Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-26 Thread Parham Doustdar

Hi David et al,

Let me raise my issue and see if you have a better way of solving it, 
other than hiding the windows, which, as I've found so far, is not possible.


As you know, the Iranian government has censored lots of websites. To 
that end, I ssh to a friend's PC in the UK and create a tunnel (using 
the -D option) on a local port. I then use Proxifier to redirect all my 
local traffic to that port, and start using the internet in all its 
glory. :-)


Now, at this point, I have four windows open: Proxifier, Mail, Finder 
and Terminal. Since I'm used to having two or three windows in this list 
instead of four at minimum, you can see why I'm trying to reduce the number.


Thanks.
On 10/25/2013 10:10 PM, David Griffith wrote:

I think  we just have to accept that the Mac does things differently.
On Windows you can cycle through multiple applications and open windows
within those applications with alt tab.
This causes massive potential for confusing multiple alt tabbing through
multiple windows from multiple open applications.
In contrast on the Mac cycling through Windows is restricted to a single
application and does not extend to multiple windows across apps. The need
for the Windows solution of hiding windows is not therefore anywhere near as
great on the Mac side.
It is not surprising therefore that this option does not appear to exist on
the \Mac platform.
Of course if you want to navigate multiple windows across several open
applications you can do this with Application Chooser and sort out the
window you need from there under the application heading.

David Griffith

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Subject: Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

Hi!
OK I had a play and unfortunately the Apps still appear in Command+tab!
So that is not what you want!
Colin

On 25 Oct 2013, at 17:16, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


Maybe providing it is also not in the command tab list or as one pointed

out app switcher which i never think of that on a mac for the sake of
ambiguity.

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On 25/10/2013 16:01, Red.Falcon wrote:

Hi!
OK I'm not sure if this does the trick but their is the minimise command

[Command+M] that sends the app your in to the doc!

Could that be the one!
HTH Colin

On 25 Oct 2013, at 13:10, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net

wrote:

Hi Chris and all
On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:22, chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok then. So all, what exactly does this hide command do? Any responses

greatly appreciated.

The Hide command only hides the window of the current application. The

Hide Others command hides all of the other windows, leaving only the
current application's window visible. I guess it is used to minimise clutter
on the screen. As you have found, this will not hide the application from
the app switcher.

Best
James

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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-26 Thread David Griffith
You probably know about this but in situation I would use Application Chooser 
than command tab.
This, as it name suggests, will list the applications running on your mac.
However if I press right arrow on any application whilst in Application Chooser 
this will reveal  up a list of all the windows in that application.. i can then 
cursor down until I hear the window I need to switch to.
Similarly to hide  all the windows open in an Application you press the left 
key.
Thus in Application Chooser you can simplify the windows open across 
application and have windows under a particular application hidden  from view.
To then cycle through windows within an application you use either application 
chooser or more efficiently window chooser if you are working within a single  
application.  . You can get a similar  desired affect by pressing command 
accent which performs  a similar function to alt tab in Windows.   , .

This is different  from Windows but in this case I prefer the Mac way of doing 
things as Application chooser in the Mac offers far more than the simple 
Windows alt tab function.
 
David Griffith
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On 26 Oct 2013, at 07:20, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi David et al,
 
 Let me raise my issue and see if you have a better way of solving it, other 
 than hiding the windows, which, as I've found so far, is not possible.
 
 As you know, the Iranian government has censored lots of websites. To that 
 end, I ssh to a friend's PC in the UK and create a tunnel (using the -D 
 option) on a local port. I then use Proxifier to redirect all my local 
 traffic to that port, and start using the internet in all its glory. :-)
 
 Now, at this point, I have four windows open: Proxifier, Mail, Finder and 
 Terminal. Since I'm used to having two or three windows in this list instead 
 of four at minimum, you can see why I'm trying to reduce the number.
 
 Thanks.
 On 10/25/2013 10:10 PM, David Griffith wrote:
 I think  we just have to accept that the Mac does things differently.
 On Windows you can cycle through multiple applications and open windows
 within those applications with alt tab.
 This causes massive potential for confusing multiple alt tabbing through
 multiple windows from multiple open applications.
 In contrast on the Mac cycling through Windows is restricted to a single
 application and does not extend to multiple windows across apps. The need
 for the Windows solution of hiding windows is not therefore anywhere near as
 great on the Mac side.
 It is not surprising therefore that this option does not appear to exist on
 the \Mac platform.
 Of course if you want to navigate multiple windows across several open
 applications you can do this with Application Chooser and sort out the
 window you need from there under the application heading.
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Red.Falcon
 Sent: 25 October 2013 19:29
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab
 
 Hi!
 OK I had a play and unfortunately the Apps still appear in Command+tab!
 So that is not what you want!
 Colin
 
 On 25 Oct 2013, at 17:16, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Maybe providing it is also not in the command tab list or as one pointed
 out app switcher which i never think of that on a mac for the sake of
 ambiguity.
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 25/10/2013 16:01, Red.Falcon wrote:
 Hi!
 OK I'm not sure if this does the trick but their is the minimise command
 [Command+M] that sends the app your in to the doc!
 Could that be the one!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 25 Oct 2013, at 13:10, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net
 wrote:
 Hi Chris and all
 On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:22, chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok then. So all, what exactly does this hide command do? Any responses
 greatly appreciated.
 The Hide command only hides the window of the current application. The
 Hide Others command hides all of the other windows, leaving only the
 current application's window visible. I guess it is used to minimise clutter
 on the screen. As you have found, this will not hide the application from
 the app switcher.
 Best
 James
 
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Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-25 Thread Parham Doustdar
Hi.

On Windows, I use the “minimize to tray” functionality for apps such as 
messengers, so that they won’t be in my way when alt-tabbing.

Is there such a thing in Mac? If so, what is it called?

Thanks.
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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-25 Thread Chris H
There is a hide command in the app's menu. Go to the menu bar, open the 
app's menu and there will be an option to hide the app. Substitute the 
word app with the actual name.


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On 25/10/2013 08:39, Parham Doustdar wrote:

Hi.

On Windows, I use the “minimize to tray” functionality for apps such as 
messengers, so that they won’t be in my way when alt-tabbing.

Is there such a thing in Mac? If so, what is it called?

Thanks.
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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-25 Thread Parham Doustdar
Hi Chris,

I had seen that option. However, when I hide the app and press command+tab, the 
first item is the application itself. So, it’s not being hidden.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is a hide command in the app's menu. Go to the menu bar, open the app's 
 menu and there will be an option to hide the app. Substitute the word app 
 with the actual name.
 
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 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 25/10/2013 08:39, Parham Doustdar wrote:
 Hi.
 
 On Windows, I use the “minimize to tray” functionality for apps such as 
 messengers, so that they won’t be in my way when alt-tabbing.
 
 Is there such a thing in Mac? If so, what is it called?
 
 Thanks.
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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-25 Thread chris
Ok then. So all, what exactly does this hide command do? Any responses greatly 
appreciated. Thanks!
On 25 Oct 2013, at 11:52, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris,
 
 I had seen that option. However, when I hide the app and press command+tab, 
 the first item is the application itself. So, it’s not being hidden.
 On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There is a hide command in the app's menu. Go to the menu bar, open the 
 app's menu and there will be an option to hide the app. Substitute the word 
 app with the actual name.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 25/10/2013 08:39, Parham Doustdar wrote:
 Hi.
 
 On Windows, I use the “minimize to tray” functionality for apps such as 
 messengers, so that they won’t be in my way when alt-tabbing.
 
 Is there such a thing in Mac? If so, what is it called?
 
 Thanks.
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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-25 Thread JAMES AUSTIN
Hi Chris and all
On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:22, chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok then. So all, what exactly does this hide command do? Any responses 
 greatly appreciated. 
The Hide command only hides the window of the current application. The Hide 
Others command hides all of the other windows, leaving only the current 
application's window visible. I guess it is used to minimise clutter on the 
screen. As you have found, this will not hide the application from the app 
switcher.

Best
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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-25 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi!
OK I'm not sure if this does the trick but their is the minimise command 
[Command+M] that sends the app your in to the doc!
Could that be the one!
HTH Colin

On 25 Oct 2013, at 13:10, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Chris and all
 On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:22, chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok then. So all, what exactly does this hide command do? Any responses 
 greatly appreciated. 
 The Hide command only hides the window of the current application. The 
 Hide Others command hides all of the other windows, leaving only the 
 current application's window visible. I guess it is used to minimise clutter 
 on the screen. As you have found, this will not hide the application from the 
 app switcher.
 
 Best
 James 
 
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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-25 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
No.  All that does is to hide all the windows that are currently opened 
within the app focussed in the foreground.  The difference in that from hide 
all/show all is that the hide all only puts the app in the dock.  If you 
minimize, then not only will you have the app in the dock, but at the far 
righthand corner of your dock, you'll also find icons for each opened window 
within that app which has been minimized.


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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-25 Thread Chris H
Maybe providing it is also not in the command tab list or as one pointed 
out app switcher which i never think of that on a mac for the sake of 
ambiguity.


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On 25/10/2013 16:01, Red.Falcon wrote:

Hi!
OK I'm not sure if this does the trick but their is the minimise command 
[Command+M] that sends the app your in to the doc!
Could that be the one!
HTH Colin

On 25 Oct 2013, at 13:10, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote:


Hi Chris and all
On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:22, chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok then. So all, what exactly does this hide command do? Any responses greatly 
appreciated.

The Hide command only hides the window of the current application. The Hide 
Others command hides all of the other windows, leaving only the current application's window 
visible. I guess it is used to minimise clutter on the screen. As you have found, this will not 
hide the application from the app switcher.

Best
James

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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-25 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi!
OK I had a play and unfortunately the Apps still appear in Command+tab!
So that is not what you want!
Colin

On 25 Oct 2013, at 17:16, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe providing it is also not in the command tab list or as one pointed out 
 app switcher which i never think of that on a mac for the sake of ambiguity.
 
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 On 25/10/2013 16:01, Red.Falcon wrote:
 Hi!
 OK I'm not sure if this does the trick but their is the minimise command 
 [Command+M] that sends the app your in to the doc!
 Could that be the one!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 25 Oct 2013, at 13:10, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Chris and all
 On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:22, chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok then. So all, what exactly does this hide command do? Any responses 
 greatly appreciated.
 The Hide command only hides the window of the current application. The 
 Hide Others command hides all of the other windows, leaving only the 
 current application's window visible. I guess it is used to minimise 
 clutter on the screen. As you have found, this will not hide the 
 application from the app switcher.
 
 Best
 James
 
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RE: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

2013-10-25 Thread David Griffith
I think  we just have to accept that the Mac does things differently.
On Windows you can cycle through multiple applications and open windows
within those applications with alt tab.
This causes massive potential for confusing multiple alt tabbing through
multiple windows from multiple open applications.
In contrast on the Mac cycling through Windows is restricted to a single
application and does not extend to multiple windows across apps. The need
for the Windows solution of hiding windows is not therefore anywhere near as
great on the Mac side.
It is not surprising therefore that this option does not appear to exist on
the \Mac platform.
Of course if you want to navigate multiple windows across several open
applications you can do this with Application Chooser and sort out the
window you need from there under the application heading.

David Griffith

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Subject: Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

Hi!
OK I had a play and unfortunately the Apps still appear in Command+tab!
So that is not what you want!
Colin

On 25 Oct 2013, at 17:16, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe providing it is also not in the command tab list or as one pointed
out app switcher which i never think of that on a mac for the sake of
ambiguity.
 
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 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 25/10/2013 16:01, Red.Falcon wrote:
 Hi!
 OK I'm not sure if this does the trick but their is the minimise command
[Command+M] that sends the app your in to the doc!
 Could that be the one!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 25 Oct 2013, at 13:10, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net
wrote:
 
 Hi Chris and all
 On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:22, chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok then. So all, what exactly does this hide command do? Any responses
greatly appreciated.
 The Hide command only hides the window of the current application. The
Hide Others command hides all of the other windows, leaving only the
current application's window visible. I guess it is used to minimise clutter
on the screen. As you have found, this will not hide the application from
the app switcher.
 
 Best
 James
 
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