Re: Has anybody else noticed a recent change in the interpretation of Headings in the web rotor?

2013-10-30 Thread Bryan Jones
Hi Zack and Others — After upgrading to the current Mavericks release, this 
issue seems cleared up in most situations. . However, I’m still experiencing it 
in search results in Amazon. Can you try the following and let me know what 
your results are?
1. Go to amazon.com.
2. Search for an item, in my case I tried Macbook Air.
3. Bring up the web rotor and arrow through the list of headings. In my case, 
after the first few items in the list the results simply show “by Apple” as the 
heading.
4. However, if I navigate the results using VO+COmmand+H, I hear the full text 
of each of those headings, for example heading level 3 2 items link Apple 
MacBook Air MD760LL/A 13.3-Inch Laptop (NEWEST VERSION) by Apple

Thanks again,
Bryan

On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:
 Nope, I haven’t seen this. Just did a Google search and could navigate 
 headings with the rotor just fine. I note that I’m used to using VO-cmd-h and 
 friends, so I may be missing something.

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Re: Has anybody else noticed a recent change in the interpretation of Headings in the web rotor?

2013-10-30 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Bryan,

I’m seeing the same thing here. VO is only seeing the second element in the 
heading when in the rotor. This is independent of whether I’m in DOM or Groups 
mode.

Cheers,

Anne


On 30 Oct 2013, at 15:13, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Zack and Others — After upgrading to the current Mavericks release, this 
 issue seems cleared up in most situations. . However, I’m still experiencing 
 it in search results in Amazon. Can you try the following and let me know 
 what your results are?
 1. Go to amazon.com.
 2. Search for an item, in my case I tried Macbook Air.
 3. Bring up the web rotor and arrow through the list of headings. In my case, 
 after the first few items in the list the results simply show “by Apple” as 
 the heading.
 4. However, if I navigate the results using VO+COmmand+H, I hear the full 
 text of each of those headings, for example heading level 3 2 items link 
 Apple MacBook Air MD760LL/A 13.3-Inch Laptop (NEWEST VERSION) by Apple
 
 Thanks again,
 Bryan
 
 On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:
 Nope, I haven’t seen this. Just did a Google search and could navigate 
 headings with the rotor just fine. I note that I’m used to using VO-cmd-h 
 and friends, so I may be missing something.
 
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Has anybody else noticed a recent change in the interpretation of Headings in the web rotor?

2013-10-28 Thread Bryan Jones
Hi Folks,

For those of you who use the web rotor on your mac to skim the headings list on 
web pages, have you noticed any recent changes in the lists of headings 
displayed in the web rotor? In the past I could easily and reliably use the web 
rotor to skim a full list of headings on a web page. Now, that list is either 
largely truncated or contains only a couple of words from each of the heading 
results. However, if I navigate the page headings by pressing VO+Command+h, I 
am correctly stepped from one heading to the next without apparent truncation 
or other issue. This change is especially problematic on web pages where I am 
trying to skim lists of search results, for example google.com, amazon.com, the 
online course catalog for my university, and just about any other web page 
where I'm attempting to review a list of search results that have been 
displayed as headings.

I'm seeing this behavior in both ML with Safari 6.1 and Chrome 30, as well as 
Mavericks with Safari 7.

Just wanted to see if anyone else is experiencing this issue before I go 
bothering the Apple Accessibility Team about it.

TIA for any feedback,
Bryan


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Re: Has anybody else noticed a recent change in the interpretation of Headings in the web rotor?

2013-10-28 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Brian,
Nope, I haven’t seen this. Just did a Google search and could navigate headings 
with the rotor just fine. I note that I’m used to using VO-cmd-h and friends, 
so I may be missing something.
Best,
Zack.
On Oct 28, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Folks,
 
 For those of you who use the web rotor on your mac to skim the headings list 
 on web pages, have you noticed any recent changes in the lists of headings 
 displayed in the web rotor? In the past I could easily and reliably use the 
 web rotor to skim a full list of headings on a web page. Now, that list is 
 either largely truncated or contains only a couple of words from each of the 
 heading results. However, if I navigate the page headings by pressing 
 VO+Command+h, I am correctly stepped from one heading to the next without 
 apparent truncation or other issue. This change is especially problematic on 
 web pages where I am trying to skim lists of search results, for example 
 google.com, amazon.com, the online course catalog for my university, and just 
 about any other web page where I'm attempting to review a list of search 
 results that have been displayed as headings.
 
 I'm seeing this behavior in both ML with Safari 6.1 and Chrome 30, as well as 
 Mavericks with Safari 7.
 
 Just wanted to see if anyone else is experiencing this issue before I go 
 bothering the Apple Accessibility Team about it.
 
 TIA for any feedback,
 Bryan
 
 
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