Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can get rid of my hot mail account?
Adrian Leong adrianle...@rocketmail.com wrote: Does any one know how i can get rid of my hotmail account. from my mac? I don't have a Hotmail account. However, try looking under System Preferences - Internet Accounts. A table of accounts should be shown, and you should then be able to select the one you want to remove. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Problems updating my Facebook profile
Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Any thoughts? I guess I could try starting Windows under VMWare but don’t really want to do that. You could try reporting the problem to Facebook. Someone sent me a link to an article recently which claimed that they've been working on their Web site's accessibility, and VoiceOver was mentioned as an example of the assistive technologies their users were relying upon. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Apple Mail question
Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: So what is the technique on Yosemite to access multiple messages in the same conversation? Right arrow to expand the conversation, left arrow to collapse it. Once expanded, your message table is modified to include an entry for each individual message in the thread. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: List of hot keys for OSX?
Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I found a list of VoiceOver keystrokes which is maybe complete. Is there somewhere a list of keystrokes for OSX, as well? http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: help with a terminal error regarding makeinfo
Laurel laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Travis, Thanks so much for your response. I do have the latest version of Xcode, I double checked to make sure. What other tools from the Apple developer website would help me here? I want to make sure I know how to proceed correctly. I realize that this will take me a lot of time and work, but I'm willing to put in the work it takes and put forth the effort to make sure that I do this correctly. If I have to learn how to get the source file and compile it myself, I will do it. :-) I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but you might find it convenient to install Homebrew, which may have a package available for whatever it is that you're trying to get. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: help with a terminal error regarding makeinfo
Laurel laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I got as far as typing in the configure make sudo make install command, only like the 4th one you listed. I have the texinfo-5.2 folder installed fine in terminal, but I can't get any further. When I type in the configure make sudo make install string, here is what I get. checking build system type... Invalid configuration `make': machine `make' not recognized configure: error: /bin/sh build-aux/config.sub make failed The command should be: ./configure make sudo make install --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: a question about sharing files between two partitions
Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote: I could be wrong, but I don't think you can share files between partitions. You can, however, create symbolic links that span file systems. For this to work, the file systems on both partitions need to be mounted. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessible firewall for the mac?
Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: am on the lookout for an accessible firewall preferably free so i can scan and block any applications that I don't want connecting to the Internet and there is a lot of them. http://ikawnoclast.com/security/mac-os-x-pf-firewall-avoiding-known-bad-guys/ and searching the Web for similar articles should start you in the right direction. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessible firewall for the mac?
Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the link. do you know of any apps off the top of your head? It's all built into the operating system according to this and a couple of other articles I found, so no apps required. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessible firewall for the mac?
Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: how do i go about blocking a program from connecting to the net? http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1810 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Closing A Programme Before Deleting It
Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I have Bit Torrant Sinc running and I want to remove it but I cannot remove it from the Applications folder as it is open. http://www.wikihow.com/Force-Quit-an-Application-in-Mac-OS-X --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Should I move to Mavericks?
Ian Harrison harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk wrote: I am looking for opinions as to the pros and cons of upgrading to Mavericks at this time and whether my mac mini will be better or worse with the upgrade. By upgrading, you will receive the latest security-related bug fixes. Prior versions of OS X are not being updated to correct known security vulnerabilities, apparently. The decision is of course yours, but I wouldn't want to take that risk, and remember that other people can be negatively affected if your system is compromised. At the very least, find out what major security issues you are exposed to if you don't upgrade. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Should I move to Mavericks?
Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: I haven't upgraded yet, I only got this Macbook Air a year ago, running Mountain Lion, and wanted to get familiar with it before having to start to learn more new stuff under Mavaricks. One thing I'm not sure of if I upgrade, is if I don't back up my data, will I automatically lose it during the upgrade - No, but you should have a backup anyway before upgrading the system, and indeed you should make backups regularly in case of hardware or software issues that can cause data loss. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: free book on using Mac with voiceover
Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote: Check out this book on iBooks I managed to download the book under iBooks with OS X 10.9.4, and I can read the introduction, but I can't find the table of contents and there are unlabeled buttons in the interface that should be properly labeled. Am I missing something? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: free book on using Mac with voiceover
Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote: I was able to read it just fine. In order to get to the table of contents, double tap on list view, and then swipe to the right threw the options. When you get to the one you want, then double tap and it should begin reading. this works on my iPad, but not under OS X Mavericks, which is where I'm trying to read the book. I'm specifically asking about the OS X version of iBooks, not the iOS version. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: free book on using Mac with voiceover
Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Jason, The current version of iBooks for OS X is not as accessible as you might want. The table of contents can be opened with command-t. You’ll need to turn off cursor tracking, or possibly use the Item Chooser, or another method to choose the section you want. If all goes well, Apple will release 10.10 soon with a more accessible iBooks. Thanks. I'm hoping those issues will be solved in the next release. Meanwhile, I'll follow the above advice. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Administrator priveledges
George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net wrote: What I want to do is create another user on the Mac, what I want to know is, does VoiceOver announce what the users are on the login screen? You have to enable it in Preferences. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Emacs accessibility under OS X
A few notes for those who haven't tried this yet: 1. The graphical (i.e., Cocoa) version of Emacs 24.3 is not accessible with VoiceOver. I can run emacs.app, but VoiceOver only identifies the name of the Emacs buffer. It can't access the text or the echo area of the editor window, for example. 2. Emacs in a terminal is relatively accessible with VoiceOver. (I need this for the benefit of my braille display, hence the interest.) My next step will be to try to get Emacspeak to run, once I've installed the prerequisites and dealt with any problems that arise. 3. If you're using Emacs in a terminal, you have to open the terminal preferences, choose the keyboard tab, and select the checkbox to use the option key as the meta key. Otherwise, pressing the option key in combination with other keys will insert characters into your text instead of invoking Emacs commands. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing the OS X terminal with VoiceOver on a laptop
Christian Schoepplein ch...@schoeppi.net wrote: Thanks for this link. My pleasure. Another solution to have a good system with good support for textbased enviroments is to install a virtual machine with linux and for example speakup. Yes, I have friends who have done this, but they also have other reasons to run virtual machines. I use this aproach at the moment because of the mensioned problems with VO in the terminal, it works good for me, but ofcourse it would be better not to use a vm. Yes, unless you're doing it for other reasons of course. Apparently, BRLTTY can also be made to work in a virtual machine under OS X. Furthermore,,, you can run Linux directly on some Mac hardware, dual-booted with OS X or by completely replacing OS X with Linux. I've never tried this, but I've read about it. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing the OS X terminal with VoiceOver on a laptop
Christian Schoepplein ch...@schoeppi.net wrote: One big issue is, that VoiceOver is not focusing the cursor possition all the times correctly. Try opening a file with vi and navigate in the file with arrow up and down to get spoken the current line. You will see, that VoiceOver sometimes reads the wrong line, sometimes the line above or below. Then try to use a program like mutt, my favorite mail programm :-). Mine too. There you also notice the focusing problems but also that VoiceOver is not able to track a softcursor, which is used in many of textbased tools. Adding the following line to your ~/.muttrc file might help: set braille_friendly=yes Mutt doesn't use a soft-cursor by default anyway. Maybe the problems described above can be solved by changing some settings for VoiceOver or for the terminal, but I've not found out what needs to be changed :-(. But those both problems are the major show stoppers for a good terminal support in Mac OS in my opinion :-(. It looks nasty. I'm a very intensive terminal user and that isn't going to change, so if anyone knows a good solution to the above, suggestions would be welcome. I'm planning to install Emacspeak, but that will only solve it for speech output, not for my braille display. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing the OS X terminal with VoiceOver on a laptop
Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Jason, I also wish to install EmacSpeak if it uses the Apple speech to learn it. Is there a simple how to guide on configuring the Mac and EmacSpeak? http://e-mac-speak.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/e-mac-speak-howto.org The speech server for OS X is included in Emacspeak. I haven't tried to follow these instructions yet, so I don't know whether they're up to date. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Text edit problem
Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: No. it's part of the mac. You cannot download text edit from the mac store. you can however download iText express from the mac app store. I actually use it in place of text edit some times. I also noticed that OS X comes with both Emacs and Vim editors pre-installed. Whichever side you're on in the Emacs vs. Vi text editor debate, you're covered! The pre-installed Emacs is out of date, and for those who care, it's the terminal version, not the full graphical application. I use LaTeX and a text editor instead of a word processor, unless I have to edit a document collaboratively with word processor users. LaTeX does not come pre-installed on the Mac, but you can download MacTeX. Unfortunately, the installer isn't very accessible. Once it's installed, though, pdflatex and other TeX tools are available in /usr/texbin which is automatically added to your search path. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing the OS X terminal with VoiceOver on a laptop
Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Jason and all. The commands you have outlined are standard Linux/Unix commands. They do not control the history of outputs. when I refer to history of outputs, I am not talking about the history of commands. I am talking about when you use vi-up arrow multiple times to review the last outputs that have been printed to the screen. Such as syslog or config files. You cannot move the VO cursor to the beginning or end of the line. Sorry, I actually knew this is what you meant, and I wasn't trying to contradict what you wrote. I should have made this clearer in my reply. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing the OS X terminal with VoiceOver on a laptop
Actually, some of the Emacs keys, such as ctrl-a to move the cursor to the beginning of a line, ctrl-e to move it to the end of a line, ctrl-k to delete from cursor to end of line, ctrl-b and ctrl-f to move back/forward by characters, etc., are supported in OS X, according to this page: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1343 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Accessing the OS X terminal with VoiceOver on a laptop
Dear all, This is my first post to the list, with a new MacBook in hand and an unfamiliar operating system to learn. I'm approaching this from a UNIX background - mostly Linux, but I also had an account on a SUNOS (later Solaris) machine for a number of years. I'm also familiar with both Android and IOS, as well as older operating systems such as MS-DOS, and, going back further, the Apple II, for anyone who remembers DOS 3.3, ProDOS, BEX, WordTalk, etc. What are the most effective ways of reviewing and working with the OS X terminal using VoiceOver, with a braille display and speech? I've searched the list archives, where I found a recommendation to turn on the numpad in the terminal application so as to use the scrollback buffer. However, the keyboard on my laptop, as with almost every laptop that I've ever owned, doesn't include a numeric keypad. Incidentally, the machine is running OS X 10.9.3. What's the optimal way to set this up? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing the OS X terminal with VoiceOver on a laptop
David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: I did google it and apparently the embedded numpad has been withdrawn from recent MacBooks but the following may be of interest that I copied from a Apple support page.result. Thanks. I may be able to achieve what I need with VoiceOver commands - let's see what other Terminal application users think. Of course, if enabling numeric keypad keys turns out to be desirable, it appears there is an option for it - thanks for the reference. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing the OS X terminal with VoiceOver on a laptop
Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Jason, Hello Sean, thank you for the advice (comments below). Commands I use: vo up and down arrow to navigate through the history buffer vo left and right to move by word shift vo left and right is by char of course. vo l - read current line. There isn’t any commands under voice-over that I have found which takes you to the beginning or end of the line in the buffer like there is with Speakup or Window screen readers. And I haven't found any that will take me to the first or last line in the buffer. VoiceOver identifies the buffer as shell text, suggesting that specific support for the terminal has been implemented. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing the OS X terminal with VoiceOver on a laptop
Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net wrote: And I haven't found any that will take me to the first or last line in the buffer. Ctrl-option-fn-left arrow and ctrl-option-fn-right arrow, respectively, move to the top/bottom of the text in the terminal, if I'm understanding correctly. Ctrl-option-b reads from the start of the shell session, i.e., the scrollback buffer, at least in my experiments this evening. If I run, for example, a man command, speech usually stops well before it has read the entire output and I have to go back to review it. The braille display is currently connected to a Linux machine, but I'm going to try it with VoiceOver on the laptop this weekend. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
