Re: InfoVox Voices
Hello Missy OK, there are a couple of ways you can have this done. The first is to use a string of text which would sound the way you want it. That, however, may be more problematic. The second is to use fonems which require a bit more figuring out. You can, however, find a full list of fonems in the help documentation. If you think this is worth while, I am sure that the AssistivrWare people would help you. They are very friendly and helpful people. Just contact supp...@assistiveware.com and let them know what it is you're having problems with. If you still cannot get this sorted or if you cannot contact them for some reason, perhaps we could help you. Lynne On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, "Missy Hoppe" wrote: Hi! I'm aware of the tool; have just never had any luck getting it to work. For example, I hate that it says ape or a p p for an application, depending on the voice. No matter what I do, I can't get it to simply say app the way alex does. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:24 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] Helo Missy Did you know that you can modify the pronunciations with the Acapela Group InfoVox voices? Look in your /applications folder and you'll find the tool to do this. Lynne On 30 Sep 2012, at 16:54, "Missy Hoppe" wrote: I have all of the English speaking acapella voices installed on my mac, and like them a lot, but some of their pronunciation quirks are just too frustrating for daily use with voiceover, and I have never had luck getting their pronunciation editor to work properly, so I just stick with Alex. I do use acapella Tracy as the system voice, though. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:17 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] personally speaking, I prefer the Acapella Group InfoVox voices to anything Apple offers. I personally use those voices all of the time and although they are a little costly, I consider them well worth the money. On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:39, Missy Hoppe wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, "Debbie April Yuille" wrote: > Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch > you can still understand it quite well. > > I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not > in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be > corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. > > Debbie > > > -Original Message- > From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas > Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate > Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] > > just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable > really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky > when hiding elements for us would make
Re: InfoVox Voices
Oopse! Forgot to change accounts, sorry. On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:39, Gordon Smith wrote: Hello Missy OK, there are a couple of ways you can have this done. The first is to use a string of text which would sound the way you want it. That, however, may be more problematic. The second is to use fonems which require a bit more figuring out. You can, however, find a full list of fonems in the help documentation. If you think this is worth while, I am sure that the AssistivrWare people would help you. They are very friendly and helpful people. Just contact supp...@assistiveware.com and let them know what it is you're having problems with. If you still cannot get this sorted or if you cannot contact them for some reason, perhaps we could help you. Lynne On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, "Missy Hoppe" wrote: Hi! I'm aware of the tool; have just never had any luck getting it to work. For example, I hate that it says ape or a p p for an application, depending on the voice. No matter what I do, I can't get it to simply say app the way alex does. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:24 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] Helo Missy Did you know that you can modify the pronunciations with the Acapela Group InfoVox voices? Look in your /applications folder and you'll find the tool to do this. Lynne On 30 Sep 2012, at 16:54, "Missy Hoppe" wrote: I have all of the English speaking acapella voices installed on my mac, and like them a lot, but some of their pronunciation quirks are just too frustrating for daily use with voiceover, and I have never had luck getting their pronunciation editor to work properly, so I just stick with Alex. I do use acapella Tracy as the system voice, though. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:17 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] personally speaking, I prefer the Acapella Group InfoVox voices to anything Apple offers. I personally use those voices all of the time and although they are a little costly, I consider them well worth the money. On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:39, Missy Hoppe wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, "Debbie April Yuille" wrote: > Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch > you can still understand it quite well. > > I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not > in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be > corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. > > Debbie > > > -Original Message- > From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas > Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate > Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] > > just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable > really. not saying ungrate
