Re: Usability of Spotify

[Sarah k Alawami]

I don't think apple vis does campaigns of the month anymore. I don't see a 
submition for it on their site. If this is the case it looks like we are on our 
own in terms of doing this which I think is a good thing as it teaches us 
advocacy.


Take care.

On Apr 7, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:

> Christina, I forwarded your message to Spotify, as an example of other people 
> asking for the same thing of accessibility that I am and have been asking for 
> for quite a while. I hope they see this and hope you didn't mind me passing 
> this along to them as yet another piece of ammunition to hopefully get them 
> to make it more accessible. Anyway, hope you're doing well and hope you 
> didn't mind me passing this good piece of info along. Thanks again and take 
> care. 
> On Apr 7, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Christian Schöpplein  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> after the Spotify iPhone app was updated to version 1.0 the usability  
>> dropped because many buttons are not labeled anymore :-(. Also the web 
>> player has been updated with the result that it is even more inaccessible 
>> :-(. The Mac OS or Windows application was and is unuseable since I started 
>> with Spotify…, all in all this is a not very nice situation :-(.
>> 
>> Some German Mac and iPhone users wrote to Spotify and  told them about the 
>> problems we have with their products and  they got good feedback. The 
>> problems will be forwarded to the development team and maybe something will 
>> happen that makes the programms and the web player more useable for us. 
>> Maybe all of you, that also use Spotify, could also write to the 
>> supp...@spotify.com address  and tell them about the accessibility issues, 
>> the more people are writing, the better :-). And maybe a new campagne of the 
>> month of AppleVis regarding of Spotify would be the right thing now…, the 
>> last caused no results, as far as I know :-).
>> 
>> I like Spotify very much and it would be sad not to be able to use their 
>> products because they get more and more inaccessible… Please help and let 
>> them know, that there are many blind people out there that like to use 
>> Spotify also in the future!
>> 
>> Cheers from Munich and thanks for your support,
>> 
>> Christian
>> 
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Re: Usability of Spotify

[Tim Emmons]

Christina, I forwarded your message to Spotify, as an example of other people 
asking for the same thing of accessibility that I am and have been asking for 
for quite a while. I hope they see this and hope you didn't mind me passing 
this along to them as yet another piece of ammunition to hopefully get them to 
make it more accessible. Anyway, hope you're doing well and hope you didn't 
mind me passing this good piece of info along. Thanks again and take care. 
On Apr 7, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Christian Schöpplein  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> after the Spotify iPhone app was updated to version 1.0 the usability  
> dropped because many buttons are not labeled anymore :-(. Also the web player 
> has been updated with the result that it is even more inaccessible :-(. The 
> Mac OS or Windows application was and is unuseable since I started with 
> Spotify…, all in all this is a not very nice situation :-(.
> 
> Some German Mac and iPhone users wrote to Spotify and  told them about the 
> problems we have with their products and  they got good feedback. The 
> problems will be forwarded to the development team and maybe something will 
> happen that makes the programms and the web player more useable for us. Maybe 
> all of you, that also use Spotify, could also write to the 
> supp...@spotify.com address  and tell them about the accessibility issues, 
> the more people are writing, the better :-). And maybe a new campagne of the 
> month of AppleVis regarding of Spotify would be the right thing now…, the 
> last caused no results, as far as I know :-).
> 
> I like Spotify very much and it would be sad not to be able to use their 
> products because they get more and more inaccessible… Please help and let 
> them know, that there are many blind people out there that like to use 
> Spotify also in the future!
> 
> Cheers from Munich and thanks for your support,
> 
>  Christian
> 
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Usability of Spotify

[Christian Schöpplein]

Hi,

after the Spotify iPhone app was updated to version 1.0 the usability  dropped 
because many buttons are not labeled anymore :-(. Also the web player has been 
updated with the result that it is even more inaccessible :-(. The Mac OS or 
Windows application was and is unuseable since I started with Spotify…, all in 
all this is a not very nice situation :-(.

Some German Mac and iPhone users wrote to Spotify and  told them about the 
problems we have with their products and  they got good feedback. The problems 
will be forwarded to the development team and maybe something will happen that 
makes the programms and the web player more useable for us. Maybe all of you, 
that also use Spotify, could also write to the supp...@spotify.com address  and 
tell them about the accessibility issues, the more people are writing, the 
better :-). And maybe a new campagne of the month of AppleVis regarding of 
Spotify would be the right thing now…, the last caused no results, as far as I 
know :-).

I like Spotify very much and it would be sad not to be able to use their 
products because they get more and more inaccessible… Please help and let them 
know, that there are many blind people out there that like to use Spotify also 
in the future!

Cheers from Munich and thanks for your support,

  Christian

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Re: not notified of battery drain in mac 10.9

[Sarah k Alawami]

No I get that, but in my case it's 7. running mavericks on a mid 2009nmbp 13 
inch.

Good luck.
On Apr 7, 2014, at 11:18 AM, William Lomas  wrote:

> hi all is the battery notification now in 10.9 for the fact the battery will 
> die in ten mins only on macbook air after 2013?
> i haven’t got the right model if that is the case
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Re: not notified of battery drain in mac 10.9

[Chris Apple boy]

On my Macbook Pro I get one single notification marked low battery. I 
don't know how low it is as I haven't checked the battery in the Extras 
Menu at the time.


Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 07/04/2014 19:18, William Lomas wrote:

hi all is the battery notification now in 10.9 for the fact the battery will 
die in ten mins only on macbook air after 2013?
i haven’t got the right model if that is the case

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not notified of battery drain in mac 10.9

[William Lomas]

hi all is the battery notification now in 10.9 for the fact the battery will 
die in ten mins only on macbook air after 2013?
i haven’t got the right model if that is the case

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Re: Drag and drop was Re: Vienna

[Sarah k Alawami]

I don't even bother with folders. My feeds are jus talphabitised. lol!  I would 
not even worry about it, destroy your folders and just have the feeds scattered 
or try and put them in ABC order.  but make sure that you move your feeds out 
of the folders before you do this of corse. Vienna really rocks and is a very 
good pod catcher if you want to use it that way.

Take care.
On Apr 7, 2014, at 4:07 AM, Catherine Turner 
 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Ah this is interesting as I haven't upgraded yet and am still using OS
> X 10.8.4.
> 
> I wonder if there's some way of structuring an opml file so that feeds
> could be imported and put into desired folders in the way I want.  I'm
> not too bothered about alphabetising them but I really do want to be
> able to put folders where I want.  This is a shame as I really like
> the app otherwise.
> 
> Catherine
> 
> On 4/6/14, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> I think there is a focus issue as I've been trying to alphabetize my feeds
>> again aster adding new ones. it was easier in osx mountain lion as focus was
>> never lost, how ever it has become nearly impossible to do this under the
>> current build of mavericks. I hope apple can take a look at this as I'd love
>> to have the same access to drag and drop that a sighted person would have.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
>> 
>>> Catherine,
>>> When I get the chance later, I'll experiment with it to try to give you
>>> some suggestions for how to get things just right with regard to the order
>>> of folders/feeds in Vienna.
>>> 
>>> For now, let me just say that your confusion about the enclosed items will
>>> be eliminated when you understand that VO is not saying "two items and
>>> closed."  It is saying "two items enclosed."  Maybe that will help a
>>> little.  Still, it is a little tricky to get things
>>> exactly right with regard to the order of things in Vienna.  Admittedly, I
>>> have not been overly concerned about it but to get things into folders.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Catherine Turner
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I wonder if anyone can help me be more successful at drag and drop.
>>> I've been trying to create folders and put them in the order I want
>>> and at the level I want in Vienna but this probably applies to other
>>> situations too.
>>> 
>>> I never seem to be able to get the folders where I want them.  Quite
>>> often folders I want at the same level as other folders end up inside
>>> them instead.  i.e. I want all the folders to be at level 0 but often
>>> when I drag a folder it ends up at level 1 inside another folder.  I
>>> wonder whether the disclosure triangle has anything to do with this
>>> and I have always been confused by the disclosure triangle.  I also
>>> wonder whether the use of quick nav affects how it works.  I quite
>>> often get confused when VO says things like "folder bla level 1
>>> expanded, 2 items and closed" - it seems odd to me that it can
>>> simultaneously say something is expanded and closed.
>>> 
>>> Anyway I wonder if anyone can help me understand how to drag and drop
>>> folders.  I don't know enough to know whether what I'm trying to do is
>>> impossible all together, impossible in Vienna or I'm simply doing the
>>> wrong thing.
>>> 
>>> At the moment I have a folder I created called development and another
>>> called food.  Food is further up the list and I want to put
>>> development before food.  So I have quick nav on and have interacted
>>> with the table.  I go to development, VO says "development edit text
>>> collapsed".  I mark it for drag and drop and then move back up the
>>> list to food.  But it seems no matter if I press drop, drop before or
>>> drop after I always seem to end up with the development folder inside
>>> food or another folder.
>>> 
>>> All I actually want to do is have all the folders at level 0 and
>>> arranged alphabetically.  But when I create a new folder in Vienna it
>>> often doesn't put it where I want which is why I got into this drag
>>> and drop in the first place.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone help?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Catherine
>>> 
>>> On 4/5/14, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
 Catherine -
 Yes. Use drag and drop.
 
 On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Catherine Turner
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Another question.  I've created a folder and am wondering how to put
 certain feeds into it.  I can't figure this out from the menus, help
 or FAQs...I'm assuming it's possible.  I created a folder called
 TechNews and want to put some of the feeds already in Vienna into that
 folder.  Can anyone tell me if/how that's possible?
 
 I tried going into the context menu and going to edit feed but this
 just allows me to change the url.  Option clicking on it does the
 same...
 
 Perhaps I would need to drag and drop.  Or perhaps I'm
 misunderstanding the way folders work in Vienna...  Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Catherine
>

Re: Drag and drop was Re: Vienna

[Catherine Turner]

Hi,

Ah this is interesting as I haven't upgraded yet and am still using OS
X 10.8.4.

I wonder if there's some way of structuring an opml file so that feeds
could be imported and put into desired folders in the way I want.  I'm
not too bothered about alphabetising them but I really do want to be
able to put folders where I want.  This is a shame as I really like
the app otherwise.

Catherine

On 4/6/14, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> I think there is a focus issue as I've been trying to alphabetize my feeds
> again aster adding new ones. it was easier in osx mountain lion as focus was
> never lost, how ever it has become nearly impossible to do this under the
> current build of mavericks. I hope apple can take a look at this as I'd love
> to have the same access to drag and drop that a sighted person would have.
>
> Take care.
> On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
>
>> Catherine,
>> When I get the chance later, I'll experiment with it to try to give you
>> some suggestions for how to get things just right with regard to the order
>> of folders/feeds in Vienna.
>>
>> For now, let me just say that your confusion about the enclosed items will
>> be eliminated when you understand that VO is not saying "two items and
>> closed."  It is saying "two items enclosed."  Maybe that will help a
>> little.  Still, it is a little tricky to get things
>> exactly right with regard to the order of things in Vienna.  Admittedly, I
>> have not been overly concerned about it but to get things into folders.
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Catherine Turner
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I wonder if anyone can help me be more successful at drag and drop.
>> I've been trying to create folders and put them in the order I want
>> and at the level I want in Vienna but this probably applies to other
>> situations too.
>>
>> I never seem to be able to get the folders where I want them.  Quite
>> often folders I want at the same level as other folders end up inside
>> them instead.  i.e. I want all the folders to be at level 0 but often
>> when I drag a folder it ends up at level 1 inside another folder.  I
>> wonder whether the disclosure triangle has anything to do with this
>> and I have always been confused by the disclosure triangle.  I also
>> wonder whether the use of quick nav affects how it works.  I quite
>> often get confused when VO says things like "folder bla level 1
>> expanded, 2 items and closed" - it seems odd to me that it can
>> simultaneously say something is expanded and closed.
>>
>> Anyway I wonder if anyone can help me understand how to drag and drop
>> folders.  I don't know enough to know whether what I'm trying to do is
>> impossible all together, impossible in Vienna or I'm simply doing the
>> wrong thing.
>>
>> At the moment I have a folder I created called development and another
>> called food.  Food is further up the list and I want to put
>> development before food.  So I have quick nav on and have interacted
>> with the table.  I go to development, VO says "development edit text
>> collapsed".  I mark it for drag and drop and then move back up the
>> list to food.  But it seems no matter if I press drop, drop before or
>> drop after I always seem to end up with the development folder inside
>> food or another folder.
>>
>> All I actually want to do is have all the folders at level 0 and
>> arranged alphabetically.  But when I create a new folder in Vienna it
>> often doesn't put it where I want which is why I got into this drag
>> and drop in the first place.
>>
>> Can anyone help?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
>>
>> On 4/5/14, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
>>> Catherine -
>>> Yes. Use drag and drop.
>>>
>>> On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Catherine Turner
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Another question.  I've created a folder and am wondering how to put
>>> certain feeds into it.  I can't figure this out from the menus, help
>>> or FAQs...I'm assuming it's possible.  I created a folder called
>>> TechNews and want to put some of the feeds already in Vienna into that
>>> folder.  Can anyone tell me if/how that's possible?
>>>
>>> I tried going into the context menu and going to edit feed but this
>>> just allows me to change the url.  Option clicking on it does the
>>> same...
>>>
>>> Perhaps I would need to drag and drop.  Or perhaps I'm
>>> misunderstanding the way folders work in Vienna...  Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Catherine
>>>
>>> On 4/4/14, Catherine Turner  wrote:
 Ah thanks, that did it.

 Catherine

 On 4/4/14, Devin Prater  wrote:
> Try VO shift space.
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 19:29, Catherine Turner
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sarah,
>>
>> Glad you mentioned Vienna, have downloaded it and it looks just the
>> kind of thing I was after.  One question - I was looking in the
>> preferences and don't seem to be able to activate any of the buttons
>> other than "general" in the toolbar for the preferen