[Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-access]: Mac accessibility

2015-05-26 Thread Esther Kinsman

I did not receive a reply to my email so s
will try again.  the repeating keys are the arrow keys and happens when 
reading tex a line at a time.  No reason - not holding down the key, etc. 
only doing a tap at a time.  This is my second keyboard and although it is 
not as bad it is still happening.
- Original Message - 
From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Mac accessibility



  What do you mean by repeating?  Also, where is it occurring?


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On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Esther Kinsman 
ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:


Somewhere along the way I was led to think the Mac with voice over was 
easy to work but am quickly learning differently.  My key board seems to 
be repeating on the arrow keys?  I got the keyboard replaced but it is 
still doing it - and I set the repeat to none on the keyboard settings. 
Has anyone else had this problem?


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Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document

2015-04-25 Thread Esther kinsman
I have accidentally discovered that if you hold down the v o keys and hit the 
up or down arrow then the end or home key the list of emails in the in box will 
  move about a dozen lines.
On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:48 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

   I'mnot sure what you are asking?  Do you mean while viewing the messages 
 themselves? 
 
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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Esther kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hey, it works!  Now what do I do when I am in a table - for example if I am 
 in the mail box how do I move up and down in multiple lines.
 On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:16 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  It depends on what kind of list you are in.  Be sure you are interacting 
 first and try option-up or option-down arrow.  Also, 
 control-option-shift-home or end on a full sized keyboard.  On a laptop, 
 shift-FN-control-option-left or right arrow.
 
 In text, command-up and command-down arrow will take you to the top or 
 bottom of the document.
 
 
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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Esther Kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 This doesn't work for me!  Any other suggestions?
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 4:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document
 
 
 Huh? option up and down arrow move me up to the top and bottom of a list 
 all the time.  If that fails try cmd up and down arrow. Page down and and 
 up don't and will nevr work, at least they have not for me in 5 years.
 On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Esther kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 No this only moves the curser one line at a time - I was looking to move 
 page up or down or go to home or end of page or document.
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello. Normally cmd up and down arrow will do this for you.
 
 Take care.
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Esther Kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 Hi:\
 
 Is there a quick way to move to the top or bottom of a document, list 
 of email messages, etc?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document

2015-04-23 Thread Esther kinsman
When looking in your In Box all the messages are listed and I would like to 
know how to manoeuvre multiple line - such as page up, etc.
On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:48 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

   I'mnot sure what you are asking?  Do you mean while viewing the messages 
 themselves? 
 
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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Esther kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hey, it works!  Now what do I do when I am in a table - for example if I am 
 in the mail box how do I move up and down in multiple lines.
 On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:16 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  It depends on what kind of list you are in.  Be sure you are interacting 
 first and try option-up or option-down arrow.  Also, 
 control-option-shift-home or end on a full sized keyboard.  On a laptop, 
 shift-FN-control-option-left or right arrow.
 
 In text, command-up and command-down arrow will take you to the top or 
 bottom of the document.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Esther Kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 This doesn't work for me!  Any other suggestions?
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 4:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document
 
 
 Huh? option up and down arrow move me up to the top and bottom of a list 
 all the time.  If that fails try cmd up and down arrow. Page down and and 
 up don't and will nevr work, at least they have not for me in 5 years.
 On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Esther kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 No this only moves the curser one line at a time - I was looking to move 
 page up or down or go to home or end of page or document.
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello. Normally cmd up and down arrow will do this for you.
 
 Take care.
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Esther Kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 Hi:\
 
 Is there a quick way to move to the top or bottom of a document, list 
 of email messages, etc?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Mac accessibility

2015-04-23 Thread Esther kinsman
No, I don’t hold the key down - just tap it.
On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:49 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

I'm still not sure what you are describing. When does this happen?  Are 
 you holding down the arrow keys too long?  
 
 
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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Esther kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 When it repeats it sounds like a woodpecker!!!  It happens mostly in mail or 
 on web sites.On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:17 AM, John Panarese 
 jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean by repeating?  Also, where is it occurring?
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Esther Kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 Somewhere along the way I was led to think the Mac with voice over was 
 easy to work but am quickly learning differently.  My key board seems to 
 be repeating on the arrow keys?  I got the keyboard replaced but it is 
 still doing it - and I set the repeat to none on the keyboard settings.  
 Has anyone else had this problem?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Top Sites

2015-04-23 Thread Esther kinsman
I am still trying to understand the need to hide.  I have discovered by 
accident that if I bring up the menu by pressing v o select and the letter M 
there is a delete function which works sometimes.
On Apr 23, 2015, at 4:10 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 To get rid of top sites hide it  in the view menu.  I can't remember wher it 
 is but yeah.
 
 Hth.
 On Apr 23, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Diane Bomare bomon...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Sarah, pls retype your message  could not decipher typos  
 
 Diane Bomar
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:39, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You can also hid ehtr top sites from ou bu accessibng the view menu. I can't 
 recall where it is in said menu but it is there.
 
 Take care. 
 On Apr 23, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 go into bookmarks our favourites and delete them from there.
 
 
 
 On 23 Apr 2015, at 13:42, Esther Kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 When I open safari there is a number of sites listed that I used 
 previously but would like to delete now.  Can anyone tell me how to delete 
 them?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Top Sites

2015-04-23 Thread Esther kinsman
I don’t have a track pad and discovered a way to delete them.  I have to admit 
that sometimes it is frustrating trying to open or view some of the top sites.  
Is there a protocol method to use?
On Apr 23, 2015, at 1:57 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

   Yes, if I'm dealing with a large list, I will use the trackpad to scroll up 
 or down.  If there is a keyboard shortcut to do this, I am not aware of it.  
 I never like to say it might not exist because I've been proven wrong before.
 
 
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 On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You can also hid ehtr top sites from ou bu accessibng the view menu. I can't 
 recall where it is in said menu but it is there.
 
 Take care. 
 On Apr 23, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 go into bookmarks our favourites and delete them from there.
 
 
 
 On 23 Apr 2015, at 13:42, Esther Kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 When I open safari there is a number of sites listed that I used 
 previously but would like to delete now.  Can anyone tell me how to delete 
 them?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document

2015-04-23 Thread Esther Kinsman

This doesn't work for me!  Any other suggestions?
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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document


Huh? option up and down arrow move me up to the top and bottom of a list 
all the time.  If that fails try cmd up and down arrow. Page down and and 
up don't and will nevr work, at least they have not for me in 5 years.
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No this only moves the curser one line at a time - I was looking to move 
page up or down or go to home or end of page or document.

On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello. Normally cmd up and down arrow will do this for you.

Take care.
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Hi:\

Is there a quick way to move to the top or bottom of a document, list 
of email messages, etc?


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[Mac-access]: Mac accessibility

2015-04-23 Thread Esther Kinsman
Somewhere along the way I was led to think the Mac with voice over was easy to 
work but am quickly learning differently.  My key board seems to be repeating 
on the arrow keys?  I got the keyboard replaced but it is still doing it - and 
I set the repeat to none on the keyboard settings.  Has anyone else had this 
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[Mac-access]: Top Sites

2015-04-23 Thread Esther Kinsman
When I open safari there is a number of sites listed that I used previously but 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Mac accessibility

2015-04-23 Thread Esther kinsman
 
When it repeats it sounds like a woodpecker!!!  It happens mostly in mail or on 
web sites.On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:17 AM, John Panarese 
jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

   What do you mean by repeating?  Also, where is it occurring?
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Somewhere along the way I was led to think the Mac with voice over was easy 
 to work but am quickly learning differently.  My key board seems to be 
 repeating on the arrow keys?  I got the keyboard replaced but it is still 
 doing it - and I set the repeat to none on the keyboard settings.  Has 
 anyone else had this problem?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document

2015-04-23 Thread Esther kinsman
Hey, it works!  Now what do I do when I am in a table - for example if I am in 
the mail box how do I move up and down in multiple lines.
On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:16 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

It depends on what kind of list you are in.  Be sure you are interacting 
 first and try option-up or option-down arrow.  Also, 
 control-option-shift-home or end on a full sized keyboard.  On a laptop, 
 shift-FN-control-option-left or right arrow.
 
   In text, command-up and command-down arrow will take you to the top or 
 bottom of the document.
 
 
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 wrote:
 
 This doesn't work for me!  Any other suggestions?
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 4:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document
 
 
 Huh? option up and down arrow move me up to the top and bottom of a list 
 all the time.  If that fails try cmd up and down arrow. Page down and and 
 up don't and will nevr work, at least they have not for me in 5 years.
 On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Esther kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 No this only moves the curser one line at a time - I was looking to move 
 page up or down or go to home or end of page or document.
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello. Normally cmd up and down arrow will do this for you.
 
 Take care.
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Esther Kinsman 
 ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:
 
 Hi:\
 
 Is there a quick way to move to the top or bottom of a document, list of 
 email messages, etc?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document

2015-04-22 Thread Esther kinsman
No this only moves the curser one line at a time - I was looking to move page 
up or down or go to home or end of page or document.
On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello. Normally cmd up and down arrow will do this for you.
 
 Take care. 
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Esther Kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi:\
 
 Is there a quick way to move to the top or bottom of a document, list of 
 email messages, etc?
 
 Thanks.
 
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[Mac-access]: No, I was referring to moving several lines at a time. This command only moves one.

2015-04-21 Thread Esther kinsman

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[Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document

2015-04-21 Thread Esther Kinsman
Hi:\

Is there a quick way to move to the top or bottom of a document, list of email 
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[Mac-access]: test

2015-04-21 Thread Esther Kinsman
Hello: I subscribed to this list, but when I post I'm informed that I'm not 
registered to post to this list. Can someone please help.

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