. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Removing Mac specific files from a USB memory stick
Hello, I recall recently reading on this forum information about a Mac OS App which deleted all those Mac OS specific files which Mac OS creates when you use it to write data to a USB memory stick. If you then plug this memory stick into a Windows computer you see several folders / files whose names begin with a period. This is very confusing to Windows users so I would like an easy way to get rid of these files. Can someone please remind me what App does this clean up and where I can get it. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: can programs designed for lenox also be used on OS 10 Maverick
Hello, An interesting point of view. I agree I enjoyed playing with linux from scratch. It can be fun building yourself. However, with respect. LFS do the donkey work for you. As does Mac Poorts in respect of dependencies. Sometimes you have to plough through miles of documentation. When you start with a new installed system how do you know what libraries etc you need to grab and build? Just to build one little utility. Macports works for me, I’ve had my time troubleshooting a failed build on Linux, I don’t want it on my Mac. Different courses for different horses. Thanks. Gena You wrote: Now, a little background and explanation. Most of the macports apps I've seen would take a whole 30 minutes or so to port properly to the mac. But, because folks are too lazy to do a proper port, instead they throw in an environment that messes with your paths, environment shell settings, and library search paths, all to save themselves from going through the code os some programs and changing library call here, an include file there, and rewriting a line or two of c/c++ code to adhere to newer gcc compiler versions. All of which needs to be done anyway eventually if the program is going to continue running on newer systems as they upgrade themselves with newer releases of other unix like operating systems. The whole macports thing is a nice idea, but one of the poorest implementations I've ever seen of a software emulation layer (which it really isn't supposed to be, but it gets used as such anyway). I've taken programs (such as pine and lynx) that were in the macports library, and compiled osx native versions of the same programs with very little modifications, and there's no reason it couldn't be done by the maintainers of said packages if so desired. The problem is, they don't want to do it, and most folks don't know enough to do the job, so we wind up with a stop gap measure like macports, and for some unknown reason, it becomes the defacto distribution for all things mac in the terminal world (go figure). Sometimes, it's possible to take the same exact source code used by the macports version, and recompile the source in native osx, and it works w/o any changes at all. Admittedly, those occasions are few, but it just goes to show how needless the macports app library truly is. Now, with all that said, if you truly need the macports environment, then by all means, use it. But I won't be caught with it on my system, not after it truly hosed my system the last time I tried using it several years ago. I now ignore, avoid, and actively discourage all things macports. If you have the development tools installed, compiling your own versions of programs is generally as easy as: ./configure make make install Of course, this is after changing to the folder containing the source code of the program in question, and performing the final step as root, which is usually done via the sudo command, but still, you get the point. Now, I'm specifically talking about pure terminal apps here, not XWindows apps, or those using quartz, or quicktime libs for graphical output. Those have their own set of difficulties, and I don't generally bother with such apps, so their nonfunctionality doesn't affect me. :) But, to make a long rant short, if you wish to try an opensource app, simply download the source, and have a whack at compiling it in terminal. Most of the time it'll work without any changes, but if changes are necessary, they're generally simple ones that an experienced unix coder can make in a relatively short period of time. If you're not an experienced unix coder, it will take you longer, but it can still be done with enough perseverance. It's not complicated or difficult, merely time consuming looking up the library versions, and tracking include files. Of course, sometimes, it's a *lot* more complicated than that, but if that's the case, then it won't make much difference if you're compiling for macports or in native mode, since either one is equally likely not to work. :) Anyway, that's my soapbox speech for the week, hope it helps someone. And, if not, then at least forewarned is forearmed. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own
Re: Removing Mac specific files from a USB memory stick
Hello Paul, I never got around to finishing my draft post explaining about Apple Double Format files, which is one of the classes of Mac-specific files you refer to, when this was discussed on list a while ago. The others are directory files (.DS_store, and files for Time Machine indexing and trash). There is a commercial service that sells an app named BlueHarvest for cleaning up these kinds of files. A single user license is $14.95 for 3 machines. The product web site (including the ability to get a 30-day free trial download of the program) is: http://zeroonetwenty.com/blueharvest/ You need to be running Lion or later. There's also a command-line tool named dot_clean (without the quotation marks) that you can run from Terminal to get rid of file with names that start with ._ (without the quotation marks). The GUI interface and options of BlueHarvest are probably easier to use and more comprehensive. Here's the dot_clean man page linked from the Apple Developer's site, although you can also use the man command I Terminal on your Mac to display the information: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/dot_clean.1.html HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, I recall recently reading on this forum information about a Mac OS App which deleted all those Mac OS specific files which Mac OS creates when you use it to write data to a USB memory stick. If you then plug this memory stick into a Windows computer you see several folders / files whose names begin with a period. This is very confusing to Windows users so I would like an easy way to get rid of these files. Can someone please remind me what App does this clean up and where I can get it. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Idatabase
Hi there! I seem to recall you mentioning the App iDatabase and was wondering how you got on with it? I bought the App ages ago and was using it on my iPad but now I've installed it on my iPhone. I found databases easy enough to create from scratch, I could add fields and so on but again I haven't had a chance to do anything beyond the very basic at this time, I need to construct something very specific at some stage so I'll take another look. When finished adding all your fields or records just look for the Done button and double-tap that to save. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Idatabase
Hello Dane, No, it was of the Mac OS X version I was enquiring. I wonder if they are interchangeable via iCloud. That might be worth investigating. Thanks. Gena On 11 Dec 2013, at 23:37, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi there! I seem to recall you mentioning the App iDatabase and was wondering how you got on with it? I bought the App ages ago and was using it on my iPad but now I've installed it on my iPhone. I found databases easy enough to create from scratch, I could add fields and so on but again I haven't had a chance to do anything beyond the very basic at this time, I need to construct something very specific at some stage so I'll take another look. When finished adding all your fields or records just look for the Done button and double-tap that to save. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Idatabase
Both versions can be synced I believe. On 12 Dec 2013, at 10:53 am, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote: Hello Dane, No, it was of the Mac OS X version I was enquiring. I wonder if they are interchangeable via iCloud. That might be worth investigating. Thanks. Gena On 11 Dec 2013, at 23:37, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi there! I seem to recall you mentioning the App iDatabase and was wondering how you got on with it? I bought the App ages ago and was using it on my iPad but now I've installed it on my iPhone. I found databases easy enough to create from scratch, I could add fields and so on but again I haven't had a chance to do anything beyond the very basic at this time, I need to construct something very specific at some stage so I'll take another look. When finished adding all your fields or records just look for the Done button and double-tap that to save. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Idatabase
Okay, Google Is My Friend, found a page that should answer all your questions regarding the syncing of data between IOS and Mac versions of the iDatabase App. http://www.apimac.com/iphone/idatabase/ On 12 Dec 2013, at 10:53 am, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote: Hello Dane, No, it was of the Mac OS X version I was enquiring. I wonder if they are interchangeable via iCloud. That might be worth investigating. Thanks. Gena On 11 Dec 2013, at 23:37, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi there! I seem to recall you mentioning the App iDatabase and was wondering how you got on with it? I bought the App ages ago and was using it on my iPad but now I've installed it on my iPhone. I found databases easy enough to create from scratch, I could add fields and so on but again I haven't had a chance to do anything beyond the very basic at this time, I need to construct something very specific at some stage so I'll take another look. When finished adding all your fields or records just look for the Done button and double-tap that to save. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Idatabase
Okay, I'm now running the Mac OSX version of iDatabase and I have to admit to very much liking the Interface of the software though some of the buttons etc did require me to use the Label feature of Voiceover but no big deal there. I had no trouble creating a database but I am a little bemused as I can't find the Add Field button, I can see where you specify the font and colour for fields, labels and so on. I'll have another play later on though I'm not too concerned, I know I can add fields easily to a database structure with the IOS version of the iDatabase app so - if that's what I have to use to design my database - then all well and good, just a matter of syncing the data to the Mac which can be done within the iDatabase App on both IOS and Mac. On 12 Dec 2013, at 10:53 am, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote: Hello Dane, No, it was of the Mac OS X version I was enquiring. I wonder if they are interchangeable via iCloud. That might be worth investigating. Thanks. Gena On 11 Dec 2013, at 23:37, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi there! I seem to recall you mentioning the App iDatabase and was wondering how you got on with it? I bought the App ages ago and was using it on my iPad but now I've installed it on my iPhone. I found databases easy enough to create from scratch, I could add fields and so on but again I haven't had a chance to do anything beyond the very basic at this time, I need to construct something very specific at some stage so I'll take another look. When finished adding all your fields or records just look for the Done button and double-tap that to save. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: Mountain Lion Safari; Pages have Stopped Interacting when opened.
Phil Halton writes: this is a known bug in safari . there is a podcast detailing the problem on applevis.com a search on that website for safari will probably bring it up. It sure did. The podcast link now gives a 404 not found error, but there is a long discussion about this very problem and, of course, Apple says it is fixed in Mavericks. The discussion on applevis started in July or August and Apple argued that there was no problem until rather recently when someone in the accessibility group was able to duplicate it. To do that, you must turn the computer on, use voiceover and go to two average web sites. On the second one, you say, HMM. That's weird. It didn't give any audible feedback that the page loaded. If you leave the computer on, every site you visit after that misbehaves the same way. Nobody expects something as complex as a modern operating system to behave perfectly, but this bug should not have ever gotten out the door. Martin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
using iBook on IOS
Hi, So far, I'm not having much fun reading a PDF eBook with the iBook app. I did put the voice rate into the rotor, and slowed it down for reading. But I swipe until I get to page selector, and it keeps putting me on a page around the middle of the book. I did a two-finger flick up, and it started reading after I just got back to page one, and when the screen orientation switched from portrait, it quit reading, so I go down to the page selector at the bottom of the screen, and it has me in the middle of the book again. THERE'S GOT TO BE AN EASIER WAY! If it wasn't a book well over 400 pages, I'd attempt it on a Braille display, but I'm not a fast enough Braille reader. I'm hoping I'm just missing a command, or there is a better app for this. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: using iBook on IOS
Hi Glenn, I'll start with your last comment first (the part about where you're hoping there is a better app than iBooks for reading PDFs). My preferred app for reading PDFs is Voice Dream Reader. But that's because I like the options for keeping track of my reading position, voice selection (and language), and preferred speech rate remembered and customized for each book or document. And I also like the Neospeech voice options, and I personally found it very annoying that VoiceOver wouldn't read accented letters correctly when reading PDFs in iBooks (although these were OK in ePub versions) if I were reading in languages other than English which also used accented characters (e.g., French). However, many people who only read in English won't care about that last point. Apart from that, all eBook reading apps are going to be better at navigation and control of content if you are using ePub format rather than PDF, but there are certainly some steps you can take to make things easier for yourself. iBooks can display books in either portrait or landscape orientation. For any apps that can use either orientation, I prefer to lock my screen orientation. If you are using iOS 7, bring up Control Center and there should be a lock orientation button you can double tap. Do you know whether your PDF contains embedded links for its Table of Contents? If so, there may be an alternate way to navigate through the book, although this is not standard practice with VoiceOver. You can also use the search function to position yourslef in a section of the book, although that will only take you to the page that the searched phrase is on -- not the specific location on the page. Try locking your orientation. If I use the page chooser, I'll touch the screen in the center and then do a two finger flick to start reading from the start of the page. And you can always try VoiceDream Reader if you really can't get along in iBooks. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Glenn wrote: Hi, So far, I'm not having much fun reading a PDF eBook with the iBook app. I did put the voice rate into the rotor, and slowed it down for reading. But I swipe until I get to page selector, and it keeps putting me on a page around the middle of the book. I did a two-finger flick up, and it started reading after I just got back to page one, and when the screen orientation switched from portrait, it quit reading, so I go down to the page selector at the bottom of the screen, and it has me in the middle of the book again. THERE'S GOT TO BE AN EASIER WAY! If it wasn't a book well over 400 pages, I'd attempt it on a Braille display, but I'm not a fast enough Braille reader. I'm hoping I'm just missing a command, or there is a better app for this. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: using iBook on IOS
Hi Esther, Thanks, yes, there is a table of contents, I figured that it was just for reading through, I didn't know I could navigate from there. I will try your other suggestions too. Thanks again. Glenn - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac-access.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: Re: using iBook on IOS Hi Glenn, I'll start with your last comment first (the part about where you're hoping there is a better app than iBooks for reading PDFs). My preferred app for reading PDFs is Voice Dream Reader. But that's because I like the options for keeping track of my reading position, voice selection (and language), and preferred speech rate remembered and customized for each book or document. And I also like the Neospeech voice options, and I personally found it very annoying that VoiceOver wouldn't read accented letters correctly when reading PDFs in iBooks (although these were OK in ePub versions) if I were reading in languages other than English which also used accented characters (e.g., French). However, many people who only read in English won't care about that last point. Apart from that, all eBook reading apps are going to be better at navigation and control of content if you are using ePub format rather than PDF, but there are certainly some steps you can take to make things easier for yourself. iBooks can display books in either portrait or landscape orientation. For any apps that can use either orientation, I prefer to lock my screen orientation. If you are using iOS 7, bring up Control Center and there should be a lock orientation button you can double tap. Do you know whether your PDF contains embedded links for its Table of Contents? If so, there may be an alternate way to navigate through the book, although this is not standard practice with VoiceOver. You can also use the search function to position yourslef in a section of the book, although that will only take you to the page that the searched phrase is on -- not the specific location on the page. Try locking your orientation. If I use the page chooser, I'll touch the screen in the center and then do a two finger flick to start reading from the start of the page. And you can always try VoiceDream Reader if you really can't get along in iBooks. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Glenn wrote: Hi, So far, I'm not having much fun reading a PDF eBook with the iBook app. I did put the voice rate into the rotor, and slowed it down for reading. But I swipe until I get to page selector, and it keeps putting me on a page around the middle of the book. I did a two-finger flick up, and it started reading after I just got back to page one, and when the screen orientation switched from portrait, it quit reading, so I go down to the page selector at the bottom of the screen, and it has me in the middle of the book again. THERE'S GOT TO BE AN EASIER WAY! If it wasn't a book well over 400 pages, I'd attempt it on a Braille display, but I'm not a fast enough Braille reader. I'm hoping I'm just missing a command, or there is a better app for this. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor
Re: a question about cleaner
Not to my knowledge but you can find at http://macupdate.com if it is there a nice little utility called CCleaner. It used to be accessible when I used it about 3 or so months ago and it might still be. Hope that helps a bit. I'm under the weather so am a bit slow at responding, but hopefully someone on this list will be able to help if I goofed. On Dec 11, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Linda C. Knight l...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hi all, Does mac have a cleanup utility (you know, a utility you can run to clean the hard drive-like windows pcs? Just curious. If so, what is it. Thank you! Hugs and 73 Linda C. Knight shirley CallSign: kk4hrg Please note email: l...@tampabay.rr.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Kindle
I can help with this question but it will be an off-list exercise. Cheers Paula -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2013 5:14 PM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Kindle The mac software is not accessible by any means. I don't know if there is any other way to read the kindle stuff on mac or not besides the kindol software as it is DRM protected. Take care. On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi! Just downloaded the Kindle App for iPhone and am reading my first book purchased from the Amazon Kindle Store in Australia. Is the Kindle software for the Mac accessible or are there other ways to read Kindle material on a Mac. Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: using iBook on IOS
Hi Glenn, Formatting of PDF eBooks can vary a lot. However, if there is a table of contents, you may be able to use it to navigate. Once you have selected your book in your iBooks library and opened it, flick through the page controls that are at the top of the screen. Next to the Library button in the top left corner, you may flick right to a Table of Contents button. If there is a Table of Contents button, try double tapping it. After you double tap it, you may have to flick further right through the top page controls and find button options for grid view', list view, and bookmarks view. You'll want to select list view by double tapping that button. If there is no list view, which will be the case if a table of,contents that you can use to navigate the book wasn't created (for example, if you opened a PDF document that was just a letter or short report and stored it in your iBooks library), then flick left back to the resume button that will now be the button to the right of Library and double tap. If there is a table of contents that you can use for navigation, once you are in list view display mode, you should be able to flick right from the top set of page control buttons to the active page area. You can also run your finger vertically down through the contents instead of flicking. When you get to a chapter item that you want to read, double tap, and you may be automatically taken to that chapter and start your reading. At a later time, if you need to go back to the table of contents to jump to a different section of the book, double tap the Table of Contents button that is just to the right of the Library button in the top left corner. You should still have list view configured if you have not exited the book and moved back to your library. In some PDF books there are embedded links in the text. The text may say something like we discuss this topic in chapter 4.3 or on page 54, and the actual reference to chapter or page will contain links that will, if double tapped, jump you to that page or chapter section. This is not usually the case, but it is may be a feature of some eBooks. You can also use the page chooser at the bottom of the screen, but it is likely that you'll have an easier time using the table of contents. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 11, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Glenn wrote: Hi Esther, Thanks, yes, there is a table of contents, I figured that it was just for reading through, I didn't know I could navigate from there. I will try your other suggestions too. Thanks again. Glenn - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac-access.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: Re: using iBook on IOS Hi Glenn, I'll start with your last comment first (the part about where you're hoping there is a better app than iBooks for reading PDFs). My preferred app for reading PDFs is Voice Dream Reader. But that's because I like the options for keeping track of my reading position, voice selection (and language), and preferred speech rate remembered and customized for each book or document. And I also like the Neospeech voice options, and I personally found it very annoying that VoiceOver wouldn't read accented letters correctly when reading PDFs in iBooks (although these were OK in ePub versions) if I were reading in languages other than English which also used accented characters (e.g., French). However, many people who only read in English won't care about that last point. Apart from that, all eBook reading apps are going to be better at navigation and control of content if you are using ePub format rather than PDF, but there are certainly some steps you can take to make things easier for yourself. iBooks can display books in either portrait or landscape orientation. For any apps that can use either orientation, I prefer to lock my screen orientation. If you are using iOS 7, bring up Control Center and there should be a lock orientation button you can double tap. Do you know whether your PDF contains embedded links for its Table of Contents? If so, there may be an alternate way to navigate through the book, although this is not standard practice with VoiceOver. You can also use the search function to position yourslef in a section of the book, although that will only take you to the page that the searched phrase is on -- not the specific location on the page. Try locking your orientation. If I use the page chooser, I'll touch the screen in the center and then do a two finger flick to start reading from the start of the page. And you can always try VoiceDream Reader if you really can't get along in iBooks. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Glenn wrote: Hi, So far, I'm not having much fun reading a PDF eBook with the iBook app. I did put the voice rate into the rotor, and
