IOS7.1: convert v. convela

[Diane Bomar]

Please type in the word "convert "  in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and have 
VO read it.

I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and iPhone 
4. 
In all cases, VO says "convela."  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I checked 
this out, and it was saying "convert" correctly. When I  have checked this out, 
I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that contains 
the word "convert" it is pronounced "convela".

I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't know 
what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried it, 
and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.

I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I cannot 
imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.

Thanks,
Diane

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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

[Sarah k Alawami]

did you add a key board auto correct some ware? Go to settings, general, the 
keyboard, then to shortcuts.  Thats the only thing I could suggest for now. 

Take care.
On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Diane Bomar  wrote:

> Please type in the word "convert "  in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
> have 
> VO read it.
> 
> I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and iPhone 
> 4. 
> In all cases, VO says "convela."  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
> believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
> checked 
> this out, and it was saying "convert" correctly. When I  have checked this 
> out, 
> I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
> contains 
> the word "convert" it is pronounced "convela".
> 
> I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
> know 
> what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
> it, 
> and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
> 
> I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
> cannot 
> imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
> 
> Thanks,
> Diane
> 
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

[Randy Stegall]

I get convelot.
Randy Stegall
randy_steg...@att.net
I call Jesus “Lord”. He lives in me and I live in Him. He is my savior

On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar  wrote:

> Please type in the word "convert "  in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
> have 
> VO read it.
> 
> I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and iPhone 
> 4. 
> In all cases, VO says "convela."  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
> believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
> checked 
> this out, and it was saying "convert" correctly. When I  have checked this 
> out, 
> I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
> contains 
> the word "convert" it is pronounced "convela".
> 
> I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
> know 
> what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
> it, 
> and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
> 
> I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
> cannot 
> imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
> 
> Thanks,
> Diane
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

[Sarah k Alawami]

What voices are you guys using? I cannot test as I'm not updated.  Also are 
they hq or compact?

Take  care. 
On Mar 30, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Randy Stegall  wrote:

> I get convelot.
> Randy Stegall
> randy_steg...@att.net
> I call Jesus “Lord”. He lives in me and I live in Him. He is my savior
> 
> On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar  wrote:
> 
>> Please type in the word "convert "  in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
>> have 
>> VO read it.
>> 
>> I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and 
>> iPhone 4. 
>> In all cases, VO says "convela."  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
>> believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
>> checked 
>> this out, and it was saying "convert" correctly. When I  have checked this 
>> out, 
>> I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
>> contains 
>> the word "convert" it is pronounced "convela".
>> 
>> I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
>> know 
>> what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
>> it, 
>> and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
>> 
>> I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
>> cannot 
>> imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Diane
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

[Bryan Jones]

Hello Diane,

Thank you for posting this. I’ve noticed it when using the US English HQ voice 
on my iPhone 5S and iPad Mini since upgrading both to IOS 7.1. I slowed the 
speech rate down to 5 percent and still hear it pronounced as "conv a lot.”

Note that pronunciation of the word seems fine when using the Australian 
English & British English HQ voices, at least to my non-native ears.

Seems like an issue worth reporting to accessibil...@apple.com.

Cheers,
Bryan

On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar  wrote:
Please type in the word "convert "  in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and have 
> VO read it.

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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

[Sarah k Alawami]

I think the original poster  called apple accessibility and the guy could get 
the voice to say the word convert correctly. Let me know if I misunderstood the 
original post.
On Mar 30, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Bryan Jones  wrote:

> Hello Diane,
> 
> Thank you for posting this. I’ve noticed it when using the US English HQ 
> voice on my iPhone 5S and iPad Mini since upgrading both to IOS 7.1. I slowed 
> the speech rate down to 5 percent and still hear it pronounced as "conv a 
> lot.”
> 
> Note that pronunciation of the word seems fine when using the Australian 
> English & British English HQ voices, at least to my non-native ears.
> 
> Seems like an issue worth reporting to accessibil...@apple.com.
> 
> Cheers,
> Bryan
> 
> On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar  wrote:
> Please type in the word "convert "  in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
> have 
>> VO read it.
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

[Juanita Martin]

 VO mispronounces it even in the subject line.


sent from my phone
 


> On Mar 30, 2014, at 7:19 PM, "Diane Bomar"  wrote:
> 
> Please type in the word "convert "  in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
> have 
> VO read it.
> 
> I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and iPhone 
> 4. 
> In all cases, VO says "convela."  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
> believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
> checked 
> this out, and it was saying "convert" correctly. When I  have checked this 
> out, 
> I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
> contains 
> the word "convert" it is pronounced "convela".
> 
> I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
> know 
> what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
> it, 
> and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
> 
> I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
> cannot 
> imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
> 
> Thanks,
> Diane
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

[Bryan Jones]

Hello Sarah,

Yes, I interpreted the OP the same as you did, which is why I suggest emailing 
Apple Accessibility rather than leaving it unresolved and unreplicated with 
their phone support staff.

Cheers,
Bryan

On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I think the original poster  called apple accessibility and the guy could get 
> the voice to say the word convert correctly. Let me know if I misunderstood 
> the original post.
> On Mar 30, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Bryan Jones  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Diane,
>> 
>> Thank you for posting this. I’ve noticed it when using the US English HQ 
>> voice on my iPhone 5S and iPad Mini since upgrading both to IOS 7.1. I 
>> slowed the speech rate down to 5 percent and still hear it pronounced as 
>> "conv a lot.”
>> 
>> Note that pronunciation of the word seems fine when using the Australian 
>> English & British English HQ voices, at least to my non-native ears.
>> 
>> Seems like an issue worth reporting to accessibil...@apple.com.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Bryan
>> 
>> On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar  wrote:
>> Please type in the word "convert "  in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
>> have 
>>> VO read it.
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

[Glenn]

Hi Diane,
Where are you typing this?
If it is in the app store, maybe it is showing an app of that name that is 
only available in IOS 7X.  I'll try it on mine later.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Diane Bomar" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:19 PM
Subject: IOS7.1: convert v. convela


Please type in the word "convert "  in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
have
VO read it.

I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and 
iPhone 4.
In all cases, VO says "convela."  I realize this is very weird, and cannot
believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
checked
this out, and it was saying "convert" correctly. When I  have checked this 
out,
I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
contains
the word "convert" it is pronounced "convela".

I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
know
what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
it,
and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.

I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
cannot
imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 
7.1.

Thanks,
Diane

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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

[Deb Lewis]

Yes this is totally the case. I typed in the notes app, in a search screen, in 
email and got the same weird result every time. I don’t see how an agent could 
have gotten any different. I used mixed case, all lower case, quotes as you did 
int he message, etc. No difference.
It’s not a show stopper but it is weird.


On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Diane Bomar  wrote:

> Please type in the word "convert "  in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
> have 
> VO read it.
> 
> I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and iPhone 
> 4. 
> In all cases, VO says "convela."  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
> believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
> checked 
> this out, and it was saying "convert" correctly. When I  have checked this 
> out, 
> I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
> contains 
> the word "convert" it is pronounced "convela".
> 
> I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
> know 
> what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
> it, 
> and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
> 
> I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
> cannot 
> imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
> 
> Thanks,
> Diane
> 
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

[Sarah k Alawami]

and the tech who heard this was not able to reproduce this on his own device? I 
wonder if he tested this with other voices as well? Just thinking out loud 
here. 

Take care.

On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

> Yes this is totally the case. I typed in the notes app, in a search screen, 
> in email and got the same weird result every time. I don’t see how an agent 
> could have gotten any different. I used mixed case, all lower case, quotes as 
> you did int he message, etc. No difference.
> It’s not a show stopper but it is weird.
> 
> 
> On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Diane Bomar  wrote:
> 
>> Please type in the word "convert "  in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
>> have 
>> VO read it.
>> 
>> I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and 
>> iPhone 4. 
>> In all cases, VO says "convela."  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
>> believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
>> checked 
>> this out, and it was saying "convert" correctly. When I  have checked this 
>> out, 
>> I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
>> contains 
>> the word "convert" it is pronounced "convela".
>> 
>> I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
>> know 
>> what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
>> it, 
>> and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
>> 
>> I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
>> cannot 
>> imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Diane
>> 
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