Re: [Mac-Access]: an odd issue with vm I can't solve

2015-05-28 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi, I try clicking the file and it says empty HTML content whenever I click on 
the link interact what the site. It's a which means I'm unable to play the 
file. Maybe you might be better off assisting our getting assistance from 
somebody via Skype.
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 On May 28, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I get the feeling someone will have to write me off list as I'm not sure if 
 this is a driver issue, or a vmware issue
 
 I basically can't use control left right to read by word. I'm running vmware 
 7. and I tested all the keyboard profiles to see which one might be the issue 
 but don't really know what to do from here.
 
 Take care and here's the issue in audio form. You will see what I mean by 
 writing me off list when you hear the file.
 
 http://t.co/9eEBZmR2qb 



Re: [Mac-Access]: Phone book app

2015-05-25 Thread Joseph Hudson
I just use the Yellow pages app on ios to look up a number then save it to my 
contacts. or I will use free411.com http://free411.com/ which is a website 
thats a bit cluttered but it works.
 On May 24, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net 
 mailto:jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 USA Texas.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 24, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com mailto:eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am not using any. Where are you living? I am in the UK am I just use our 
 195 telephone directory service.
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 22:13, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net 
 mailto:jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 What phone book app are you guys using?  I had Yellow pages but with each 
 update they seemed to add features that I didn’t need like maps and 
 directions.  
 
 



Re: [Mac-Access]: Please remove my email

2015-05-24 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi, another thing that should need to be fixed is everybody is receiving double 
emails. At least I am on the sand.


Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is the 
best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and making 
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http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org or send a 
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Sent from my iPhone

 On May 24, 2015, at 7:30 AM, April Brown aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Please remove my email
 
 April Brown
 
 
 
 On May 24, 2015, at 5:27 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking 
 still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 


Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi Henry, in his original email, he stated that that was a couple of things 
that need tweaking, I wrote in shortly after he posted his email, and let him 
know that his email got live sent three times so that's probably one of the 
problems and needs to be fixed. For some of you people that is also happening 
as well. Don't know why. If you're also I'm happy I think you should take the 
time to write Gordon a private email off list instead excepting that the list 
is backing go on with your day and be happy that it's back an up And going.
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 On May 24, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Eleanor
 
 Why am I receving three emails from you via this list? Is the moderator not
 aware of this problem?
 
 speak soon
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eleanor Martha Burke [mailto:eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 18:25
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 you are creating your own spam on the list.
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 18:00, Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it wrote:
 
 Please, remove me as well.
 Thanks in advance.
 Angela from Italy
 
 
 Il 24/05/2015 13:43, sadam ahmed ha scritto:
 Hi Gordon,
 
 I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list.
 
 If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
 Email:
 
 sadamahmed1...@icloud.com
 
 Sent from my iPhone.
 
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Re: [SPAM] Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi, it happens often on I guess now it depends on who's writing. The last set 
of emails that came in a BC3 of them.


Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is the 
best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and making 
new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where blind 
and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in communicate. If you were 
interested please subscribe here.
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org or send a 
blank message to

chat-requ...@list.ntxability.org
Sent from my iPhone

 On May 24, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't think Joseph is receiving duplicates either.
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 20:53, Terry Clasper terry.clas...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Well lucky old you because most of the rest of us are!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eleanor Martha Burke [mailto:eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 19:31
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Henry I am not having the same problems that you are having.
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 18:54, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Eleanor
 
 Why am I receving three emails from you via this list? Is the moderator
 not
 aware of this problem?
 
 speak soon
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eleanor Martha Burke [mailto:eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 18:25
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 you are creating your own spam on the list.
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 18:00, Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it
 wrote:
 
 Please, remove me as well.
 Thanks in advance.
 Angela from Italy
 
 
 Il 24/05/2015 13:43, sadam ahmed ha scritto:
 Hi Gordon,
 
 I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list.
 
 If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
 Email:
 
 sadamahmed1...@icloud.com
 
 Sent from my iPhone.
 
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Re: [Mac-Access]: Phone book app

2015-05-24 Thread Joseph Hudson
I've never heard of any other phonebook apps besides Yellow Pages to be honest 
with you.
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 On May 24, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 What phone book app are you guys using?  I had Yellow pages but with each 
 update they seemed to add features that I didn’t need like maps and 
 directions.  



Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-05-24 Thread Joseph Hudson
I was getting those messages like a few months ago before the the messages 
stopped coming to me. and I will try to reply to answer questions, and those 
with a messages that I would get
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 On May 24, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 I'm not necessarily unhappy with the list, but I posted a question a few days 
 ago and I got a message indicating that I was not authorized to post to this 
 list.  Perhaps I'm not the only one who got a similar message.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 24, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 why are you guys also unhappy with the list and wishing to unsubscribe?
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 15:13, Nancy Feldman nancy.feld...@centurylink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Please remove me as well. I tried to unsubscribe, but I didn't see any 
 results.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
 Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 3:27 AM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking 
 still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [Mac-access]: can't turn music off

2015-03-31 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hello, the way to stop and start music on your iPhone and you sure that there's 
not A music app running, a two finger double tap will do this. The screen does 
have to be unlocked for this to happen.
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 On Mar 31, 2015, at 2:51 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 when I was using the ap switcher on my iPhone 4s to close the running aps 
 music started playing.  I switched the phone off and it was still playing on 
 the locked screen.  A friend managed to stop it, how he did it he did not 
 know.  Then later on the music started again when I was in the home screen  . 
  I think its coming from Utube which I have never accessed on that phone to 
 my knowledge.   
 I had to get a neighbour to look at it and with voiceover off he turned the 
 phone on and off and the music stopped.  I have not dared to put the phone on 
 this morning.  What is happening and how can I stop it without having to ask 
 for help.
 Judy 
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[Mac-access]: Test

2015-03-26 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hello, this is just a test to see if my messages are going through I'm getting 
notifications that my address is not a member of this list whenever I clearly 
am.
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Re: [Mac-access]: IOS: copying text from webpages using voiceover and IOS 8.2

2015-03-25 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi, this is why I asked her if she had a keyboard because then she won't have 
to take the time at reading text doing the swipe gestures and things like that 
she can simply use down arrow select all the text grab what text she wants and 
put it into another document if she doesn't need everything in the current 
document
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 On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Quadruple triple tap will always copy the last phrase spoken by Voiceover to 
 the pasteboard.
 So if you read a page with #Voiceover with two finger swipe down that should 
 be copied.
 David Griffith
 
 On 25/03/2015 21:05, Diane Bomare wrote:
 I need to copy and paste text from several web pages, for an urgent project. 
 I have tried pinching, but that only selects a letter, word, or line. Edit 
 is not available on the rotor when viewing a web page.
 
 I need to extract the text so that I can use it as notes for a document, 
 that I am preparing.
 I have also tried doing this with the mac, but will cover that in a separate 
 post. I do have an iPad mini, if anyone know of a way to do this with an 
 iPad, that won't work on the iPhone.
 
 Thanks,
 Diane Bomar
 Sent from my iPhone
 email: bomon...@earthlink.net
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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting and copying text of a web page on a mac

2015-03-25 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi Margaret, some webpages are different some allies you to enable the reader 
and use the down arrow key wall you have the rotors selected lines then you can 
use shifts down arrow to select the text. If this doesn't work without the 
reader is enabled, still have the rotor to lines, and then you shift right 
arrow tell you have everything selected that you want to select.
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 On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can someone tell me how to select and copy text off a web page in Safari 
 using my mac book pro. I have tried to to select and copy text off a web page 
 but it doesn't work. 
 
 Margaret 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Mac-access]: some mail going into spam

2015-03-19 Thread Joseph Hudson
I have no clue, have you tried doing on your email provider's website, in I'm 
shaking it as spam? Most email providers have a place where you can check
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 On Mar 19, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Why is my mail I send to the group going into the Spam folder.  One or 2 
 other emails from the group.  are also going in there too.  I move them back 
 into the In box.
 Judy
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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple mail and contacts.

2015-03-19 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi, I do this by typing the first letter of the person's email address, then 
once one address shows up then I arrow down till I get to the correct address 
that I want.
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 On Mar 19, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Jim Noseworthy 
 jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote:
 
 Hi Folks:
 
 
 
 In Yosemite, how does one insert an address from the contacts in to a new
 mail?
 
 
 
 Thanks all over the place gang.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Finding my place in Text Edit

2015-03-01 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hello, as I am new to the Mac I would like to take a big stab at your question. 
I believe that command F would be the proper way to search and find what you 
are warning in TextEdit as I have not really played around with this 
application I hope this helps.
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 On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 when I have read 10 pages of an 80-page document and shut down the computer, 
 is there a way in text Edit to go back to page 10?  if I remember the topic, 
 would I use command-f?  VO-f?
 
 thanks,
 
 Ann
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pandora for I O S: How in the world! do you delete a station!

2015-02-28 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi, I have reported this problem to Pandora they are aware of the issue and 
they will be fixing these issues hopefully within the latest update. All I know 
is it was turned into the engineers who work on the application.
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 On Feb 28, 2015, at 2:57 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 This is absolutely driving me crazy!  I've practically looked everywhere in 
 the most up to date IPhone version of Pandora, but cannot find anywhere a way 
 to delete a station in Pandora.
 
 The action rotor is gone, so forget flicking down to get to delete when in 
 the stations list.  A Google search revealed that I could swype from right to 
 left to reveal the delete icon, then could tap it.  I tried double tapping, 
 holding, then sliding left on the station like you would normally do to 
 achieve this task, but even that! isn't working.  I did delete a station the 
 other day, but I cannot for the life of me remember how I did it.  And, it 
 might of been in the version right before this current build.  I don't 
 totally remember.  I'm nowhere near my 100 station limmit, but there are some 
 stations which I definitely do not care anymore to have in my account.  I 
 remember deleting a station not being the most obvious, but I just can't 
 recall how I did it.
 
 Please help.
 
 Chris.
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