Re: Adobe suspends work on accessible Flash Player for the Mac.

2012-07-13 Thread Chris Moore
I personally think Adobe Flash will vanish within the next 5 years.  Adobe have 
already stopped developing it for Android and it never arrived on iOS.  I was 
surprised to see Microsoft built support for it into IE 10 for Windows 8.  I 
expect HTML5 to replace many of the features that we came to expect from Flash.

I have uninstalled Flash from my Mac altogether, which means I don't get to see 
as many annoying ads and plus you can use YouTube via HTML5 now.  Oracle are 
another company moving away from Flash, so I honestly think Flash is doomed.

Chris 
On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:04, Bryan Jones wrote:

 Hi Folks,
 
 I guess this comes as no surprise, but it seems the folks at Adobe have 
 decided not to make FLash Player accessible on the Mac after all. Adobe made 
 a big deal back in March of 2010 when they announced their intention to make 
 Flash Player accessible on Mac, Linux  Windows. The promise has gone 
 unfulfilled on the Mac and this evening an Adobe representative posted the 
 following as part of a reply to a blog comment:
 
 Begin quote from Adobe representative
 As far as the accessible version of the Flash Player for the Mac, we 
 announced at CSUN about a change in focus for the Flash Player – the Flash 
 Player focus is on casual gaming and video – and the current guidance is to 
 use native controls rather than embedding them within the Flash Player. As a 
 result, the plan to deliver a Flash Player for the Mac with accessibility 
 support was suspended.
 End quote from Adobe representative
 
 I guess the silver lining here is the fact that Adobe mentions native 
 controls which I hope means something potentially more accessible.
 
 Link to the full blog post, which is not specifically addressing Flash 
 Player. The quote comes from the comments section.
 http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2012/06/ruling-on-accessibility-and-the-ada.html#comments
 
 Link to Adobe's March 2010 post announcig the good news about forthcoming 
 Flash accessibility:
 http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html
 
 Bryan
 
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Re: Adobe suspends work on accessible Flash Player for the Mac.

2012-07-13 Thread Chris G
Lets all thank Steve Jobs and Apple for the demise of flash.  Apple 
didn't want it on IOS and if you are a web site that wants to reach the 
widest group of people, you don't use flash.  Using flash makes it so 
everyone with an iOS device can't view your site.


It is my understanding while flash works on Android it is slow and not a 
good user experience.  By works, i'm refering to sited users, not sure 
if flash is accessible on Android.




On 7/13/2012 3:27 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

I personally think Adobe Flash will vanish within the next 5 years.  Adobe have 
already stopped developing it for Android and it never arrived on iOS.  I was 
surprised to see Microsoft built support for it into IE 10 for Windows 8.  I 
expect HTML5 to replace many of the features that we came to expect from Flash.

I have uninstalled Flash from my Mac altogether, which means I don't get to see 
as many annoying ads and plus you can use YouTube via HTML5 now.  Oracle are 
another company moving away from Flash, so I honestly think Flash is doomed.

Chris
On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:04, Bryan Jones wrote:


Hi Folks,

I guess this comes as no surprise, but it seems the folks at Adobe have decided not 
to make FLash Player accessible on the Mac after all. Adobe made a big deal back in 
March of 2010 when they announced their intention to make Flash Player accessible 
on Mac, Linux  Windows. The promise has gone unfulfilled on the Mac and this 
evening an Adobe representative posted the following as part of a reply to a blog 
comment:

Begin quote from Adobe representative
As far as the accessible version of the Flash Player for the Mac, we announced at 
CSUN about a change in focus for the Flash Player – the Flash Player focus is on casual 
gaming and video – and the current guidance is to use native controls rather than 
embedding them within the Flash Player. As a result, the plan to deliver a Flash Player 
for the Mac with accessibility support was suspended.
End quote from Adobe representative

I guess the silver lining here is the fact that Adobe mentions native 
controls which I hope means something potentially more accessible.

Link to the full blog post, which is not specifically addressing Flash Player. 
The quote comes from the comments section.
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2012/06/ruling-on-accessibility-and-the-ada.html#comments

Link to Adobe's March 2010 post announcig the good news about forthcoming 
Flash accessibility:
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html

Bryan

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Re: Adobe suspends work on accessible Flash Player for the Mac.

2012-07-13 Thread Mike Arrigo
Adobe is also moving away from flash on android and other mobile platforms, 
hopefully web developers will get rid of flash and move to html 5, that's the 
real solution here.
On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:

 Hi Folks,
 
 I guess this comes as no surprise, but it seems the folks at Adobe have 
 decided not to make FLash Player accessible on the Mac after all. Adobe made 
 a big deal back in March of 2010 when they announced their intention to make 
 Flash Player accessible on Mac, Linux  Windows. The promise has gone 
 unfulfilled on the Mac and this evening an Adobe representative posted the 
 following as part of a reply to a blog comment:
 
 Begin quote from Adobe representative
 As far as the accessible version of the Flash Player for the Mac, we 
 announced at CSUN about a change in focus for the Flash Player – the Flash 
 Player focus is on casual gaming and video – and the current guidance is to 
 use native controls rather than embedding them within the Flash Player. As a 
 result, the plan to deliver a Flash Player for the Mac with accessibility 
 support was suspended.
 End quote from Adobe representative
 
 I guess the silver lining here is the fact that Adobe mentions native 
 controls which I hope means something potentially more accessible.
 
 Link to the full blog post, which is not specifically addressing Flash 
 Player. The quote comes from the comments section.
 http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2012/06/ruling-on-accessibility-and-the-ada.html#comments
 
 Link to Adobe's March 2010 post announcig the good news about forthcoming 
 Flash accessibility:
 http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html
 
 Bryan
 
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