Re: Slow bootup?

[Josh Gregory]

You could look into that, there might be something that is taking forever. I 
don't know but at this point anything is a possibility.

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> On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Christopher Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> I know, and I desperetly want to.  I just don’t totally know where to start.
> 
> I might have a look at that memory keeper app that was recommended.
> 
> Seeing this is happenning on multiple systems, I’m not totally convinced that 
> the issue is within the hardware of my ram, although, this being said, I 
> wonder if I am consistently across all my systems using an app which is 
> draining my memory.  Although, if that’s the case, then why would it be doing 
> so right when I boot up?  I really don’t honestly have all that much, if 
> anything, in my login items.
> 
> Chris.
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> I know dude, you should probably get that looked into though
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Christopher Gilland  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know you weren’t meaning it rudely.  I was half joking, half serious.  
>>> That said, yeah, I have no idea why it’s taking so long.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, I didn't mean it like that. That's an awful long time though.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:09 PM, "Christopher gilland" 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of corse I'm serious!  I wouldn't a written the list had I not been.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
>>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:20 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What in the… Are you serious?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 2:18 PM, "Christopher gilland" 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did, and they have no clue.  they clame my boot time really isn't 
>>>>>>> that bad.  Come on!  timed:  8 and a half minutes?  I don't freaking 
>>>>>>> think so!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:11 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Actually I meant that for the original poster, halsworth. Yeah there 
>>>>>>>> are 2 chris's  on this post. lol!  Looks like it might be time to call 
>>>>>>>> apple care on this one. good luck.
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Christopher gilland 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I did.  I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear, although I 
>>>>>>>>> thought I had.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:20 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried a full reinstall of mavericks/ I did and although 
>>>>>>>>>> slow, I do see a slight speed increase.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:45 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>

Re: Slow bootup?

[Josh Gregory]

I know dude, you should probably get that looked into though

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> On Mar 27, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Christopher Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> I know you weren’t meaning it rudely.  I was half joking, half serious.  That 
> said, yeah, I have no idea why it’s taking so long.
> 
> Chris.
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Of course, I didn't mean it like that. That's an awful long time though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:09 PM, "Christopher gilland" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Of corse I'm serious!  I wouldn't a written the list had I not been.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> What in the… Are you serious?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 2:18 PM, "Christopher gilland" 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did, and they have no clue.  they clame my boot time really isn't that 
>>>>> bad.  Come on!  timed:  8 and a half minutes?  I don't freaking think so!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Actually I meant that for the original poster, halsworth. Yeah there are 
>>>>>> 2 chris's  on this post. lol!  Looks like it might be time to call apple 
>>>>>> care on this one. good luck.
>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Christopher gilland 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, I did.  I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear, although I thought 
>>>>>>> I had.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:20 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Have you tried a full reinstall of mavericks/ I did and although slow, 
>>>>>>>> I do see a slight speed increase.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:45 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>> my Macbook Pro 2012 model running Os X 10.9.2 is slow booting up. 
>>>>>>>>> Once booted all is well. I'm thinking of doing a clean install as 
>>>>>>>>> never done one since owning this mac nearly two years ago. So should 
>>>>>>>>> I go ahead and do this? My processor is Core I5 and memory is 4 GB. 
>>>>>>>>> Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> Regards Chris
>>>>>>>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: Track Pad Settings

[Josh Gregory]

A little explanation would be helpful here, how do you get widget manager, 
where exactly do you get it from?

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> On Mar 26, 2014, at 4:49 PM, isaac  wrote:
> 
> First you have to install widget manager. Next go in to system preferences 
> then go to widget manager then choose the widgets you want to disable or 
> delete then tab to the move to trash or disable button. Widgets are like 
> iCons to applications such as weather and other apps.
>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Margaret  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you get into widget manager? Can you explain exactly what widget is 
>> used for. I have seen posts talking about widget manager but I have never 
>> worked out what it is all about. 
>> 
>> Margaret 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 27 Mar 2014, at 12:34 am, isaac  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You would go in to widget manager then choose the widgets you want to 
>>> delete  or disable by checking or unchecking the boxes then tab to the 
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Re: Slow bootup?

[Josh Gregory]

Of course, I didn't mean it like that. That's an awful long time though.

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> On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:09 PM, "Christopher gilland"  
> wrote:
> 
> Of corse I'm serious!  I wouldn't a written the list had I not been.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Slow bootup?
> 
> 
>> What in the… Are you serious?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 2:18 PM, "Christopher gilland" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did, and they have no clue.  they clame my boot time really isn't that 
>>> bad.  Come on!  timed:  8 and a half minutes?  I don't freaking think so!
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Actually I meant that for the original poster, halsworth. Yeah there are 2 
>>>> chris's  on this post. lol!  Looks like it might be time to call apple 
>>>> care on this one. good luck.
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Christopher gilland 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I did.  I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear, although I thought I 
>>>>> had.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:20 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you tried a full reinstall of mavericks/ I did and although slow, I 
>>>>>> do see a slight speed increase.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:45 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>> my Macbook Pro 2012 model running Os X 10.9.2 is slow booting up. Once 
>>>>>>> booted all is well. I'm thinking of doing a clean install as never done 
>>>>>>> one since owning this mac nearly two years ago. So should I go ahead 
>>>>>>> and do this? My processor is Core I5 and memory is 4 GB. Any responses 
>>>>>>> greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>>>>>>> Regards Chris
>>>>>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Slow bootup?

[Josh Gregory]

What in the… Are you serious?

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> On Mar 26, 2014, at 2:18 PM, "Christopher gilland"  
> wrote:
> 
> I did, and they have no clue.  they clame my boot time really isn't that bad. 
>  Come on!  timed:  8 and a half minutes?  I don't freaking think so!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Slow bootup?
> 
> 
>> Actually I meant that for the original poster, halsworth. Yeah there are 2 
>> chris's  on this post. lol!  Looks like it might be time to call apple care 
>> on this one. good luck.
>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Christopher gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I did.  I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear, although I thought I 
>>> had.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup?
>>> 
>>> 
 Have you tried a full reinstall of mavericks/ I did and although slow, I 
 do see a slight speed increase.
 
 Take care.
> On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:45 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> my Macbook Pro 2012 model running Os X 10.9.2 is slow booting up. Once 
> booted all is well. I'm thinking of doing a clean install as never done 
> one since owning this mac nearly two years ago. So should I go ahead and 
> do this? My processor is Core I5 and memory is 4 GB. Any responses 
> greatly appreciated. Thanks!
> Regards Chris
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
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Re: Track Pad Settings

[Josh Gregory]

Oh very good, thanks.

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> On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:26 PM, chris Apple Boy  
> wrote:
> 
> Open the Dashboard and then open the Window Chooser menu it should be in 
> there.
> Regards Chris
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>> On 26 Mar 2014, at 14:46, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Right… Where is the widget manager?
>> 
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>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:34 AM, isaac  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You would go in to widget manager then choose the widgets you want to 
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Re: Track Pad Settings

[Josh Gregory]

Right… Where is the widget manager?

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> On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:34 AM, isaac  wrote:
> 
> You would go in to widget manager then choose the widgets you want to delete  
> or disable by checking or unchecking the boxes then tab to the disable button 
> to disable the widget or move to trash to remove the widget.
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Re: Track Pad Settings

[Josh Gregory]

Howard you go about doing this?

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> On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:25 AM, isaac  wrote:
> 
> To remove a wigit
> first check or uncheck the boxes of the wig its you want to disable or remove 
> then choose the option move to trash or disable.On Mar 26, 2014, at 8:08 AM, 
> isaac  wrote:
> 
>> The wigit t manager allows you to   remove and d 
>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Eleanor Burke  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What does a widget manager do?
>>> - Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Track Pad Settings
>>> 
>>> 
 The Dashboard is the widget manager. I leave the Dashboard short cut 
 enabled.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
> On 26 Mar 2014, at 09:21, Eleanor Burke  
> wrote:
> 
> What is the function of the dash board?
> - Original Message - From: "Ben J Bloomgren" 
> 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Track Pad Settings
> 
> 
>> Is there a way to disable the mission control without disabling the 
>> dashboard.
>> 
>> Ben J. Bloomgren
>> 
>> Manager
>> CLG Productions
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>> holidays.
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:15, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Eleanor,
>>> 
>>> Mission Control is a way of managing open applications and organising 
>>> them into Spaces. Since VoiceOver does not take account of Spaces 
>>> (groups of applications used together for a given task), Mission 
>>> Control is useless to us. So this is why I disable Mission Control on 
>>> my computer.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
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 wrote:
 
 fair point but do I not need mission control
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Re: Skype on the Mac

[Josh Gregory]

Actually no, a little bit of misinformation, there is a checkbox on the Sign in 
 screen to remember your password and stuff. Or at least there was the last 
time I did it.

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> On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:44 AM, isaac  wrote:
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> Yes that is the case you will have to sign in to Skype every time.
>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Eleanor Burke  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Isaac, I was told in the Apple store that I would have to sign in to 
>> Skype every time on the Mac Book Air.  They said this was a security thing. 
>> Is this the case?
>> 
>> Eleanor
>> - Original Message - From: "isaac" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac
>> 
>> 
>>> To answer a call  when vo tells you that you have a call and when the Skype 
>>> window comes up then vo right to the accept button and the call will start.
 On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:15 PM, Margaret  wrote:
 
 How do you answer a call?
 
 Margaret
 
 
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> On 25 Mar 2014, at 12:49 am, isaac  wrote:
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> To hang up call just press command shift h.
>> On Mar 24, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
>>  wrote:
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>> speaking of skype on the mac, how do you hang up on a call?
>> thanks!
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Mar 24, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Eleanor Burke 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you for this Sarah.
>>> 
>>> Eleanor
>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>> 
>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 2:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac
>>> 
>>> 
 to learn the basics of skype for mac see this link.
 
 http://www.tffppodcast.com/looking-at-skype-5-for-mac/
 
 95 percent of the concepts will stay the same as skype 6 looks almost 
 like skype 5. the only difference will be the grid that's shown. in 
 skype 6. the concept will how ever remain the same.
 
 Hth.
> On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Matthew Carello  
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> Hello there. If you are logged into it on the mac and then sign into 
> it on another device it will sign you out. There should be a checkbox 
> or something that says keep me signed  in or something like that or 
> remember password.
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>> Can I keep logged in to Skype on my Mac?  I have to enter my 
>> Password every time I wish to use it on the Mac.  How do I use Skype 
>> on the Mac? Is there a podcast on this?  I know how Skype comes up 
>> on my iPad Mini and iPhone but it does not seem to come up like this 
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Re: problems with iBooks on the mac.

[Josh Gregory]

Very strange indeed, but regardless, some of the buttons and things are 
unlabeled, this might seem trivial to summon that is fine, but it does impact 
Usability by just a little bit

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Re: problems with iBooks on the mac.

[Josh Gregory]

Sarah, completely agree, I don't really use iBooks that often but if it became 
more accessible I might give it a shot

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> Tha'ts what I hear, and actually that's whats holding my adeneum up. I have 2 
> files out, but yeah ibooks really needs  to become better. 'm quite surprised 
> that if there were beta testers of this software who were visually impaired 
> that they either never reported the troubles, which is unlikely,, or apple 
> never pays attention and they have done the we're working on it and we'll 
> forward it dance. which is more likely.
> 
> Take care.
>> On Mar 24, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
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>> This program is not quite accessible yet with an OS X, from what we know 
>> they're working to fix it
>> 
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>>> Hi all, don’t know if anyone can help with this. I seem to be having a 
>>> problem with ibooks on the mac. When I read some of my books it will start 
>>> reading then keep saying text text text. Then after scrolling threw it’ll 
>>> then start reading other bits of the book having failed to read the bits 
>>> before it. These certain books read fine on my iPhone so I don’t get why 
>>> this is happening.
>>> 
>>> wonder if anyone can give me any help or suggestions.
>>> 
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Re: problems with iBooks on the mac.

[Josh Gregory]

This program is not quite accessible yet with an OS X, from what we know 
they're working to fix it

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> Hi all, don’t know if anyone can help with this. I seem to be having a 
> problem with ibooks on the mac. When I read some of my books it will start 
> reading then keep saying text text text. Then after scrolling threw it’ll 
> then start reading other bits of the book having failed to read the bits 
> before it. These certain books read fine on my iPhone so I don’t get why this 
> is happening.
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> wonder if anyone can give me any help or suggestions.
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> Thanks very much.
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Re: Reminder Regarding List Policy

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Come on really?  they're not bad people but don't enable people like that, they 
should at least do research  first.

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Re: Chrome Vox and bookmarks

[josh gregory]

Actually I don't think you can, you have to get it from chrome.google.com.

On 3/21/14, isaac  wrote:
> Yes you can get crome from the app store.
> On Mar 21, 2014, at 10:31 AM, wayne17a  wrote:
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>>  Hi all do you get chrome from the app store thanks in advance
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Juaanita Marttin
>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:06 AM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Chrome Vox and bookmarks
>>
>> Oh, I thought that just worked for Safari's bookmarks. My bad.  Got it
>> working now.  Thanks.
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Christopher gilland
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Are they not up in your menu bar?  Can you not hit vo+M to go to the
>>> menu
>> bar, then vo+right arrow over to your bookmarks menu?
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Juaanita Marttin"
>> 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:59 PM
>>> Subject: Chrome Vox and bookmarks
>>>
>>>
 Chrome Vox is pretty cool.  My question is still:
 How do you get to the bookmarks from within it?
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Re: Chrome Web Store - ChromeVox

[Josh Gregory]

That was me, thanks a lot.

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> On Mar 21, 2014, at 9:29 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
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> I’m not sure yet, still figuring it out but it is definitely a keeper for me. 
> To the person who asked how I found the American-English Google TTS voice, I 
> went to the Options page of Chromevox by hitting Command-Control-O and then O 
> by itself. All the voices are listed there. This page only seems to come up 
> if you already have a website open in Chrome, but I’m going to do some more 
> with it today or this weekend.
> Jake
> JAKE JOEHL
> jajo...@att.net
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2014, at 3:14 AM, Chris Apple boy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> Can we use Os X's system voice with ChromeVox? I have it set to British 
>> English Daniel. Thanks!
>> 
>> Regards Chris
>> 
>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>> 
>>> On 21/03/2014 01:49, JAKE JOEHL wrote:
>>> Hi everyone. I’ve been playing around with Chromevox a bit, and I love it. 
>>> I just found the Google American-English voice, I think Grizelda is her 
>>> name. She doesn’t sound that bad. A bit snobbish perhaps, but I still like 
>>> her. I wonder if she has any relation to Grizelda of the now-defunct 
>>> eVoice? I’m going to play with Chromevox some more, but I think Google 
>>> really did a nice job with it and I told them so over in one of their 
>>> discussion groups.
>>> Jake
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:11 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
 
 Hi everyone. I’m trying to install Chromevox but I think I’m a bit lost. 
 The Chromevox website at http://www.chromevox.com  says to activate the 
 “Add to Chrome” button, but I’m not finding that. Where might I be going 
 astray here?  Here is where I went to try and get Chromevox.
 Jake
 
 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromevox/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn
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Re: Chrome Web Store - ChromeVox

[Josh Gregory]

Yes you can, I think it is somewhere in Chromevox's preferences.

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> On Mar 21, 2014, at 4:14 AM, Chris Apple boy  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> Can we use Os X's system voice with ChromeVox? I have it set to British 
> English Daniel. Thanks!
> 
> Regards Chris
> 
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
> 
>> On 21/03/2014 01:49, JAKE JOEHL wrote:
>> Hi everyone. I’ve been playing around with Chromevox a bit, and I love it. I 
>> just found the Google American-English voice, I think Grizelda is her name. 
>> She doesn’t sound that bad. A bit snobbish perhaps, but I still like her. I 
>> wonder if she has any relation to Grizelda of the now-defunct eVoice? I’m 
>> going to play with Chromevox some more, but I think Google really did a nice 
>> job with it and I told them so over in one of their discussion groups.
>> Jake
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:11 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone. I’m trying to install Chromevox but I think I’m a bit lost. 
>>> The Chromevox website at http://www.chromevox.com  says to activate the 
>>> “Add to Chrome” button, but I’m not finding that. Where might I be going 
>>> astray here?  Here is where I went to try and get Chromevox.
>>> Jake
>>> 
>>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromevox/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn
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Re: Chrome Web Store - ChromeVox

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Hi, how did you find the voice?

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> On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:49 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone. I’ve been playing around with Chromevox a bit, and I love it. I 
> just found the Google American-English voice, I think Grizelda is her name. 
> She doesn’t sound that bad. A bit snobbish perhaps, but I still like her. I 
> wonder if she has any relation to Grizelda of the now-defunct eVoice? I’m 
> going to play with Chromevox some more, but I think Google really did a nice 
> job with it and I told them so over in one of their discussion groups.
> Jake
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:11 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone. I’m trying to install Chromevox but I think I’m a bit lost. The 
>> Chromevox website at http://www.chromevox.com  says to activate the “Add to 
>> Chrome” button, but I’m not finding that. Where might I be going astray 
>> here?  Here is where I went to try and get Chromevox.
>> Jake
>> 
>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromevox/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn
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Re: Demo Of The Logitech UE Boombox

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Very nice, sounds very pleasurable to the ear.

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> On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:31 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
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> Here it is folks as requested and I apologies if the quality is lacking a 
> little here as the recording was rushed but I think you'll get the general 
> idea, the Logitech Boombox does indeed Boom!
> 
> If link doesn't work the first time then try again in a few minutes, file may 
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

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You can use the voiceover search function and try to find the text that the 
link contains…

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> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:25 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes but what I want is to cut time and instead of arrowing down through all 
> the links say, I want to ump to link 10 is there a way of doing that?
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
> 
> 
>> Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, you 
>> can just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter options
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate 
>>> this way with the arrow keys?
>>> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up arrows 
>>>> together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the up-and-down arrows 
>>>> to navigate through the selected elements. To go.back aPage, press command 
>>>> and the left bracket key together, to go forward, command and the right 
>>>> bracket together.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
>>>>> effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
>>>>> navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the 
>>>>> only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 
>>>>> presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are no 
>>>>> headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I can 
>>>>> bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, 
>>>>> headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these 
>>>>> just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and want 
>>>>> to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows machine 
>>>>> with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.
>>>>> 
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Re: poor results tap tap see

[Josh Gregory]

It might depend on how you are placing the object.

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> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:19 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
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> hi all i note that with tap tap see when one pays for the credits, and a tin 
> is canned half the time it is not telling us what is in the said tin for 
> example so why pay for credits, when half to hem are wasting away it seems, 
> to determine one or two objects?
> i am getting the focus beep for the image on my 4s but find it off putting 
> that chargeable credits are being used when to me, if you a re charging for 
> the service, shouldn't a first time approach be guaranteed?
> sighted people know what an object is first time usually without having to 
> keep re-examining it
> just my thoughts
> william
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

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Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, you can 
just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter options

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> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
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> 
> Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate this 
> way with the arrow keys?
> ----- Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
> 
> 
>> Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up  arrows 
>> together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the up-and-down arrows to 
>> navigate through the selected elements. To go.back aPage, press command and 
>> the left bracket key together, to go forward, command and the right bracket 
>> together.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
>>> effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
>>> navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the 
>>> only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 
>>> presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are no 
>>> headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I can 
>>> bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, headings 
>>> etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these just gives 
>>> me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and want to go back I 
>>> do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows machine with a 2 key 
>>> press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

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Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up  arrows 
together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the up-and-down arrows to 
navigate through the selected elements. To go.back aPage, press command and the 
left bracket key together, to go forward, command and the right bracket 
together.

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> On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
> wrote:
> 
> I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an effecient 
> manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that navagating by 
> single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the only way I am able 
> to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 presses of it will take 
> me to the 10th link, that is if there are no headings in between, in which 
> case it will take me even longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and 
> this tells me how many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once 
> or twice on any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to 
> another web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick 
> on a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.
> 
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Re: Radio Volume and VO Volume

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If no such slider exists, I'm not sure there is a way to do this.

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> On Mar 18, 2014, at 10:09 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
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> I am talking about listening to radio via Safari.  I would be using the BBC 
> iPlayer and there will be a volume slider on it so that I would be increasing 
> radio volume rather than also increasing voice over volume.
> - Original Message - From: "JAKE JOEHL" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Radio Volume and VO Volume
> 
> 
> If you’re talking about iTunes Radio, command-up arrow will increase the 
> volume, and command-down arrow will decrease it. I’m not sure how to do this 
> in any other apps as I haven’t tried them yet. Hth.
> Jake
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> 
> 
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>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:54 AM, Eleanor Burke  
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>> If I am listening to the radio and want to increase the volume, how do I do 
>> this independent of the voice over volume please?
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Re: Gesture for slide to stop

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Just out of curiosity, what app is this?

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> On Mar 18, 2014, at 10:54 AM, isaac  wrote:
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> Have you tried double tapping and holding while you slide?
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> I am running the latest IOS 6 on my iPhone 3GS. 
>> 
>> One of my favourite apps has a button which VO voices as "slide to stop". Is 
>> there a gesture which will achieve this? I have tried double tapping and 
>> flicking in all directions with 1 finger and with 2 fingers but to no 
>> effect. the only way I can stop the app is to go to the app switcher and use 
>> the gesture to kill the app there.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any tips
>> 
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Re: Adium as of today

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No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come like 
that by default

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> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Chris Apple boy  wrote:
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> How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't like 
> the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online. If they're 
> connected then to me they're online or in some other status other than 
> offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as well as their 
> actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments greatly appreciated.
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Re: Reading eBraille Files On A Mac Or IOS Device

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Thanks much it's greatly appreciated.

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>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> 
>> Hey wait a minute… Is this NFB thing free?
> 
> Yah, and you can download it from my softcon mac pages at 
> http://www.softcon.com/mac/
> hth.
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Re: Totally strange problem with the Facebook I O S app

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  don't worry dude I get it. But even with the sound on it hasn't worked for me.

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> On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:28 PM, "Christopher Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> I dono, Josh.  The options are definitely there to enable them, so if that's 
> the case, how do you figure they took them out?  I'm not trying to challenge 
> you're statement.  Don't mistake my point.  I'm only asking totally out of 
> curiosity, so I can better understand.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Totally strange problem with the Facebook I O S app
> 
> 
>> I believe they took out the notification and vibrate sounds a while ago. 
>> Yeah I know vibration isn't a sound but you get what I mean.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:27 PM, "Christopher Gilland" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, this is really strange.  All of a sudden, I seem to have completely 
>>> lost Facebook notification sounds.  If I use Siri, I do hear the swoosh 
>>> sound, but otherwise, I get nothing.  For instance, I wrote something on my 
>>> wall earlier.  I've been getting comments left and right.  I know I have, 
>>> as my phone's been sitting on the desk right here in front of me, and I 
>>> heard Voiceover speak when the screen unlocked due to the push notification 
>>> of a new comment.  This however said, I don't get the tri-tone sound, nor 
>>> do I get any other sound at all.  Come to think of it, I don't even get any 
>>> vibration alerts either from Facebook.  This is driving me absolutely 
>>> crazy! I'm a very! advanced I O S user, and you'd think that there wouldn't 
>>> be anything I've missed.  Pretty much, the only thing I've not done is to 
>>> uninstall, and reinstall the app.  That's probably gonna be the next thing 
>>> on my checklist to try, unless you guys have any other ideas.  Here's what 
>>> I've tried so far.  Actu
 al
>> ly, before I get to that though, come to think of it, I don't know that 
>> reinstalling would help, as now that I think of it, I'm having the exact 
>> same problem on my IPad, as well as on my IPhone.  So it's not apparently 
>> installation specific.
>>> 
>>> Anyhow, here's what I've so far done to trouble shoot this.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Make absolutely sure I'm not on silent/vibrate mode, and I'm not.
>>> 
>>> 2.  reboot the device.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Press home and sleep for several seconds and let the phone hard reset.
>>> 
>>> 4.  Close the app from the app switcher, and relaunch it.  No good.
>>> 
>>> 5.  Clear all FB notifications from Notification center just in case 
>>> something's hung up.  NO good.
>>> 
>>> 6.  Made sure sounds were enabled for FB alerts, and they are.
>>> 
>>> 7.  Make sure vibrate alerts are enabled for FB, and they are.
>>> 
>>> 8.  Make sure push notifications for comments are enabled.  They definitely 
>>> are.
>>> 
>>> 9.  Make sure Facebook is set to sounds on, and it is.
>>> 
>>> 10.  toggle the sound settings off then back on to refresh things.
>>> 
>>> 11.  Plug in headphones to see if the sound mysteriously is getting routed 
>>> through there even though nothing's plugged in.  Not the case.
>>> 
>>> 12.  Make sure Facebook is set to show on the notification center, and the 
>>> lock screen.  It is.
>>> 
>>> 13.  Read the compatibility notes on the app store page to be sure I O S 
>>> 7.1 is supported.  Though it doesn't directly say it is, it doesn't 
>>> directly say it's not either.
>>> 
>>> 14.  Made sure the Facebook app is set to sounds, alerts, bannars.  It was.
>>> 
>>> 15.  Enable badges for the Facebook app.  I know this shouldn't make a 
>>> difference, but I did so anyway, just in case.
>>> 
>>> 16.  Made sure there was no update to the app that needed to be installed. 
>>> There definitely isn't.
>>> 
>>> So, yeah, on I O S 7.1.  I don't think however this worked in 7.0 either. I 
>>> kind a remember them being broken there too, although I didn't use the app 
>>> much until very very recently, so at that time, I honestly didn't really 
>>&g

Re: Totally strange problem with the Facebook I O S app

[Josh Gregory]

I believe they took out the notification and vibrate sounds a while ago. Yeah I 
know vibration isn't a sound but you get what I mean.

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> On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:27 PM, "Christopher Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK, this is really strange.  All of a sudden, I seem to have completely lost 
> Facebook notification sounds.  If I use Siri, I do hear the swoosh sound, but 
> otherwise, I get nothing.  For instance, I wrote something on my wall 
> earlier.  I've been getting comments left and right.  I know I have, as my 
> phone's been sitting on the desk right here in front of me, and I heard 
> Voiceover speak when the screen unlocked due to the push notification of a 
> new comment.  This however said, I don't get the tri-tone sound, nor do I get 
> any other sound at all.  Come to think of it, I don't even get any vibration 
> alerts either from Facebook.  This is driving me absolutely crazy! I'm a 
> very! advanced I O S user, and you'd think that there wouldn't be anything 
> I've missed.  Pretty much, the only thing I've not done is to uninstall, and 
> reinstall the app.  That's probably gonna be the next thing on my checklist 
> to try, unless you guys have any other ideas.  Here's what I've tried so far. 
>  Actual
 ly, before I get to that though, come to think of it, I don't know that 
reinstalling would help, as now that I think of it, I'm having the exact same 
problem on my IPad, as well as on my IPhone.  So it's not apparently 
installation specific.
> 
> Anyhow, here's what I've so far done to trouble shoot this.
> 
> 1.  Make absolutely sure I'm not on silent/vibrate mode, and I'm not.
> 
> 2.  reboot the device.
> 
> 3.  Press home and sleep for several seconds and let the phone hard reset.
> 
> 4.  Close the app from the app switcher, and relaunch it.  No good.
> 
> 5.  Clear all FB notifications from Notification center just in case 
> something's hung up.  NO good.
> 
> 6.  Made sure sounds were enabled for FB alerts, and they are.
> 
> 7.  Make sure vibrate alerts are enabled for FB, and they are.
> 
> 8.  Make sure push notifications for comments are enabled.  They definitely 
> are.
> 
> 9.  Make sure Facebook is set to sounds on, and it is.
> 
> 10.  toggle the sound settings off then back on to refresh things.
> 
> 11.  Plug in headphones to see if the sound mysteriously is getting routed 
> through there even though nothing's plugged in.  Not the case.
> 
> 12.  Make sure Facebook is set to show on the notification center, and the 
> lock screen.  It is.
> 
> 13.  Read the compatibility notes on the app store page to be sure I O S 7.1 
> is supported.  Though it doesn't directly say it is, it doesn't directly say 
> it's not either.
> 
> 14.  Made sure the Facebook app is set to sounds, alerts, bannars.  It was.
> 
> 15.  Enable badges for the Facebook app.  I know this shouldn't make a 
> difference, but I did so anyway, just in case.
> 
> 16.  Made sure there was no update to the app that needed to be installed. 
> There definitely isn't.
> 
> So, yeah, on I O S 7.1.  I don't think however this worked in 7.0 either.  I 
> kind a remember them being broken there too, although I didn't use the app 
> much until very very recently, so at that time, I honestly didn't really 
> think about it to much, nor really care too much about it.  I hate to think 
> I'm gonna have to get a different FB app, but if I can't have audible alert 
> tones for my notifications, then I'm sorry, but that's a dealbreaker.  And, 
> quite a big one, if I may say myself.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Chris. 
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Re: Reading eBraille Files On A Mac Or IOS Device

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Hey wait a minute… Is this NFB thing free?

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> I just download the braille file, and use the nfb translator to backtranslate 
> to ascii text.  I then load it into text edit, and save as file format of my 
> choice.  Sometimes, cleanup is necessary (such as replacing 60 with 
> exclamation point and quote, but generally the errors aren't enough to cause 
> me major difficulties.
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Re: New Voice Synthsiser For OSX

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LOL sorry but I really doubt it, the iPhone is more of a closed system than the 
Mac is.

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> On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:22 AM, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
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> ah, man, I wonder if we'll get that for the iPhonhe, at some point? Now, 
> that would be cool.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Brenda
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> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:21 PM
> Subject: New Voice Synthsiser For OSX
> 
> 
> http://allinaccess.com/software/
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Wine

[Josh Gregory]

Hi,
I had wine a while back… And it says it's supposed to make Mac applications of 
Windows things, or that was when I had it a while ago.
What is it really meant for?
Is it accessible? I had it a while ago and could never really figure it out.
Thanks.

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Re: Transferring Music to Mac

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Depends on what you mean, you can transferred over to your Mac and it will 
automatically open an iTunes

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> On Mar 9, 2014, at 3:28 PM, "Eleanor Burke"  
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> Do I have to go through iTunes to do this or can I simply transfer over the 
> music folder from my USB Flash drive? 
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Re: iMessage

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Oh nice, I wasn't aware of that.

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> On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Yeah. Dane was talking about the mac.
> 
> Ios, the videos have been increased to around 3 or 4 minutes, that I have not 
> tested, but I did send a 20 minute long voice memo just a few days ago to 
> someone as they needed me to go over something and all they could do was a 
> lecture like style.
> 
> Take care.
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps we are thinking of different things here? I am referring to iOS. You 
>> seem to be referring to Mac.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No it's been the case since iMessage came out in 2012 under mountain lion.  
>>> I sent audios videos, ogg files, pictures, text files and once a contract 
>>> pasted in to see if I could make the app freeze.  So far I could not.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sarah, perhaps they changed this more recently. Last time I tried it was 
>>>> only 30 seconds.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Actually that's not true.  I can send up to 100 mb of a voice memo and 
>>>>> that is about 3 hours. I've tested this.  Iv'e also sent 4 minute long 
>>>>> videos with out trouble. Not much but there you go.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, yes, this is correct. And video  will be compressed down to 30 
>>>>>> seconds, and you can send voice memos, but I believe the same 32nd rule 
>>>>>> applies for those as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 2:14 PM, alberto  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Video and picks yes and audio don’t know.  I think only voice memos.
>>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Dane Trethowan  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I know you can send text messages, can you send audio and Video like 
>>>>>>>> you can with Skype?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 7 Mar 2014, at 3:42 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No iMessages goes through apple's servers skipping the carrier 
>>>>>>>>> intirely. This is how you can send an iMessage through let;s say an 
>>>>>>>>> iPod or iPad device. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> iMessage is quite was to use on the mac. In fact the interface looks 
>>>>>>>>> a little bit like adiums in that not eft is your message area where 
>>>>>>>>> text is and not he firhg tiright is the text area wherein you type 
>>>>>>>>> the > wrote: message and your motes and stuff.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've been using iMessage lately and its a sure improvement on the 
>>>>>>>>>> standard SMS so I'm wondering if someone can give me more detail on 
>>>>>>>>>> how the system works, does iMessage actually send text through the 
>>>>>>>>>> standard SMS services in text chunks or what.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm using iMessage on my IOS devices so just how easy is it to use 
>>>>>>>>>> on a Mac using OSX?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: iMessage

[Josh Gregory]

Perhaps we are thinking of different things here? I am referring to iOS. You 
seem to be referring to Mac.

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> On Mar 7, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> No it's been the case since iMessage came out in 2012 under mountain lion.  I 
> sent audios videos, ogg files, pictures, text files and once a contract 
> pasted in to see if I could make the app freeze.  So far I could not.
> 
> Take care.
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Sarah, perhaps they changed this more recently. Last time I tried it was 
>> only 30 seconds.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually that's not true.  I can send up to 100 mb of a voice memo and that 
>>> is about 3 hours. I've tested this.  Iv'e also sent 4 minute long videos 
>>> with out trouble. Not much but there you go.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, yes, this is correct. And video  will be compressed down to 30 
>>>> seconds, and you can send voice memos, but I believe the same 32nd rule 
>>>> applies for those as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 2:14 PM, alberto  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Video and picks yes and audio don’t know.  I think only voice memos.
>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Dane Trethowan  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know you can send text messages, can you send audio and Video like you 
>>>>>> can with Skype?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7 Mar 2014, at 3:42 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No iMessages goes through apple's servers skipping the carrier 
>>>>>>> intirely. This is how you can send an iMessage through let;s say an 
>>>>>>> iPod or iPad device. 
>>>>>>> 
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Re: iMessage

[Josh Gregory]

Sarah, perhaps they changed this more recently. Last time I tried it was only 
30 seconds.

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> On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Actually that's not true.  I can send up to 100 mb of a voice memo and that 
> is about 3 hours. I've tested this.  Iv'e also sent 4 minute long videos with 
> out trouble. Not much but there you go.
> 
> Take care.
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, yes, this is correct. And video  will be compressed down to 30 seconds, 
>> and you can send voice memos, but I believe the same 32nd rule applies for 
>> those as well.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 2:14 PM, alberto  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Video and picks yes and audio don’t know.  I think only voice memos.
>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Dane Trethowan  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I know you can send text messages, can you send audio and Video like you 
>>>> can with Skype?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7 Mar 2014, at 3:42 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> No iMessages goes through apple's servers skipping the carrier intirely. 
>>>>> This is how you can send an iMessage through let;s say an iPod or iPad 
>>>>> device. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> iMessage is quite was to use on the mac. In fact the interface looks a 
>>>>> little bit like adiums in that not eft is your message area where text is 
>>>>> and not he firhg tiright is the text area wherein you type the > wrote: 
>>>>> message and your motes and stuff.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've been using iMessage lately and its a sure improvement on the 
>>>>>> standard SMS so I'm wondering if someone can give me more detail on how 
>>>>>> the system works, does iMessage actually send text through the standard 
>>>>>> SMS services in text chunks or what.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm using iMessage on my IOS devices so just how easy is it to use on a 
>>>>>> Mac using OSX?
>>>>>> 
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Re: iMessage

[Josh Gregory]

Hi, yes, this is correct. And video  will be compressed down to 30 seconds, and 
you can send voice memos, but I believe the same 32nd rule applies for those as 
well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2014, at 2:14 PM, alberto  wrote:
> 
> Video and picks yes and audio don’t know.  I think only voice memos.
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> I know you can send text messages, can you send audio and Video like you can 
>> with Skype?
>> 
>>> On 7 Mar 2014, at 3:42 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No iMessages goes through apple's servers skipping the carrier intirely. 
>>> This is how you can send an iMessage through let;s say an iPod or iPad 
>>> device. 
>>> 
>>> iMessage is quite was to use on the mac. In fact the interface looks a 
>>> little bit like adiums in that not eft is your message area where text is 
>>> and not he firhg tiright is the text area wherein you type the > wrote: 
>>> message and your motes and stuff.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> 
 Hi!
 
 I've been using iMessage lately and its a sure improvement on the standard 
 SMS so I'm wondering if someone can give me more detail on how the system 
 works, does iMessage actually send text through the standard SMS services 
 in text chunks or what.
 
 I'm using iMessage on my IOS devices so just how easy is it to use on a 
 Mac using OSX?
 
 
 
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Re: I Pods third or fourth generation

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And it's even slower than the fourth… Sorry.

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> On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:09 AM, alberto  wrote:
> 
> The 3rd is slower and I believe runs  iOS 6 on it.
>> On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:00 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Fourth-generation is quite sluggish at best, not sure about the third.
>> 
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>>> thinking about buying either a third or fourth generation I Pod. I was 
>>> wondering what is the difference between the two?  Does Voice over work as 
>>> well on both of the machines?  I saw what looks like a good deal on either 
>>> one.  I was told that siri was only on the fifth generation I Pod.  I can 
>>> work with that.  anyway, I appreciate hearing from you and it is good to be 
>>> back on the list.
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Re: I Pods third or fourth generation

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Fourth-generation is quite sluggish at best, not sure about the third.

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> It is good to be back.  but, getting to the point of this message, I was 
> thinking about buying either a third or fourth generation I Pod. I was 
> wondering what is the difference between the two?  Does Voice over work as 
> well on both of the machines?  I saw what looks like a good deal on either 
> one.  I was told that siri was only on the fifth generation I Pod.  I can 
> work with that.  anyway, I appreciate hearing from you and it is good to be 
> back on the list.
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> 
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Re: Little Snitch for Mac

[Josh Gregory]

Yeah, blind people using technology as a security risk? Whatever… I digress.

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> On Mar 2, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, sounds like an excuse for the developer  to not make his app 
> accessible. voice over  a security wrist? I don't think so. 
> 
> Tc all.
> Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of Alawami productions: where quality is 
> key. Check us out on the web at http://alawamiproductions.com/listen
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> VoiceOver a security risk? That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Bryan Jones  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Lynne,
>>> 
>>> In February 2011 I contacted Objective Development, the Developers of 
>>> Little Snitch, to ask about VO compatibility. I’ve pasted their response 
>>> below. I have not tried Little Snitch in a couple of years; thus, I cannot 
>>> say whether these same instructions will work for the current version of 
>>> Little Snitch running under the latest versions of MacOS.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Bryan
>>> 
>>> Begin response from Objective Development Customer Support:
>>> 
>>> "Little Snitch can be used with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately VoiceOver can present a security risk, because it makes one 
>>> app controllable by another app. That is why controlling Little Snitch via 
>>> VoiceOver is disabled by default.
>>> 
>>> You would need to ask a seeing person to enable the preferences setting 
>>> "Allow GUI Scripting access to Little Snitch" in the "Security" tab of the 
>>> preferences in the Little Snitch Configuration application.
>>> 
>>> You might then want to disable this option: In the preferences tab 
>>> "Monitor", the setting "Show automatically on network activity" - 
>>> otherwise the Network Monitor will be much too chatty :) "
>>> 
>>> End response from Objective Development.
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> If anybody knows of a way to configure this with VoiceOver, please share 
>>>> the info. I’d love to be wrong on this occasion. But our testing has shown 
>>>> no accessibility whatsoever with the exception of the installer and 
>>>> uninstaller utilities.
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Re: Little Snitch for Mac

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VoiceOver a security risk? That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard.

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> 
> Hello Lynne,
> 
> In February 2011 I contacted Objective Development, the Developers of Little 
> Snitch, to ask about VO compatibility. I’ve pasted their response below. I 
> have not tried Little Snitch in a couple of years; thus, I cannot say whether 
> these same instructions will work for the current version of Little Snitch 
> running under the latest versions of MacOS.
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
> 
> Begin response from Objective Development Customer Support:
> 
> "Little Snitch can be used with VoiceOver.
> 
> Unfortunately VoiceOver can present a security risk, because it makes one 
> app controllable by another app. That is why controlling Little Snitch via 
> VoiceOver is disabled by default.
> 
> You would need to ask a seeing person to enable the preferences setting 
> "Allow GUI Scripting access to Little Snitch" in the "Security" tab of the 
> preferences in the Little Snitch Configuration application.
> 
> You might then want to disable this option: In the preferences tab 
> "Monitor", the setting "Show automatically on network activity" - 
> otherwise the Network Monitor will be much too chatty :) "
> 
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>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith 
>>  wrote:
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>> info. I’d love to be wrong on this occasion. But our testing has shown no 
>> accessibility whatsoever with the exception of the installer and uninstaller 
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Seeming Inconsistency with Braille

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Hi, 
There seems to be an inconsistency with Braille in Mavericks… I can find a way 
to use the tab key on a braillenote apex (space with dots 2-3-4-5) but not 
shift tab. This would be weird if it wasn’t there, and it’d be useful too for 
when I need to use this with Blackboard to complete quizes and such… is there 
any plausable way around this?
Thanks very much,
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Re: Line Spacing and Documents

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Oh sorry, okay thanks.

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> On Feb 25, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Alberto  wrote:
> 
> It is at the bottom.  I said give it a try.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:02 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry? Didn't quite come through there
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:24 PM, Alberto  wrote:
>>> 
>>> G
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Josgive it a tryGregory 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Does anybody know if the changes will keep after saving if I do this? I 
>>>> know I've said this before but that's the problem I'm having with TextEdit
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Line spacing is under Style in the Text Formatter. You have to interact 
>>>>> with the scroll area to find where to adjust this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2014, at 23:37, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I believe double spacing in pages is in the inspector. That's all I know 
>>>>>> and I'm only guessing from other messages I've seen on this list. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> good luck.
>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Okay…
>>>>>>> Probably not worth a longshot but perhaps this could be fixed in the 
>>>>>>> update?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:07 PM, isaac  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have searched through the menus but I can’t find any thing  that 
>>>>>>>> talks about double spacing in pages.
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Josh Gregory  
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good Point,, anybody know how to do it in pages? Guess it's also 
>>>>>>>>> worth noting that it will stick as soon as I do it, but when I save 
>>>>>>>>> it and go back it won't hold.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Alberto  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Not for nothing but have you tried a better word processor text edit 
>>>>>>>>>> is i believe a basic word processor.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:11 PM, josh gregory  
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>> No matter what I do, I can't get line spacing to stick... I need my
>>>>>>>>>>> documents to be double-spaced for school and whenever I try in text
>>>>>>>>>>> edit, it won't stick when I save it, that is it always reverts back 
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0 instead of 2.0. Using Mavericks 10.9.1, and it seems to lose 
>>>>>>>>>>> focus
>>>>>>>>>>> a lot too, unrelated but still annoying. Anything I can do to fix
>>>>>>>>>>> these?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>>>>>>> FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar.

Re: Can't find the OSX 10.9.2 update

[Josh Gregory]

No it is not… Is there, on my system at least

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> On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:41 PM, "Christopher Gilland"  
> wrote:
> 
> I looked in the app store under software update but I don't see 10.9.2 
> anywhere.
> 
> I presume that this isn't a developer seed at this point, seeing that you all 
> have been discussing that IBooks is no better really and that the Finder 
> works better.  If this were a dev seed only at this time, then let me remind 
> you, that the discussion of what is in a developer seed before it's been 
> released to the general public is a total violation of the NDA.
> 
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Re: Line Spacing and Documents

[Josh Gregory]

Sorry? Didn't quite come through there

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> On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:24 PM, Alberto  wrote:
> 
> G
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Josgive it a tryGregory  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anybody know if the changes will keep after saving if I do this? I know 
>> I've said this before but that's the problem I'm having with TextEdit
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Line spacing is under Style in the Text Formatter. You have to interact 
>>> with the scroll area to find where to adjust this.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 25 Feb 2014, at 23:37, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I believe double spacing in pages is in the inspector. That's all I know 
>>>> and I'm only guessing from other messages I've seen on this list. 
>>>> 
>>>> good luck.
>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay…
>>>>> Probably not worth a longshot but perhaps this could be fixed in the 
>>>>> update?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:07 PM, isaac  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have searched through the menus but I can’t find any thing  that talks 
>>>>>> about double spacing in pages.
>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good Point,, anybody know how to do it in pages? Guess it's also worth 
>>>>>>> noting that it will stick as soon as I do it, but when I save it and go 
>>>>>>> back it won't hold.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Alberto  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not for nothing but have you tried a better word processor text edit 
>>>>>>>> is i believe a basic word processor.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:11 PM, josh gregory  
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> No matter what I do, I can't get line spacing to stick... I need my
>>>>>>>>> documents to be double-spaced for school and whenever I try in text
>>>>>>>>> edit, it won't stick when I save it, that is it always reverts back to
>>>>>>>>> 1.0 instead of 2.0. Using Mavericks 10.9.1, and it seems to lose focus
>>>>>>>>> a lot too, unrelated but still annoying. Anything I can do to fix
>>>>>>>>> these?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: a way to download os 10.9.2 with out updating first?

[Josh Gregory]

So it is out… Have to take another look

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> On Feb 25, 2014, at 7:54 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded and installed the 10.9.2 update. Everything seems to have 
> gone as expected on my system. I’ve already noticed a slight Voiceover change 
> in email, and it seems like the message count is now correct. Mine took 
> awhile, but it worked great with Vo.
> This weekend when I’m at my parents’ house I’m going to help my sister update 
> her MBA.
> Jake
> JAKE JOEHL
> jajo...@att.net
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:39 PM, josh gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Doesn't look like it's been released yet on my system.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Already tried it. it says to go to the app store. which I do but it 
>>> downloads 10.9.1  which is on my system. I always download the updates 
>>> before updating  that way I can have a back up of the software.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take care.On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Josh Gregory  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> LOL…
>>>> What about downloading from Apple support site?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Dane Trethowan  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What's the big rush, can't you wait a day or maybe two? Talk about 
>>>>> creating your own problems .
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 26 Feb 2014, at 8:59 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello to all. I'm odd as I like to have the update before updating. I 
>>>>>> tried option clicking the app store, then option clicking purchases, 
>>>>>> then option clicking in this case mavericks,  then  option clicking 
>>>>>> download. This did not work as  it says I"m  still running os10.9.1 
>>>>>> which is true, but I want to dl 10.9.2 now before I even consider 
>>>>>> updating, just in case something brakes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I used to be able to do with with lion but ever since ml I have not been 
>>>>>> able to do this. Any advice on how to go about doing this? Google gives 
>>>>>> me links to adobe flash player which has nothing to do with what i"m 
>>>>>> trying to find and stuff on lion which I already know. 
>>>>>> 
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Re: Line Spacing and Documents

[Josh Gregory]

Does anybody know if the changes will keep after saving if I do this? I know 
I've said this before but that's the problem I'm having with TextEdit

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Line spacing is under Style in the Text Formatter. You have to interact with 
> the scroll area to find where to adjust this.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 25 Feb 2014, at 23:37, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> I believe double spacing in pages is in the inspector. That's all I know and 
>> I'm only guessing from other messages I've seen on this list. 
>> 
>> good luck.
>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay…
>>> Probably not worth a longshot but perhaps this could be fixed in the update?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:07 PM, isaac  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have searched through the menus but I can’t find any thing  that talks 
>>>> about double spacing in pages.
>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good Point,, anybody know how to do it in pages? Guess it's also worth 
>>>>> noting that it will stick as soon as I do it, but when I save it and go 
>>>>> back it won't hold.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Alberto  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not for nothing but have you tried a better word processor text edit is 
>>>>>> i believe a basic word processor.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:11 PM, josh gregory  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> No matter what I do, I can't get line spacing to stick... I need my
>>>>>>> documents to be double-spaced for school and whenever I try in text
>>>>>>> edit, it won't stick when I save it, that is it always reverts back to
>>>>>>> 1.0 instead of 2.0. Using Mavericks 10.9.1, and it seems to lose focus
>>>>>>> a lot too, unrelated but still annoying. Anything I can do to fix
>>>>>>> these?
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> twitter.com/joshg93
>>>>>>> Skype: joshgregory93
>>>>>>> FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com
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Re: a way to download os 10.9.2 with out updating first?

[Josh Gregory]

Doesn't look like it's been released yet on my system.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Already tried it. it says to go to the app store. which I do but it downloads 
> 10.9.1  which is on my system. I always download the updates before updating  
> that way I can have a back up of the software.
> 
> 
> Take care.On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Josh Gregory  
> wrote:
> 
>> LOL…
>> What about downloading from Apple support site?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Dane Trethowan  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What's the big rush, can't you wait a day or maybe two? Talk about creating 
>>> your own problems .
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 26 Feb 2014, at 8:59 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello to all. I'm odd as I like to have the update before updating. I 
>>>> tried option clicking the app store, then option clicking purchases, then 
>>>> option clicking in this case mavericks,  then  option clicking download. 
>>>> This did not work as  it says I"m  still running os10.9.1 which is true, 
>>>> but I want to dl 10.9.2 now before I even consider updating, just in case 
>>>> something brakes.
>>>> 
>>>> I used to be able to do with with lion but ever since ml I have not been 
>>>> able to do this. Any advice on how to go about doing this? Google gives me 
>>>> links to adobe flash player which has nothing to do with what i"m trying 
>>>> to find and stuff on lion which I already know. 
>>>> 
>>>> Tc all and be blessed. 
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Re: Line Spacing and Documents

[Josh Gregory]

Okay…
Probably not worth a longshot but perhaps this could be fixed in the update?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:07 PM, isaac  wrote:
> 
> I have searched through the menus but I can’t find any thing  that talks 
> about double spacing in pages.
>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Good Point,, anybody know how to do it in pages? Guess it's also worth 
>> noting that it will stick as soon as I do it, but when I save it and go back 
>> it won't hold.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Alberto  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not for nothing but have you tried a better word processor text edit is i 
>>> believe a basic word processor.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:11 PM, josh gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> No matter what I do, I can't get line spacing to stick... I need my
>>>> documents to be double-spaced for school and whenever I try in text
>>>> edit, it won't stick when I save it, that is it always reverts back to
>>>> 1.0 instead of 2.0. Using Mavericks 10.9.1, and it seems to lose focus
>>>> a lot too, unrelated but still annoying. Anything I can do to fix
>>>> these?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Josh
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Ways to Connect with me:
>>>> 
>>>> facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo
>>>> 
>>>> twitter.com/joshg93
>>>> Skype: joshgregory93
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Re: a way to download os 10.9.2 with out updating first?

[Josh Gregory]

LOL…
What about downloading from Apple support site?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> What's the big rush, can't you wait a day or maybe two? Talk about creating 
> your own problems .
> 
> 
>> On 26 Feb 2014, at 8:59 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello to all. I'm odd as I like to have the update before updating. I tried 
>> option clicking the app store, then option clicking purchases, then option 
>> clicking in this case mavericks,  then  option clicking download. This did 
>> not work as  it says I"m  still running os10.9.1 which is true, but I want 
>> to dl 10.9.2 now before I even consider updating, just in case something 
>> brakes.
>> 
>> I used to be able to do with with lion but ever since ml I have not been 
>> able to do this. Any advice on how to go about doing this? Google gives me 
>> links to adobe flash player which has nothing to do with what i"m trying to 
>> find and stuff on lion which I already know. 
>> 
>> Tc all and be blessed. 
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
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Re: Line Spacing and Documents

[Josh Gregory]

Good Point,, anybody know how to do it in pages? Guess it's also worth noting 
that it will stick as soon as I do it, but when I save it and go back it won't 
hold.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Alberto  wrote:
> 
> Not for nothing but have you tried a better word processor text edit is i 
> believe a basic word processor.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:11 PM, josh gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No matter what I do, I can't get line spacing to stick... I need my
>> documents to be double-spaced for school and whenever I try in text
>> edit, it won't stick when I save it, that is it always reverts back to
>> 1.0 instead of 2.0. Using Mavericks 10.9.1, and it seems to lose focus
>> a lot too, unrelated but still annoying. Anything I can do to fix
>> these?
>> Thanks,
>> Josh
>> 
>> -- 
>> Ways to Connect with me:
>> 
>> facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo
>> 
>> twitter.com/joshg93
>> Skype: joshgregory93
>> FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
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Line Spacing and Documents

[josh gregory]

Hello,
  No matter what I do, I can't get line spacing to stick... I need my
documents to be double-spaced for school and whenever I try in text
edit, it won't stick when I save it, that is it always reverts back to
1.0 instead of 2.0. Using Mavericks 10.9.1, and it seems to lose focus
a lot too, unrelated but still annoying. Anything I can do to fix
these?
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Re: Mavericks and a MacBook Pro 15 inch from 2008

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Not sure I would chance it, the specs sound kind of low.

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> I would like to query the group to see if anyone is successfully
> running VoiceOver with Mavericks on a MacBook Pro of similar specs.
> 2GB RAM sounds low. I don't want to attempt an update to Mavericks and
> have serious problems. Looking up on the Apple site, Mavericks is
> listed as being able to run on this system, but of course that does
> not mean VoiceOver will be responsive and such.
> 
> Macbook Pro 15inch MacBook 5,1 (April 2008)
> Currently running OSx 10.5.8
> Processor: 2ghz Intel core duo
> 2GB RAM ddr3
> Storage Space :5400 RPM, 148GB Capacity, 67GB Available , 80.82GB Used.
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Re: Security Update For IOS 7

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Yes… This is on the American news. An update for the Mac should be around soon.

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> My iPhone downloaded this and I've just installed it, the update is designed 
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Re: Don't buy Diet Coda.

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What does this app do?Sent from my iPhone

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> Yup absolutely.  As I said, they asked me to test it.  They have already 
> taken note of the fixes for the Mac version I've suggested.  They were very 
> pleased when I got in touch.
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> Dónal
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>> Thanks for that, not all Apps are perfect, some Apps require a little work 
>> and its only through customer feedback that developers make good Apps and 
>> we're able to use them well and productively.
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>>> Particularly for Dane, but  a general comment would be don't buy Diet Coda 
>>> for iPad at the moment.  On launch, the first screen is totally 
>>> inaccessible,.  It is impossible to use with VO.  Subsequent screens are 
>>> usable, though confusing.
>>> 
>>> I'm not criticising the devs here.  It was at their instigation that I 
>>> downloaded and tested the app as they had nobody to test on and were 
>>> delighted when I offered.
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It is in about this Mac under the Apple menu.

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> Can someone tell me where to go to find out whether my friend has mount lion 
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Re: Help with safari

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Command with the left bracket key.

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> I have a mental block. Can someone tell me how to go back a web page in 
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Re: language roter on the mac

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Not Sarah, but not that I know of.

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> Hi Sarah, I do use the track pad commander to change roter options like 
> navigating by word, paragraph etc, is there a way to customize this to add a 
> language option?
> Laurel
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>> Try using the track pad commander on the mac. 
>> 
>> You can access it with a turn of the rotor clockwise  whilst holding down 
>> the vo keys. . to turn it off reverse the jester.
>> 
>> The track pad commander will work similarly on the mac as it does with ios 
>> with  some additional jesters.
>> 
>> Take care. 
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>>> Hi guys,
>>> So, I work with 4 or 5 different languages everyday, and I'm a huge fan of 
>>> the language roter on the iPhone/iPad. It's really helpful to do one simple 
>>> gesture and change the voiceover language. Is there a language roter on the 
>>> mac that I can use? I do know how to do the command option control with the 
>>> arrow keys to change the speech attributes but this is kind of slow 
>>> sometimes. I just wondered if there was a simpler way, or if I could custom 
>>> make something simpler.
>>> Thanks
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Re: Is there a way to stop voice over not to turn down the sound volume while you are listening to streaming radio??

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No it's in vo utility, in sound or audio or something, there's a checkbox that 
says duck voiceover or something like that.

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> The best way I know to do this is to hit control option command and right or 
> left arrow until you get to Voiceover  volume you can then hit the same three 
> keys and down to lower or up to raise the volume ov voiceover.
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Re: Messages on my mac not notifying me of incoming messages, but my phone is.

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I'm pretty sure you'll have to give people your email, I think. Someone correct 
me if I'm wrong.

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> Oh ok.  I can set it to send messages to my address then.  If I do this, will 
> mewssages that are sent to my number be forward to my address or will I have 
> to tell everyone to send them there?  Sorry not sure how to do this rite?.
> 
> Thanks.
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>> On 01/31/2014 06:51 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> Perhaps you have it set to your cell number? If you switch it to your email 
>> that might help. What I mean is, perhaps you have your Mac said to receive 
>> messages at your phone number. Perhaps changing this would help?
>> 
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>>> Hi,
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>>> What do you mean switching it to my email?  On my mac I was using my apple 
>>> id and than added my cell number to my number to my apple id as it was not 
>>> showing any messages that were on my phone and that was when I found out 
>>> that messages were not being announced in notifications.  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps going into system preferences, messages, and trying to switch it 
>>>> to your email?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:11 PM, matthew dyer 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Yes.  Vo says nothing at all.  HTH..
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, voiceover should at least say something.
>>>>>> I have the same issue as well, kind of annoying actually.
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 9:33 PM, matthew dyer 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was out of it, but was not receiving them.  I have it set to banners 
>>>>>>> if that makes a difference.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:16 PM, isaac  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You have to command tab out of the messages app and then you will 
>>>>>>>> receive the notifications.
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 11:47 AM, matthew dyer 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have just set up my phone with my apple id and now messages are 
>>>>>>>>> synced  across  from my iPhone 5s and my iMac, but when in other apps 
>>>>>>>>> and  a messages  comes in I am not notified of it on my mac. how 
>>>>>>>>> ever, my phone tells me with a sound and if the phone is unlocked vo 
>>>>>>>>> reads  it.  when I go to  messages on my mac I can read the message 
>>>>>>>>> that was sent.  Is this normal, or is there something in settings I 
>>>>>>>>> need to change?  Thanks.  I am using 10.9.1which is the latest 
>>>>>>>>> version I think.  Thanks again.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Matthew
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Re: Messages on my mac not notifying me of incoming messages, but my phone is.

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Perhaps you have it set to your cell number? If you switch it to your email 
that might help. What I mean is, perhaps you have your Mac said to receive 
messages at your phone number. Perhaps changing this would help?

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> showing any messages that were on my phone and that was when I found out that 
> messages were not being announced in notifications.  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
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> 
>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
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>> Perhaps going into system preferences, messages, and trying to switch it to 
>> your email?
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>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Yes.  Vo says nothing at all.  HTH..
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> No, voiceover should at least say something.
>>>> I have the same issue as well, kind of annoying actually.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 9:33 PM, matthew dyer 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was out of it, but was not receiving them.  I have it set to banners if 
>>>>> that makes a difference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:16 PM, isaac  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You have to command tab out of the messages app and then you will 
>>>>>> receive the notifications.
>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 11:47 AM, matthew dyer 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have just set up my phone with my apple id and now messages are 
>>>>>>> synced  across  from my iPhone 5s and my iMac, but when in other apps 
>>>>>>> and  a messages  comes in I am not notified of it on my mac. how ever, 
>>>>>>> my phone tells me with a sound and if the phone is unlocked vo reads  
>>>>>>> it.  when I go to  messages on my mac I can read the message that was 
>>>>>>> sent.  Is this normal, or is there something in settings I need to 
>>>>>>> change?  Thanks.  I am using 10.9.1which is the latest version I think. 
>>>>>>>  Thanks again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Space Bar Issue Solved, But A Puzzle

[Josh Gregory]

I don't think this is meant for this, this is meant to assist people with 
physical disabilities who cannot properly use a keyboard or perform some other 
similar functionality required by OS X. Same thing can be found within iOS 7.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hello all
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> I’ve just discovered what was causing the issue with my space bar not 
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> Accessibility section of System Preferences, in the hope that Text Expander 
> would then function.  By doing so, I lost the use of my space bar.  Turning 
> that function off again reinstated the functionality of my space bar.  But I 
> am puzzled as to why the space bar should stop working when this function is 
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Re: Messages on my mac not notifying me of incoming messages, but my phone is.

[Josh Gregory]

Perhaps going into system preferences, messages, and trying to switch it to 
your email?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:11 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Yes.  Vo says nothing at all.  HTH..
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> No, voiceover should at least say something.
>> I have the same issue as well, kind of annoying actually.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 9:33 PM, matthew dyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was out of it, but was not receiving them.  I have it set to banners if 
>>> that makes a difference.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:16 PM, isaac  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You have to command tab out of the messages app and then you will receive 
>>>> the notifications.
>>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 11:47 AM, matthew dyer 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have just set up my phone with my apple id and now messages are synced  
>>>>> across  from my iPhone 5s and my iMac, but when in other apps and  a 
>>>>> messages  comes in I am not notified of it on my mac. how ever, my phone 
>>>>> tells me with a sound and if the phone is unlocked vo reads  it.  when I 
>>>>> go to  messages on my mac I can read the message that was sent.  Is this 
>>>>> normal, or is there something in settings I need to change?  Thanks.  I 
>>>>> am using 10.9.1which is the latest version I think.  Thanks again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>> 
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Re: Messages on my mac not notifying me of incoming messages, but my phone is.

[Josh Gregory]

No, voiceover should at least say something.
I have the same issue as well, kind of annoying actually.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2014, at 9:33 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> I was out of it, but was not receiving them.  I have it set to banners if 
> that makes a difference.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:16 PM, isaac  wrote:
>> 
>> You have to command tab out of the messages app and then you will receive 
>> the notifications.
>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 11:47 AM, matthew dyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> I have just set up my phone with my apple id and now messages are synced  
>>> across  from my iPhone 5s and my iMac, but when in other apps and  a 
>>> messages  comes in I am not notified of it on my mac. how ever, my phone 
>>> tells me with a sound and if the phone is unlocked vo reads  it.  when I go 
>>> to  messages on my mac I can read the message that was sent.  Is this 
>>> normal, or is there something in settings I need to change?  Thanks.  I am 
>>> using 10.9.1which is the latest version I think.  Thanks again.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
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Re: question about extra options in menus when pressing the option key

[Josh Gregory]

No, if you press the option key plus the arrow keys, it will show you the 
condition of the battery, for example, normal, needs service, replace now, etc.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2014, at 12:11 AM, "Christopher gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I'm confused.  Can't you do that without the alt options?  Just go to 
> your menu extras, and it'll show you the percentage, won't it?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:03 AM
> Subject: Re: question about extra options in menus when pressing the option 
> key
> 
> 
>> Yes, my apologies, now that I think about it, there is a way to do this as 
>> Sarah suggested, I do this to access the condition of the battery if I need 
>> to.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 11:13 PM, Michael Marshall  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hey criss,
>>> will have a play with this.
>>> there needs to be a way for VO users to work with these extra options.
>>>> On 29 Jan 2014, at 1:45 pm, Christopher gilland  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think that's what he meant.  Your Voiceover keys are control and 
>>>> option.  So if you're already holding them down to navigate, then how are 
>>>> you supposed to get to those extra options which would require you to hold 
>>>> the option key down while hovering your mouse over the key.  The only way 
>>>> that I've found to get this to work is to open up the menu, vo+down arrow 
>>>> to the option which needs to be changed over, then route your mouse with 
>>>> vo+command+F5, then hit your option key while clicking your physical mouse 
>>>> or trackpad.  the only issue with this however is beware, there really 
>>>> isn't, at least that I know of, a reliable way to see what the options 
>>>> turn to when holding down the option key since you can't navigate 
>>>> effectively with voiceover while the Option key is held down.  Again, I 
>>>> know.  You already are! holding down your option key with your voiceover 
>>>> keys.  that's my whole point.  If you're holding down the control and 
>>>> option keys already, then you don't have a w
 ay
>> 
>>> of specifying to change to the alt option.  Ya know?  So, yeah, it's 
>>> probably not the most effective way to do things, however, that said, I 
>>> have found times, very few and far between, but still, I have seen times 
>>> where I didn't have a choice, and that's how I got around it.  Again, not 
>>> probably the answer you wanted, I'm sure, but it's what I got.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: question about extra options in menus when pressing the 
>>>> option key
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> You work with these the same way you do normal menus, when an option 
>>>>> comes up that you want, press VO+Space to activith such options.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Michael Marshall 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hey all,
>>>>>> i have a quick question for you all.
>>>>>> i was playing in the view menu of finder sitting on the arrange by sub 
>>>>>> menu and i found that when i hit the option key the sub menu changed to 
>>>>>> say sort by.
>>>>>> how do VO users work with this? because you have to keep holding the 
>>>>>> option key down to see the new options that come up. how do you enter 
>>>>>> these menus to work with the new options?
>>>>>> thanks for any help
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael
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Re: question about extra options in menus when pressing the option key

[Josh Gregory]

Yes, my apologies, now that I think about it, there is a way to do this as 
Sarah suggested, I do this to access the condition of the battery if I need to.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2014, at 11:13 PM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> hey criss,
> will have a play with this.
> there needs to be a way for VO users to work with these extra options.
>> On 29 Jan 2014, at 1:45 pm, Christopher gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think that's what he meant.  Your Voiceover keys are control and 
>> option.  So if you're already holding them down to navigate, then how are 
>> you supposed to get to those extra options which would require you to hold 
>> the option key down while hovering your mouse over the key.  The only way 
>> that I've found to get this to work is to open up the menu, vo+down arrow to 
>> the option which needs to be changed over, then route your mouse with 
>> vo+command+F5, then hit your option key while clicking your physical mouse 
>> or trackpad.  the only issue with this however is beware, there really 
>> isn't, at least that I know of, a reliable way to see what the options turn 
>> to when holding down the option key since you can't navigate effectively 
>> with voiceover while the Option key is held down.  Again, I know.  You 
>> already are! holding down your option key with your voiceover keys.  that's 
>> my whole point.  If you're holding down the control and option keys already, 
>> then you don't have a way
  
> of specifying to change to the alt option.  Ya know?  So, yeah, it's probably 
> not the most effective way to do things, however, that said, I have found 
> times, very few and far between, but still, I have seen times where I didn't 
> have a choice, and that's how I got around it.  Again, not probably the 
> answer you wanted, I'm sure, but it's what I got.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: question about extra options in menus when pressing the option 
>> key
>> 
>> 
>>> You work with these the same way you do normal menus, when an option comes 
>>> up that you want, press VO+Space to activith such options.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Michael Marshall  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hey all,
>>>> i have a quick question for you all.
>>>> i was playing in the view menu of finder sitting on the arrange by sub 
>>>> menu and i found that when i hit the option key the sub menu changed to 
>>>> say sort by.
>>>> how do VO users work with this? because you have to keep holding the 
>>>> option key down to see the new options that come up. how do you enter 
>>>> these menus to work with the new options?
>>>> thanks for any help
>>>> 
>>>> Michael
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Re: question about extra options in menus when pressing the option key

[Josh Gregory]

You work with these the same way you do normal menus, when an option comes up 
that you want, press VO+Space to activith such options.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> hey all,
> i have a quick question for you all.
> i was playing in the view menu of finder sitting on the arrange by sub menu 
> and i found that when i hit the option key the sub menu changed to say sort 
> by.
> how do VO users work with this? because you have to keep holding the option 
> key down to see the new options that come up. how do you enter these menus to 
> work with the new options?
> thanks for any help
> 
> Michael
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Re: Cocktail Maintenance Utility, Tried And Tru

[josh gregory]

Are there any free programs to accomplish similar tasks? Just curious.

On 1/28/14, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
> Hello all!
> This was a Cocktail day. Thanks again for reminding me about it. It is
> great. I  loved it, I purchased a family license, since we have 3 macs at
> home.
> I find it self explaining, and he help file is very good.
> I really did not like the maintenance Apps, because I found them strange and
> difficult to follow, but this arrangements with buttons on the tool bar and
> tabs within each one, makes it really intuitive.
> I just have a question for expert users. What is to purge virtual memory? Is
> it OK to do it or the pilot will do it for us?
> Thanks a lot!
> Best
>
> Daniela Rubio T
> iPhone: +34662328507
>
>
>
> El 28/01/2014, a las 15:33, Caitlyn and Maggie 
> escribió:
>
>> It's worth mentioning too, that you can get a trial version of Cocktail.
>> It runs for ten launches before it won't work, then you've got to pony up
>> your $20 to get a key.
>> I like this as I can check out the app and decide whether to buy it or
>> not.
>> hth,
>> Caitlyn
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 3:55 AM, Dane Trethowan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You'll find the help file of Cocktail vern informative so start by
>>> looking at that to find out about the functionality of the App.
>>>
>>> When I speak of Backup I'm referring to any Backup system you have
>>> whether that be a Time Machine Backup, Super Duper Backup or whatever,
>>> Time Machine backs up in the background and doesn't interrupt your work.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 Jan 2014, at 6:03 pm, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>>>
 Hello, good morning!
 I am very interested in Cocktail and how to used, what to do, etc, so,
 if somebody could give some advice on for example, what options are good
 for a regular maintenance, what to do from time to time, how to program
 maintenances, etc.
 I know that it might be a lot to ask, but I don't want to mes up my mac,
 sen if I have backups, because I use it all day for my work k.
 So, if there is a written resource, or somebody could give advice, I
 will appreciate it a lot. Also, do I download cocktail from Appstore? I
 was looking for it there and I did not find it.
 Thanks a lot for all, Take care!


 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507



 El 28/01/2014, a las 07:36, Dane Trethowan 
 escribió:

> Hi!
>
> I've been a user of the Cocktail Maintenance utility for 6 years or so
> though I never used it on a regular basis.
>
> I've been using Cocktail every day regularly for the last couple of
> months using the "Pilot" and the "Daily Script", I've scheduled a time
> for Cocktail to run once every day at 1"00 AM and then Cocktail causes
> the computer to shut down after maintenance has been completed.
>
> I can honestly say that this maintenance has done wonders for the
> performance of my 2011 iMac machine, the computer runs a lot faster
> loading programmes in fractions of a second, the longest App to load is
> Skype and that takes around half a second.
>
> Thought Id give this a mention as people may wish to try Cocktail or a
> similar maintenance utility and see how they get on.
>
> Note that the "Pilot" of Cocktail is fully customisable but do read the
> help file before you start poking around in the options or at the very
> least have a backup handy .
>
>
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Re: Cocktail Maintenance Utility, Tried And Tru

[Josh Gregory]

Very nice, sounds good. Is Clean my Mac free?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> I personally use onyx as I love the DYA stuff you can do with it and it is 
> accessible as well. I also use clean my mac every day  to clear stuff. I 
> think between those 2 apps my mac is doing well for it being 4 years old. 
> it's running almost as good as the day I bought it in 2010.
> 
> Take care and be blessed. 
>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all!
>> This was a Cocktail day. Thanks again for reminding me about it. It is 
>> great. I  loved it, I purchased a family license, since we have 3 macs at 
>> home.
>> I find it self explaining, and he help file is very good.
>> I really did not like the maintenance Apps, because I found them strange and 
>> difficult to follow, but this arrangements with buttons on the tool bar and 
>> tabs within each one, makes it really intuitive.
>> I just have a question for expert users. What is to purge virtual memory? Is 
>> it OK to do it or the pilot will do it for us?
>> Thanks a lot!
>> Best
>> 
>> Daniela Rubio T
>> iPhone: +34662328507
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> El 28/01/2014, a las 15:33, Caitlyn and Maggie  
>>> escribió:
>>> 
>>> It’s worth mentioning too, that you can get a trial version of Cocktail.  
>>> It runs for ten launches before it won’t work, then you’ve got to pony up 
>>> your $20 to get a key.
>>> I like this as I can check out the app and decide whether to buy it or not.
>>> hth,
>>> Caitlyn
>>> 
 On Jan 28, 2014, at 3:55 AM, Dane Trethowan  
 wrote:
 
 You'll find the help file of Cocktail vern informative so start by looking 
 at that to find out about the functionality of the App.
 
 When I speak of Backup I'm referring to any Backup system you have whether 
 that be a Time Machine Backup, Super Duper Backup or whatever, Time 
 Machine backs up in the background and doesn't interrupt your work.
 
 
> On 28 Jan 2014, at 6:03 pm, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
> 
> Hello, good morning!
> I am very interested in Cocktail and how to used, what to do, etc, so, if 
> somebody could give some advice on for example, what options are good for 
> a regular maintenance, what to do from time to time, how to program 
> maintenances, etc.
> I know that it might be a lot to ask, but I don’t want to mes up my mac, 
> sen if I have backups, because I use it all day for my work k.
> So, if there is a written resource, or somebody could give advice, I will 
> appreciate it a lot. Also, do I download cocktail from Appstore? I was 
> looking for it there and I did not find it.
> Thanks a lot for all, Take care!
> 
> 
> Daniela Rubio T
> iPhone: +34662328507
> 
> 
> 
>> El 28/01/2014, a las 07:36, Dane Trethowan  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I’ve been a user of the Cocktail Maintenance utility for 6 years or so 
>> though I never used it on a regular basis.
>> 
>> I’ve been using Cocktail every day regularly for the last couple of 
>> months using the “Pilot” and the “Daily Script”, I’ve scheduled a time 
>> for Cocktail to run once every day at 1”00 AM and then Cocktail causes 
>> the computer to shut down after maintenance has been completed.
>> 
>> I can honestly say that this maintenance has done wonders for the 
>> performance of my 2011 iMac machine, the computer runs a lot faster 
>> loading programmes in fractions of a second, the longest App to load is 
>> Skype and that takes around half a second.
>> 
>> Thought Id give this a mention as people may wish to try Cocktail or a 
>> similar maintenance utility and see how they get on.
>> 
>> Note that the “Pilot” of Cocktail is fully customisable but do read the 
>> help file before you start poking around in the options or at the very 
>> least have a backup handy .
>> 
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Re: Problem with Yorufukirou

[Josh Gregory]

You can use an application known as easy find, which allows you to find any 
files associated with any application on your system. You can find pretty much 
anything for that matter, even hidden things.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
> 
> Of course, I know all the keystrokes to switch accounts, etc.  They are in 
> the menus.  Anyway, on to the next question.
> 
> Oh, and by the way, packet loss won’t be detectable simply by visiting an 
> uncached site.  The suggestion to use ping or even traceroute to determine 
> packet loss is a good one.
> 
> Anyway, now that I have the preferences, etc, in the trash, since I am a 
> fairly new Mac user, maybe someone can tell me whether there is a way to 
> determine where those files in the trash originated?  I would like to know 
> the locations of the files so that I can compare and try to further isolate 
> what caused the issue.  It is not immediately obvious how to determine where 
> the files in the trash came from.  I tried Command I but that didn’t do it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Christopher gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Whoops.  I knew it was something like that, I just couldn't remember exactly, 
> which is sad, seeing I have both my personal and our work twitter set up in 
> there.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Ben J Bloomgren" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Problem with Yorufukirou
> 
> 
>> Jeff, Chris and all,
>> 
>> I just checked, and the command to switch accounts in Yorufukurou is 
>> command+option+up and down arrows.
>> 
>> Ben J. Bloomgren
>> 
>> Manager
>> CLG Productions
>> 
>> Http://www.clgproductions.com
>> 
>> 704-256-0067
>> 
>> Hours: Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Eastern accept 
>> holidays.
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 15:44, Christopher gilland  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jeff, I'd have to agree with Ben partially.  Not entirely though.
>>> 
>>> I agree with Ben that it could! ok, key word, could! be a wifi or ethernet 
>>> issue.  Remember Ben, just because you're on wifi doesn't mean everyone is. 
>>> He might actually be on ethernet, so don't just assume that as the only 
>>> possibility.  That said, I do agree it sounds like you're having some sort 
>>> of a connection issue.  Does the internet work for you outside of 
>>> YoruFukurou?  Second of all, when's the last time you checked for updates 
>>> to the app?  I wonder if either something in your account broke or maybe 
>>> it's having issues communicating back and forth with Twitter's API?  I 
>>> don't necessarily mean your API calls.  I'm talking more generally about 
>>> the API in a whole which allows YoruFukurou or any other twitter client to 
>>> connect to their servers.
>>> 
>>> The other thing too you may wanna try, Jeff, is to completely remove all 
>>> broken Twitter accounts from YoruFukurou's preferences, then re-add them, 
>>> and see if that helps.
>>> 
>>> Also, are you sure you're on your timeline tab?  Open up the app, and hit 
>>> command+num row 1.  This will reset your  view, and confirm beyond a doubt 
>>> that you're truely on your timeline.  Also, if you have multiple accounts 
>>> set up, try command up and command down arrows I think it is, to move 
>>> through the different accounts.  See if all your accounts in there are 
>>> broken and are consisting of this unusual behavior.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Geoff Stephens" 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 4:46 PM
>>> Subject: Problem with Yorufukirou
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Having a problem for the past week or so with Yorufukirou that I can’t seem 
>>> to solve.
>>> 
>>> Whenever I load it, there is a message that says “preparing” and a progress 
>>> indicator.  This never goes away and my timelines for multiple accounts do 
>>> not load.  In fact, nothing else happens at all.  I did get the message 
>>> that I was rate limited once or twice, but that never even happens now.  I 
>>> went into preferences and made sure the refresh was set to a sensible time 
>>> in case that was truly the problem.
>>> 
>>> So the problem is that I can’t figure out how to completely remove 
>>> Yorufukurou and reinstall it.  Whenver I remove it and reinstall, the same 
>>> situation occurs.  I have looked for its associated caches/preferences and 
>>> it doesn’t seem to have any that I can find.  I am using the App Store 
>>> version.  I thought when you trashed an app from the App Store, it was 
>>> entirely removed.  Apparently, that may not be the case.  Has anyone 
>>> experienced this issue and possibly solved it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: adium

[Josh Gregory]

No problem, glad to help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
> wrote:
> 
> I think I've got it figured out. Yeah Chris, I sort of figured that was the 
> deal with the constant new windows, I've finally got it where I can move 
> through my converstations using command plus the accent key, like Josh 
> suggested and it's working ok. I think it just took a little getting used to. 
> :-)
> Thanks for the help guys,
> Laurel
>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> It might also be a visual thing too, I'm blind so I've never understood that 
>> sort of thing but yeah.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:34 PM, "Christopher gilland" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The thing with it saying it has a new window is sort of, ish, a bug.  I say 
>>> sort of, because what's happening is, in your main contact window, I have 
>>> never quite understood why this occurs, but whenever someone either changes 
>>> status, or signs off, for some reason, Voiceover sees that as a new window 
>>> popping up when your contact list refreshes to reflect the new status.  I 
>>> agree that it's kind of bizarre, but there actually isn't another window 
>>> popping up.  I can see though where this really would be confusing.  I know 
>>> at first for me it sure was.  I was like... OK, where on earth's that other 
>>> window, for goodness sake!
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Laurel and Stockard" 
>>> 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: adium
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Ok, I've noticed that adium periodically announces that there is a new 
>>>> window, but I can't figure out how to toggle to the new window, or how to 
>>>> go back to my contacts without closing a chat. I'm using the latest 
>>>> version. It appears that I need a simple tutorial on this, any good ones 
>>>> out there? I've only found ones from years ago.
>>>> Laurel
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've tried for example command plus the number 1, and it won't do 
>>>>> anything. I know that once I find the conversation, it's in the html 
>>>>> content, but finding it is driving me crazy.
>>>>> Laurel
>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can press the command key and any of the number keys on the keyboard 
>>>>>> to go to that conversation. The message is in the HTML content.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>> It's been a while since I've used Adium messenger for the mac, but I've 
>>>>>>> started using it again. So, question. When somebody sends me a message, 
>>>>>>> I can't seem to figure out where the message is for me to view, unless 
>>>>>>> I click on my contacts name to see if it came from them or not. When it 
>>>>>>> makes the sound to announce the incoming message, what voiceover 
>>>>>>> command can I use to actually find and view the message? Thanks
>>>>>>> Laurel
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Re: adium

[Josh Gregory]

Interesting, that makes more sense.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:51 PM, "Christopher gilland"  
> wrote:
> 
> Josh, you're exactly right.  It's visually bringing up a little popup 
> directly to the right of the pwerson's name.  Kind a like a tooltip in 
> Windows would be.  So, that very likely could be what is triggerring it. good 
> point.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: adium
> 
> 
>> It might also be a visual thing too, I'm blind so I've never understood that 
>> sort of thing but yeah.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:34 PM, "Christopher gilland" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The thing with it saying it has a new window is sort of, ish, a bug.  I say 
>>> sort of, because what's happening is, in your main contact window, I have 
>>> never quite understood why this occurs, but whenever someone either changes 
>>> status, or signs off, for some reason, Voiceover sees that as a new window 
>>> popping up when your contact list refreshes to reflect the new status.  I 
>>> agree that it's kind of bizarre, but there actually isn't another window 
>>> popping up.  I can see though where this really would be confusing.  I know 
>>> at first for me it sure was.  I was like... OK, where on earth's that other 
>>> window, for goodness sake!
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Laurel and Stockard" 
>>> 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: adium
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Ok, I've noticed that adium periodically announces that there is a new 
>>>> window, but I can't figure out how to toggle to the new window, or how to 
>>>> go back to my contacts without closing a chat. I'm using the latest 
>>>> version. It appears that I need a simple tutorial on this, any good ones 
>>>> out there? I've only found ones from years ago.
>>>> Laurel
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've tried for example command plus the number 1, and it won't do 
>>>>> anything. I know that once I find the conversation, it's in the html 
>>>>> content, but finding it is driving me crazy.
>>>>> Laurel
>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can press the command key and any of the number keys on the keyboard 
>>>>>> to go to that conversation. The message is in the HTML content.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>> It's been a while since I've used Adium messenger for the mac, but I've 
>>>>>>> started using it again. So, question. When somebody sends me a message, 
>>>>>>> I can't seem to figure out where the message is for me to view, unless 
>>>>>>> I click on my contacts name to see if it came from them or not. When it 
>>>>>>> makes the sound to announce the incoming message, what voiceover 
>>>>>>> command can I use to actually find and view the message? Thanks
>>>>>>> Laurel
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Re: Tips: How to selectively hide/unhide past iTunes purchases | 9to5Mac

[Josh Gregory]

in the past, this was accessible with voiceover on  OS X, I've done it before 
as an experiment. I don't know if it is now though…

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> I have been looking for a way to do this and no matter what I try in the 
> articles I read this does not work. can anyone manage to do this under iTunes 
> or the iOS app stores on our iOS devices using voice e over? I can't believe 
> that this is not possible using ios7 and voice over. There has got to be a 
> work around.
> 
> thanks all and link is  below. 
> http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/13/tips-how-to-selectively-hideunhide-past-itunes-purchases/
>  
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Re: adium

[Josh Gregory]

It might also be a visual thing too, I'm blind so I've never understood that 
sort of thing but yeah.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:34 PM, "Christopher gilland"  
> wrote:
> 
> The thing with it saying it has a new window is sort of, ish, a bug.  I say 
> sort of, because what's happening is, in your main contact window, I have 
> never quite understood why this occurs, but whenever someone either changes 
> status, or signs off, for some reason, Voiceover sees that as a new window 
> popping up when your contact list refreshes to reflect the new status.  I 
> agree that it's kind of bizarre, but there actually isn't another window 
> popping up.  I can see though where this really would be confusing.  I know 
> at first for me it sure was.  I was like... OK, where on earth's that other 
> window, for goodness sake!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Laurel and Stockard" 
> 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:37 PM
> Subject: Re: adium
> 
> 
>> Ok, I've noticed that adium periodically announces that there is a new 
>> window, but I can't figure out how to toggle to the new window, or how to go 
>> back to my contacts without closing a chat. I'm using the latest version. It 
>> appears that I need a simple tutorial on this, any good ones out there? I've 
>> only found ones from years ago.
>> Laurel
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've tried for example command plus the number 1, and it won't do anything. 
>>> I know that once I find the conversation, it's in the html content, but 
>>> finding it is driving me crazy.
>>> Laurel
>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You can press the command key and any of the number keys on the keyboard 
>>>> to go to that conversation. The message is in the HTML content.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>> It's been a while since I've used Adium messenger for the mac, but I've 
>>>>> started using it again. So, question. When somebody sends me a message, I 
>>>>> can't seem to figure out where the message is for me to view, unless I 
>>>>> click on my contacts name to see if it came from them or not. When it 
>>>>> makes the sound to announce the incoming message, what voiceover command 
>>>>> can I use to actually find and view the message? Thanks
>>>>> Laurel
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Re: adium

[Josh Gregory]

LOL glad to help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, but you know what, I think your suggestion about command plus accent 
> and then command plus / is just what I was looking for. Somebody aught to 
> create a voiceover short cut key guide for this, that would be helpful. :-)
> Laurel
>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> You can press the command plus slash key to go to your contacts, and command 
>> plus the accent key to go through your windows.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I've noticed that adium periodically announces that there is a new 
>>> window, but I can't figure out how to toggle to the new window, or how to 
>>> go back to my contacts without closing a chat. I'm using the latest 
>>> version. It appears that I need a simple tutorial on this, any good ones 
>>> out there? I've only found ones from years ago.
>>> Laurel
>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've tried for example command plus the number 1, and it won't do 
>>>> anything. I know that once I find the conversation, it's in the html 
>>>> content, but finding it is driving me crazy.
>>>> Laurel
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can press the command key and any of the number keys on the keyboard 
>>>>> to go to that conversation. The message is in the HTML content.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>> It's been a while since I've used Adium messenger for the mac, but I've 
>>>>>> started using it again. So, question. When somebody sends me a message, 
>>>>>> I can't seem to figure out where the message is for me to view, unless I 
>>>>>> click on my contacts name to see if it came from them or not. When it 
>>>>>> makes the sound to announce the incoming message, what voiceover command 
>>>>>> can I use to actually find and view the message? Thanks
>>>>>> Laurel
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>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
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>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
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Re: adium

[Josh Gregory]

Weird that you can't do it now, are you in a conversation when you try to do it?

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> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, no joke, I can't seem to figure it out, it used to work fine for me a 
> year ago when I used it
> Laurel
>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> That's weird… When you are  in adium you should be able to do the command 
>> thing and it should work.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've tried for example command plus the number 1, and it won't do anything. 
>>> I know that once I find the conversation, it's in the html content, but 
>>> finding it is driving me crazy.
>>> Laurel
>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You can press the command key and any of the number keys on the keyboard 
>>>> to go to that conversation. The message is in the HTML content.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>> It's been a while since I've used Adium messenger for the mac, but I've 
>>>>> started using it again. So, question. When somebody sends me a message, I 
>>>>> can't seem to figure out where the message is for me to view, unless I 
>>>>> click on my contacts name to see if it came from them or not. When it 
>>>>> makes the sound to announce the incoming message, what voiceover command 
>>>>> can I use to actually find and view the message? Thanks
>>>>> Laurel
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Re: adium

[Josh Gregory]

You can press the command plus slash key to go to your contacts, and command 
plus the accent key to go through your windows.

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> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I've noticed that adium periodically announces that there is a new 
> window, but I can't figure out how to toggle to the new window, or how to go 
> back to my contacts without closing a chat. I'm using the latest version. It 
> appears that I need a simple tutorial on this, any good ones out there? I've 
> only found ones from years ago.
> Laurel
>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I've tried for example command plus the number 1, and it won't do anything. 
>> I know that once I find the conversation, it's in the html content, but 
>> finding it is driving me crazy.
>> Laurel
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can press the command key and any of the number keys on the keyboard to 
>>> go to that conversation. The message is in the HTML content.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> It's been a while since I've used Adium messenger for the mac, but I've 
>>>> started using it again. So, question. When somebody sends me a message, I 
>>>> can't seem to figure out where the message is for me to view, unless I 
>>>> click on my contacts name to see if it came from them or not. When it 
>>>> makes the sound to announce the incoming message, what voiceover command 
>>>> can I use to actually find and view the message? Thanks
>>>> Laurel
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Re: adium

[Josh Gregory]

That's weird… When you are  in adium you should be able to do the command thing 
and it should work.

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> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
> wrote:
> 
> I've tried for example command plus the number 1, and it won't do anything. I 
> know that once I find the conversation, it's in the html content, but finding 
> it is driving me crazy.
> Laurel
>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> You can press the command key and any of the number keys on the keyboard to 
>> go to that conversation. The message is in the HTML content.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> It's been a while since I've used Adium messenger for the mac, but I've 
>>> started using it again. So, question. When somebody sends me a message, I 
>>> can't seem to figure out where the message is for me to view, unless I 
>>> click on my contacts name to see if it came from them or not. When it makes 
>>> the sound to announce the incoming message, what voiceover command can I 
>>> use to actually find and view the message? Thanks
>>> Laurel
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Re: adium

[Josh Gregory]

You can press the command key and any of the number keys on the keyboard to go 
to that conversation. The message is in the HTML content.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> It's been a while since I've used Adium messenger for the mac, but I've 
> started using it again. So, question. When somebody sends me a message, I 
> can't seem to figure out where the message is for me to view, unless I click 
> on my contacts name to see if it came from them or not. When it makes the 
> sound to announce the incoming message, what voiceover command can I use to 
> actually find and view the message? Thanks
> Laurel
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Re: Yurufukuru Question

[Josh Gregory]

Okay I see, kind of like in the Twitter app for iPhone.

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> On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Oh you can. just hit cmd u and type in the user name.  and hit enter then go 
> to a tweet they did, go to the drawer with the key stroke and then follow the 
> instructionsI gave for following a a person. It's actually sounds like more  
> work then it is.  but it works well.
>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> They need to insert the thing where you can follow somebody by just 
>> searching for their Twitter handle, that would be a lot easier.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually it has not.  The drawer has been around since I have been using it 
>>> since around 2011 and all their actions. what  does not work is the follow 
>>> username command  That broke when the new twitter API was roles out in june 
>>> of last year or so.
>>> 
>>> Take care and have fun with it. 
>>>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Desi Noller  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks so much Sarah!  I'm pretty sure it has changed since I last used 
>>>> it!  :)
>>>> 
>>>> Desi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey don't worry about it. I don't know how to search for new followers 
>>>>> but to follow someone once you are focused  on that person hit cmd option 
>>>>> apostrophe  and go to the pop up button, choose followers status  and 
>>>>> then from there hit follow. You cvan also block and unfollow the person 
>>>>> if you want to.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Desi Noller  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can I add new followers when I am in Yorufukuru?  Also, how do I search 
>>>>>> for new people to follow?  Thanks!  I haven't used this App in quite a 
>>>>>> while!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Desi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Re: Yurufukuru Question

[Josh Gregory]

They need to insert the thing where you can follow somebody by just searching 
for their Twitter handle, that would be a lot easier.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Actually it has not.  The drawer has been around since I have been using it 
> since around 2011 and all their actions. what  does not work is the follow 
> username command  That broke when the new twitter API was roles out in june 
> of last year or so.
> 
> Take care and have fun with it. 
>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Desi Noller  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks so much Sarah!  I'm pretty sure it has changed since I last used it!  
>> :)
>> 
>> Desi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey don't worry about it. I don't know how to search for new followers but 
>>> to follow someone once you are focused  on that person hit cmd option 
>>> apostrophe  and go to the pop up button, choose followers status  and then 
>>> from there hit follow. You cvan also block and unfollow the person if you 
>>> want to.
>>> 
>>> Good luck.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Desi Noller  wrote:
 
 Hi Everybody,
 
 Can I add new followers when I am in Yorufukuru?  Also, how do I search 
 for new people to follow?  Thanks!  I haven't used this App in quite a 
 while!
 
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Re: How to make a bootable Mavericks install drive | Macworld

[Josh Gregory]

Gordon,
Yes I get that, but if you go into recovery mode, you can erase the hard drive, 
which is why you need to have an install disc or some other medium of 
reinstalling the OS, if you don't, you're pretty much stuck.

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> On Jan 20, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
> You missunderstand me I think.  This has nothing to do with Disk Usility at 
> all.  It simply creates a bootable disk with the currently installed 
> operating system as its base.  As for erasing your hard drive, that is not 
> possible.  OS X will not permit you to erase the current boot device.
> 
> Kind Regards
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> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Josh Gregory  To: OS X & iOS Accessibility  Date sent: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:36:27 -0500
> Subject: Re: How to make a bootable Mavericks install drive | Macworld
> 
> You could, but the only way that I know of using that method is disk utility, 
> if you do it before you do disk utility, you will erase the hard drive and 
> not be able to get back into it.  I've done that.  Not good.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 19, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
> Forgive my late entrance conffth thread.  But can you not just use the Apple 
> Recovery Assistant?  That works well and is totally accessible.  I have 
> Mavericks, Mkain Lion and Lion bootable USB keys here which were created used 
> Recovery Assistant.  I guess it's just a case for horses for courses.
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> - Original Message -
> From: Dane Trethowan  To: OS X & iOS Accessibility  Date sent: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:32:28 +1100
> Subject: Re: How to make a bootable Mavericks install drive | Macworld
> 
> Back after a curl I'll look it up now and thanks for the info, Google Is Your 
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Re: CD Booklets

[Josh Gregory]

LOL I don't know, maybe on the artist website? I didn't even know they have 
those LOL. And that's sad because I'm a kid from the 90s. But I digress. Like I 
said maybe the artist website?

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> On Jan 19, 2014, at 10:44 PM, Christopher Gilland  
> wrote:
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> Does anyone know if there is a way after importing my CD’s into ITunes, or 
> purchasing them from the store if I can somehow accessibly download pdf’s or 
> some accessible format of their CD sleeve booklets?  I know the store has 
> some albums that already come like that, but I’m saying, is there maybe some 
> place I could search for an album, and download the booklet manually?  I just 
> hate that I have no way of reading some of them, as you actually can learn a 
> lot about the artists, or about certain songs that way.  I remember back as a 
> little kid when I was taking guitar lessons, I’d always bring my CD’s into my 
> lessons and my teacher would use a little cassette recorder and would read to 
> me my CD sleeves, (bless his heart for doing so.) and I gotta hand it to you, 
> you’d be surprised at the things sometimes you can find in those things.
> 
> Chris.
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Re: How to make a bootable Mavericks install drive | Macworld

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You could, but the only way that I know of using that method is disk utility, 
if you do it before you do disk utility, you will erase the hard drive and not 
be able to get back into it. I've done that. Not good.

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> On Jan 19, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Gordon Smith  wrote:
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> Forgive my late entrance conffth thread.  But can you not just use the Apple 
> Recovery Assistant?  That works well and is totally accessible.  I have 
> Mavericks, Mkain Lion and Lion bootable USB keys here which were created used 
> Recovery Assistant.  I guess it's just a case for horses for courses.
> Kind Regards
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> Providing Support For Young People Living With Sight Loss:  Advice On 
> Accessible Information Technologies And Braille Transcription Services.
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> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Dane Trethowan  To: OS X & iOS Accessibility  Date sent: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:32:28 +1100
> Subject: Re: How to make a bootable Mavericks install drive | Macworld
> 
> Back after a curl I'll look it up now and thanks for the info, Google Is Your 
> Friend.
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Re: An Issue With YoruFukurou Twitter Client

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Right, but when I try to perform an action on a tweet,  four instance reply or 
send the person a direct  message, it won't work.

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> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Matthew Carello  wrote:
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> If you hit command and the left or right arrows it will move you between 
> them. timeline mentions dm favorites so on is what I mean grin 
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
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>> Weird thing is that whenever I use the arrow keys, and try to do one of the 
>> commands to have an action done, I just get the default error tone.I 
>> interact with the table and use the arrow keys to move around.
>> 
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Re: noticing an unwanted difference in dictation since upgrading to 7...

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No problem, glad to help :-)

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> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Laurie Mehta  wrote:
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> Thanks very much Sarah and Josh. I adjusted the volume while dictating a 
> couple of test texts. This was very helpful advice. (smile)
> - Laurie
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Re: An Issue With YoruFukurou Twitter Client

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Weird thing is that whenever I use the arrow keys, and try to do one of the 
commands to have an action done, I just get the default error tone.I interact 
with the table and use the arrow keys to move around.

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> On Jan 16, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Matthew Carello  wrote:
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> Hello Dane. What I do is as follows. I do not interact with the fields. I 
> mean I do not hit vo shift down arrow to interact with the areas. I use 
> command and right or left arrow to go to the field I want. I then use j and k 
> keys to move forward and backward in the list that I am currently in. When it 
> is on the tweet i want to do something such as reply to I then hit the enter 
> key and this seems to work. It also works for direct messages and favoriting 
> and so on. I hope this helps.
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>> Okay thanks I forgot to mention how I was navigating, I'll make a point of 
>> just using the arrow keys as suggested and see how I get on.
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Re: noticing an unwanted difference in dictation since upgrading to 7...

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Try pressing the volume up button after you start dictation, that should help.

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> Hi, 
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> Since I upgraded to ios7 for my iPod, I've noticed several things that are 
> taking some getting used to, but one that is especially unpleasant is that
> when texting and using dictate to create a text message
> the sound that dings to announce that dictate mode has started has become 
> much, much quieter than before
> and even the repeat back of the text I have dictated is at a very low volume.
> My regular volume is set fine via the buttons on the side of the iPod, but it 
> is odd that the sounds during dictate mode are so much significantly quieter 
> than the set volume.
> This causes some problems in a noisy environment since it's hard for me to 
> hear that the dictate mode has started.
> 
> Do any of you know if there's a way to fix this problem and if so how?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Laurie
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Re: ot: deleting all mail in gmail, a tutorial.

[Josh Gregory]

But doesn't seem to work, although I know it did before, maybe they change 
something? And where is the shortcut thing?

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> On Jan 14, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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> Pull up a list of links with vo  u and left arrow to links if you are not on 
> that, then hit  b a s and you will get to the basic html area. I can use the 
> standard view pretty well actually except for this and Iuse nothing but that 
> now a days.
> 
> Take care.
>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> This might be practically impossible, the standard Gmail view really is not 
>> accessible from any Mac. Tried it earlier to know avail, and the basic HTML 
>> link I couldn't find either.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe  that's our issue. How do you turn key board shortcuts on? Maybe 
>>> that's the difference between your set up and all of ours?
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 7:56 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm really not sure what y’all's problem is. All I know is what I got. 
>>>> Keyboard shortcuts in gmail 1s on. Mail per page is 100. That's all I know.
>>>> Sent from my braille plus 18
>>>> 
>>>> Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have the same results, what settings are you using  this Devin?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tried  that, and it didn't work in chrome.  The empty trash  thing was 
>>>>>> not able to be clicked and the select all thing was not there. I got out 
>>>>>> of the table and vo left once and never found a select all. Using the 
>>>>>> latest of os, safari nd chrome here.
>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you. And to the person that said vo doesn't say "all 100 messages 
>>>>>>> are selected", after pressing star a, it won't, unless you use chrome, 
>>>>>>> I think. After pressing star a, stop interacting with the table, go 
>>>>>>> left, and you'll see a heading, go right from there, and you'll see the 
>>>>>>> option to select all mail and such. And yes, this works with any folder 
>>>>>>> in gmail, including the lovely trash folder.
>>>>>>> Sent from my braille plus 18
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Gordon, Lynne & Tracy"  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just for future reference, If you know something is off topic for this 
>>>>>>>> group, please do not post it to the group without first asking the 
>>>>>>>> list owners, i.e., Mac Access Support, if it’s alright to do so.  
>>>>>>>> However, since your post is very specifically related to Apple’s 
>>>>>>>> platform, it is not, in actual fact, off topic at all.  :)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So, there’s no issue.  The tutorial is very specific and that’s fine, 
>>>>>>>> postings like this which directly deal with Apple’s hardware/software 
>>>>>>>> are perfectly acceptable and, indeed, very much welcomed within the 
>>>>>>>> group.  We would certainly not wish to deny the members of this group 
>>>>>>>> the opportunity of trying your recommendations.  So, thanks for the 
>>>>>>>> post.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 12 Jan 2014, at 04:40, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all. After doing this, I thought I’d share with you all who I 
>>>>>>>> managed this. Yes this is off topic, but you all can spread it around, 
>>>>>>>> I’m sure. First, I go to gmail.google.com, with standard view. I press 
>>>>>>>> left and right arrows to turn quick nag off, and press up and down 
>>>>>>>> arrows to focus  on the table of messages. Er, that’s Quick Nav, not 
>>>>>>>> quick nag. Anyway, I press star, that’s shift 8, then A. This selects 
>

Re: ot: deleting all mail in gmail, a tutorial.

[Josh Gregory]

This might be practically impossible, the standard Gmail view really is not 
accessible from any Mac. Tried it earlier to know avail, and the basic HTML 
link I couldn't find either.

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> On Jan 14, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Maybe  that's our issue. How do you turn key board shortcuts on? Maybe that's 
> the difference between your set up and all of ours?
> 
> Take care.
>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 7:56 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm really not sure what y’all's problem is. All I know is what I got. 
>> Keyboard shortcuts in gmail 1s on. Mail per page is 100. That's all I know.
>> Sent from my braille plus 18
>> 
>> Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have the same results, what settings are you using  this Devin?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I tried  that, and it didn't work in chrome.  The empty trash  thing was 
>>>> not able to be clicked and the select all thing was not there. I got out 
>>>> of the table and vo left once and never found a select all. Using the 
>>>> latest of os, safari nd chrome here.
>>>>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you. And to the person that said vo doesn't say "all 100 messages 
>>>>> are selected", after pressing star a, it won't, unless you use chrome, I 
>>>>> think. After pressing star a, stop interacting with the table, go left, 
>>>>> and you'll see a heading, go right from there, and you'll see the option 
>>>>> to select all mail and such. And yes, this works with any folder in 
>>>>> gmail, including the lovely trash folder.
>>>>> Sent from my braille plus 18
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Gordon, Lynne & Tracy"  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just for future reference, If you know something is off topic for this 
>>>>>> group, please do not post it to the group without first asking the list 
>>>>>> owners, i.e., Mac Access Support, if it’s alright to do so.  However, 
>>>>>> since your post is very specifically related to Apple’s platform, it is 
>>>>>> not, in actual fact, off topic at all.  :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, there’s no issue.  The tutorial is very specific and that’s fine, 
>>>>>> postings like this which directly deal with Apple’s hardware/software 
>>>>>> are perfectly acceptable and, indeed, very much welcomed within the 
>>>>>> group.  We would certainly not wish to deny the members of this group 
>>>>>> the opportunity of trying your recommendations.  So, thanks for the post.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12 Jan 2014, at 04:40, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all. After doing this, I thought I’d share with you all who I managed 
>>>>>> this. Yes this is off topic, but you all can spread it around, I’m sure. 
>>>>>> First, I go to gmail.google.com, with standard view. I press left and 
>>>>>> right arrows to turn quick nag off, and press up and down arrows to 
>>>>>> focus  on the table of messages. Er, that’s Quick Nav, not quick nag. 
>>>>>> Anyway, I press star, that’s shift 8, then A. This selects all the 
>>>>>> messages on the page. Then, I press number, or hash, or pound, which is 
>>>>>> shift 3. That deletes all selected messages. Now, this is in the inbox, 
>>>>>> and while it will be helpful on android devices and gmail web views, 
>>>>>> Apple mail, apparently, shows all mail that is not from you or in its 
>>>>>> trash folder. So, you’ll have to go to all mail. So, press right or left 
>>>>>> arrow until you hear something like inbox link. Keep quick Nav off 
>>>>>> throughout this whole thing. While these are links, which you can click 
>>>>>> on with VO space, you arrow down through them, like menu options. Then, 
>>>>>> when you’ve reached All Mail, press enter. You’ll be placed in the list 
>>>>>> of all your mail, every last one, including google chats and such. Here, 
>>>>>> select all as described above, star then A. Then, move out of the table, 
>>>>>> and you’ll find “all X

Re: Canadian Holiday Calendar in Mavericks.

[Josh Gregory]

So are we saying that, in Mavericks, there is a way to add calendars?

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> On Jan 13, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jim,
> 
> Posting this again, since apparently my reply went to Leo, rather than the 
> list. (Grrr… have to figure out how to reconfigure my devices).
> 
> I thought that the holiday calendar was selected automatically once you 
> selected your region and languages under System Preferences > Language & 
> Region.  For example, if I change my region from "United States" under the 
> region pop up button to "Canada" by first selecting "Americas" and the 
> Canada, examining the Calendar for the week of Christmas will show an entry 
> for "Boxing Day" on Thursday, December 26, 2013.  There will be a note that 
> this event belongs to calendar " Canadian Holidays".
> 
> As for adding different types of calendars pre-Mavericks. There's an 
> iCalShare web site mentioned at AppleVis that lets you download specific 
> holiday and sports calendars and share them on line.  That works all the way 
> back to Snow Leopard.  The URL is:
> 
> http://www.icalshare.com
> 
> Apple also has a set of downloadable iCal calendars at:
> http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/calendars
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Leo Bissonnette wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> While I don’t know how to get it in Mavricks for the Mac, I do remember that 
>> on AppleVis there was a very helpful podcast on how to get various types of 
>> calendars. Through that podcast I got one for Canadian Holidays and for one 
>> of the teams I follow.
>> 
>> Check out:
>> 
>> www.applevis.com
>> 
>> Hope that helps a little.
>> 
>> Leo
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm. I never saw that in mavericks. I just have the ones I created. Where 
>>> did you hear this calendar was going to be in mavericks? I might have 
>>> missed it when I last checked up on the key notes. 
>>> 
>>> Tc.
 On Jan 13, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:
 
 Hi Folks:
 
 How does one access a Canadian holiday calendar in Mavericks?
 
 Thanks all over the place.
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Re: ot: deleting all mail in gmail, a tutorial.

[Josh Gregory]

I have the same results, what settings are you using  this Devin?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> I tried  that, and it didn't work in chrome.  The empty trash  thing was not 
> able to be clicked and the select all thing was not there. I got out of the 
> table and vo left once and never found a select all. Using the latest of os, 
> safari nd chrome here.
>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you. And to the person that said vo doesn't say "all 100 messages are 
>> selected", after pressing star a, it won't, unless you use chrome, I think. 
>> After pressing star a, stop interacting with the table, go left, and you'll 
>> see a heading, go right from there, and you'll see the option to select all 
>> mail and such. And yes, this works with any folder in gmail, including the 
>> lovely trash folder.
>> Sent from my braille plus 18
>> 
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>> 
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> Just for future reference, If you know something is off topic for this 
>>> group, please do not post it to the group without first asking the list 
>>> owners, i.e., Mac Access Support, if it’s alright to do so.  However, since 
>>> your post is very specifically related to Apple’s platform, it is not, in 
>>> actual fact, off topic at all.  :)
>>> 
>>> So, there’s no issue.  The tutorial is very specific and that’s fine, 
>>> postings like this which directly deal with Apple’s hardware/software are 
>>> perfectly acceptable and, indeed, very much welcomed within the group.  We 
>>> would certainly not wish to deny the members of this group the opportunity 
>>> of trying your recommendations.  So, thanks for the post.
>>> 
>>> On 12 Jan 2014, at 04:40, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all. After doing this, I thought I’d share with you all who I managed 
>>> this. Yes this is off topic, but you all can spread it around, I’m sure. 
>>> First, I go to gmail.google.com, with standard view. I press left and right 
>>> arrows to turn quick nag off, and press up and down arrows to focus  on the 
>>> table of messages. Er, that’s Quick Nav, not quick nag. Anyway, I press 
>>> star, that’s shift 8, then A. This selects all the messages on the page. 
>>> Then, I press number, or hash, or pound, which is shift 3. That deletes all 
>>> selected messages. Now, this is in the inbox, and while it will be helpful 
>>> on android devices and gmail web views, Apple mail, apparently, shows all 
>>> mail that is not from you or in its trash folder. So, you’ll have to go to 
>>> all mail. So, press right or left arrow until you hear something like inbox 
>>> link. Keep quick Nav off throughout this whole thing. While these are 
>>> links, which you can click on with VO space, you arrow down through them, 
>>> like menu options. Then, when you’ve reached All Mail, press enter. You’ll 
>>> be placed in the list of all your mail, every last one, including google 
>>> chats and such. Here, select all as described above, star then A. Then, 
>>> move out of the table, and you’ll find “all X of the messages on this page 
>>> are selected. Click to select all Y in all mail.” X being the number of 
>>> messages you have set to display per page, and Y being the total. So then, 
>>> click the link, and you have all 8 or so emails and chats selected. 
>>> Then, press the hash/pound/number, and you’ll be presented with a dialog. 
>>> Click okay. Another dialogue will proceed it, click okay. Then, close the 
>>> tag and wait for an hour or so, and your gmail will be cleansed of all the 
>>> mutterings of a long-abandoned email list and exs and all the other 
>>> memories you’d prefer not to have lingering around.
>>> 
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Re: Finding the Computer's ID

[Josh Gregory]

Yes I've seen it before, quite a nice little utility.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 9, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> The "About This Mac" function provides all sorts of useful information and 
> statistics about your machine, you can even look up support pages for your 
> particular Mac such as tech specs and so on at the click of a button.
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2014, at 2:33 am, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh that's what that is! Okay thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Dane Trethowan  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've installed - or tried to install - OSX on a whole range of different 
>>> Mac machines and I do recall being asked for this once, actually it was 
>>> referred to as the computer serial number which - as I said earlier - can 
>>> be found in About This Mac under the Apple menu, you can copy the number to 
>>> your clipboard and paste it into the field on the web page or whatever.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10 Jan 2014, at 1:38 am, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I was never asked for this, where do you find it?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 9, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Dane Trethowan  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It I'm sure I saw the same thing when I tried to upgrade one of my older 
>>>>> machines, I guess its part of the check that's performed to see if your 
>>>>> machine is compatible with OSX Mavericks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 Jan 2014, at 9:14 pm, Matthew Chao  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I read somewhere on the AFB AccessWorld web site that Mavericks asks you 
>>>>>> for the computer ID.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Matthew Chao
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At 08:20 PM 1/8/2014, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Why do you need the conpyter's ID? Can you not just go to the app 
>>>>>>> store, downed the app and install it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Dane Trethowan  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I suggest you have a look in About This Mac under the Apple Menu.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 9 Jan 2014, at 9:12 am, Matthew Chao  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Folks.  Am looking into upgrading to Mavericks.  However, need 
>>>>>>>>> the computer's ID.  How do I find that before proceeding?  Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Matthew Chao
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access 
>>>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, 
>>>>>>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace 
>>>>>>>>> your own security strategy.  We assume neither liability nor 
>>>>>>>>> responsibility should something unpredictable happen.
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>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at:
>>>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-acce

Re: Finding the Computer's ID

[Josh Gregory]

Oh that's what that is! Okay thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 9, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> I've installed - or tried to install - OSX on a whole range of different Mac 
> machines and I do recall being asked for this once, actually it was referred 
> to as the computer serial number which - as I said earlier - can be found in 
> About This Mac under the Apple menu, you can copy the number to your 
> clipboard and paste it into the field on the web page or whatever.
> 
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2014, at 1:38 am, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> I was never asked for this, where do you find it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It I'm sure I saw the same thing when I tried to upgrade one of my older 
>>> machines, I guess its part of the check that's performed to see if your 
>>> machine is compatible with OSX Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 9 Jan 2014, at 9:14 pm, Matthew Chao  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I read somewhere on the AFB AccessWorld web site that Mavericks asks you 
>>>> for the computer ID.
>>>> 
>>>> Matthew Chao
>>>> 
>>>> At 08:20 PM 1/8/2014, you wrote:
>>>>> Why do you need the conpyter's ID? Can you not just go to the app store, 
>>>>> downed the app and install it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Dane Trethowan  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suggest you have a look in About This Mac under the Apple Menu.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9 Jan 2014, at 9:12 am, Matthew Chao  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi, Folks.  Am looking into upgrading to Mavericks.  However, need the 
>>>>>>> computer's ID.  How do I find that before proceeding?  Thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Matthew Chao
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access 
>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
>>>>>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus 
>>>>>>> and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own 
>>>>>>> security strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility 
>>>>>>> should something unpredictable happen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>>>>> visiting the list website at:
>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> **
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>>>> Skype: grtdane12
>>>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>>>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>>>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>>>>>> Mobile: +61400494862
>>>>>> Fax +61397437954
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access 
>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>>> or at the publ

Re: Finding the Computer's ID

[Josh Gregory]

No I don't think it is that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 9, 2014, at 10:01 AM, isaac  wrote:
> 
> That is probably the user name you use to log in to you’re mac. 
>> On Jan 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> I was never asked for this, where do you find it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It I'm sure I saw the same thing when I tried to upgrade one of my older 
>>> machines, I guess its part of the check that's performed to see if your 
>>> machine is compatible with OSX Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 9 Jan 2014, at 9:14 pm, Matthew Chao  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I read somewhere on the AFB AccessWorld web site that Mavericks asks you 
>>>> for the computer ID.
>>>> 
>>>> Matthew Chao
>>>> 
>>>> At 08:20 PM 1/8/2014, you wrote:
>>>>> Why do you need the conpyter's ID? Can you not just go to the app store, 
>>>>> downed the app and install it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Dane Trethowan  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suggest you have a look in About This Mac under the Apple Menu.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9 Jan 2014, at 9:12 am, Matthew Chao  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi, Folks.  Am looking into upgrading to Mavericks.  However, need the 
>>>>>>> computer's ID.  How do I find that before proceeding?  Thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Matthew Chao
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access 
>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
>>>>>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus 
>>>>>>> and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own 
>>>>>>> security strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility 
>>>>>>> should something unpredictable happen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>>>>> visiting the list website at:
>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> **
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>>>> Skype: grtdane12
>>>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>>>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>>>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>>>>>> Mobile: +61400494862
>>>>>> Fax +61397437954
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access 
>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net admin

Re: Finding the Computer's ID

[Josh Gregory]

I was never asked for this, where do you find it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 9, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> It I'm sure I saw the same thing when I tried to upgrade one of my older 
> machines, I guess its part of the check that's performed to see if your 
> machine is compatible with OSX Mavericks.
> 
> 
>> On 9 Jan 2014, at 9:14 pm, Matthew Chao  wrote:
>> 
>> I read somewhere on the AFB AccessWorld web site that Mavericks asks you for 
>> the computer ID.
>> 
>> Matthew Chao
>> 
>> At 08:20 PM 1/8/2014, you wrote:
>>> Why do you need the conpyter's ID? Can you not just go to the app store, 
>>> downed the app and install it?
>>> 
>>> Take care.
 On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Dane Trethowan  
 wrote:
 
 I suggest you have a look in About This Mac under the Apple Menu.
 
> On 9 Jan 2014, at 9:12 am, Matthew Chao  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Folks.  Am looking into upgrading to Mavericks.  However, need the 
> computer's ID.  How do I find that before proceeding?  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew Chao
> 
> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
> mac-access@mac-access.net
> 
> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
> 
> or at the public Mail Archive:
> .
> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
> 
> 
> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus 
> and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should 
> something unpredictable happen.
> 
> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
> visiting the list website at:
> 
 
 
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>> 

Re: Downloading youtube videos.

[Josh Gregory]

Nice, thanks very much.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Yes you can.  I convert my mp4s to audio using other tools but it sure works 
> and works well.
> 
> Tc.
>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 12:59 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>> How is it possible to download with this application, can you then converted 
>> to other video formats or audio?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 3:46 AM, George Cham  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks sarah
>>> Found it .
>>> Will download tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> George,
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Jan 2014, at 7:27 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello. Not sure if it is still at http://www.macupdate.com but look for 
>>>> mactubes. it will be what you want. I've been using this software since 
>>>> 2010 and I love it. Now that the dev put help tags in it will make 
>>>> navigation much much easier.
>>>> 
>>>> Tc.
>>>>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 12:00 AM, George Cham  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone, firstly, happy new year. 
>>>>> I am wanting to download videos from youtube, using the Mac. 
>>>>> Is there a website or software that I can get to save videos? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Typed With Fleksy
>>>>> reply://george.c...@outlook.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> ,Georgel  Sent from my iPad
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>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
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>>>>> and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
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>>>> 
>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>> 
>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>> 
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>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
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>>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
>>>> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>>>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
>>>> unpredictable happen.
>>>> 
>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>> visiting the list website at:
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>>> 
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>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>> 
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>>> at either the list's 

Re: Downloading youtube videos.

[Josh Gregory]

Nice, I had no idea that could be done. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> In case I'm not around, to download a video  vo shift m on the button after 
> the html viewing area, then click download and mp4.
> 
> Take care and hth.
>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 12:46 AM, George Cham  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks sarah
>> Found it .
>> Will download tomorrow.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> George,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 1 Jan 2014, at 7:27 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello. Not sure if it is still at http://www.macupdate.com but look for 
>>> mactubes. it will be what you want. I've been using this software since 
>>> 2010 and I love it. Now that the dev put help tags in it will make 
>>> navigation much much easier.
>>> 
>>> Tc.
 On Jan 1, 2014, at 12:00 AM, George Cham  
 wrote:
 
 
 Hi everyone, firstly, happy new year. 
 I am wanting to download videos from youtube, using the Mac. 
 Is there a website or software that I can get to save videos? 
 
 Typed With Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 ,Georgel  Sent from my iPad
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> 
> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
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Re: Downloading youtube videos.

[Josh Gregory]

How is it possible to download with this application, can you then converted to 
other video formats or audio?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2014, at 3:46 AM, George Cham  wrote:
> 
> Thanks sarah
> Found it .
> Will download tomorrow.
> 
> 
> 
> George,
> 
>  Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 1 Jan 2014, at 7:27 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello. Not sure if it is still at http://www.macupdate.com but look for 
>> mactubes. it will be what you want. I've been using this software since 2010 
>> and I love it. Now that the dev put help tags in it will make navigation 
>> much much easier.
>> 
>> Tc.
>>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 12:00 AM, George Cham  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, firstly, happy new year. 
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Re: about iPhone5 reading my buttons on my CD-Writer

[Josh Gregory]

Lol it's all good, me too. Happy new year!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2014, at 12:26 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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> I do this all the time! Roar! I meant viswis.  That app rocks and they did 
> help me read the business card  I had trouble with.
>> On Dec 31, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
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>> How does that work, I don't think they have an iPhone app.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Dec 31, 2013, at 11:42 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would try webvisum. you will get a live person to help you there. It even 
>>> read my business card I had as I needed to get some info off of it.
>>> 
>>> Good luck.
>>>> On Dec 31, 2013, at 8:32 PM, meadowlark77  wrote:
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>>>> Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> I did tryit with Tap Tap See, and that was the closest I could get. It 
>>>> said:
>>>> 
>>>> Remote Control"
>>>> 
>>>> but there are so many buttons on that player and they are probably, like 
>>>> one 
>>>> of ya said, icons.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for all help everybody gave. No go.
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Re: about iPhone5 reading my buttons on my CD-Writer

[Josh Gregory]

How does that work, I don't think they have an iPhone app.

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> On Dec 31, 2013, at 11:42 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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> I would try webvisum. you will get a live person to help you there. It even 
> read my business card I had as I needed to get some info off of it.
> 
> Good luck.
>> On Dec 31, 2013, at 8:32 PM, meadowlark77  wrote:
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>> Hello all,
>> 
>>   I did tryit with Tap Tap See, and that was the closest I could get. It 
>> said:
>> 
>> Remote Control"
>> 
>> but there are so many buttons on that player and they are probably, like one 
>> of ya said, icons.
>> 
>>   Thanks for all help everybody gave. No go.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
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