Lost "Mail Rules"

[Tom Jones]

Some of my 66 mail "rules" have apparently disappeared, causing some of my 
busier list traffic to appear in my inbox.  It seems I'm left with the first 29 
rules I have created.  Has anyone had this experience, and if so, was there a 
resolution without loss of messages?  I have time machine backups at my 
disposal, but don't know if that would be a useful strategy.
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Re: Adium as of today

[Sarah k Alawami]

Don't worry about it.  I'm hoping others on my twitter feed will also check it 
out as that's also where it went.

Take care to all.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Christopher Gilland  
wrote:

> Sarah,
> 
> I will get to this is soon as I am able to listen to it. I am currently 
> writing this using my Motorola X cell phone, which is using android. For some 
> reason, it is not allowing me to play the audio boo.
> 
> I forwarded this email over to my computer, and as soon as I get a chance to 
> get in there, I will play it.  Take care
> 
> Chris.
> 
> Sent from my Moto X using Aqua Mail Pro
> 
> 
> 
> On March 16, 2014 10:16:45 PM Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Oh trust me they are quite broken, have been for the past 3 months worth of 
>> nightly builds. I have not done a complete reset of the app  to see if that 
>> would clear it, but here you go.
>> 
>> http://audioboo.fm/boos/1996585
>> 
>> I hope this can get looked at.
>> 
>> Take care to all and enjoy.
>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Christopher gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > What are you having issues with within the prefs?  They read perfectly 
>> > fine here last I looked, but then again, I'm not on the nightly build.
>> > Chris.
>> > - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>> > To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:19 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Adium as of today
>> >
>> >> it works, how ever the prefs don't read well at all. I'm using the 
>> >> nightly build btw. but yeah it works even  better then before.
>> >> Take care.
>> >> On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Chris Apple boy  
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but 
>> >> >>> didn't like the system voice announcing when someone is connected 
>> >> >>> then online. If they're connected then to me they're online or in 
>> >> >>> some other status other than offline so don't need to know whether 
>> >> >>> they're connected as well as their actual status. As a result I gave 
>> >> >>> up on it. Any comments greatly appreciated.
>> >>> -- Regards Chris
>> >>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
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Re: Adium as of today

[Christopher Gilland]

Sarah,

I will get to this is soon as I am able to listen to it. I am currently 
writing this using my Motorola X cell phone, which is using android. For 
some reason, it is not allowing me to play the audio boo.


I forwarded this email over to my computer, and as soon as I get a chance 
to get in there, I will play it.  Take care


Chris.

Sent from my Moto X using Aqua Mail Pro



On March 16, 2014 10:16:45 PM Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Oh trust me they are quite broken, have been for the past 3 months worth of 
nightly builds. I have not done a complete reset of the app  to see if that 
would clear it, but here you go.


http://audioboo.fm/boos/1996585

I hope this can get looked at.

Take care to all and enjoy.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Christopher gilland  
wrote:


> What are you having issues with within the prefs?  They read perfectly 
fine here last I looked, but then again, I'm not on the nightly build.

> Chris.
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Adium as of today
>
>> it works, how ever the prefs don't read well at all. I'm using the 
nightly build btw. but yeah it works even  better then before.

>> Take care.
>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Chris Apple boy  
wrote:
>> >>> How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but 
didn't like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then 
online. If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other 
status other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected 
as well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments 
greatly appreciated.

>>> -- Regards Chris
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Re: Adium as of today

[Sarah k Alawami]

Oh trust me they are quite broken, have been for the past 3 months worth of 
nightly builds. I have not done a complete reset of the app  to see if that 
would clear it, but here you go.

http://audioboo.fm/boos/1996585

I hope this can get looked at.

Take care to all and enjoy.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Christopher gilland  
wrote:

> What are you having issues with within the prefs?  They read perfectly fine 
> here last I looked, but then again, I'm not on the nightly build.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Adium as of today
> 
> 
>> it works, how ever the prefs don't read well at all. I'm using the nightly 
>> build btw. but yeah it works even  better then before.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Chris Apple boy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't like 
>>> the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online. If 
>>> they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status other 
>>> than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as well as 
>>> their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments greatly 
>>> appreciated.
>>> -- 
>>> Regards Chris
>>> 
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Re: Magnification with Mac

[Eleanor Burke]

Hi Brian, you will be aware that I have looked at the in-built Zoom on my 
Mac.  While it reaches a satisfactory magnification level for me what I have 
found that I need to use a mouse to get around the screen due to the 
magnification.  To this end, I have used an Apple Magic mouse which is a 
bluetooth mouse.  What I have encountered is that the mouse movement is very 
sluggish indeed so unlike using a mouse on my Windows machine with 
Supernova.  Now my question to you is if the student found the same problem 
with the mouse and furthermore with Zoomtext is there a sluggish mouse on 
high magnification?
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Jones" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac


Hello Eleanor,

On my Mac running OS 10.9.2 I am able to activate the Zoom hotkeys by going 
to System Preferences / Accessibility / Zoom. That same preference pane 
lists the available hotkeys for toggling Zoom and for zooming in and out. 
Are these hotkeys not working on your system?


Bryan

On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Eleanor Burke  
wrote:


Hi Brian, I wish to try both forms of magnification but I have asked on a 
few lists about a hot key to put on magnification but nobody has 
responded. I am fairly sure that a key combination on the fly using one of 
the function keys brings it up and increases it, once I try this out I 
will then move to the Zoomtext but as you say a hefty price at £375 
sterling.


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Re: Adium as of today

[Eleanor Burke]

Chris recommended another website for it, presumably they are both the same 
app.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher gilland" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today



It's free, and no.

go to:

http://www.adiumx.com

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Eleanor Burke" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today



Is Adium available through the Mac app store?  How much does it cost?
- Original Message - 
From: "Sean Murphy" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today



Adium I use all the time. I have it set up so when a new chat comes in
from a different person, I am alerted. Since I can have up to 5 to 8
conversations going a time. It is important I know who has just updated 
or

pinged me. No other IM does this sort of thing.

It is all configurable and is one of the best IM chats on the market.

Sean


On 16/03/2014 8:35 am, "Chris Apple boy"  
wrote:



True and yes I probably did. Will have to do some more investigating I
guess. Now I'm not so new to the mac I may just give it another go.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 08:18, Josh Gregory wrote:

No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come
like that by default

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Chris Apple boy
 wrote:

How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but 
didn't
like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then 
online.

If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status
other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as
well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments
greatly appreciated.
--
Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
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Re: Adium as of today

[Christopher gilland]

What are you having issues with within the prefs?  They read perfectly fine 
here last I looked, but then again, I'm not on the nightly build.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today


it works, how ever the prefs don't read well at all. I'm using the nightly 
build btw. but yeah it works even  better then before.


Take care.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Chris Apple boy  
wrote:


How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't 
like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online. 
If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status 
other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as 
well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments 
greatly appreciated.

--
Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
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Re: Adium as of today

[Christopher gilland]

It's free, and no.

go to:

http://www.adiumx.com

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Eleanor Burke" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today



Is Adium available through the Mac app store?  How much does it cost?
- Original Message - 
From: "Sean Murphy" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today



Adium I use all the time. I have it set up so when a new chat comes in
from a different person, I am alerted. Since I can have up to 5 to 8
conversations going a time. It is important I know who has just updated 
or

pinged me. No other IM does this sort of thing.

It is all configurable and is one of the best IM chats on the market.

Sean


On 16/03/2014 8:35 am, "Chris Apple boy"  
wrote:



True and yes I probably did. Will have to do some more investigating I
guess. Now I'm not so new to the mac I may just give it another go.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 08:18, Josh Gregory wrote:

No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come
like that by default

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Chris Apple boy
 wrote:

How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't
like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online.
If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status
other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as
well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments
greatly appreciated.
--
Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
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Re: Adium as of today

[Christopher gilland]

I couldn't agree more.

I personally love it!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sean Murphy" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today



Adium I use all the time. I have it set up so when a new chat comes in
from a different person, I am alerted. Since I can have up to 5 to 8
conversations going a time. It is important I know who has just updated or
pinged me. No other IM does this sort of thing.

It is all configurable and is one of the best IM chats on the market.

Sean


On 16/03/2014 8:35 am, "Chris Apple boy"  wrote:


True and yes I probably did. Will have to do some more investigating I
guess. Now I'm not so new to the mac I may just give it another go.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 08:18, Josh Gregory wrote:

No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come
like that by default

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Chris Apple boy
 wrote:

How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't
like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online.
If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status
other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as
well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments
greatly appreciated.
--
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Re: Adium as of today

[Christopher gilland]

I never have had that problem, ever.  You have to be sure that you set your 
events up correctly, but as long as you do that, it works very very well.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Apple boy" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 4:13 AM
Subject: Adium as of today


How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't 
like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online. If 
they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status other 
than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as well as 
their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments greatly 
appreciated.

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Re: Trouble with Siri ever since iOS 6

[Jessica Benzing]

That is indeed where I am getting stuck. But nothing seems to get me out of it. 
Not touching around on the screen anywhere else or anything. I believe however, 
that I am having some luck with closing all of my apps.

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Travis Siegel  wrote:
> 
> You're getting stuck in the status bar area of the screen, (all the way on 
> the very top of the screen) I have experienced this too, and indeed, in 
> hanging with friends, it happens nearly every time I watch someone guess my 
> word.  The simple solution is just to touch somewhere on the screen that 
> isn't the status bar.  I generally touch on the middle (or depending on how 
> I'm holding the phone) the bottom of the screen, and all gestures behave 
> again.  It's only a minor irritation, so it doesn't bother me much.
> Just for reference, I'm using ios 6.13, having no desire to upgrade to ios 7 
> until I'm convinced it's 100 percent usable, and so far, from what I'm 
> seeing, it's not quite there.
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Re: VO not announcingfolders in mail

[Sarah k Alawami]

I would not do that personally. as you want to see at a glance what a 
conversation contains.  and if you don't like one pressing delete once is 
easier then pressing delete several times just to remove a conversation.

Take care.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:15 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:

> I am getting the “expanded” and collapsed” messages spoken by VoiceOver. But 
> what I’m wondering is this. Is there a setting that will permanently expand 
> the messages conversations? I’ve looked but can’t find anything to that 
> effect.
> Jake
> JAKE JOEHL
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> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Are you sure it is not saying expanded and collapsed? normally if it odes 
>> that you know there are subfolders and stuff.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Mark Furness  wrote:
>> 
>>> Running Mavericks,
>>> as I go through my mail boxes it does not announce if there are sub boxes 
>>> within the boxes or folders.
>>> 
>>> Fortunately, I know which ones do then I right arrow to open it up. 
>>> left arrow to close.
>>> 
>>> How can I get this info each timeas not all mail boxes do this?
>>> 
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

[Eleanor Burke]

Are you saying I can use quick nav instead of using the locked vo keys?
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Apple boy" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages 
where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see what I 
mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web elements 
but these are off by default but can be turned on in VoiceOver Utility, 
commanders, quicknav tab.


Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote:

OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but
are you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can only get
to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and
error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it?
- Original Message - From: "Chris Apple boy"

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock
them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know.
To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with
left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:
Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I open 
my

Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the voice
over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Re: VO not announcingfolders in mail

[JAKE JOEHL]

I am getting the “expanded” and collapsed” messages spoken by VoiceOver. But 
what I’m wondering is this. Is there a setting that will permanently expand the 
messages conversations? I’ve looked but can’t find anything to that effect.
Jake
JAKE JOEHL
jajo...@att.net



On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Are you sure it is not saying expanded and collapsed? normally if it odes 
> that you know there are subfolders and stuff.
> 
> Take care.
> On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Mark Furness  wrote:
> 
>> Running Mavericks,
>> as I go through my mail boxes it does not announce if there are sub boxes 
>> within the boxes or folders.
>> 
>> Fortunately, I know which ones do then I right arrow to open it up. 
>> left arrow to close.
>> 
>> How can I get this info each timeas not all mail boxes do this?
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: VO not announcingfolders in mail

[Sarah k Alawami]

Are you sure it is not saying expanded and collapsed? normally if it odes that 
you know there are subfolders and stuff.

Take care.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Mark Furness  wrote:

> Running Mavericks,
> as I go through my mail boxes it does not announce if there are sub boxes 
> within the boxes or folders.
> 
> Fortunately, I know which ones do then I right arrow to open it up. 
> left arrow to close.
> 
> How can I get this info each timeas not all mail boxes do this?
> 
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VO not announcingfolders in mail

[Mark Furness]

Running Mavericks,
as I go through my mail boxes it does not announce if there are sub boxes 
within the boxes or folders.

Fortunately, I know which ones do then I right arrow to open it up. 
left arrow to close.

How can I get this info each timeas not all mail boxes do this?

Mark
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RE: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

[David Griffith]

Use quick nav whenever you would normally be using the VO Cursor keys or
interacting etc. Also use it on the web.

Turn it off whenever you need to type text at the keyboard.

David Griffith

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 16 March 2014 20:30
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but are 
you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can only get to know

when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and error or can 
you give me a rule of thumb about it?
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Apple boy" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


> Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock them.

> Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know. To save 
> even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with left-right. 
> You then just use arrow keys for navigation.
>
> Regards Chris
>
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>
> On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>> Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I open my
>> Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the voice
>> over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
>> where it requires both hands?
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

[Chris Apple boy]

You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages 
where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see what 
I mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web 
elements but these are off by default but can be turned on in VoiceOver 
Utility, commanders, quicknav tab.


Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote:

OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but
are you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can only get
to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and
error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it?
- Original Message - From: "Chris Apple boy"

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock
them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know.
To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with
left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I open my
Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the voice
over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Re: Adium as of today

[Chris Apple boy]

Hope you told the devs of this as the stable release the prefs read very 
well here.


Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 18:19, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

it works, how ever the prefs don't read well at all. I'm using the nightly 
build btw. but yeah it works even  better then before.

Take care.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Chris Apple boy  wrote:


How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't like the 
system voice announcing when someone is connected then online. If they're 
connected then to me they're online or in some other status other than offline 
so don't need to know whether they're connected as well as their actual status. 
As a result I gave up on it. Any comments greatly appreciated.
--
Regards Chris

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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

[Eleanor Burke]

OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but are 
you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can only get to know 
when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and error or can 
you give me a rule of thumb about it?
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Apple boy" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock them. 
Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know. To save 
even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with left-right. 
You then just use arrow keys for navigation.


Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I open my
Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the voice
over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

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Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock 
them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know. To 
save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with 
left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.


Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I open my
Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the voice
over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext

[Eleanor Burke]

Hi All, while I have not tried out Zoomtext at a cost of £375 (not even 
tried the demo) as I now know how to use Zoom on the Mac and would never 
dream of spending that amount of money for Zoom.  However, one thing I do 
notice is that as I use reverse colours, black background and white text, 
the mouse is white too, however, unless I have the window maxamised, then 
the white mouse can get lost in the area of the screen below a window that 
is not maxamised.  This however is something that Apple could alter I am 
sure if in accessability they provided different colour mouse pointers. 


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Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

[Eleanor Burke]

Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I open my Mac 
and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the voice over keys 
when I want to do a command like interacting with a table where it requires 
both hands? 


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Re: voice over speed hack for osx

[Geoff Stephens]

Great!  I am new enough with the Mac that I did not think about just exporting 
the settings and starting from those.  I have now done so and consequently 
modified the rate.  It works very well!


On Mar 16, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

You simple edit preferences you export. Rename the voiceover archive extension 
to .plist and then open it in xcode and follow the directions from there.

Take care.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:

> Well, while I appreciate the podcast, it focuses on how to install xCode and 
> other things like editing preferences you have already saved in your dock.  
> Honestly, I sometimes have difficulty following these kinds of podcasts.  
> Simple instructions tend to work better for me.  Nevertheless, I’m sure most 
> people really prefer the podcast format.  What I need to know is how to 
> locate a VO preferences file to modify.  If I look in ~/library, I do find VO 
> preferences but am not at all sure how these are organized and which file I 
> can use to get a copy of my most recently saved preferences to modify.  The 
> link to your example preferences no longer works but that’s fine.  I don’t 
> think I wanted to start with someone else’s preferences anyway.
> 
> Does anyone know how to locate the most recently saved VO preferences?
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> I'd also advice you wait. lol!  I did not feel comfortable doing this hack 
> when  I did it last year, and I've now been using the mac for 4 years now and 
> am loving every bit of it.
> 
> Take care to all and be blessed.
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:00 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
> 
>> I listened to your presentation too yesterday and you did a nice job. But 
>> still being the newbie to the Mac that I am, I think I’ll wait awhile before 
>> I do something like this if I even do it at all. I just don’t know that much 
>> programming in general on anything but DOS, and the last thing I’d want to 
>> do is go and break something. Especially on this new laptop! Thanks again 
>> though.
>> Jake
>> JAKE JOEHL
>> jajo...@att.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes it would, and you have to edit files. I am not jail broken so can't 
>>> help in any way shape or form there. Sorry. I don't have a presentation and 
>>> apple vis took the one someone had written down as nuance found out about 
>>> this and said they will not endorse  such activities. 
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Sarah,
 
 Excellent presentation and information as always, but I have the 
 impression that getting an altered prefs file to transfer to the desired 
 location on an IOS device would necessitate a JB?
 
 Best regards.
 Geoff
 
 - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
 To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:06 PM
 Subject: Re: voice over speed hack for osx
 
 
> Here you  go.
> 
> http://www.tffppodcast.com/how-to-change-voice-overs-rate-to-something-above-100-percent/
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
> 
>> I would like to use Samantha at 130 percent.  I currently use it at 100 
>> percent and it seems very slow.  Does anyone know how to find this hack 
>> posted on twitter?
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey, it's what ever floats our boat., I personally use samantha at 130 
>> percent, yes, 130 percent, thanks to a hack someone posted on twitter 
>> and I did a podcast on a very long time ago. She's very responsive for 
>> me.
>> 
>> Tc all and have a very happy tuesday.
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:53 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>> 
>>> I was *really* looking forward to trying it out, but thanks for the 
>>> heads up. Personally I think Alex is good enough, along with the other 
>>> voices on my Mac.
>>> Jake
>>> JAKE JOEHL
>>> jajo...@att.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Christopher gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 That's exactly, Sarah, what I thought of when I read the readme.  You 
 read my mind!
 
 Hopefully, you all got my other message about the infected file.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
 
 To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:25 PM
 Subject: Re: New Voice Synthesizer For OSX
 
 
> I read the directions and it looks way too complex for me to try. I 
> did have wine installed once, and on once.
> 
> the catch is this, you need to have the server running. I wonder what 
> happens if you forget to switch voice and accidental close out the

Re: Adium as of today

[Sarah k Alawami]

it works, how ever the prefs don't read well at all. I'm using the nightly 
build btw. but yeah it works even  better then before.

Take care.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Chris Apple boy  wrote:

> How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't like 
> the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online. If they're 
> connected then to me they're online or in some other status other than 
> offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as well as their 
> actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments greatly appreciated.
> -- 
> Regards Chris
> 
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Re: voice over speed hack for osx

[Sarah k Alawami]

You simple edit preferences you export. Rename the voiceover archive extension 
to .plist and then open it in xcode and follow the directions from there.

Take care.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:

> Well, while I appreciate the podcast, it focuses on how to install xCode and 
> other things like editing preferences you have already saved in your dock.  
> Honestly, I sometimes have difficulty following these kinds of podcasts.  
> Simple instructions tend to work better for me.  Nevertheless, I’m sure most 
> people really prefer the podcast format.  What I need to know is how to 
> locate a VO preferences file to modify.  If I look in ~/library, I do find VO 
> preferences but am not at all sure how these are organized and which file I 
> can use to get a copy of my most recently saved preferences to modify.  The 
> link to your example preferences no longer works but that’s fine.  I don’t 
> think I wanted to start with someone else’s preferences anyway.
> 
> Does anyone know how to locate the most recently saved VO preferences?
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> I'd also advice you wait. lol!  I did not feel comfortable doing this hack 
> when  I did it last year, and I've now been using the mac for 4 years now and 
> am loving every bit of it.
> 
> Take care to all and be blessed.
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:00 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
> 
>> I listened to your presentation too yesterday and you did a nice job. But 
>> still being the newbie to the Mac that I am, I think I’ll wait awhile before 
>> I do something like this if I even do it at all. I just don’t know that much 
>> programming in general on anything but DOS, and the last thing I’d want to 
>> do is go and break something. Especially on this new laptop! Thanks again 
>> though.
>> Jake
>> JAKE JOEHL
>> jajo...@att.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes it would, and you have to edit files. I am not jail broken so can't 
>>> help in any way shape or form there. Sorry. I don't have a presentation and 
>>> apple vis took the one someone had written down as nuance found out about 
>>> this and said they will not endorse  such activities. 
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Sarah,
 
 Excellent presentation and information as always, but I have the 
 impression that getting an altered prefs file to transfer to the desired 
 location on an IOS device would necessitate a JB?
 
 Best regards.
 Geoff
 
 - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
 To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:06 PM
 Subject: Re: voice over speed hack for osx
 
 
> Here you  go.
> 
> http://www.tffppodcast.com/how-to-change-voice-overs-rate-to-something-above-100-percent/
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
> 
>> I would like to use Samantha at 130 percent.  I currently use it at 100 
>> percent and it seems very slow.  Does anyone know how to find this hack 
>> posted on twitter?
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey, it's what ever floats our boat., I personally use samantha at 130 
>> percent, yes, 130 percent, thanks to a hack someone posted on twitter 
>> and I did a podcast on a very long time ago. She's very responsive for 
>> me.
>> 
>> Tc all and have a very happy tuesday.
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:53 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>> 
>>> I was *really* looking forward to trying it out, but thanks for the 
>>> heads up. Personally I think Alex is good enough, along with the other 
>>> voices on my Mac.
>>> Jake
>>> JAKE JOEHL
>>> jajo...@att.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Christopher gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 That's exactly, Sarah, what I thought of when I read the readme.  You 
 read my mind!
 
 Hopefully, you all got my other message about the infected file.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
 
 To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:25 PM
 Subject: Re: New Voice Synthesizer For OSX
 
 
> I read the directions and it looks way too complex for me to try. I 
> did have wine installed once, and on once.
> 
> the catch is this, you need to have the server running. I wonder what 
> happens if you forget to switch voice and accidental close out the 
> server. Will it revert to what ever voice you had before switching to 
> read?
> 
> take care.
> On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Christopher gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Oh? my? god!  Eloquen

Re: voice over speed hack for osx

[Geoff Stephens]

Well, I’m afraid that I have now lost my preferences in my experimentation.  I 
have to start from ground 0 with configuring VO.  Guess it’s not so bad but 
will certainly require some time.  If anyone has any insight about how these 
files are stored, I would appreciate it.

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Re: Adium as of today

[chris]

As far as I know you have to download Adium from the web. If you google for it 
the first result should be the download page. It is hosted on Sourceforge so 
make sure you get it from there. In any case this is a free mac application and 
by the way I actually like Adium now. All those years ago it turned out I had 
Adium to speak when a contact returns from idle and away, hence it saying 
connected then shortly after become active. It's a shame you can't preview what 
will be spoken unlike events that play a sound where the sound is played as 
soon as the action is in focus.
Regards Chris
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On 16 Mar 2014, at 11:08, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> Is Adium available through the Mac app store?  How much does it cost?
> - Original Message - From: "Sean Murphy" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Adium as of today
> 
> 
>> Adium I use all the time. I have it set up so when a new chat comes in
>> from a different person, I am alerted. Since I can have up to 5 to 8
>> conversations going a time. It is important I know who has just updated or
>> pinged me. No other IM does this sort of thing.
>> 
>> It is all configurable and is one of the best IM chats on the market.
>> 
>> Sean
>> 
>> 
>> On 16/03/2014 8:35 am, "Chris Apple boy"  wrote:
>> 
>>> True and yes I probably did. Will have to do some more investigating I
>>> guess. Now I'm not so new to the mac I may just give it another go.
>>> 
>>> Regards Chris
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 16/03/2014 08:18, Josh Gregory wrote:
 No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come
 like that by default
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Chris Apple boy
>  wrote:
> 
> How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't
> like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online.
> If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status
> other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as
> well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments
> greatly appreciated.
> --
> Regards Chris
> 
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>>> 

Re: voice over speed hack for osx

[Geoff Stephens]

Well, while I appreciate the podcast, it focuses on how to install xCode and 
other things like editing preferences you have already saved in your dock.  
Honestly, I sometimes have difficulty following these kinds of podcasts.  
Simple instructions tend to work better for me.  Nevertheless, I’m sure most 
people really prefer the podcast format.  What I need to know is how to locate 
a VO preferences file to modify.  If I look in ~/library, I do find VO 
preferences but am not at all sure how these are organized and which file I can 
use to get a copy of my most recently saved preferences to modify.  The link to 
your example preferences no longer works but that’s fine.  I don’t think I 
wanted to start with someone else’s preferences anyway.

Does anyone know how to locate the most recently saved VO preferences?
Thanks.





On Mar 13, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

I'd also advice you wait. lol!  I did not feel comfortable doing this hack when 
 I did it last year, and I've now been using the mac for 4 years now and am 
loving every bit of it.

Take care to all and be blessed.
On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:00 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:

> I listened to your presentation too yesterday and you did a nice job. But 
> still being the newbie to the Mac that I am, I think I’ll wait awhile before 
> I do something like this if I even do it at all. I just don’t know that much 
> programming in general on anything but DOS, and the last thing I’d want to do 
> is go and break something. Especially on this new laptop! Thanks again though.
> Jake
> JAKE JOEHL
> jajo...@att.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Yes it would, and you have to edit files. I am not jail broken so can't help 
>> in any way shape or form there. Sorry. I don't have a presentation and apple 
>> vis took the one someone had written down as nuance found out about this and 
>> said they will not endorse  such activities. 
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sarah,
>>> 
>>> Excellent presentation and information as always, but I have the impression 
>>> that getting an altered prefs file to transfer to the desired location on 
>>> an IOS device would necessitate a JB?
>>> 
>>> Best regards.
>>> Geoff
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: voice over speed hack for osx
>>> 
>>> 
 Here you  go.
 
 http://www.tffppodcast.com/how-to-change-voice-overs-rate-to-something-above-100-percent/
 
 
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
 
> I would like to use Samantha at 130 percent.  I currently use it at 100 
> percent and it seems very slow.  Does anyone know how to find this hack 
> posted on twitter?
> 
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Hey, it's what ever floats our boat., I personally use samantha at 130 
> percent, yes, 130 percent, thanks to a hack someone posted on twitter and 
> I did a podcast on a very long time ago. She's very responsive for me.
> 
> Tc all and have a very happy tuesday.
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:53 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
> 
>> I was *really* looking forward to trying it out, but thanks for the 
>> heads up. Personally I think Alex is good enough, along with the other 
>> voices on my Mac.
>> Jake
>> JAKE JOEHL
>> jajo...@att.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Christopher gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> That's exactly, Sarah, what I thought of when I read the readme.  You 
>>> read my mind!
>>> 
>>> Hopefully, you all got my other message about the infected file.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>> 
>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: New Voice Synthesizer For OSX
>>> 
>>> 
 I read the directions and it looks way too complex for me to try. I 
 did have wine installed once, and on once.
 
 the catch is this, you need to have the server running. I wonder what 
 happens if you forget to switch voice and accidental close out the 
 server. Will it revert to what ever voice you had before switching to 
 read?
 
 take care.
 On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Christopher gilland 
  wrote:
 
> Oh? my? god!  Eloquence? for the mac?  Pardon my language, but, 
> you're shitting me!
> 
> Dane? if this works, you are gonna make my night? week, month, year, 
> decade, century, and millennium!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: M

Re: Adium as of today

[Eleanor Burke]

Is Adium available through the Mac app store?  How much does it cost?
- Original Message - 
From: "Sean Murphy" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today



Adium I use all the time. I have it set up so when a new chat comes in
from a different person, I am alerted. Since I can have up to 5 to 8
conversations going a time. It is important I know who has just updated or
pinged me. No other IM does this sort of thing.

It is all configurable and is one of the best IM chats on the market.

Sean


On 16/03/2014 8:35 am, "Chris Apple boy"  wrote:


True and yes I probably did. Will have to do some more investigating I
guess. Now I'm not so new to the mac I may just give it another go.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 08:18, Josh Gregory wrote:

No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come
like that by default

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Chris Apple boy
 wrote:

How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't
like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online.
If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status
other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as
well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments
greatly appreciated.
--
Regards Chris

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Re: Adium as of today

[Sean Murphy]

Adium I use all the time. I have it set up so when a new chat comes in 
from a different person, I am alerted. Since I can have up to 5 to 8 
conversations going a time. It is important I know who has just updated or 
pinged me. No other IM does this sort of thing.

It is all configurable and is one of the best IM chats on the market.

Sean 


On 16/03/2014 8:35 am, "Chris Apple boy"  wrote:

>True and yes I probably did. Will have to do some more investigating I 
>guess. Now I'm not so new to the mac I may just give it another go.
>
>Regards Chris
>
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>
>On 16/03/2014 08:18, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come 
>>like that by default
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Chris Apple boy 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't 
>>>like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online. 
>>>If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status 
>>>other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as 
>>>well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments 
>>>greatly appreciated.
>>> --
>>> Regards Chris
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Re: Adium as of today

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True and yes I probably did. Will have to do some more investigating I 
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No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come like 
that by default

Sent from my iPhone


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How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't like the 
system voice announcing when someone is connected then online. If they're 
connected then to me they're online or in some other status other than offline 
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Re: Adium as of today

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No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come like 
that by default

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Chris Apple boy  wrote:
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> How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't like 
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Adium as of today

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How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't 
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