Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-30 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Yep. I did all of that except it never shows up wiht the services.  and I 
checked all 111 of mine.
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Blessings. 
> On Nov 30, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Sarah,
> 
> MoveMouse works just fine in Yosemite. You have to copy the MoveMouse Unix 
> Executable File to the clipboard and then press Cmd-Shift-a and paste it 
> there. You then have to go to Library and open Services. That’s where you 
> paste the four work flows. You then open System Preferences and go to the 
> Keyboard tab. You’ll find the four MoveMouse functions under Services. Give 
> each one a shortcut and you’re good to go.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2014, at 01:17, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> I think we've got an issue.  The utility does not work  as advertised. when 
>> you unzip the 4 work flows folder appears, but the 4 work flows appear under 
>> that folder as well. Also the move mouse is not an app but a unix executable 
>> with no extension. running it does not make it appear in the extras menu, 
>> nor do the services appear in the  keyboard prefs. I followed the directions 
>> to the letter as Iv'e done stuff like this before. I'm running Yosemite so 
>> maybe something in it broke.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-30 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

MoveMouse works just fine in Yosemite. You have to copy the MoveMouse Unix 
Executable File to the clipboard and then press Cmd-Shift-a and paste it there. 
You then have to go to Library and open Services. That’s where you paste the 
four work flows. You then open System Preferences and go to the Keyboard tab. 
You’ll find the four MoveMouse functions under Services. Give each one a 
shortcut and you’re good to go.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 30 Nov 2014, at 01:17, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> I think we've got an issue.  The utility does not work  as advertised. when 
> you unzip the 4 work flows folder appears, but the 4 work flows appear under 
> that folder as well. Also the move mouse is not an app but a unix executable 
> with no extension. running it does not make it appear in the extras menu, nor 
> do the services appear in the  keyboard prefs. I followed the directions to 
> the letter as Iv'e done stuff like this before. I'm running Yosemite so maybe 
> something in it broke.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-30 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

Of course I’ve e-mailed Accessibility. I always do, for what it’s worth.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 29 Nov 2014, at 23:07, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> have you emailed accessibil...@apple.com  
> with yoru findings?
> 
> Take care. 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-29 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I think we've got an issue.  The utility does not work  as advertised. when you 
unzip the 4 work flows folder appears, but the 4 work flows appear under that 
folder as well. Also the move mouse is not an app but a unix executable with no 
extension. running it does not make it appear in the extras menu, nor do the 
services appear in the  keyboard prefs. I followed the directions to the letter 
as Iv'e done stuff like this before. I'm running Yosemite so maybe something in 
it broke.
> On Nov 29, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Phil,
> 
> Here’s the link to get MoveMouse:
>  >
> 
> Read the installation notes carefully and it should all work fine. I set the 
> shortcuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-Arrow key according to the direction of movement.
> 
> MoveMouse doesn’t work in popovers unfortunately. You still need to use 
> Mousekeys there, or the trackpad if you have a steady hand. I prefer to use 
> the trackpad as it avoids having to remember to turn Mousekeys off again.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 29 Nov 2014, at 21:25, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> Ann, could you refresh our memories as to were we can get this “move mouse” 
>> utility? A google search brought up a lot of somewhat ambiguous results. I’m 
>> just starting to use Pages again and I think its time to get hold of this 
>> mouse move utility.
>> thanks
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
>>> contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any 
>>> elements in the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, 
>>> those checkboxes are inaccessible with VO.
>>> 
>>> However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows 
>>> you to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using 
>>> the mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite 
>>> close, so only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right 
>>> requires around ten moves right.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-29 Thread Sarah k Alawami
have you emailed accessibil...@apple.com  with 
yoru findings?

Take care. 
> On Nov 29, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
> contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any elements 
> in the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, those 
> checkboxes are inaccessible with VO.
> 
> However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows 
> you to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using 
> the mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite 
> close, so only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right 
> requires around ten moves right.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Phil,

Here’s the link to get MoveMouse:
>

Read the installation notes carefully and it should all work fine. I set the 
shortcuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-Arrow key according to the direction of movement.

MoveMouse doesn’t work in popovers unfortunately. You still need to use 
Mousekeys there, or the trackpad if you have a steady hand. I prefer to use the 
trackpad as it avoids having to remember to turn Mousekeys off again.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 29 Nov 2014, at 21:25, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Ann, could you refresh our memories as to were we can get this “move mouse” 
> utility? A google search brought up a lot of somewhat ambiguous results. I’m 
> just starting to use Pages again and I think its time to get hold of this 
> mouse move utility.
> thanks
> 
> On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
>> contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any elements 
>> in the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, those 
>> checkboxes are inaccessible with VO.
>> 
>> However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows 
>> you to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using 
>> the mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite 
>> close, so only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right 
>> requires around ten moves right.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-29 Thread Phil Halton
Ann, could you refresh our memories as to were we can get this “move mouse” 
utility? A google search brought up a lot of somewhat ambiguous results. I’m 
just starting to use Pages again and I think its time to get hold of this mouse 
move utility.
thanks

On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
> contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any elements 
> in the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, those 
> checkboxes are inaccessible with VO.
> 
> However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows 
> you to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using 
> the mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite 
> close, so only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right 
> requires around ten moves right.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
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[Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello all,

Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any elements in 
the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, those checkboxes 
are inaccessible with VO.

However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows you 
to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using the 
mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite close, so 
only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right requires around 
ten moves right.

Cheers,

Anne


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