Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting columns and rows in Numbers.

[Nicholas Parsons]

Well I'll copy it here for you:
Phil Halton 
 I find the easiest way to select a column or row is to move to the first cell 
you want to start the selection with, and then press shift command down arrow 
for columns, or right arrow for rows.
There are many other options available by entering the header with shift VO | 
(the key above the enter key). Once you press that key combo, you are in a list 
(vo doesn’t always announce this list). up and down arrow and press enter or VO 
space on either the column or row reference tab in that list, depending on 
whether you want to work with a column or a row. You then arrow right or left 
to move to the desired column, or up and down to move to the desired row tab.
Press Vo Space on the desired column or row reference tab to select it. I 
believe that selects the entire row/column. Also, with the desired tab 
selected, press shift VO +M to bring up the context menu for that row/column. 
in there you can do all sorts of things including sorting and filtering data.
Very important! Don’t forget to exit the header with shift VO |  again when 
you’re done, to return to regular spreadsheet operations. 
Also, I think that once you exit the header, your selection is no longer 
selected, so do your copy etc while in the header. (I could be wrong on that - 
I just tried it quickly before writing this post).

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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting columns and rows in Numbers.

[Sean Murphy]

I never got the message. That is the issue.
On 6 Dec 2014, at 4:26 pm, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> Sean, Phil answered you pretty comprehensively. What part are you unclear 
> about?
> 
> Daniel, in what way aren’t you able to work with them? If you navigate with 
> just the arrow keys, VoiceOver will announce which cells are merged, but will 
> not announce their contents. If you navigate with the VO keys to the top left 
> most cell in the merged block, VoiceOver will read the contents. To work with 
> or edit these merged cells you can just use your normal editing commands. 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting columns and rows in Numbers.

[Nicholas Parsons]

Sean, Phil answered you pretty comprehensively. What part are you unclear about?

Daniel, in what way aren’t you able to work with them? If you navigate with 
just the arrow keys, VoiceOver will announce which cells are merged, but will 
not announce their contents. If you navigate with the VO keys to the top left 
most cell in the merged block, VoiceOver will read the contents. To work with 
or edit these merged cells you can just use your normal editing commands. 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting columns and rows in Numbers.

[Sean Murphy]

I ask the same question and didn’t see any reply from Phil. Hense, still do not 
know how to select columns and rows.

Sean 
On 5 Dec 2014, at 7:00 pm, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

> Continuing with Numbers, Can somebody lead me in how to handle combined cells 
> inside a Numbers table? There is a combined cell which I can’t work with, 
> Thanks for your help!
> Best
> 
> Daniela Rubio T
> iPhone: +34662328507
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> El 5/12/2014, a las 5:14, Nicholas Parsons  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> Phil covered selecting columns and rows comprehensively. As for VoiceOver 
>> still announcing hidden columns, this is only if you use the VO keys to 
>> navigate. If you just navigate using the arrow keys alone, as is generally 
>> the better option, then VoiceOver will only announce the visible rows and 
>> columns. This is the same when you filter your tables: navigating with VO 
>> keys will not appear any different, but if you navigate with the arrow keys 
>> alone you’ll only see the filtered rows and columns. Using VO keys to 
>> navigate can get you into mischief as the VoiceOver cursor selects invisible 
>> cells, but the keyboard cursor does not, and this can lead to undesired 
>> results.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting columns and rows in Numbers.

[Daniela Rubio]

Continuing with Numbers, Can somebody lead me in how to handle combined cells 
inside a Numbers table? There is a combined cell which I can’t work with, 
Thanks for your help!
Best

Daniela Rubio T
iPhone: +34662328507




> El 5/12/2014, a las 5:14, Nicholas Parsons  
> escribió:
> 
> Phil covered selecting columns and rows comprehensively. As for VoiceOver 
> still announcing hidden columns, this is only if you use the VO keys to 
> navigate. If you just navigate using the arrow keys alone, as is generally 
> the better option, then VoiceOver will only announce the visible rows and 
> columns. This is the same when you filter your tables: navigating with VO 
> keys will not appear any different, but if you navigate with the arrow keys 
> alone you’ll only see the filtered rows and columns. Using VO keys to 
> navigate can get you into mischief as the VoiceOver cursor selects invisible 
> cells, but the keyboard cursor does not, and this can lead to undesired 
> results.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting columns and rows in Numbers.

[Nicholas Parsons]

Phil covered selecting columns and rows comprehensively. As for VoiceOver still 
announcing hidden columns, this is only if you use the VO keys to navigate. If 
you just navigate using the arrow keys alone, as is generally the better 
option, then VoiceOver will only announce the visible rows and columns. This is 
the same when you filter your tables: navigating with VO keys will not appear 
any different, but if you navigate with the arrow keys alone you’ll only see 
the filtered rows and columns. Using VO keys to navigate can get you into 
mischief as the VoiceOver cursor selects invisible cells, but the keyboard 
cursor does not, and this can lead to undesired results.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting columns and rows in Numbers.

[Phil Halton]

I find the easiest way to select a column or row is to move to the first cell 
you want to start the selection with, and then press shift command down arrow 
for columns, or right arrow for rows.
There are many other options available by entering the header with shift VO | 
(the key above the enter key). Once you press that key combo, you are in a list 
(vo doesn’t always announce this list). up and down arrow and press enter or VO 
space on either the column or row reference tab in that list, depending on 
whether you want to work with a column or a row. You then arrow right or left 
to move to the desired column, or up and down to move to the desired row tab.
 Press Vo Space on the desired column or row reference tab to select it. I 
believe that selects the entire row/column. Also, with the desired tab 
selected, press shift VO +M to bring up the context menu for that row/column. 
in there you can do all sorts of things including sorting and filtering data.
Very important! Don’t forget to exit the header with shift VO |  again when 
you’re done, to return to regular spreadsheet operations. 
Also, I think that once you exit the header, your selection is no longer 
selected, so do your copy etc while in the header. (I could be wrong on that - 
I just tried it quickly before writing this post).
On Dec 1, 2014, at 4:01 AM, Sean Murphy  wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> First time trying to use numbers. How do you select a column or row in 
> Numbers. The help talks about clicking the table, then the letter or number. 
> Since I cannot find this, how do you do it? Also if you hide a column, VO 
> still announces it. Any ideas?
> 
> Any good VO tutorials on Numbers that are text base?
> 
> Sean 
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[Mac-access]: Selecting columns and rows in Numbers.

[Sean Murphy]

Hi all.

First time trying to use numbers. How do you select a column or row in Numbers. 
The help talks about clicking the table, then the letter or number. Since I 
cannot find this, how do you do it? Also if you hide a column, VO still 
announces it. Any ideas?

Any good VO tutorials on Numbers that are text base?

Sean 

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