PDf's
Hello, What is the best way to read PDF's on a Mac with Vo including navigation by headings, links, and so on like we are used with other platforms screen readers? Thanks, Adi. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: PDf's
Yes, that is true, but it looks like preview on the Mac does not do a very good job with pdf's. 2014-06-23 12:42 GMT+03:00, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com: I will not answer your full question but just to point out that on all platforms, including Windows, the ability to navigate by heading etc. in PDF documents depends on whether the PDF file has been tagged properly to allow these accessibility features. In my experience only a small percentage of PDF files have this tagging information included. If the heading or table tags are not included no screenreader will be able to find them. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir Sent: 23 June 2014 09:54 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: PDf's Hello, What is the best way to read PDF's on a Mac with Vo including navigation by headings, links, and so on like we are used with other platforms screen readers? Thanks, Adi. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Regards, Adi Kushnir. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: PDf's
Hi Brian, Thanks. So, it seems that I will have to install another operating system on my expensive Mac Book Pro to get this job done. Ok, I'll do that. Thanks, Adi. 2014-06-23 18:31 GMT+03:00, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com: Hello Adi, Access to PDF files is an important part of my day-to-day life and I've tested a dozen or more PDF reading Mac apps over the past few years but have found no single app that provides anything resembling true access to properly tagged PDF files on the Mac. I assumed all PDF files must just be inherently inaccessible because my only point of reference was the limited access provided by the PDF tools available to Mac VO Users. It was only recently that I discovered how wonderfully accessible a properly created PDF file can be when read on Windows. While Preview and Skim provide basic access to PDF files on the Mac, AFAIK there is no tool on the Mac that even comes close to properly handling accessible PDF files in the way that the free Adobe Reader does on Windows. Speaking of Adobe Reader, the Mac version is essentially useless in terms of VO access. On a hopeful note, the latest version of the paid PDFpen application shows promise as the Developer specifically focussed on VO usage including making form fields accessible. I don't think PDFpen yet provides accessible navigation by headings, etc, but it might be worth testing if PDF files are important to you. HTH, Bryan On Jun 23, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Adi Kushnir adikush...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is true, but it looks like preview on the Mac does not do a very good job with pdf's. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Regards, Adi Kushnir. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Hebrew voices, thoughts and question?
Hello, My name is Adi Kushnir and I am from Israel. I will share with you anything I can on this topic, but please don't ask for more, see below why: I have been discussing this with Apple since Nuance came out with this voice, about a year and a half ago. My reason for that was iOS accessibility, not so the Macintosh. With Hebrew TTS, there are lots of legal and technical problems of distribution and this is why Apple have not done it yet. For the computer world we don't need this so much at Israel because the country services help us by funding other screen readers for Windows, such as the best and leading JAWS from Freedom Scientific which I am also commited for making it available as a Hebrew supported and localized release and it's going quite wel here. So, for the computer space we don't need that mucha and this is not the main focus eria. We need iOS. I can not share anything with you do to none-disclosure agreement with Apple inc, but there is some progress. Don't write to Apple Accessibility because no answers that are relevant will be given to you. I kindly ask you to close this topic for now and waite for the near future to come, atleast for iOS accessibility. Again, don't ask me any more about it and there is no reason to continue this topic on list because nothing can be said/announced/done today. Best regards, Adi. 2014-05-09 10:39 GMT+03:00, Rafi Cohen rafico2...@gmail.com: Hello all, Technicly, there is a way of incorporating the Hebrew voice into Mac OS X. This can be done with Carmit - the voice that you are talking about. But, it envolves writing this voice in a way that will be recognized by the speech manager interface. It is totally possible because Apple uses Vocalizer Expressive already, so you have just to write Carmit and wrap it with a wrapper. But, the version you have for NVDA is not that good, because Apple uses a more recent version of the TTS in OS X and even in iOS, NVDA uses V1.1 and Apple uses V1.3 and they can not work together. There is currently a development going on here in Israel, which I have not tested but heard on a machine of somebuddy who is trying to get it around. But, this development requires an investment, and I think it will be the best to wait until WWDC because there are currently discussions with Apple going on for them to build it into iOS and OS X. I'll update you when I'll have more information. Best regards, Rafi. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Laurel and Stockard Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:26 PM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Hebrew voices, thoughts and question? Ok, I did find it with vocalizer for NVDA. So, question, can you get NVDA voices and use them with other things, Voiceover etc? I feel like short of just using a program like VM Fusion and windows on the mac, there's gotta be some kind of work around. I feel like there's probably some back door type way to get this voice installed on a mac, it's just, we haven't found it yet. Thoughts? Laurel On May 8, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: This voice is very good, from the little I know about Hebrew. It is for NVDA. Salome in Yeshuah. On May 7, 2014, at 21:56, Laurel and Stockard laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I ran across an interesting piece of information today regarding a Hebrew voice for text to speech solutions. Apparently, Nuance has developed recently and put out a Hebrew voice, named Carmit. This voice is available on windows and Android platforms. Now, what makes this interesting is that from what my research taught me, Apple actually uses Nuance as a voice provider. Most of my voices that I use with voiceover are in fact Nuance voices. Tarik, the Arabic voice, and Aurelie, the French voice, are 2 examples of this, as well as the English South African voice. Now, apparently all that Apple would have to do it would seem to make the Hebrew Carmit voice available would be to add it to its Nuance voice server. It seems that this could be rather an easy fix for Apple, especially since they already use a tun of Nuance voices. Question 1, what do you guys think? Is this a possible solution? I know there are a small group of us that really want a Hebrew voice. question 2, do any of you know if it's possible to somehow get a Nuance voice, like this Hebrew one, on the mac through some 3rd party means? I wish there was a way I could try and make it work. Anyway, I'm interested in you alls thoughts on this. If you wanna know more or hear a sample, just google Hebrew voice Carmit Nuance. Thanks Laurel --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail
