Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Chris Apple boy 
No but I bet you left/right arrows the standard ones would work just the 
same or vo-left/vo-right arrows.


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On 19/03/2014 16:42, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Ah well I don't have a number pad so culd not do that last thing.
- Original Message - From: "Chris Apple boy"

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web



Sounds good will try this cheers.

Regards Chris

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On 19/03/2014 12:57, Travis Siegel wrote:

Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you activate
groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a single
group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less
keypressing needed tonavigate your documents.  I never use anything
else.  Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they don't
like the fact that you need to interact with the groups if you wish to
click a link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this isn't
even a consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to move along
until I find the piece I want, then interact, then go where I need to
go, especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then all I need
to do is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander turned on,
andhave vo functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each right arrow
press gets me the next chunk of text.  Simple and convinient.
hth.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that
the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow
so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there
are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how
many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on
any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another
web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on
a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!
Thanks.

Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread isaac 
Have you also that about using the quick nav
 feature? You can assign commands to quick nag to get to things faster such as 
links headings lists and check boxes and text fields.On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:42 
AM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> Ah well I don't have a number pad so culd not do that last thing.
> - Original Message - From: "Chris Apple boy" 
> 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
> 
> 
>> Sounds good will try this cheers.
>> 
>> Regards Chris
>> 
>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>> 
>> On 19/03/2014 12:57, Travis Siegel wrote:
>>> Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you activate
>>> groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a single
>>> group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less
>>> keypressing needed tonavigate your documents.  I never use anything
>>> else.  Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they don't
>>> like the fact that you need to interact with the groups if you wish to
>>> click a link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this isn't
>>> even a consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to move along
>>> until I find the piece I want, then interact, then go where I need to
>>> go, especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then all I need
>>> to do is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander turned on,
>>> andhave vo functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each right arrow
>>> press gets me the next chunk of text.  Simple and convinient.
>>> hth.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an
>>>> effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that
>>>> navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that
>>>> the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow
>>>> so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there
>>>> are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even
>>>> longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how
>>>> many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on
>>>> any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another
>>>> web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on
>>>> a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke 

Ah well I don't have a number pad so culd not do that last thing.
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Apple boy" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web



Sounds good will try this cheers.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 19/03/2014 12:57, Travis Siegel wrote:

Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you activate
groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a single
group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less
keypressing needed tonavigate your documents.  I never use anything
else.  Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they don't
like the fact that you need to interact with the groups if you wish to
click a link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this isn't
even a consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to move along
until I find the piece I want, then interact, then go where I need to
go, especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then all I need
to do is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander turned on,
andhave vo functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each right arrow
press gets me the next chunk of text.  Simple and convinient.
hth.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that
the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow
so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there
are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how
many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on
any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another
web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on
a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!
Thanks.

Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Chris Apple boy 

Sounds good will try this cheers.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 19/03/2014 12:57, Travis Siegel wrote:

Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you activate
groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a single
group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less
keypressing needed tonavigate your documents.  I never use anything
else.  Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they don't
like the fact that you need to interact with the groups if you wish to
click a link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this isn't
even a consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to move along
until I find the piece I want, then interact, then go where I need to
go, especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then all I need
to do is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander turned on,
andhave vo functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each right arrow
press gets me the next chunk of text.  Simple and convinient.
hth.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that
the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow
so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there
are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how
many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on
any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another
web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on
a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!
Thanks.

Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread alberto 
Hi, if you hit vo u you can hit either right arrow or left arrow, and it will 
switch your elements from links to headings and so on when you have chose your 
option for exam headings you can hit 1 or 2 letters of the specific heading you 
are looking for and it will take you there by arrowing down then when you found 
the option you want just use enter to stop there.
Now you can also use the command f keys to find stuff by typing it in.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:25 AM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> Yes but what I want is to cut time and instead of arrowing down through all 
> the links say, I want to ump to link 10 is there a way of doing that?
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
> 
> 
>> Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, you 
>> can just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter options
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate 
>>> this way with the arrow keys?
>>> - Original Message ----- From: "Josh Gregory" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up arrows 
>>>> together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the up-and-down arrows 
>>>> to navigate through the selected elements. To go.back aPage, press command 
>>>> and the left bracket key together, to go forward, command and the right 
>>>> bracket together.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
>>>>> effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
>>>>> navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the 
>>>>> only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 
>>>>> presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are no 
>>>>> headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I can 
>>>>> bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, 
>>>>> headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these 
>>>>> just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and want 
>>>>> to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows machine 
>>>>> with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eleanor
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>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread isaac 
To activate groups mode go to the voiceover utility then go to web then go to 
navigation then  then choose the radio button grouping items  navigate webpages 
by radio button.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> I am not making myself clear, I understand how to open a link, what I do not 
> understand is that when I operate the rota and it is on links and tells me 
> there are 102 links, how I can access these links e.g. by way of a list of 
> links.
> - Original Message - From: "isaac" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
> 
> 
>> First when you locate the link you want in to the rotor  first press enter 
>> then press vo space bar to open the link.
>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Eleanor Burke  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes but what I want is to cut time and instead of arrowing down through all 
>>> the links say, I want to ump to link 10 is there a way of doing that?
>>> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, 
>>>> you can just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter 
>>>> options
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate 
>>>>> this way with the arrow keys?
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
>>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up 
>>>>>> arrows together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the 
>>>>>> up-and-down arrows to navigate through the selected elements. To go.back 
>>>>>> aPage, press command and the left bracket key together, to go forward, 
>>>>>> command and the right bracket together.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
>>>>>>> effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
>>>>>>> navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that 
>>>>>>> the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow 
>>>>>>> so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are 
>>>>>>> no headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I 
>>>>>>> can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, 
>>>>>>> headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these 
>>>>>>> just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and 
>>>>>>> want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows 
>>>>>>> machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread William Lomas 
Go to voiceover utility web section in the table and turn on group mode in their

On 19 Mar 2014, at 14:44, "Eleanor Burke"  wrote:

> How do I activate groups mode then? Sounds good to me.
> - Original Message - From: "Travis Siegel" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
> 
> 
>> Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you  activate 
>> groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a  single group, 
>> which get read all at once, so there's considerably less keypressing needed 
>> tonavigate your documents.  I never use anything  else. Most folks who don't 
>> use groups mode do so because they don't  like the fact that you need to 
>> interact with the groups if you wish to  click a link or navigate a table by 
>> rows/columns, but for me, this  isn't even a consideration, because I find 
>> it a whole lot easier to  move along until I find the piece I want, then 
>> interact, then go where  I need to go, especially if I'm just reading a book 
>> or something, then  all I need to do is press right arrow (I have the numpad 
>> commander  turned on, andhave vo functions assigned to the arrow keys) and 
>> each  right arrow press gets me the next chunk of text.  Simple and  
>> convinient.
>> hth.
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>> 
>>> I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
>>> effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked  that 
>>> navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are  that the 
>>> only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right  arrow so 10 
>>> presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if  there are no 
>>> headings in between, in which case it will take me even  longer.  I can 
>>> bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me  how many links, 
>>> headings etc there are but pressing enter once or  twice on any of these 
>>> just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to  another web page and want 
>>> to go back I do not know how to do this,  so quick on a Windows machine 
>>> with a 2 key press and I am back.   Please help!  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Eleanor
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>> 
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke 

How do I activate groups mode then? Sounds good to me.
- Original Message - 
From: "Travis Siegel" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you  activate 
groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a  single 
group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less 
keypressing needed tonavigate your documents.  I never use anything  else. 
Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they don't  like the 
fact that you need to interact with the groups if you wish to  click a 
link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this  isn't even a 
consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to  move along until I 
find the piece I want, then interact, then go where  I need to go, 
especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then  all I need to do 
is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander  turned on, andhave vo 
functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each  right arrow press gets me 
the next chunk of text.  Simple and  convinient.

hth.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:

I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked  that 
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are  that the 
only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right  arrow so 10 
presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if  there are no 
headings in between, in which case it will take me even  longer.  I can 
bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me  how many links, 
headings etc there are but pressing enter once or  twice on any of these 
just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to  another web page and want 
to go back I do not know how to do this,  so quick on a Windows machine 
with a 2 key press and I am back.   Please help!  Thanks.


Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke 
Can you tell me how to use the voice over search as it sounds excellent. 
Thank you.
- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Gregory" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


You can use the voiceover search function and try to find the text that 
the link contains…


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:25 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
 wrote:


Yes but what I want is to cut time and instead of arrowing down through 
all the links say, I want to ump to link 10 is there a way of doing that?

- Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, 
you can just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter 
options


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
 wrote:


Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate 
this way with the arrow keys?
- Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 


To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up 
arrows together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the 
up-and-down arrows to navigate through the selected elements. To 
go.back aPage, press command and the left bracket key together, to go 
forward, command and the right bracket together.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
 wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked 
that navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are 
that the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right 
arrow so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if 
there are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even 
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how 
many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice 
on any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to 
another web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so 
quick on a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please 
help!  Thanks.


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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke 
I am not making myself clear, I understand how to open a link, what I do not 
understand is that when I operate the rota and it is on links and tells me 
there are 102 links, how I can access these links e.g. by way of a list of 
links.
- Original Message - 
From: "isaac" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


First when you locate the link you want in to the rotor  first press enter 
then press vo space bar to open the link.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Eleanor Burke  
wrote:


Yes but what I want is to cut time and instead of arrowing down through 
all the links say, I want to ump to link 10 is there a way of doing that?

- Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, 
you can just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter 
options


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
 wrote:


Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate 
this way with the arrow keys?
- Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 


To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up 
arrows together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the 
up-and-down arrows to navigate through the selected elements. To 
go.back aPage, press command and the left bracket key together, to go 
forward, command and the right bracket together.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
 wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked 
that navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are 
that the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right 
arrow so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if 
there are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even 
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how 
many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice 
on any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to 
another web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so 
quick on a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please 
help!  Thanks.


Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Josh Gregory 
You can use the voiceover search function and try to find the text that the 
link contains…

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:25 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes but what I want is to cut time and instead of arrowing down through all 
> the links say, I want to ump to link 10 is there a way of doing that?
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
> 
> 
>> Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, you 
>> can just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter options
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate 
>>> this way with the arrow keys?
>>> ----- Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up arrows 
>>>> together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the up-and-down arrows 
>>>> to navigate through the selected elements. To go.back aPage, press command 
>>>> and the left bracket key together, to go forward, command and the right 
>>>> bracket together.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
>>>>> effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
>>>>> navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the 
>>>>> only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 
>>>>> presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are no 
>>>>> headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I can 
>>>>> bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, 
>>>>> headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these 
>>>>> just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and want 
>>>>> to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows machine 
>>>>> with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Travis Siegel 
Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you  
activate groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a  
single group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less  
keypressing needed tonavigate your documents.  I never use anything  
else.  Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they don't  
like the fact that you need to interact with the groups if you wish to  
click a link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this  
isn't even a consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to  
move along until I find the piece I want, then interact, then go where  
I need to go, especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then  
all I need to do is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander  
turned on, andhave vo functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each  
right arrow press gets me the next chunk of text.  Simple and  
convinient.

hth.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:

I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an  
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked  
that navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are  
that the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right  
arrow so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if  
there are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even  
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me  
how many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or  
twice on any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to  
another web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this,  
so quick on a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.   
Please help!  Thanks.


Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread isaac 
 First when you locate the link you want in to the rotor  first press enter 
then press vo space bar to open the link.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> Yes but what I want is to cut time and instead of arrowing down through all 
> the links say, I want to ump to link 10 is there a way of doing that?
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
> 
> 
>> Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, you 
>> can just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter options
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate 
>>> this way with the arrow keys?
>>> - Original Message ----- From: "Josh Gregory" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up arrows 
>>>> together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the up-and-down arrows 
>>>> to navigate through the selected elements. To go.back aPage, press command 
>>>> and the left bracket key together, to go forward, command and the right 
>>>> bracket together.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
>>>>> effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
>>>>> navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the 
>>>>> only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 
>>>>> presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are no 
>>>>> headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I can 
>>>>> bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, 
>>>>> headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these 
>>>>> just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and want 
>>>>> to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows machine 
>>>>> with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eleanor
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke 
Yes but what I want is to cut time and instead of arrowing down through all 
the links say, I want to ump to link 10 is there a way of doing that?
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From: "Josh Gregory" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, 
you can just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter 
options


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On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
 wrote:


Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate 
this way with the arrow keys?

- Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up 
arrows together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the 
up-and-down arrows to navigate through the selected elements. To go.back 
aPage, press command and the left bracket key together, to go forward, 
command and the right bracket together.


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On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
 wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that 
the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow 
so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are 
no headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I 
can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, 
headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these 
just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and 
want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows 
machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.


Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Josh Gregory 
Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, you can 
just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter options

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> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate this 
> way with the arrow keys?
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web
> 
> 
>> Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up  arrows 
>> together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the up-and-down arrows to 
>> navigate through the selected elements. To go.back aPage, press command and 
>> the left bracket key together, to go forward, command and the right bracket 
>> together.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
>>> effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
>>> navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the 
>>> only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 
>>> presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are no 
>>> headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I can 
>>> bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, headings 
>>> etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these just gives 
>>> me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and want to go back I 
>>> do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows machine with a 2 key 
>>> press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke 
Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate this 
way with the arrow keys?
- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Gregory" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up  arrows 
together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the up-and-down arrows 
to navigate through the selected elements. To go.back aPage, press command 
and the left bracket key together, to go forward, command and the right 
bracket together.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke" 
 wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the 
only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 
presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are no 
headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I can 
bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, 
headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these 
just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and want 
to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows machine 
with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.


Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Josh Gregory 
Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up  arrows 
together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the up-and-down arrows to 
navigate through the selected elements. To go.back aPage, press command and the 
left bracket key together, to go forward, command and the right bracket 
together.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Eleanor Burke"  
> wrote:
> 
> I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an effecient 
> manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that navagating by 
> single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the only way I am able 
> to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 presses of it will take 
> me to the 10th link, that is if there are no headings in between, in which 
> case it will take me even longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and 
> this tells me how many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once 
> or twice on any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to 
> another web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick 
> on a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.
> 
> Eleanor 
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Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke 
I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the 
only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 
presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are no 
headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I can bring 
up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, headings etc 
there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these just gives me a 
beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and want to go back I do not 
know how to do this, so quick on a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I 
am back.  Please help!  Thanks.


Eleanor 


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